Earth was frozen for MILLIONS of years. What does that teach us about today? 

When warm period was the cause of dying off ?

Pre Pliocene. The sudden warming caused the flooding and mass die offs. Much of it is found in permafrost

Capitanian mass extinction event, the probable cause was mass volcanic eruptions.

It's avoidable if climate movements will stop trying to kill carbon capture startups.

@@thehimself4056 thank you. I would have had to look it up. I am certainly no scientist but I do nerd out and watch a lot of science shows. Life on Our Planet narrated by Morgan Freeman touched on a lot of the die offs throughout history and how life barely survived. That’s why I love watching PBS shows and follow this channel.

Then we are fools.

nature will adapt.

@@JackFrost008 : Some species may adapt and many won't and this can destabilize ecosystems. That some new species will take over an area is not the issue per se. It's how badly people are degrading their own well-being out of greed and ignorance. If you don't care that's fine for you but many of us actually care about our children.

@@lrvogt1257 you "believe" in the "global warming" cult. no ty.

@@JackFrost008 : I accept the overwhelming science. Denial is propaganda to maintain fossil fuel's geo-political dominance and trillions of dollars per year income.

Billionaires don’t care

@@ecurewitz they just have different info than you, Yan

@@ecurewitz It's not the billionaires; it's the billions.

And yet the climate has never really been stable. The Medieval Warm Period that warmed the climate to where it is today. The Medieval Cool Period that lead to the little ice age. Then about the time the climate started warming up again became the starting point that human cause climate cooling/warming/change proponents started their measurements as proof that humans are to blame for whatever the climate starts trending to over a few years or decades. Today they say the climate change is very rapid, more so than it ever has before, 1 to 2 degrees Celsius over the past 100 years or so. Totally unprecedented in all of history. From the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University web site (2003). Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University The Earth Institute at Columbia University Open quote. Abrupt Climate Change Around 15,000 years ago, the Earth started warming abruptly after ~ 100,000 years of an "ice age"; this is known as a glacial termination. The large ice sheets, which covered significant parts of North America and Europe, began melting as a result. A climatic optimum known as the "Bölling-Allerød" was reached shortly thereafter, around 14,700 before present. However, starting at about 12,800 BP, the Earth returned very quickly into near glacial conditions (i.e. cold, dry and windy), and stayed there for about 1,200 years: this is known as the Younger Dryas (YD), since it is the most recent interval where a plant characteristic of cold climates, Dryas Octopetala, was found in Scandinavia. The most spectacular aspect of the YD is that it ended extremely abruptly (around 11,600 years ago), and although the date cannot be known exactly, it is estimated from the annually-banded Greenland ice-core that the ANNUAL-MEAN TEMPERATURE INCREASED BY AS MUCH AS 10°C IN 10 YEARS (emphasis added). Close quote. I wonder how humans dumping CO2 caused such a rapid climate change 11,600 years ago. Maybe humans are so powerful they found a way to send our CO2 back through time into the past since they are claiming that the only reason that the climate changes is because humans cause the change. Perhaps you can explain how humans burning fossil fuels caused those two sudden warming events thousands of years ago.

​@@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ yeah, all of us billions fly everywhere in personal jets.

“Know yourselves - be infertile, and let the earth be silent after ye.”

@@sealedindictment Say Wut ? be infertile ?

well said

You didn't witness anything like the Cambodians in Angkor who after building the city for 600 years all vacated from drought Around 1390). Or the Vikings who settled in Greenland and all died off when the climate got colder. Or the peasants of Chamonix France in 1601 who had to leave their village because the glacier was overtaking it. Get the book "A Cultural History of Climate". It's a good read.

Good thing the second coming of christ will come before then. As a side note it's interesting that just a month or two of covid lock downs fixed a good portion of the ozone layer. So if something happens causing the global populations manufacturing to get disrupted and halted and changed, we will be fine. Well, those of us that survive a world war 3 purge will be fine.

I take little comfort that our children will bear the disastrous consequences of our hubris.

I can’t stand this doomer rhetoric. It’s so pointless.

@@magesalmanac6424 it can be pointless if people don’t care or are intentionally blind.

Sad thing is though that another intelligent species might never evolve. I hope a few humans will survive the coming apocalypse, become wiser and build a more sustainable civilization in the future.

a lot of the warming happened because of europe and america.

