Could WORF be a Captain? - Star Trek Explained 

My understanding of the Bridge Officer's test is that it's specifically for officers outside of the regular command track, for example, medical division officers.

Since he has commanded the Defiant, we could assume he has the qualifications to do so.

even in the real life military reprimands aren't permanent blocks to advancement and only ruin careers that are near their end (mandatory retirement). klingons live a long time, even a 40 year old klingon can look forward to around a century of active service in the future. yes, the reprimands do remain on the permanent record, but if they blocked advancement permanently the person reprimanded would move on and you would flush all that training money down the drain. so no, the reprimands he has gotten are immaterial. they might block some medals and honors, but ultimately if he shows the ability to do the job, he will get the promotion. EDIT: to put it more bluntly, if they want to end someone's career they have ways of doing that, either through honorable discharge, or worse, dishonorable discharge. reprimands are speed bumps, not blocks.

I remember reading, a few years ago, about a Capt. Worf show and I never heard anything about it again. I don't follow ST news very much. Anyone know any details?

He probably took the test either at or immediately after his time at the Academy. Geordi too. Remember in season one they both wore command red and Worf in particular just hung around the back of the bridge as a go to for any station if if became vacant. That to me indicates that he was trained to have a full grasp of starship operations.

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100% accurate!

Worf needs to chill and drink some tea. 😉

I can hear him saying it. I miss Worf.

@@good_teanice_house6789 "Earl grey, hot!"

It's like Patton. If he was in the German army they'd never punish him for slapping a private. The Federation is like Ike.

Unfortunately, the Federation still had superior technology. Keeping his allegiance to the Federation is strategically sound and beneficial for the Empire

rinck17 LMFAOO

Hmmm, Fair enough.

" I cannot defeat this Klingon, all I can do is kill him, and that, no longer holds my interest" -Jem Ha'dar First

@@SVSky Right about then there's just a lot of friendly head buttin and cordial bleedin.

@@omegathefirst "For he who bleeds with me today shall be my brother, we happy few, we band of brothers"

Have you ever skipped your post to avenge yourself on your mate's killer?

John Eldridge Some of the best officers around have been reprimanded or even demoted at some point,but with hard work and dedication they have made their way up the command ranks again.

What the fuck does that have to do with the original comment? Are you an officer in any branch of the military?

@lilmothugs I care and so do you

@@RJStockton yes.

I can see Sisko's words after the failure of that covert op coming from the rationale leftover from the golden age. Starfleet still in the midst of the war, they hadn't "fully" processed the depth of the casualties they suffered, and so by the "old" standards, Worf would have just torpedoed his career (same with the previous reprimand of killing Duras). Though I will say the covert op was a bad setup on Starfleet's part...honestly, pairing him with his S.O., and you didn't think that might lead to a bias in judgment if things went south? Starfleet for sure re-evaluated their officers after the war once reality sunk in. Nevermind their officer corp especially the younger ones now carried the shadow of the war going forward.

@@benjaminbierley2074 Glad you called out sending Worf and Dax out on that mission together- outside of TV shows, what kind of (para)military org would do that?

Wesley bypassed all of that....haha

Great point!

I don't think anyone would have any doubt whether Worf would be able to deliberately send someone to their death if if was necessary, they might doubt whether he'd still send someone to the death when it wasn't necessary or whether he'd just send himself deeming it as a "Good Day to Die" .

He is not a merry man!

@@colinp2238 Hahahahaahahaha.

Lots of folks have been ambassadors.

Yupper, he gave Worf his assessment as an officer and as a man. Loved that scene.

Picard stuck up for him. With the state of the relationship of the Federation and the empire it makes sense why they would make him Captain of the flag ship. As a sign of good will towards Martok. His connection to Martok made him the perfect choice. They knew that if needed the Klingons were there.

It will have first officer excel and end officer power point. Command of USS Microsoft

As along he has a refitted Defiant in battle.

Michael Dorn has been shopping that around for so long that TV head honchos might just cave.

Sisko should've been the one to be reprimanded. He knowingly put two people with a strong emotional attachment to each other into an impossible situation on a critical and dangerous mission. That the goal of said mission might be jeopardised was only to be expected should something go wrong, as it did in that episode. One might argue that the whole mess was Sisko's fault. He displayed shockingly poor judgement.

@@TheDarkestSmurf Agreed, that whole mess could have been avoided by putting somebody else with Worf on that mission.

Worf should've been chancellor. Period. That is what sisko expected.

@@beowolf83 he would be a lousy chancellor- he is not a political animal like Gowron or Martok and has a soft human heart for some things that would be deadly for a chancellor. He would also not have much support outside the House of Martok.

@@SantomPh That is true. Worf knew that he was not the man to lead the Empire. He had no political or military power in the Empire. He has shown countless times his loyalty to the Federation rather than the Empire. The Klingons would probably be concerned that Worf would make the Empire more like the Federation, and perhaps even petition to join the Federation!!!

So maybe captaining an admirals flagship... Say Picard or Rikers flagship...

Wasn't he commanding the Defiant if Sisko wasn't.

There is also Martok's ship.

@Leo Peridot Kira was the XO on the station, since it was a joint operation of the Federation and the Bajoran government. Worf was in charge of the Defiant in the absence of Captain Sisko because it was fully a Starfleet ship.

Scene: The newly commissioned USS Khitomer is heading out to patrol the neutral zone. Capt. Worf over the intercom: "Perhaps today is a good day to die!" Helm and Navigator exchange glances: "You putting in for that transfer?" "Oh yeah" ;-)

This video was made before that… - J

@@TrekCentral I know. But it's high time for an update on the question. I see a great video coming from it. "A while back, we asked ourselves Could WORF be a Captain? And after three years of pondering, we have an answer!" Or something like that. The writers could pound it out without a problem and Adam can deliver it with the critically painful snark that only he's capable of.

