Breaking Down The DEAD APOSTLE Hierarchy 

Arcuied would hunt them all down if they tried doing that

Frankly none of them would be happy with that. They are much too petty and combative to have absolute control.

They're also Vampire hater's in the group remember Enhance

​@@ShinyAzzy they would have a chance if they jumped her

Seriously! They that strong.. gotta read tsukihime

I find interesting that Vlov is the opposite: he is the exception of a weak DAA.

In the Type-moon universe, you will constantly find exceptions. Nasu just puts a standard so that he himself can make a character to break them.

@@phantasosxgames8488 I think that was the case due to his parent dying and him taking over too soon outside of the blood principal and Ice lance he'd be a standard DA

I don't think that should ever be animated. It would make all future animation irrelevant as it would be too epic.

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Ong, we need that

Based on FGO timelines? Probably got something to do with tits.

​@Loncus Zhao Speaking facts from the Bottom to the Top!

The best way is still be a hero of that era TBH. Like you see how broken Emiya can be...

​@@infinitykiyen6270 he's a unique case due to Avalon he's less human and more of super mage made up of swords. I reject cybernetic technology because that's essentially the same thing as mages your not really human as a Cyborg doing cyberpunk shit. If we're talking normal humans standing a chance while remaining human I suggest going the RE route and using long term chemicals to level the playing field like RE5 Jill and technically Wesker but he's an extreme case

This is completely untrue? Are you forgetting who defeated saber or two shot Beowulf?

@@r.k845 the one who defeated saber was magically amplified at the time and Beowulf was defeated more mentally then physically.

ummmm do u guys ever think that humans are overpowered with the nuclear weapons or just nukes plus we have guns tanks grenades and other stuff even if they don't work on supernatural beings it can still kill a lot of normal beings remember we humans are not build to destroy we are made to build the things we humans destroy is made by us

True Ancestors arnt that strong.Arcuied is an exception and when beserk she slaughtered the last hundred or so single-handedly .

@@SiegfriedFafnirsbane I mean it would still be a fun discussion. Like imagine someone like king Hassan who’s power is similar to Shiki. Could he kill arcuied?

@@futurewarriorhero123 Depends.Its kind of a Reinhard situation.Arcuied is Gaia 's champion.If she WANTS Arcuied alive ,nothing short of ORT or the original Black barrel could kill her Imagine TIAMAT but she is always faster and stronger than you and can drop the moon on you

@@SiegfriedFafnirsbane my argument is that Hassan np can instill the concept of death, wouldn’t that be able to override the will of the planet?

@@futurewarriorhero123 ORT was instilled with the concept of death and Dino shiki pierced its death lines. You know what it did?It just OVERCAME the concept of death. Types are bullshit i tell you.Ironically a dbz style kamehameha would be the best way to get rid of a Type after giving it a concept of death.

Dead Apostles are mostly higher than the regular mages, servants will also have a issue with them backed into a corner.

@@ChaolaoFueChi Depends what tier of servant, facing servants with holy objects or divine construct is basically a death wish for dead apostles

@@King_gilgamesh123 Oh, forgot about the church 10 months ago it seems. True, they could take Dead Apostles out here and there, especially freelance mercenaries but not everyone of them are actually skilled enough to actually make them go away entirely. Servants? Well, it's pretty complicated, very complicated fir servants, at best. Most of them won't be able to scratch a unnamed and dead to higher in the hierarchy list. Enkidu and Gil can obviously handle it but it'll still be a pain in the ass for them to deal with. It also depends on what they have on them to even defeating a dead apostle or unranked dead apostle. Idk, there very complicated and roundabout to think about. Side note and off-topic Spoilers to the Unlimited Blade Works Route: . . . . . . . . . So, remember that time when EMIYA had that flashback looking injured badly and in front of that weird counter guardian space probe. I'm just wonder of the world of Notes is in affect long before in all the worlds timelines?

