Earth's ELITE MACO Soldiers! - Star Trek Explained 

I liked the MACOs too. Never should have been disbanded. I was glad to see some of the Hazard team stuff too.

Replacing these guys with TOS redshirts is like replacing SEAL teams with mall cops

New series idea: Star Trek MACO? Just a thought.

When I first saw the M.A.C.O.s in ST: Enterprise I thought them a brilliant idea, Marine Commandoes in Star Trek. Then I noticed over time they just seemed become regular Sci-Fi soldiers, which annoyed me. Marines do a lot more than just soldiering, they're elite specialists as adept at humanitarian missions as military ones. Their training covers multiple environments, including being able to seemingly disappear in them and then appear out of nowhere. The skills they develop in learning to perform insertions into hostile territory and ship boarding actions are also the same skills used when delivery aid to disaster zones or going to the aid of a ship. Yet we saw little to none of this side with the Macos in Enterprise. I guess because such well-rounded Macos would still be part of Starfleet even in the 24th century.

IT was nice to see an Elite Military Unit in the Star Trek Universe

MACO should NEVER have been disbanded. The idea that because you have pacifist ideals the rest of the galaxy will as well is naive at best. Starfleet security is inadequate in its job as a security force and the reinstatement of MACO and their training standards would save many lives.

On one side I think MACO would be good edition as a part of the crew on starships, maybe a small group of 20 or 30 MACO units on, for example Galaxy class starship in peace time, to react in situations like attempts of hostage situation, ship takeover by foreign force, in essence being a SWAT team on large starships. In war time they could take a special missions that require precision and efficiency. It would also bridge a gap between security officers that are not that skillful and Section 31 operatives which by Federation officials don’t exist. Also it would be best to be one of the branch of Starfleet. On the other hand if MACO is outside of Starfleet it could be used as force that could suppress role of Starfleet and more militarize Federation, which would make other worlds see Federation as Earth centered organization, so they would arm them self gradually raising tension inside Federation and secession of some worlds would start or making their own unions. As a small task force outside the Starfleet they could be used by admirals to make coup d’etat in times of panic, suppress civilian institutions, and make marshal law on Earth, like Layton did with the Red Squad. It would destabilize Federation since other worlds won’t accept such rule. Also if they are stationed on ships as I thought they could get a command from their HQ separate from Starfleet to take over ships and make mutiny. It is tough to talk of the MACO status in Federation, since mission of Starfleet is science and discovery, but most of the times after a long peace period Starfleet stagnates in armament race in comparison with other powers in quadrant. Also Starfleet doesn’t have proper trained force that could make complex military decisions in field. Security officers look to ill prepared in comparison to other powers in quadrant that have military branches. In wartime Starfleet needs to finds footing and works overtime to develop proper ships and re train personnel that could respond to danger. So maybe under the right control and strong integrity MACO could be a part in defense of Federation as a organization that is part of Starfleet and that is open for all members of Federation to be recruited and whose purpose is exclusively defense.

A Romulan war short trek would actually be pretty interesting, maybe go animated and get who they can from Enterprise as well.

The Mako's are the only semi-believable soldiers from Earth in star trek, so of course as soon as the Federation was created they got rid of them.🤔🤨

I think there is a place for them in Starfleet again following the Dominion War. Sending scientists engineers and glorified security guards against Dominion ground forces was costly very costly. Starfleet clearly lacks in the military lines. Their ships were outgunned and their officers were outmatched too. Starfleet really needs a group with Statfleet Tactical thats sole purpose is ground warfare. The Klingons, Romulans/Remans fared better because they had actual through and through soldiers. The Federation really needs to get its act together when it comes to defence. FED Warship classes like the Prometheus and Defiant classes should have had squads of MACOs on them.

Nice dude! 🤟

The maco evolve into Starfleet security special forces

Kinda wish the MACOs stuck around. Imagine how much easier every conflict the Federation was in would've been if they'd been around.

