Early South Slavic History 

bruh, you have no idea :D

Keep in mind that this is just early south Slav history, this doesn't mention anything about ancient Greece, the Ottoman empire and ofc the Balkan wars. Also the Byzantine empire is briefly mentioned ofc because the point of this video is the Slavs not the Greeks.

*of Europe

@@georgegkoumas5026 those could be spin-offs lol

can you give me sources about the nation building in a style of thracian nobility?

Said nobody ever The actual saying is that history DOES repeat itself.

"History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes."

Where did you find that information

The difference between today and then was the fluxing within ethnic tribes of Europeans.

Yep, especially when history is helped along the way by outside forces.

Lol, ofcourse they did eating semechki and drink slivovitza

@@timax4114 the fuck are semechki, south slavs aren't russians you know?

Haha, I'm not a slav, but I'm living in Macedonia and wearing an Adidas tracksuit right now!

@@dacho707 semenke?

@@timax4114 semki

Hahahah

Maybe it is the best, but the problem is that it never happened.

Slovenes are natives prior to Roman expansion. Sarmatians that came into Balkans in 7 century assimilated Slovene language to some extent and SerboCroatian was born. That's how they became Slavic.But not all of us.

​@@kaligulajovanovicYour education never happened 😂

Cyrillic script is created in Bulgaria and used first by the Bulgarians before ALL other slavs

Thank you zZap! Comments like this always makes me happy.

@@aleksk4151 serbians says that cyrilic script is created by them :D

@@kategoried7501 very common for the serbs Claiming things for them selfs. No Matter who you ask in the Balkans, they will say the Serbs are claiming what their eyes see

@@aleksk4151 by whom?

pozdrav brate moj

Pozdrav braćo Slovenska svih denominacija, vera i religija. SLOVENI UJEDINIMO SE.

Nice sense of humor

Pozdrav iz Slavonije brate

Ey dipshit you left out Bosnia and Hercegovina.

well Balkan is cross road for North - South and West - East , we are not strong enough to be able to have our own interest so we follow interest of other Imperial countries that is why there were and still is a lot of wars in the Balkan.

We are never bored... :D

Najbolja stvar kod nas je to što uvjek znaš ko je pobijedio u argumentu, onaj koji nema sjekiru u lubanji:D

Less blood, more geography. Every single empire just has to expand into the Balkans.

🖤🇦🇱AUTOCHTONOUS SHQIPTARIA🇦🇱🖤

Serbian territory it's a OLD COUNTRY BULGARIA.

there is so many versions..

@@kategoried7501 Patria is a greek word

@kim a hellens was just a small tribe

@@nedimistanojen7070 hahahaa Who no that ? History change face Day by Day

Could be, but I think more research has to be done in to that as the current facts do present a valid argument but not necessarily a closed case.

@@MLaserHistory That's the case with all theories about Proto-Bulgarian history of origin, sadly. We just don't have the evidence to make some kind of a solid conclusion.

from river volga i think

Those are the bulgarS, just 1 of the 3 main ethnic groups that form what are today the bulgarIANS. they were the political and military elite and were quickly assimilated in the local population, today we have even less than 1% of their dNA (however this is disputed because even the bulgar origin is uncertain, so no need to go deeper)

Yeah but it also causes confusion. One needs to distinguish the proto-Bulgars from the modern day Slavic Bulgarians. In short, the two nations mixed, and got on, and the Empire eventually adopted a Slavic personality due to the fact that the Turkic Bulgars assimilated. However, for one to be a Bulgarian in 2021 does not necessarily spell proto-Bulgar ancestry, while the Bulgars in turn settled across on the lands on both sides of the Adriatic (ex-Yugoslavia and Italy).

Get this, there was a time where 2 Bulgarias existed. This one and Voljka (Volga) Bulgaria. Voljka Bulgaria got destroyed and wiped out by the expanding Horde of Genghis Khan, later transforming into the Golden Horde that also almost wiped out the entirety of the Rus Principalities during the early 1200s.

Bulgars are NOT TURKISH!!! Bulgrs are from Alano-Persian group! And they are about 90% similar to today's Bulgarians!

Your maps are not exact

Bruh same for macedonia

@@Frosty-ky7ci maybe because your “country” started existing 5 years ago and has been historically always a part of bulgaria yet now you are descendants of alexander from thousnads of years ago

@@00opiumm 5? Try 100 and also it was occupied by you guys but never urs

@@Frosty-ky7ci yes we are facist occupators

@@Frosty-ky7ci we are also tatars and mongols snd gypsies abd turks

As I understand, the Slavs had a very welcoming society and easily integrated outsiders. This can explain partially the assimilation of the Romanized Thracians still living there. Plus, after the imposition of Old Slavonic as liturgical language of the local Christian church, this helped Slavic language become the prestige language and slowly replace other languages (slowly, because mentions of the Vlachs, a Romance speaking population, appear for centuries after. In fact, only after the apparition of the independent nation states in late 19th century with their nationalistic policies were they thoroughly assimilated).