@@ChaolaoFueChi Ea in its prime or in the past was able to compress and stabalized the primordial earth, the earth in its most primordial and and truest form, where even true gods cannot inhabit, ea is stated to be a construct older than the plant, since it took part in creation of what we know as earth, its older than gaia, it’s also able to remove textures down to the very core of the planet revealing what the earth truly is, gaia is actually covering the primordial earth, and textures are on top of gaia layered and ea is able to remove them on the range the weapon covers, it was able to completely destroy Tiamat’s physical body is a instant in her dragon form, who even in earlier stage had a magic unit of 930 million and it kept rising Drastically. Note sefar only had 337 million, Amaterasu has 360 million if I remember, geotia saint graph is equal to sefar meaning he’s around there as well, meaning draconic Tiamat has more magic units than 3 of them combined, she also has the chaos sea which needs sun to destroy it, but Tiamat can pretty much instantly re summon the silver sea. I know Hassan gave her the concept of death, but it’s a heavily debated topic wether ea can kill her, but it is agreed upon than it can at least damage her very severely. Note ea can be amped by every np and item gob, ea can magnify the strength by 20x, meaning Gilgamesh could charge ea with every single np in gob, note he has many divine contructs he personally collected, and another thing is that every np contains a lot of mana depending on their rank + he also has every np that derived or made by humanity or mankind in the past present future, he also has the cup of Uruk claimed to be stronger than the grail of geotia, and a grail of a singularity so you can imagine how much mana he can charge ea. Let get to Enkidu now, he’s pretty much as strong as the amount of power the counter force gives him, but he can draw mana from earth from the past present and future, in the strange fake novel we know berserker Enkidu is a completely different beast in his mythical form he’s as a true god, and note he also has the counterforce on his side, dead apostles definitely isn’t beating this guy. Gilgamesh and Enkidu actually defeated the bull of heaven, which stated to be the most powerful divine beast and it could combat Tiamat and the chaos sea we don’t know how long it can fight Tiamat or how long he will last but we know he can fight Tiamat at least long enough which in Babylonia singularity, they needed to halt Tiamat for a day or 3, if the bull of heaven can combat Tiamat for that long, and these 2 defeated it, Enkidu halting Tiamat is actually more impressive than most people realise, as stated he overcame the power of a primordial god and in Tiamat eyes he managed to stop her for a eternity. I don’t see what dead apostles are going to do. There are other servants like Karna, Arjuna, lion king artoria with rhongomayniad, Gilgamesh also has a ideal class he can be summoned in similar to Enkidu, Gilgamesh could be the watcher class, originally it was a class specifically made for him, nasu changed his mind, meaning he could be in the same class as leviathan, so we don’t know how strong Gilgamesh and Enkidu is at their best.

@@ChaolaoFueChi Gilgamesh also has divine weapons and holy objects of the age of gods, he has the eyes allowing him to see the past present and future, he can see the true origin of what he gazes upon, just by a mere glance without even using Shaq naqba Imuru he can know anything about a servant, he also gazed into beasts or evils of humanity, he can see other timelines and singularities, also parallels worlds, and the optimal route to victory meaning he can just pull out the right nps and sacred objects to bead apostles

@@armandomendoza7371 So it's a slim chance to 'cut corners'. Makes sense, although it looks somewhat impossible for a dead to be anything but a dead one.

@@armandomendoza7371 Guess that's why most magus who become apostles do so with magecraft, or risk years as a walking slave.

Eh with the power of chaos he is basically a god of evil linked humanities malice long as they exist so does he

Isn’t that just humans?

@@londonmason6129 yeah but I don't think I've ever seen something powerful like a mage or a dead apostle get taken down by technology that a normal person could use at least anyone important and as far as I can tell there are no primary technology users but I mean people who use technology exclusively to win fights without using magecraft. And I think it would be cool for a normal person using their own ingenuity to actually have a fair fight with some of the supernatural individuals in the nasuverse.