I thought it made the remaining wars make less sense. Even if Starfleet adopted a more passive stance the federation would have to know that wars were going to be inevitable, and taking and controlling facilities or even whole planets was going to be part of the game. The very least they could have done was downsize MACO to being a reserve or auxiliary of Starfleet so that they still had a corps that would serve as trainers for whenever an armed conflict presented itself. Or another option was to do what the British traditionally did with the royal Marines which make them primarily responsible for shipboard security and trained on what we would now refer to as amphibious warfare. I guess depending on how you interpret amphibious you could loosely use the same term for Starfleet but I think a term found in the HALO series, ODST, would be more accurate sense these troops would either have to beam in or drop into combat. Either way that corps of specialists in that form of warfare would still make sense to keep around in some capacity even if it wasn't an active role. Naval infantry model would have proved to be another effective option. Sense it would have been an actual rating rather then a seperate branch of service. Just regular Starfleet trained in land based warfare and special operations. Much like what the Russian Navy has maintained for decades. Either way it would have worked better then completely disbanding them.

Imagine the MACO forces on Voyager and infiltrate several Borg cubes in the Delta quadrant

It is interesting, to see how the MACO were brought back disbanded and brought back again, every time a new war cropped up. This is something that Star Trek needs to revisit and possibly create a series that explains the progression of the MACO and its role in the current timeline. They are a part of the Trek family and should not be treated as a Bastard Child.

Ideals are one thing, but we’ve seen time and again Starfleet having to put aside their ideals, fight a war, and get their butts handed to them because they have no proper soldiers. We see this in the Dominion War where the only reason they didn’t get utterly destroyed is that they started building ships like the Defiant that were purpose built warships.

Shoots Xindi with what I assume is the stun setting, no effect...needed to set to "bore hole" mode like Archer did to Malik.

Loved this season of enterprise! Wish they would of been allowed to the earth-romulan war on tv! The book was good tho

I don't know if I missed episodes or something but I just never got the feeling these were the toughest leathernecks humanity had to offer

I honestly got exited by the black badges in Star Trek Discovery thinking that they were MACO's. Oh well, maybe someday.

If Star Trek would get it's act together, they should bring MACO back. Meaning it's time for Star Trek to move onto the 25th century, (a hard restart) similar to how TNG was set in the 24th century, whereas TOS was in the 23rd century. Starfleet would be the interstellar hybrid of the Navy and Coast Guard. MACO would be an interstellar hybrid of a Marine Corp/Army/National Guard. Starfleet and MACO would be separate from each other, similar to the Navy and Army. However, MACO would have an interstellar amphibious detachment regularly assigned to Starfleet ships, similar to the Marine Corp.

I will admit though... A more through screen of the psych make-up of its members I needed. The same STRICT check that is done to determine the mettle of Bridge staff and captains needs to be implemented

Naval doctrine in case of fire fight is you call in the marines! That is why you need these guys,

Love them watching enterprise on Netflix right now and that’s why I watched your video

They would have helped turn the tied in the Jem'Hadr conflict and Borg.

Awesome

MACOs from the mirror universe were amazing.

Oh..Captain..You lined up for the ST: Destiny story line..

They went from the expertise and professionalism of the MACO soldiers to glorified security guards.

It Starfleet were the Republic... the MACO were like the Clone Army/Storm Troopers

Star Trek's Special Forces! 😆 Good video. Do you converse with other Star Trek video RU-vidrs to maybe go over ST information so you guys don't cross each other up? Just curious.... 🤔

Why don't they have a HUD in goggles so they don't have to aim with their guns up at their eyes? It's the future no?

Major hayes Is Captain Picard new number one of the enterprise E

Made a Vulcan engineer toon for MACO in sto.

What of the Federation Marines? I’ve heard them mentioned more than once.

If your referring to the Books, the NX Columbia and remaining Crew have a hell of a Story to it.

Need a news series

I`d expect elite soldiers using some form of head protection, or having some bad ass tactics for fighting in a starship`s hallways. But hey, that`s just me.

