I would not be surprised If fate grand order was part 3 would be actually Note in fact it would kinda make sense.Since also one of Note scenario was the earth getting similar bleach just like in the lostbelt .
There's this hint about Mash who's becoming a whole different kind of being. From Demi-Servant, both ghost liner and her living human body are actually like merging and are beginning to become a new being. At some point I think she's becoming an Ether Liner. Except I don't think part 3 would directly be Notes. There will be several hints to Notes most likely but not jumping to Notes right away.
@@trianime Well it's literally just about 12 page short story and the actual story is just about 5-6 pages as the rest of the pages excluing the cover is a dictionary.
I remember reading Notes super early on, around the time Fate/Zero aired IIRC. I spent so much time preaching about how good it was to my friends. I'm so happy to see it finally getting some more recognition and love from the community. I'm still hoping (I know it won't happen) for Ado Edem to be the Grand Saber. I really want to see him show up in LB7 to fight ORT. I know we would never see it but I'd also love to see V/V show up as a Rider or Foreigner and Gun God as a Rider or Archer.
Ado Edem as a servant I can see, but a Grand? Based off the Grands we have, I say nah. All currently revealed Grands are actual historical/mythical figures, no TM originals. They also have some form of previous relation to FGO's story prior to their reveal or addition as Grand. *Solomon is the "big bad" of FGO part 1 *Merlin is practically everywhere within the background of Fate as a whole *King Hassan has proxies (i.e. the other Hassans) *Super Orion has a previous version in Orion/Artemis *Romulus=Quirinus has a previous version in Romulus *Nemo/Noah has a previous version in Nemo Although they can stray from these 2 rules, I doubt they're revealing any Grand Servants to be anyone we have no prior connection to.
@@zenrythebard5587 well there’s no counter force during the time of notes but there’s nothing stopping him from being a grand if it was by feats alone. No other saber would even be able to take a blow from him. But like I said idk if the counter force could summon him
@@heerosagayuy2143 I was more looking at it from a Doylist view rather than a Watsonian one. Lore wise the Nasuverse can really do whatever and it'll make sense in universe. Edit: I realize these might not be common terms. Doylist is basically out-of-universe/meta explanation, Watsonian is in-universe/lore explanation.
They didn’t lie when they say you shouldn’t explore Nasuverse iceberg. I become more curious to see what will happened in lb7. Ultimate one, alien god and beast 7 in same body. They introduced archetype earth which I believed probably will have huge role in lb7. There’ll be a turn of events that will unexpectedly make all chaldea effort wasted, which I’ll not surprise if it happened. In melty blood, Roa say Mash will have a more dreadful fate than dead apostles stolen eternity (tbh I didn’t know how bad it is, I’m just started tsukihime, can anyone explain what that supposed to mean?), maybe a 5* mash before she become whatever it is. Counter guardian? Infinite death? Having her own harem?
We don't know since it was redacted. Roa is a character who would think something like an eternity of servitude as an unchanging heroic spirit/record would be a nightmare so maybe it's that. Being a DA isn't bad for those who seek it as it's the natural means to continue their research and life fixation. Though their immortality is flawed in essence by Roa's standards which is why he is a heretic amongst them and went down a different path. His immortality is the real deal since he's given up his self to carry on his will and continues to evolve and change as an existence. Until the end of mankind itself. Run in with TohnoShiki not withstanding.
@@ShadowChasoDemonz Or in the case of his Fate counterpart, a dreadful encounter with a temporarily empowered Edmond Dantes - in the midst of his revenge.
@@Gareth-daupsetpuppy Camazotz, U-Olga, and Kukulkan carried hard against ORT... chaldea would have been FUCKED on their own... it was an extremely WEAKENED version of ORT too...