Yeah, but that is miniscule compared to our skies being filled with all of these aircraft, cargo, passenger, nothing has been done to clean up these massive polluters, this has exploded, all of these cargo ships, shipping us our China trash, while filling our oceans with garbage, many places to start, well let's pick on the little guy that is already driving a perfectly clean car just trying to get to work.

Any individual person reducing their CO2 has no real impact on the environmental CO2 levels at all, you can only address this with massive national level structural and regulatory changes.

Yes it is far more effective for the people who care about the issue to focus on democratically changing the system so that the default choice - the one most people will always take - is the green choice. E.g. if you have to go out of your way to get a gas car, most people will get an electric one. If you have to seek out a specialty shop to get a new gas furnace, most people will just get a heat pump. If you have to go out of your way to get a plane ticket instead of a train ticket for your 300 mile trip, most people will take the train. Most people just want to live their life, so the wya to get them on board by making the green choice the easy choice.

@@wintermath3173 All that being said, don't forget climate change is a scam, it's a lie so our communist leftist government can continue to take more and more control of your life, there is no climate crisis.

It's okay, there's nothing to worry about. it's all propaganda for votes.

and we should give a f about 2100 why ? 🤔🤣

@@Goorood And here folks, we have a perfect example of why the world is f****d, and the kind of people who make it so.

​@@Goorood9:40

@@Goorood Not everybody is a selfish prick like you.

​@@GooroodAnyone born now will likely see 2100. Imagine if your great grand parents said who cares about the well being of our great grandson in 2000. We have the benefit of knowing we're messing up the planet for us and especially future generations. Why work towards certain destruction for all future generations? That's just not what the human race has done historically, people want their children and children's children to prosper, not live in the mass famine of ecological collapse.

Exactly 💯 you got it right. It's the easiest way and as well as the more humane way to do so. Many ancient cultures have already proved that humans can thrive in a vegan diet. Also, the strongest man in the world 🌎 is vegan, don't believe me? Look it up 🫡

That will not solve our problem.

@old-pete not completely, but at this point, every little step helps meet the goal. Plus, the personal benefits are amazing 👏 🌱💚

@@kirkiem23 Yes, it is a little step.

@@old-pete So, unless a solution can completely solve the problem for everyone on the planet, then it's useless?

...and they talk about 'seeeea level riiise' There are *a couple of much* faster rising problems.... food supply, social justice

It's all a balancing act. One i'm confident humans are capable of achieving eventually.

Greetings, please look at the Creative Society project, there are already avaliable free energy technologies, health capsules, even matter replicator and other developments useful for the life of society and freeing time for selfdevelopment, personal life, entertainment but it is necessary to change the format from consumption to Creation, it is important the participation of each person to inform ❤ When the people are silent, the political mafia weaves its intrigues and plans!

@@volkerengels5298 : Sea level, food insecurity, social stress are all related to climate change.

Sure. _Sea level, food insecurity, social stress_ - extinction of species, scarcity of resources, environmental poisoning too. Sea level rise is the slowest threat... We'll be hungry - before we get our feet wet. The economy will collapse - long before you canoe on Wall Street. *next ten years* are dangerous enough. You will not see much of a sea level rise in that time. But war, riots, hunger, thirst, poverty -@@lrvogt1257

To deny humans capacity to innovate their way through a crisis is to ignore history itself. Stop pretending your misanthrope urges are legitimate criticism.

The book of Revelations describes our predicament perfectly.

@@1960DaveS Book of revelations describes the persecution of christians by emperor Nero perfectly. Thats what/when it was written for. It's inclusion in the NT was largely a political move.

@@brianhirt5027 I haven't heard that the inclusion of Revelation was a political move, but I think it had a hard time being excepted be cause it seems a bit like the dreams of a guy on shrooms.

@@josephpostma1787 Been a while since I've studied the relevant history around it. But originally i'm quite positive it was referencing the times under Emperor Nero. The number of the beast was a Aramaic numerology reference where his name reduced to 666. I forget the other details now, it's been an easy 30+ years, but i'm sure it's all on the web somewhere by now.

"Like the Simpsons meme: warmest year of your life so far" Also one of the colder years you'll experience from now on.

Yes future generations will probably be worse off, but our own generation will face a lot of the effects before we die. Hell, just wait 4 months and see what that summer is gonna be like.

I live in a port city and the lake (Lake Superior) has lost over 6 feet in depth in the last 5 or so years due to a drought from record high temps. We're already seeing the effects of climate change here.