Yeah I wonder what happened there

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_di_Bulgheria

There's a statue of Alzek in the small city named after the Bulgarians who settled there

Yeah, that was crazy. Who would've thought that had happened if we didn't have the records... makes me think of how many misconceptions we have about history because other such events took place without written records and they are so bizarre we don't even consider the possibility of them occuring.

Indoeuropean roots. Lot of words has same root, for example: Steel, Stahl, Stal / Iron, Icen, Acero, Acier / Sun, Sonne, Sol, Słońce

Actually no, indoeuropean words have a root in common and the use varies in diferent modern languages. An excellent example is the word "wòrd" wich means water, this word become unda in latin and is onda in spanish, onda means wave. You can see that words declinate from the common root

All this Slavs are one big nation,separate on tribes with diferent names from diferent regions but it was one big nation with same language and dna.There is no migration they just changing names of tribes tru history.

At 13:08 it's inaccurate though. There was no division between Rome and Constantinople in terms of the religious doctrine.

Your channel is one of the best on YT!

You hate to see it

Sadly true

Byzantium :can i get a break ? World around them :no

true story. Every great europian empire got fucked when that happend.

We didn’t crash the party we started it

@@ivanpetkovic2130 preach brother

@@ivanpetkovic2130 everything was great until two brothers appeared

Eeeey there were just late a couple minutes!

A great Comment!

I am really disappointed that Delmat language is dead. It looks like a pretty language

Many were also ETHNICALLY CLEANSED to Italy by the USTASHA.

Substantial remnants of Dalmatian Romance language survive in the dialects of the Dalmatian Islands today, many of which are uninteligable to most mainland Croatians. Some ethnic Italians from Istria & central Dalmatia slavicised their names during the course of the 20th century, my mothers family included.

You are absolutely right about the non-slavic speaking groups , there must have been lots of them and the slavic ( then ottoman ) pressure did accelerate their disappearance south of the Danube but look at what happened on the north side ...

@@leckyboy1475 But they are?

@@leckyboy1475 ive seen you comment twice on this video and both times has been about this

Check Bavaria the only name in Europe that has as a root the word Avar. I know the helens say that Albanians are of avarian origin ,and is true that in albania the last name avari exist but that should not confuse us, the name alba, or arvani or arber cannot arrive from the root avar.

One of the brothers settled in today's Italy, hence you have last names such as Bulgaro, Bulgari, Bulgarini, Bulgarelli, etc. and a town in central Italy called Bulgare.

Yeah and macedonians still claim to be descendants of alexander

@@00opiumm thanks for your comment xD

The truth about Macedonia... There is tons of evidence that almost all the national heroes we have considered to be Macedonians in Republic of Northern Macedonia so far have considered themselves as Bulgarians in one way or another! Even the father of the so called Macedonian nation, philosopher Krustyo Petkov Misirkov is a pure Bulgarian, born in 1926 in Sofia, Kingdom of Bulgaria! He is also often regarded as "the founder of contemporary Macedonian literary language". Gorche Petrov proudly states this in his book "Study Materials about Macedonia". There he writes that the Macedonian population is made up of Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks, Arnauts, Roma and Vlachs, but the Serbs are not mentioned anywhere! All this is described in detail in a literary Bulgarian language in a book with over 700 pages in 1896. The motto of all Bulgarians from the Macedonian region has always been only one ... 🦁FREEDOM OR DEATH🦁

@@bobantheighty6141 Actually, in Bulgaria we even joke by calling it "Macedonia Bulgarian (Македония Българска)" Some people that are more serious about history are kinda...pissed at you, but most of us just joke. No offense intended, of course.

@@leckyboy1475 македония е българска.

@@leckyboy1475 Maybe that's because my grand grandfather is from Stip, and my other grand grand father is from Drama region in Greece, which is also Macedonia. And that applies to at least 1/3 of Bulgarian people, because we had close to 1 million refugees after the Balkan Wars and First World War from Aegean and Vardar Macedonia. At that time Bulgaria was less than 4 million. And that is one thing that was hidden for you for many years. Among many other things.

Ah, Bulgarians, the people who assimilated their own conquerors, also took their Turkic name but didn't give a single fuck like a boss lol

He is Slovakian

@@zvaramartin english speaking

The author, many errors in the English text.

@Solve Everything at the time christianity was key The Russians also Turned Christian from Bisantium And also when we were Christian we were at the peak of our powers

Red Fox Emperor if you are studying it can you please tell me why or for how long cyril and his brother were exiled in moravia?

Do you agree that the bulgar nomads were of turkic descent? There are many theories and very little evidence

@@Dian_Borisov_SW I cannot say for sure since I haven't looked that much into it. But most dynastic clues will lead to Kubrat who was partially turkik in decent. Unfortunately the Bulgars were nomadic trybes that moved across several lands, but they do have traits like pony tails and horse riding much like the later Mongol tribes.

@@affentaktik2810 That can very depending on who you ask. We wouldn't have many accounts from back then because writing was still not practiced by many

Anyway all slavs share a lot of common stuff

@Washing Machine Mine from Czechia.

Well judging by what Ive learned,what this video shows and Bosnia's area of birth witch is around the river of Bosna im guessing that other settled south slavic tribes(not serb or croat) and mixed remnants of germanic, avaric, latin, greek and lliryan population gave birth to this duchy.