Hey, I have a crackpot theory that one of Daybit Sem Void's Servants might be ORT. The reason I say is because "regardless of situation the one to ultimately win would be Daybit due to his unpredictability." So what would be more unpredictability them Daybit showing up with one of the Ultimate Ones as a servant? Also I think that way this would happen would by Daybit feeding ORT one of his servants and using his Command Seal to control the servant aspect that ORT would gain by eating his Servant. The only reason I say this is because when the fifth Dead Apostle Ancestor, in Notes, was eaten it gained vampiric properties and took the fifth spot of The Twenty-seven Dead Apostle Ancestors.
Considering LB7 is Aztec based, it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch due to the similarities between that and the human sacrifices the Aztecs were known for. I mean ORT and the other Types could be considered “gods” or “celestial beings” in their own right.
Idk...the Ultimate Ones could only really 'pretend' and not follow the commands. They are not bound by earthly concepts. And the servant-master contract is in itself, an earthly concept.
@@yunantheobserver6841 Technically it could make sense. ORT waits for the promised time where Earth cry`s out in its last breath and calls the other planets for revenge. Then the Types so up/act to finish of humanity. If ORT is Type Mercury technically he is already a ally to Gaia and per proxy could collab with Alaya/Gaia`s Grand System to act as a guardian against the Alien God. However that depends on the Alien Gods motive. So far its wants to wipe out earthlings because its sees them like insects(after Atlantis LB i got HUGE Velbar vibes same logic/rethorik in the Extra games) BIG BUT the implications are that it has plan to do stuff with Earth. Which may or may not allign with Earths will aka if the Alien Gods fucks with Earth and could go against it. Otherwise if the the death of mankind is the Alien Gods only motive then Earth will simply let humanity die.
the nasuverse iceberg is actually insane. it gives so much context to the world. also there’s a fgo arcueid prequel comic that released in 2015 - 2016.
Arcueid in TsukiRe states that she has never experienced the hidden treasures of South America, in a context implying that they could potentially kill her. This means that Daybit could have those hidden treasures capable of subduing an Ultimate One, such as ORT.
It was because she hasn't experienced them. Even then she mentions it wouldn't have been as effective as what Shiki achieved. It's not really suggesting that SA has nukes that would universally defeat any UO.
I’ve got a question? If humans in the nasuvers start colonising other planets how do you think the planets will react? We now that nothing happened when humans landed on the moon but that’s probably because type moon is sort of dead/ imprisoned. But how would other planets react do you think they will accept humanity or react in a more negative way?
Depends on how they act when arriving there. If you were one of these ultimate ones, would you like seeing a bunch of humans invading your space and doing whatever they wanted?
@@thirdplanet4471 but do these planets even have a counter force? Let’s take Mars for example it’s a barren wasteland except for it’s ultimate one what could it possibly summon?
@@murilopenagoncalves3831 but it doesn’t seem like the ultimate ones have much of a free will like arc and type moon have. So the judgment will be up to the planets not them.
After I read the concept notes for ort I now have to pray that he's balanced even a little bit if he makes it into the game because I am in no shake to take on a super boss
@@1rotzy I don't know about JP, cause Roma was nerfed in NA for a while, but that Zeus fight was rough. I joke about holding back (not using Arjuna Alter, Kama, or Super Orion.) but I ain't sure about how well those guys would do against Zeus (in game I mean. In lore, it'd take Kama-Mara and Arjuna Alter with the World Tree and max'd out divinity to actually fight and deal good damage).
@@1rotzy True. Still, I doubt that ORT would only be on par with any of the machine gods (Probably a lot Stronger) when LB 6 has even more insane fights
Seeing as the man himself was mentioned I propos that ado edem for grand Saber. He definitely has the power level of a grand if not greater then a grand really.
We don't know if he's capable of being summoned as a Servant. And Notes take place far in the future, so he didn't have any form of existence in all of the current Type-Moon stories except Notes itself. Grand Saber is probably male Miyamoto Musashi or full power Artoria Saber or full power Male Arthur Pendragon.