As was Captain Sulu.

Deevo037 nah captain Scotty would be better

Sounds like racism! Or should there, maybe there is, be a word to indicate the same thing only towards a different species.

Guinan introduced Worf to prune juice in season 3, in the episode, "Yesterday's Enterprise".

But in those cases, its a position title not their Starfleet rank. Though we have seen instances where other ship commanding officers (captains) also did not hold the rank of Captain. Sisko himself for one. He was a Lt Commander when he was in command of his ship at Wolf 359.

I believe they were coming back from a vacation/ honeymoon right?

while Worf was originally transferred to DS9 to liaise with the Klingons, he was granted the position of strategic advisor for the sector which granted him a promotion to Commander. When Sisko is talking to him about his near-miss with a Klingon civilian transport and "wait till you get four pips on the collar" you can see that Worf has 3 pips, making him a commander

@@SantomPh Worf was still a Lieutenant Commander on DS9.

Where do you see Geordi being passed over for xo? Maybe Geordi didn’t apply for it

Training Red Squad would be a punishment, wouldnt it?

For you maybe, I’d love a Captains chair haha! - Jack

I personally think he would be captain of a Defiant class first and foremost. After all, he had experience with them, and was almost as fond of the Defiant as Sisko was...

@@seanmcgrath3826 that's fair but I was viewing it as in later career. Who knows he might have stuck with the defiant class, it's like a Bird of Prey after all

@@MrJcn89 I see your point; he would probably be good with any combat-type ship

That's a fair point about the BO test. But it has be thought that command div is the default for those who haven't yet specialised in a certain field, so wouldn't necessarily be in basic training... look at Ensign Tilly lol. It was only after her graduation she was chosen for CTP. But who knows for sure, everything in ST is pretty much open for speculation at this point 😊

Worf is a department head and is fairly high on the chain of succession.

They answered that question on Enterprise.

Kirk:Nooob

The Dominion War took its toll on Starfleet as did the Borg. So I think that Worf got his captaincy down the line. It might even come up in the new Picard series.

That dude should have been at least lt.cmdr by the time they got back

We don't discuss that.

Don’t forget Tuvok got a promotion. How many people died on Voyager and no openings for a Lt Jr Grade or SG? What about Mayweather 😂

@@2bituser569 well LT Jr grade is the rank that save u from being killed.

Btw, it might be worth exploring ethnocentric attitudes in the promotion to Captain. Spock confronted the issue in TOS "Enterprise Incident" and Data as well when given temporary command of the USS Sutherland in TNG "Redemption II". Worf is the first and, to our knowledge, only Klingon in Star Fleet (out of canon, that honor goes to Konom in the 1980s DC comics, though Worf may be the first "official" Klingon in Star Fleet). Worf would have faced discrimination throughout his career and, if so, the two reprimands (especially the first) on his record would have been read (by some I would think) along the lines of "Klingons are too volatile to command a ship beyond a combat scenario" (cf. in Redemption II the argument from analogy against Data: "no one would suggest that a Klingon would be a good ship's counselor"; such racism certainly existed among the human members who seem to dominate Star Fleet command structure). I'm not sure if other examples beyond Spock and Worf could be found, but might make for a fascinating study.

He surprised us, made it to Lt Commander by DS9 and then Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. Also in the run up to Star Trek: Picard it appears Worf now holds the rank of "Commander".

@@TrekCentral I can see him as a Lt. Commander, under the command and control of someone less... silly. Ambassador also makes sense. Don't get me wrong. He's capable. ...but Captain material? I just can't see it.

Kevin Gonzalez : and yet he was back on the Enterprise on Nemesis

Memory Gamma doesn't really count as a source since it's strictly fan imagination. Until Picard comes out, the most reliable source we have is the works compiled into Memory Beta.

Considering I think one requirement for a good ambassador is an understanding of the culture your dealing with and to some degree, adhering to that culture when dealing with them, or on their planet. In both cases where Warf got a reprimand, he did maintain cultural adherence and thus avoid a more serious and potentially diplomatic incident. If he had done what he did without adhering to Klingon law and tradition, there would have been major consequences and Worf would probably have been looking at jail time and loss of rank, if he was lucky.

I believe you might be confusing captain and commanding a vessel. A commander may captain a vessel if its small enough while a captain would work as a first officer for an admiral commanding a fleet. Some navies have ranks that are about the same as commander, but may be called a frigate-captain, or junior captain, who can command a lighter vessel but has no seniority for the bigger ships. Simply, you cannot give one captain a huge ship and another a small ship, without it looking like a punishment, and younger officers are better off with something that is not the most expensive thing in a fleet. Lastly, its not just commanding a ship, its about commanding people. A crew of 1000 needs more officers than a crew of 10. This is where junior officers are needed. Being responsible for 500 men on a battleship can be a greater duty than being responsible for 5 on a large shuttle. So what you see may not be descriptive of the full spectrum of rank powers and responsibilities.

Well, in the novels set after Nemesia, he resigns as a diplomat, that life being ‘not for him’, and becomes Picard’ first officer. replacing Riker ( who goes to command the Titan).:So it’s highly possible he could become a captain.

Like a thing like that ever stopped the writers from resetting events.

Unlikely given all of his other accomplishments, the Starfleet of the NG era is good enough to overlook a few blemishes on an otherwise spotless career.

Reload the page .)

Something 's wrong with the question. Can't hear the question. Ignoring the question. Worf will be a captain. ;)

It would be great to see you spell correctly.