I use to receive a lot of family newsletters for Christmas. And they all proudly report the usual lifestyle that got us into this mess: living in big houses, driving fossil cars, not caring about global effects of their diet, buying nice stuff for everyday living, travelling to nice locations all around the planet by plane, sometimes on several occasions per year, children studying abroad etc. etc. And I am struggling how to handle my Cassandra impetus…

SEA LEVEL RISE IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT first, the sea levels have only gone up by mere inches over the course of decades everyone has this illusion that we are melting all of the ice in antarctica, we aree not "polar bears are dying because they have lost their homes" polar bears only use ice caps to hunt

@@achenarmyst2156 electric cars are more expensive, not in any way more efficient and contain EXTREMELY dangerous lithium ion batteries

I have a dear friend who chides me for my propane-fueled whole- house heating system (which I cannot afford to change out), while she and her husband do two to three cruises a year, fly overseas at least twice a year, and trailer travel hundreds of miles each season. They aren't going to change that, so it would do no good for me to bring it up. Our only hope are the next generations that aren't so entrenched in their "lifestyles."

You should watch the Tucker Carlson with Dr Wille Soon. It will probably change your mind on alot of these issues.

@@colbyking6068 : Soon has failed to disclose fossil fuel funding and Carlson was fired for defamation and had previously won a case based on the premise that he is allowed to lie. Neither are reliable.

Soon’s research has been widely refuted. I don’t trust Tucker

@billylambert3543 on what basis?

@@colbyking6068 : Carlson is a radical-right propagandist and Soon has previously not revealed his fossil fuel funding. Neither are reliable sources.

Funny, I was living in Rome, NY, and the same is just beginning to be seen. 2 nights of 80°F, you state, is what it took. That's amazing. It's no wonder that scattered food shortages are beginning to be seen. It was a British study, a few years ago, that found 87°F, all day, dropped grain yields 5% each time it happened. No one seems to notice these things. I'll bet you did. I'm migrating by sailboat, to far South of the Equator, growing some foods, herbs, on board. I'll have to keep that 80°F figure in mind.

@@reverands571 it’s not 80 it’s the day/night temp difference. All plants (and humans) need cooler nights than days. Old horticulturist decreased the difference to control floral crops in greenhouses before hormones…see plant DIF somewhere. Not the same thing as above but vegetable crops shut down (stomata close) daily w temps above 85ish then open again but it’s been getting 85F by 10am instead of 2 or 3 pm here…. Good luck. If SLR is enough and we live (not) float by Rome…we are actually in a pocket that may stay cooler from archeological references…we (and near England?) have a white pocket when rest of planet is red Lucky me. I have no hope I’m just observing

At the edge of extinction only love remains

@@Jc-ms5vv McPherson is a full blown narcissist and the proof is how he is ALWAYS complaining how academia and everyone wronged him and ignored him. Then he discredits my observations and blocks my comments right when his wife and others show concern and start asking me for more information. I think he is spot on but I can’t stand him or Beckwith and his sick plants and stupid cats. Sorry but love is gone too. The last human will eat the next to last Happy Holidays?

Thank you for the information about America. Information about Japan. When the heat wave continued, farmers were reporting on the news that their vegetables were melting. In Niigata, where there was a continued lack of rain, 80% of the rice became cloudy. It will be a big problem if we don't take measures as soon as possible.

"The weather patterns in my area of the midwest have changed." Yeah, I'm in the Cleveland area and winter finally decided to show up two days ago.

No it isn't. You tell them lies. Nothing unusual. Human impact on global warming is almost none - if there is any.

so much of what she said defeats her own argument 😂 1:47 bacteria caused an iceage because carbon is plant food and the bacteria thrived, sucking all the greenhouse gas out of the atmosphere and thus cooling the planet..so why would we be afraid of increased carbon now?? plant life will thrive and make use of the carbon. not a scary scenario. 5:19 human activity actually stabilized the climate and PREVENTED another iceage. this is a good thing, obviously! earth is warming and that is not a reason to get hysterical

​@@CurtisJanzenBecause plant life obviously cannot keep up with humanities CO2 output, otherwise the CO2 in our atmosphere would not increase... Newsflash, we are still in an ice age...

If that is an issue why are some animals/ birds adapting to current conditions

@@seewhatifound Some is not all.

Those corporations are dumping CO2 into the atmosphere to produce goods that we all consume, and people in the West are overwhelmingly the biggest culprits of overconsumption. There's an inextricable link between individual households consumption habits and pollution from large corporations. You can't absolve everyday people of the responsibility of their own choices when it's becoming the norm to do things like buy a giant pickup truck to commute to your office job everyday.