I always thought Bosnia is a meme country declared through some American grapevine for some strategic reason after they broke up the old country. Can easily see it as basis for further conflict.

@@Kafchuga That's very unlikely. Before the Ottoman invasion and forced Islamization, Bosnians were always considered as Serbs. The best example would be that the first king of Bosnia, King Tvrtko I Kotromanić had a title "King of Serbs" although his territorial rule was over entire Bosnia, Hum and parts of Dalmatia. If there were other people under his rule, he would have included them in his title without a doubt. Today's Bosnia consists of Croats, Boshniaks and Serbs, but Boshniaks are just Islamized Serbs, there are numerous historical references to confirm this fact. Also, this video makes a lot of modern false assumptions. For example, "Serbo-Croatian" language is a very modern and very absurd idea. Croatian language, dialect of the South Slavic, is Čajkavica, while Serbian is Štokavica. Serbo-Croatian is only Štokavica, meaning only Serbian, which is a digraphic language, and this was used to create a false separation to Serbian and Croatian as part of the nationalistic and political struggles. However, Croatian language is still used in parts of Croatia, although their official language is Serbian, they just call it Croatian, same as in N. Macedonia, Montenegro and Bosnia, although after the wars of the 1990 they had all renamed the language by the names of these new-founded countries. With these modern assumptions, many errors arise. The first well recorded history of the Serbs is that of the Nemanjić dynasty (they are the center of modern Serbian national identity). Yet they originate from Zeta region/tribe and only after they had united multiple regions and tribes, combined they call themselves Serbs. Also, there is no separate historical record of a single Serbian tribe, this name us always used for larger groups of South Slavic tribes, unlike ex. Croats or Moravians, implying that Serbs are not a single tribe but a group of South Slavic tribes. This further is supported by historians like Mavro Orbini, who for example puts Croatian insignia grouped as part of insignias under the Nemanjić Serbian insignia.

@@storymatters7309 I have noticed that way too many people now days miss the difference between region and ethnicity. In middle ages (and before) there was no concept of national state, and people of the same ethnicity were separated in multiple countries/regions that were even often in war with one another. Bosnia was not named by Bosnian people, but by river Bona. Not even today there is a specific Bosnian nation/ethnicity, but Bosnia is a country of three constitutional people: Serbs, Croats and Bošnjaks (named themselves like that in 1993, before just called Muslims). So it is very difficult to say someone was Bosnian. Of course he was Bosnian, but then the founder of Serbian Nemanjić dynasty (from which was that Serbian prices you mentioned) was Zettan (or whatever the English term for people from Zeta is), and later Serbian rulers from the same dynasty were Rasians (people from Raška) and later Macedonians, since these were the lands where they were born and lived. On this same way you could argue that Normans are not French or Bavarians are not German, or that Alexander of Macedonia was not Greek (Helen), or that I am not Serb because I would always proudly call myself Dalmatian. But there was no mention of Tvrtko being the King of Bosnians. His title was "King of Serbs, Bosnia, Costal lands and Hum". If he had ruled over some Bosnian group of people he would make sure to include it in his title. Further more, it is not true that there was a missing hair, Mrnjavčević dynasty was set to replace Nemanjić dynasty and last Serbian tzar Uroš had named Marko Mrnjavčević a young king and gave him a right of succession. Also, there was prince Lazar, who was actually crowned tzar by the patriarch, but was challenged by Tvrtko. Also, Tvrtko did not assert himself as king because "his grandparents from his mother side were Serbs", but because they were from the Nemanjić royal dynasty, which gave him a right of succession. Bosnian bans were very powerful since Kulin Ban, which gave them a lot of de facto independence and sovereignty but they were sill bans, and that's one of the lowest titles that is a title of local lords that are under the rule of some other prince/king/tzar.

@@storymatters7309 yes, Bosnian LAND. Just as I had said, as his title says. King of Serbs (people), Bosnia (land), etc.. You have confirmed exacly what I have said. You must take everything in the context, not cherry pick fragments to try to prove a point. Ex, "POVELJA DUBROVČANIMA 1378" To be in Christ Jesus faithful and by God apointed Stephan (Serbian Nemanjić dynasty name), King of Serbs (people) and Bosnia and... (his lands). And then I had started my reighn with God and rebuild the trone of Serbia (here he directly puts Bosnia as a land in Serbia) with wish to erect what was fallen and streighten what was damaged.

Some time later...

@Јован Јованчевић lol

They were the two young bucks who grew up together and thought they'd be best friends forever, think of all the conquering and the wars and the women we will get together!... and then they grow old and turn into the fiercest and worst of enemies. So tragic.

We have still a love hate relation. In open there is anymosity, but in the background we sit together in kafana and enjoy eacb other differences and similarities

Most of Croats and Serbs hang out besides politics and trying to push bad history and habits away. Hope our future to be better.

Sure, Belgrade was actually founded by the Old Bulgarians, and nowadays Serbia was just a province of Bulgaria for centuries.

@@georgikolev6598 Correct, essentially