The producers of that time didn't know how to run a military unit in Starfleet. They only knew how to fight battles on a bridge and blue screen. Look to BSG and see how different units of a ship can operate and tell compelling stories. They had bridge crews, deck crews, Marines, etc.

It is always interesting when the Star Trek Universe over laps with the Star Fleet Universe. The SFU is a version of the Star Trek Universe created by the Steven V. Cole for the war game Star Fleet Battles. The Game had its own history and lore. Star Fleet Marines and Special Forces, called Prime Teams, exists in that universe. I always felt that the MACOS were inspired by the Prime Teams of the SFU.

The MACO's made alot of sense for the show and the Star Trek Universe given that humans were the new players on the block. Unfortunately, the creators of the major series spin offs and movies want to keep Roddenberry's original concept alive in avoiding Star Fleet and the humans being perceived as military combatants. I get that but to me the best sci fi has some elements of reality in it and the idea of us (the humans) entereing into a newly discovered, highly populated, universe with many memberes of that universe being very dangerous while we have no dedicated combat troops seems pretty ridiculous. For me it gets pretty tedious seeing specialized space flight crew attempting to be combat forces when the necessity comes up and being severly unprepared for that particular job. Meanwhile in the Star Trek universe, especially the Enterprise show universe, the general tactic of aggressive alien species is to board an enemy ship in combat.

"At least wear a helmet"- Tyrion Lanister to the soon-to-be late Prince Oberyn of House Martell.

have you gotten the MACOS BDUs in STO? I've never seen anyone who wears it in game, it costs around 1,750,000 refined dilithium

You know, I don't quite understand where Lore sees the effective carry over of MACO training to Starfleet Security BUT it has made me consider something. I may be too hard on them, afterall if you look at it outside the universe, SOMETHING must be the foil of the episode so if Starfleet security was always as effective on screen as they should be in universe... we'd never have an episode 😆

Trek Central 59.4K subscribers M.A.C.O's vs Storm Troopers, who would win? In my opinion.... I'm gonna go with awesome M.A.C.O's, because Starfleet M.A.C.O's are much better equipped, better prepared, can aim and shoot much better, are highly trained in hand to hand combat, plus they never need those stupid helmets that Storm Troopers in Star Wars always used.

Trek Central I think MACO's [Military Assault Command Organization] solders are awesome and are definitely much more skilled at shooting and aiming, more strategic, better organized/very prepared, and very well trained in hand to hand combat than Storm Troopers. Who would win, MACO's [Star Trek] VERSUS StormTroopers [Star Wars]? My Money's on the MACO's winning this because they still KICK YOUR ASS.

From what we can tell MACO little more anti terror special force. They armed with stun batton, sniper phase rifle, a stun grenades and charges. They train effective in hand to hand combat and some them had advance space combat training. Which real did not do the MACO member had that training much good. There advance over stander Starfleet security were follow three they better train in hand to hand combat and they armed with phaser sniper rifle and a stun batton. So they better able to take someone alive then stander Starfleet security. There advance over Starfleet personal train in advance hand to hand combat training have which talk about in Star Trek 2009 verse MACO is unknown. First way Sule said suggestion that he did not have advance hand to hand combat training but, he though best for job. So let go into it now for all we know the advance that MACO have compare to Starfleet security officer training advance hand to hand combat would be phase sniper rifle and stun batton. To be honest no wounder United Federation of planet disband them they claim had to do with not be militery agency something both Scott and X MACO agree on both not per say reliable source. As for United Earth military being disband this far form sure. We know that Federation kept navy. So at least one branch of United Earth military still around in 24 century.

The rise of the Red Shirts................................................