Do you work somewhere? Do you buy products from companies? Do you have the freedom to write to, petition and protest your elected representatives? Do you own stocks and mutal funds? Yes, we need to reduce fuel consumption at home, AND in the rest of our lives.

Yeh yeh, you don’t have any of the more than 4000 products made from petroleum in your life, right? In fact you are living in the Stone Age. Wise up and do your research properly before blaming the producers. It is the consumers that drive the markets, not the producers. Example if we didn’t want batteries there’d be no exploitative cobalt mining in DRC, right? Demand drives production, not the other way round.

@@cadfael4598 Most of those 4,000 products aren't burned, and it is the burning of fossil fuels that is the problem. So we have to reduce our burning of the product that's the primary objective.

@@cadfael4598 products made from petroleum are a minor problem, mostly in disposal. Not really the concern here today. The major problem is burning fuels. And to reduce how much fuel we burn as quickly as possible. Sure we could all go petition mining companies to treat their workers better, and pay a bit more for cobalt. Or petition battery companies to use one of the many formulations without cobalt. And we could all do that while also reducing the amount of fuel we burn.

Pity its wrong!

What a useless comment. "it's wrong." How is it wrong? Oh, the guy on the radio told you so.

@@niklar55 No u

@@niklar55 It is just physics, but not everyone understands it.

Just watch the charts. They tell story.

"Don't worry the earth will continue just fine W/O mankind " - which is not really the issue. First off, we are causing a mass extinction, so while the planet as a physical object will just keep rolling along, life on this planet suffers from our abuse. And of course we humans are species-centrists, and _we_ care about ourselves, except for the sociopaths among us, and _we_ are making life more difficult for future generations of _us_ .

“I accepted to come to this meeting to have a sober and mature conversation. I’m not in any way signing up to any discussion that is alarmist. There is no science out there, or no scenario out there, that says that the phase-out of fossil fuel is what’s going to achieve 1.5C.” - Sultan Al Jaber, President of COP 28, also CEO of Abu Dhabi National Oil Company Seems more and more likely, scenario SSP5-8.5 of the IPCC assessment may come to fruition (or at least the higher end of the spectrum). I say enjoy what you can, while you still can; pity the generations to come.

Earth will be fine, but the things living on it wont

No, it wont. In half a billion years ALL life ceases on this planet no matter what. Once the core cools enough for the magnetosphere to pop we get hit with the full brunt of solar radiation. It'll cook & radiate this planet free of life down to it's mantle. Humans are lifes only hope of outliving that event. Put away your misanthropic urges.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

It's been really weird here. 50f and raining on Xmas is just not right.

Anybody die?

And to think abrupt cc is just getting started. Should get interesting when we lose the arctic ice

@@anthonymorris5084 only gullible people who watch news stations proven in court to spread lies.

While some may cheer this, remember many trees need a certain amount of chill days each winter. For instance apple production will be greatly reduced next year. We also need freeze days to reset pest insect populations which gives spring vegetables a chance to mature before pest populations increase. It sounds silly, but this can severely impact vegetable yields, which causes higher prices

Kelvin is better.

"Freedom units" 🤣

Actually quite weird "they" want to hang on to those units. Fought furiously to be free from the imperia, yet keep using the imperial units :)

In any measurement system, the message is still the same. Rapid climate change will be catastrophic.

​@brandon9172 For scientists working in ultra-cold physics, yes. But for the daily lives of ordinary people, the freezing and boiling points of water are directly observable and make more sense. Since 1 degree Kelvin = 1 degree Celsius, the utility of the scale depends on its usual purpose, not on esoteric science.

Simple answers are usually wrong-for example, your suggestion to make light coloured roofing standard. Why? Where? Maybe not in cold climates? Maybe not in well insulated new construction? I think it would be better to choose the roofing material and colour based on best local practices, and do the same with all other aspects of new construction. There are no (correct) simple answers to any of this.

Have you an idea how much this adaption would cost? Who is supposed to build all the new infrastructure? Most western countries cannot even keep their current infrastructure working.

@@old-pete That's the damn point, nobody has the resources that would be required to adapt to a world that is 3-9 degrees warmer, it'd be the largest infrastructure and society reorganisation project in human history, it's literally not possible. So we should address the problem at its source before it grows out of our control, rather than ignoring it until it's too late.