Thanks for this video, since the apperance of Arcueid in FGO in JP there has been a lot of info in regards of the Types and what could happen in LB7 and I didn´t have the full context of Notes and why there were this super powerfull beings in a post apocaliptic world. This is really helpful
I remember finding Notes over ten years ago. The thing I remember most from that time is Ort and how overpowered he was and how cool he looked. Do we have any more info on Ort, or will he forever be just a note in an old piece of fiction? I don't think he even took part in the all-out attack on earth with the other ultimates.
Notesverse seems has perfect setting for soulsborne game. Well I hope in my lifetime I'll see that kind of dream realized, maybe form Formsoft x Typemoon colab project.
the Types sound craaazy powerful. I wonder - what level does a Servant need to be in order to compete against the Types? Are Grand Servants capable of defeating them? Also - Can we get a video on Textures?
@@theoreticaltoxic9058 well, their is Amaterasu who is the deification of the sun, Buddha, who could easily rule the solar system, Chaos, literally tried to convert Earth into fuel
What if the foreign God is an archetype? Through the lostbelts, the tree of emptiness are named after galaxies as Sherlock stated. These galaxy names were thought up by scientists. His a theory, what if you draw the projectors of each galaxy to converge at a certain point and that point is where the foreign god is.
I recall there being an author’s note left behind by nasu in a notes translation where he stated he wanted to flesh it out into a series if he ever got the chance.
So, wait, what I am hearing is that the Fate series is a failsafe to prevent a prophecy? And that this is the worst-case scenario if the Fate measures do not work?
I still think there's going to be a crossover story with two stories coming together where the ultimate ones will show up and where this will go into a continuous level to Angel Notes. Tsukihime x Fate Stay Night. I like to add a extra crossover series to this too. Fate/Strange Fake So three crossover stories Tsukihime x Fate Stay Night x Strange Fake.
@@ChaolaoFueChi Maybe in FGO but not in Witch on the Holy Night or KnK. They have one of the ultimate ones being in Melty Blood, ORT. But I have a feeling Tsukihime characters are going to cross paths with meeting the Fate characters something similar to the game like Battle Moon Wars and similar to a doujin manga if you ever heard of " T Moon Complex" that had Saber and Arcueid in a manga cover. Something similar to that direction of the story. Both Tsukihime and Fate Stay Night are in the same universe.
There’s direct confirmation that the eldritch creatures like nyarlethotep exist in fate/grand order. Nasuverse is genuinely the most depressing, hopeless dark fantasy I’ve ever had the pleasure (or displeasure) of reading/playing/watching.
They are. Nasu just like everybody else was greatly inspired to no matter what get into writing after 1st Evangelion episode. Thats how he wrote first Mahoyo LN script in 1996 (publishers turn it down at that time).
Technically the moon isn’t even a planet either but a satellite so I don’t see the problem having the sun as one. Although, if you were to include the moon, might as well add Saturn’s 82 moons and Jupiter’s 79 moons. Then we’d be fucked
@@rialvita7141 no lol, if that occurred the entire system of Alya and Gaia would have been destroyed and made a part of Goetia i doubt even solomon with his login codes could kill Goetia at that point, Chaos from the Greek lb might be able to though
And I thought Kingdom Hearts had a confusing storyline to follow. Anytime I dip my pinky toe into the Nasuverse to look up things, I feel like it’s just an endless, chaotic ocean of ideas, concepts and insane characters - like holy shit now Planets are sentient in addition to all the crazy things going on in Fate’s universes?
Look up Tsuki no Sango... The story by Nasu where Crazy Moon People discovered an Alien Moon Artifact and turned it into the Moon Colony's Battery... And then erasing their civilization by outlawing emotions leading to them not reproducing...
@@moonrock115 Because Kinoko Nasu... Speaking of Nasu... We have a picture of him yet...? Is it already confirmed that he actually is a guy...? Is he really Human and not a yellow and green eggplant looking mushroom carrying a hammer...?
@@bridgettejasperreyes7567 Considering the account of his/her "best friend"/"famous Saberfact-artist" and how they lived together and provided everything for Nasu just so they could create their novel/VN i am leaning towards Nasu being a woman. But it could also just been the ultimate bromance who knows.