@@izzymosley1970 With the Bs the nasuverese pulls there is no way someone could pull that off

@@londonmason6129 the thing is that there already is a character with cybernetics but the question is how powerful can these cybernetics become and other technologies as well I think it would be interesting for there to be a character that fights using a mix of super advanced technology and mystic codes to make up for their lack of or poor magecraft.

@@izzymosley1970 I’m saying that with nasuverese bs someone who ONLY uses regular technology isn’t going to win against any power supernatural creature or mage if it was possible a lot of fights would end in 1 minute

Yu Meiren isn't a True Ancestor, though she is functionally similar to one that Da Vinci classified her as one in LB3. While she is similar in that she is an Elemental that also consumes blood, Yu Meiren lacks Crimson Moon's influence, therefore she has no Vampiric Impulse whatsoever. She could literally go on for centuries without ever having the urge to consume blood despite having the means to do so, unlike True Ancestors who inevitably fall prey to said impulse. This is speculation on my part but you could say that Yu Meiren is the result of Gaia's attempt at creating her own version of True Ancestors, one that is untainted by Crimson Moon.

Akuta Hinako is different

They did explain Tsukihime remake will be made in Carnival Phantasm a decade ago..... 10 years a long ass time fir that remake.

Vlad's case is from a skill called Innocent Monster Basically what happens is that others perception of you will affect how you're summoned in a holy grail war Since vlad was seen as a vampire due to his uhh Crimes against the geneva conventions. That greatly affects his skillset This is how you get things like Hans Christian Andersen having scales due to the perception of being the creator of The Little Mermaid. And Mephistopheles being the devil due to the deal that Faust made with him in the story and all the misery that brought Faust. Tl;Dr The world in fate can literally gaslight a historical figure so hard it becomes true

@@raikoedgymoto Or how someone can be summoned with a Lion head, be fused with a horse. Or, napoleon, who is a caricature of himself, when he is a archer. Mean, Vlad isnt the kind of vampire, like the rest of them.

the community made a fan translation. Then people plays the Switch Version under a Switch Emulator on PC.

@@USPSArtoria thanks fam but im gonna get the ryujinx ver i wanna go through it myself.

It’s actually not anymore because it does have an idea blood. New lore changed the rankings of the 27

@@r.k845 arcueids list in the remake still has ort as the 5th DAA

@@HeyaHowYaDoin Wait really? Damn then it also got even stronger in the weak human order timeline because it has an idea blood too lmao.

@@armandomendoza7371 honestly ort would destroy the dead apostles probably destroy archetype earth matter of fact

​@@kylesky74 Naw, maybe base Arcruied.

Crimson Moon was defeated by Old Man Z with 2nd magic. However, he was defeated because the former doesn't know how true magic works. He was only defeated but is still active. Meanwhile Zelretch can't repeat the feat again, as he's not on his prime anymore plus it took a toll on him for pulling Kaleidoscope. The vice director of Clock Tower, Lorelei Barthomeloi hunts dead apostle ancestors as a hobby, she got outdid by Shiki in Prelude tho lol.

Touko Aozaki can also go toe to toe with normal to difficult DAA but a dangerous chance with Arcruied Typeearth.

I'd say the church is still a damn mystery, even 2 church characters in Mohotsukai no Yoro visual novel is a mystery.

Be great, but they won't waste time on them.

Buying the physical copy of it.

Nope, will probably never get it.... especially since the translation teams that does Type-moons sort of lacks grammar and spell checking and quite slow.

@@armandomendoza7371 they could actually do something to hurt them

@@armandomendoza7371 something like use advanced technology rather than the same thing for shooting bullets

@@armandomendoza7371bro… you don't have to cook this man like this

@@armandomendoza7371 IDK, manz is probably an average American citizen with how much he seems to trust firearms and whatnot. A true American patriot this one 👌

What’s the police going to do ?

Arcuied stomps badly

Ultimate Ones, Evils of Humanity and Grand Servants would like to say hello.

He wasn’t a proper DA. Though power wise he’s above rank 6 at the very minimum. Probably around a 7 considering comments made about what would happen if he was summoned in his home country and let free.