@@treeaboo That is what I was writing...

People haven't shown nearly enough concern to make some effective progress.

We can stop it. But we won't.

Alberta 6 degrees and no snow!

It can't be exactly the same every year. There are dynamic forces going on. Everything varies year to year, decade to decade and century to century. Everything is fine.

@@glidercoach You're literally the, "dog sitting in the kitchen with the house on fire all around him meme," personified.

@@Atheos-1 You will own nothing and be happy. You will eat insects. You will live where told to live. You will restrict your energy use. You will drive what told to drive. You will sacrifice everything. While the elite: Own everything. Eat meat. Live in mansions. Waste energy. Fly in their private jats, and make you pay for it. All they need to do is convince enough people, the sky is falling and they will save them from it. Checkmate.

When humans lose control about 'civilization' -> 440 Nuclear Power Plants meltdown. A fraction of this is enough to destroy the ozone layer in the upper atmosphere. No life on earth after that.

Humans have the capacity to innovate through the crisis's they create. We may be a one species wrecking ball, but we're the first akin-to-natural force capable of course correction/rectification

​@@brianhirt5027Let's hope this time it runs the same course as the problem with the ozone layer. Since this is the largest problem we have ever experienced so far.

@@minhnguyenphanhoang4193 I'm not sure that's exactly true. The nitrate crisis of the late 1800's is a good benchmark to judge by. Every expert in 1880 was sure hundreds of millions of people would starve when the last of the natural nitrate supplies was exhausted. They even calculated the date it'd run out. 1906. But it was averted by human ingenuity.

Dont cry or worry, when the animals realize they are in the water, they will take a drink, and move a few feet higher and eat some more grass and stare blankly into space......

Too late to stop it. See my other comments, in this list, for possibilities to deal with it.

This is two pronged issue. The climate denialists are a problem yes. But they're quickly being relegated to being in the same space as flat earthers. Nobody serious takes them seriously. What is of greater concern is all the climate activists war on carbon capture startups, which represent our best chance at getting the carbon emissions under control.

Also if it is natural, who cares? You know how many natural things we've altered for our benefit? How is this any different.

​@@brandon9172 As the video says, we've had large temperature rises within humans time on this earth, but it was 100 times slower than now. So our low numbers back then were able to adapt. When we were not on the planet, one of the biggest heat spikes we've discovered was 10 times slower that what's happening now. We are actually in a period where the planet is going into cooling, due to the sun tilting away from the earth. But we have pushed our climate into a rapid heating instead, through the greed of the last century & looks like, the next century also. That's how it's different. The seas levels are due to raise by a meter by the end of this century, but they won't keep going at that pace. By the end of the millennium it's guesstimated that we will have 60m sea level rise & that will keep going. Crops will fail, almost everyone in that time will be displaced ...life will get hard. Unless you are pretty rich. People will look back at us, in our time & think what the hell were we thinking

@@fo4urm640 Yes I understand all that. My issue is with the argument that climate change deniers often make, which is that "its natural so its okay and we should do nothing about it". That entire premise is stupid because it implies we cannot or should not alter natural things for our own benefit. IF climate change actually was natural (which its not), we should still do things to reverse or minimize it. Our entire civilization, humanity, all of it exists because of our capability to alter our surroundings, so why exactly should we just roll over and die in that scenario? Makes zero sense.

Sea level rise is 3.2 mm/yr according to satellites that read sea level rise.

@@abelgarcia5432 : On average... but sea level does not rise evenly due to currents, winds, and geology. A small difference during a storm can create exceptional storm surge. A warmer atmosphere holds 7% more water vapor per 1º C so rainfall increases dramatically. As climate gets warmer sea level rises faster.

Posidon topax satellite says 3.2 mm/year@@lrvogt1257

The Maldives islands are still thriving, 5 years after they were predicted to be swallowed by the sea. It's time we re evaluate this cIimate change thing.

@@glidercoach 90% of those islands have experienced severe erosion, 97% of the country no longer has fresh ground water, the Maldives spend more than half of their budget on climate change, and they still lost their reefs due to bleaching. That’s far from thriving

it's just hype... need to chill dude

@@anthonyrussanowhat is?!?