Ultimate ones and beast servants working together would be unstoppable not even all the grand servants working together would not finished the job. Could Ea destroyed a ultimate one.
Here is the thing, the Ultimate Ones are literally the direct opposite of The Beast. The Beast desire for the preservation of Humanity in their own twisted ways. While the Ultimate Ones wants Humanity’s extinction, by Gaia’s request.
@@cameraredeye3115 yup Reality Marble put a New Texture on top of the existing one, and Ea could re-create Genesis which removes anything that isn’t Earth texture. But Marble Phantasm is literally changing the original Texture.
you probably need a Goetia level being if you want kill the types , on Goetia i think he should be stronger AAS>Earth wasn't it ? right now he is just running here and there in romani"s body
@@stealth225 Type-Earth legit can’t be beaten while on Earth. That’s why The White Titan was beaten by an Excalibur-lookalike cause she was on Earth and that sword was the Breath of the planet. Goetia is just one Beast that emerge from Humanity and Archetype Earth IS the strongest being on Earth. You could literally think she IS the planet.
Can you do a video explaining why some servants in fgo look like characters from fate/stay night? I.e muramasa looking exactly like Shiro, erish and ishtar look like rinn, etc.
Basically gods cannot be heroic spirits, saint graphs cannot hold that much power, so they take the body of a person so that the saint graph can now accommodate their power.
@@kenthegreatest430 Yeah beasically outside the game, they like referencing other characters from the nasuverse, so this is a convenient way. in universe, apparently (take this as an example) Sakura is very similar to a bunch of gods, same with Rin hence we have rin and sakura faces...
@@kenthegreatest430 also gods can not be summoned directly and muramasa and the chinese Co. is special because they are too weak to be a servant so they need a vessel and for fanservice reasons those vessels are these characters
Some spoilers for Fate/Strange Fake: The reason Zelretch sent an alternate universe version of Ayaka to participate in this grail war is heavily implied to be because false assassin' master (whose a DA by the way) wants to use the grail to wake up ORT
@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA I think it was a very early on conversation where Zelretch was on his multiversum phone while watching Kaleidoscope TV in a dark space & mentioned how he is not amused about them potentially fucking with ORT in that timeline. Tho this could be wrong as i am not sure i remember this correctly.
Finding out about the Nasuverse in the late 2000's and seeing all the potential it had was hype as fuck but then I got mad at it due to Type-Moon focusing on Fate but I am glad it's all looping back together. Still not touching Grand Order.
*gets to the end of this video* So hypothetically speaking if by some chance a Type manage to make its way into a Lostbelt, how long would that lostbelt last for? ÕwÕ
Depends. Ultimate Ones are simply the strongest of their planet. That doesnt mean they are invincible. God Arjuna from LB4 and Zeus from LB5 should be able to fight on even terms and even beat them. And not to mention that in the case of Zeus,if he is defeated, then Chaos appears and he is even worse than Zeus. I mean, the Machine Gods were defeated by the same weapon used against Types in Notes. Perhaps Qin Shi Huang from LB3 can also fight them but not to the extend the above can.
@@umu-san4414 Yeah but not sure how strong it really is. We only know that Spartacus was able to beat one small part of it. And Spartacus, like all Servants, would be no different than a normal human against a Type.
I lean towards "not very long" as Nasu has low-key been changing what planets in general even are over the years which has ended up boosting Types to such an extent the one we know the most about(Arcueid) is a completely different monster compared to the old days. Last I checked the fandom's no longer sure what her limits are now that she's gotten new abilities, forms, had some weaknesses axed, ect. Considering ORT's supposed to be the strongest in the Solar System, no telling what that apocalyptic spider's limits are as well
@@APrinnyDood LB Machine Gods and God Arjuna do not exist normally and need so many conditions in order to be defeated that it is ridiculous by itself. In the case of Chaos, he wasn't even defeated. Skadi and Ivan would be easily beaten tho.