There are such things (unseen on screen) as federation marines officially their organization is titled The United Federation Marine Corps ( this is canon) i can only assume this is some how related to the MACOS either way how in anybody's right mind in a galaxy inhabited by Klingons Romulans Tzn Kethi & the Kzinti that carnivorous feline race from the animated series I watched as a kid in the 70s who supposedly fought 4 losing wars with the federation which upon discovering a new & miraculously powerful technology that Captain Kirk & company sought to deny them one of them identified as a Chuft Captain declared to Captain Kirk that the the federation would soon be I quote MEAT for their tables yet I'm to believe the federation disbanded a military orientated deterrent in favor of a KUMBAYA singing purely exploratory let's all hug it out space fleet with creatures like this in their galactic neighborhood who's idea was THAT apparently someone not opposed to winding up as MEAT on some creatures TABLE fortunately for the people of earth it's merely an entertaining TV program because as much as I admire tbe principles of Gene Roddenberry's Utopian future I my self would object to me & mine ending up as MEAT on some creatures TABLE!

I was in JROTC when Enterprise was airing, and even as a know-nothing cadet I saw the obvious flaws in the MACO concept. There requires either a strong degree of "suspension of disbelief" that these precursors to the venerable Redshirts were as stupid as they were, but that's because Berman and Bragga don't know dick about the military any more than most Hollywood types. They seemed to know nothing about close quarters combat and were too reliant on Future-Tech to do what US Marines could do with a pocket-knife and a can of Copenhagen. I wouldn't call MACO a "Military" organization so much as a United Earth's global SWAT team being lent out to an increasingly militarized NASA. Kinda like S.H.I.E.L.D. it's pretty obvious someone just wanted their name to be MACO. It's been a while since I've seen ENT, but like Galactica's Marines the MACO's are just cannon fodder because it was unrealistic to kill a member of an 82-man crew every other episode. Bitching aside though, I can really see a generation of hardened MACO's not having an easy time settling into an Earth that had just fought mightily for it's very survival only to be virtually handed over to the authority and machinations of the Space UN. Like Braxton, I'd probably be upset at the callous bureaucracy of it all too.

I’m glad they stopped with the palm slap attacks

lol - starfleet ISNT a military force always cracks me up! but i always thought of MACO as the equivalent as the navy SEALs, marine contingent or marine Raiders

I’m so glad there is a Star Trek Explained series on RU-vid. Just saying

I wonder why Starfleet decided to disband MACO.

If only the U.F.P. had the M.A.C.O.s in the Dominion war.

What I don't understand is that if their weapons are so 'cutting edge' then why are they so ineffective? Just watch the first clip again... the rifles the MACOs were using are useless amd failed to knock out nor kill their targets. Please explain this inconsistency...

I think Maco should have there member have volunteer for section 31 of there training

Starfleet saying it isn't a military organization is merely politics, semantics, A military ethos is within Starfleet just not declared. I am sure this hypocrisy is lost on the other alien empires, The alien civilizations aren't squeamish about a necessity of military capacity and use. The Federation prefers negotiation over Force that's fair enough yet the Federation, Starfleet needs to get over being squeamish and just get realistic, that when diplomacy fails force is required.

For the people asking why it’s pulse weapons and not phaser A particle weapon gives away your position, a pulse weapon doesn’t as easily. I liked the maco I hated starfleets happy clappy shit

Go for it we need the macos Protect the innocent and defenseless who r kind bY nature and fiGhtinG against evil even thouGh theY r weak PhYsciallY

What about Section 31. Hmm

Macos need to b back

Starfleet needed to be separated into 2 branch's: the science/exploration and the military/intelligence section. Nobody in the real word or of sound mind would disband their military not long after fighting a war if ever. Their was still the possibility of xindi fanatics who wish to continue to try and destroy humanity, or Klingon Empire who have had several shall we say skirmishes at this time before the federation was founded. Even after the founding some members kept their military like the Andorian Imperial Guard. My point would be is it better to be someone of peace who reacts only after the damage is done to your people or the solider who stands guard always ready to defend their people. You think after 20 something wars from all different materials they would get their head out of the clouds. Just my own opinion I wanted to share. Now if you excuse me I must return to my emperor, Wife to the Emperor of Man Mother to 20 Primarchs. Emperor Philippa Georgiou For the Emperors.

I liked the M.A.C.O’s they were badass.

Its pretty stupid that they disband them

Earth romulan war 2150-2160 is not 4 years

I didn't care for them.

The M.A.C.O.s sucked.