@@anthonyrussano WARNING: flat-earther alert!! 😂

“I accepted to come to this meeting to have a sober and mature conversation. I’m not in any way signing up to any discussion that is alarmist. There is no science out there, or no scenario out there, that says that the phase-out of fossil fuel is what’s going to achieve 1.5C.” - Sultan Al Jaber, President of COP 28, also CEO of Abu Dhabi National Oil Company Seems more and more likely, scenario SSP5-8.5 of the IPCC assessment may come to fruition (or at least the higher end of the spectrum). I say enjoy what you can, while you still can; pity the generations to come.

I like climate change, it'll depopulate much of the world 😂.

At 44mins and 49mins into the following video, you will see 2 published graphs showing temperature data which refute much of the alarmist information given in this presentation ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OMyLGPmb1m8.html&ab_channel=TomNelson

@@michaelharrison9340the climate is changing due to humans. I’m sure whatever happens 49 minutes in some random video on RU-vid won’t refute it. It’s time to wake up and turn off Fox News or whatever else conservative morons listen to now.

What they choose is biased. Not the facts

@@DrSmooth2000So you don't believe the history books - that the Vikings were able to colonise Greenland due to its forest cover (not present now) and grow barley; that the Romans couldn't grow grapes in the warmer Northern British Isles; that the Scandinavian and North American forest belts were able to grow hundreds of miles closer to the north pole than now. As the well-worn saying goes, it's easier to fool somebody, than to convince them that they've been fooled. Carry on with your truth and a closed mind by all means.

@@DrSmooth2000 But they are. But I am not surprised that followers of the alternative facts school of thought are of a different opinion.

LOL...really? The solar cycle is the cycle that the Sun’s magnetic field goes through approximately every 11 years. (But is it relevant?)

Stability comes from not changing things. We've gone and changed _everything._

You and me are the lucky ones as we won't be around to witness the worst of it. Grandkids? Oh boy, they're in for one hell of a rough ride...

The greatest short coming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function- Al Bartlett We’ll be luckily if the planet is habitable by 2030

Suggesting that the earth has "given us so much" is a bit like a thief thanking his victims for "giving" him so much.

​@@willsumnall3499we are part of the earth

I don't live in the ocean. 2 anoxic events in the long stable Cretaceous not sure if a true anoxic event on the Eocene itself some 15my long or 5X as long as our ice age Primary producers love still ocean. Rafts of algae and simple plants fill aerated top feet in the 🛁 warm sea water, every sunny moments pent photosynthetic happiness. Ocean may look green from space Their decomposition at sea floor ties up the oxygen and sets up process of new coal Elegant system.

Before you get carried away, of the 1.5 degrees C of warming that the IPCC warns of, 1.1 degrees has already occurred. During that period, human lifespans have DOUBLED and the number of deaths from extreme weather events have dropped by 98%. Try researching some of the positives that have come out of this, rather than focussing solely on the negatives. For example, due to the increased CO2 agricultural yields have consistently risen at almost twice the rate of population growth. That means we're better able to feed ourselves than ever before.

@@lokai7914 doom-need comes before the Science. Hard to have nuanced convo.

@@DrSmooth2000I agree that it's hard to get people to think about anything. However, that's not going to stop me trying. There's an enormous amount of disinformation spread by climate alarmists that simply isn't true.

you don't actually believe this climate alarmism do you?

@@anthonyrussano Stage 1 of the grieving process" Denial !!

Ha ha! That decade was the 1970s. Too late now! We ain't gonna do anything substantive about this whatsoever.

@@anthonyrussano It's ok to be afraid Anthony. You should be. You can take comfort in knowing people like you were responsible for it.

@@nsbd90now nice, blaming climate change, which is at best blamed on rampant industry on.... ANTHONY. liberal behaviour

Change is the only constant but we are no longer just passive observers.

99% of all life that ever existed on the planet is extinct. It would be quite arrogant to think man can overcome this statistic. It's just a matter of time.

@@glidercoach : Yeah but there's no rational reason to knowingly speed up the process.

@@lrvogt1257 What do you think will happen if we ban FF without an equally reliable replacement? It will accelerate the likelihood of extinction. People will freeze to death. In the summer, the vulnerable are toast too. What's going to happen, is going to happen. In the next [insert number of years here], a comet may reset earths clock. Imagine going through centuries of misery to reduce Co2 only to be wiped out by a giant rock. Just enjoy what time you have here. Go for a walk, pick up any trash you find and say, _"I love you"_ to people you love, because one day, sooner or later, we'll all be gone.

Thing is, the wealthy is just about everyone here now in this comment section. Everyone lies somewhere on the scale, and most here will lie at the upper end of that scale.

Knock it off. Every country, political & economic system has energy needs. To act like it's all the fault of capitalism is foolish, however you wish to disguise your 'workers paradise'. Besides, those unions will mean jack & diddly as automation increases it's capacity & capabilities. If you're pinning your hopes on that sort of pressure, it's misguided.

@@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ That is incorrect. Relative wealth is irrelevant, when most of us may/may not be wealthy enough to live our lives with a first world living standard- whereas billionaires are extremely powerful individuals which have the financial resources and connections to influence entire governments more reliably than even a hundred thousand souls put together.

@@brianhirt5027 The act of funding think-tanks and media to scam and manipulate the public against their best interests because these companies don't want to go through the inconvenience of naturally switching to alternative sources of energy is absolutely the fault of capitalism. Capitalism has no solution for this. On paper, it assumes consumers and the wider public will act rationally in our own interests. We often don't. Also, automation increases the urgency of change. Capitalism may not survive total automation. Without the means for everyone to work, or an adequate way to survive while acquiring skills leading up to those few high-complexity jobs that may remain- people aren't just going to sit down and starve. Either a UBI gets established, or heads will start rolling. The rich can get away with a lot, but throughout history they always push it too far. If they had any sense, they'd stop building doomsday bunkers to run away from problems THEY helped cause, and instead try to keep the people placated better.

Wow. I really struck a nerve. Good. I must be on the right track, then. And it's the same kind of straw manning as well. "Worker's paradise?" Nice try to conflate this with some kind of pipe dream of utopia. The current world state isn't a product of fulfilling "energy needs." It's a drive to reach the pinnacle via excess and greed. And trying to "what about" everyone as guilty, and therefore complicit doesn't change the fact of where we're headed because of a repeat of civilization collapse. It's always a product of excess. Resource depletion always rests in the wake of dead civilizations. And Capitalism can best be summed up as the best way to direct the most resources to the fewest hands in the shortest amount of time. Full automation is going to lead to a dystopia because those directing it will end up turning to government for protection from those they care nothing about. You want to try to pretend someone is looking for a workers paradise in order to halt any return to an equilibrium. But the privileged feel oppressed by the thought of equality. There's nothing foolish about seeing the actual imbalance that wealth creates. Maelstrom is correct... Wealth is influence. And that influence has been used to manipulate the system to benefit them at the expense of drawing resources necessary to support a society. They've been put in check before. It can be done again. The amount of energy and resources they're willing to put in to halting it is the dead give away.

Yep. The Earth cannot sustain 8 billion people.

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No, we just use energy the wrong way.

Its largely avoidable if people will stop trying to kill the myriad of new carbon capture startups. Enviromental movements are busy bees sabotaging & blacklisting every single carbon capture startup trying to get on it's feet right now under the mistaken impression they're all some sort of shell game from big oil. The grudge has made them blind to nuance, made them blind to the human capacity to innovate a way through a burgeoning crisis.

Doing nothing will be far more disastrous than improving our technology which is a boon to the economy. It always is. Your right that the fossil fuel industry is causing the problem because they have the geo-political power to profit from it.

go touch grass

@@sealedindictment but what about you friend

@@tiffanymarie9750 what about me?

@@sealedindictment if I go touch grass who will be around for you to be snide to

@@tiffanymarie9750 no one ☹️😔😭

Is that a joke???

It is not necessary to give up your lifestyle.

Only after we run out of easy energy will we involuntarily change our ways. Until then...

And man made geothermal by using deep drilling and pipes filled with ammonia based chemicals suited to the local change in temperature between ground and air. If the air is getting warmer, then the difference between ground and air is increasing which makes it easier to capture energy between the temperature gradients.

Its largely avoidable future if people will stop trying to kill the myriad of new carbon capture startups. Enviromental movements are busy bees sabotaging & blacklisting every single carbon capture startup trying to get on it's feet right now under the mistaken impression they're all some sort of shell game from big oil. The grudge has made them blind to nuance, made them blind to the human capacity to innovate a way through a burgeoning crisis.

Except for all the bias liberal bulshit, sure

@@The1redman2 Facts have a well-known liberal bias, sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@FrostyButter you mean lies have a well known liberal bias. Like men can be women and women can be men, covid came from a wet market, Sanctuary cities don't hurt america, Joe Biden is a good president?

A hundred & fourty years ago every expert on earth was certain that hundreds of millions of human would starve to death once the available supplies of nitrates were exhausted. They very specifically calculated even the runout date. 1906. Care to take a guess why that doomsday failed to materialize? I Urge you to go find out. It'll change how you view the climate issue.

​@@brianhirt5027Thats completly different topic.....

@@hennipap6800 It's an analog. A reminder that we've faced "impossible" problems before and overcome them through innovation. A reminder that expertise can be blind to possibility & solutions & that locking your brain into doomsday thinking is a dead end trap in and of itself. It's a reminder that whatever the crisis the critical factors are hope & working to find results until you find ones that work.

We have innovated our way out of or through previous crises, and we will this one too. Do better & broader reading of economics & history for a more measured & informed perspective.

That is because it has not really started yet. We are at the beginning. We are moving close to some tipping points, were nature takes over and it does not matter what humanity does. And in case you did not notice, our ecosystem is already messed up.

@anthonymorris5084: How dare you?!? Don’t let facts stand in the way of their religion…

@@ricklynch8620 But that are not the facts. It ignores around 3 decades of cooling and that the warming happened at different speeds.

@@old-pete The endless climate mantra: "Just you wait, it's going to be bad, you'll see". Repeat decade after decade in perpetuity.

@@anthonymorris5084 Not really. We know for over 40 years how much it will be warming. The calculations were proven by time.

At 44mins and 49mins into the following video, you will see 2 published graphs showing temperature information which refute much of the temperature information referred to in this alarmist presentation ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OMyLGPmb1m8.html&ab_channel=TomNelson

@@michaelharrison9340 So every major scientific organization is wrong? 🤔

@@FrostyButter - No, I am suggesting that you be wary of any body that tries to persuade you to unquestioningly follow "THE SCIENCE" - as you may have already gleaned from the Covid debacle!

​@@FrostyButterno scientific organizations AT ALL are saying "climate crisis" or that humans are causing it.!!. it's propaganda.

@@michaelharrison9340 Yes let's believe a couple of randos instead of literally almost every scientist

I feel that

It's worse than that really as well, current climate models are very cautious and haven't historically accounted by CO2 and methane released from permafrost thaw. There's twice the CO2 trapped in permafrost than in all of the Earth's current atmosphere, four times the amount that humans have ever released. Once it starts melting in earnest it's a rapid runaway effect. Even a rise to 3 degrees could lead to 85% of the permafrost melting. We really have to get it under control before that 3 degrees or it's pretty much over frankly.

@@treeaboo CIimate models? Really? They have failed miserably. That's because the data used, was to come to a pre determined conclusion.

all this co2 was stored away when the last ice age hit and killed all the plant life in the artic, when it gets warm again the plants will regrow where the tundra used to be and consume all this co2 released by the tundra melting, the sky is falling act is amusing.@@treeaboo

Yes, milankovitch cycles are responsible for the “ice age” cycles we see during an ice age. But they have no impact on Earth when it’s in a hot house.

Y'know what people hold on to even more dearly? Grudges. Enviromental movements are busy bees sabotaging & blacklisting every single carbon capture startup trying to get on it's feet right now under the mistaken impression they're all some sort of shell game from big oil. The grudge has made them blind to nuance, made them blind to the human capacity to innovate a way through a burgeoning crisis.

Yeah I can. But they need walkable cities first, and people need to think about local plants when they are designing landscapes. Lawns are lame. Get a cactus.

Tbh the issue is mostly up to industrial use of fossil fuels. Industries use so much more than our "toys" do.

Yes, if you love your children and their children then you will change everything over to electric as fast as you can and insist that all utilities change to solar/wind and power storage and shut down fossil fuel power plants. Yes, it is totally doable... check out Tony Seba as to how it is actually much much cheaper than what we have now and that electric power might become almost free if we do it.

American lives are not capitalist, they are consumptive. We only exist to buy disposable products. Engineered garbage. How much of what we buy can’t be repaired or isn’t designed to live more than a year or two. The only way we will survive is to stop producing plastic garbage and only use our existing garbage to produce new products. No more extraction of resources.

We treat the planet like our parents are away for the weekend. It’s party time and someone else can worry about it later.

There is a loooot of overlap between those two subjects.

I really agree, Antonio!

and ineffecient methods of farming and the meat industry these two issues the main issues that effect our climate more than burning fossil fuels

I am not as confident as you about the chances of humans surviving this coming apocalypse. I won't go into the details.

I don't understand why some climate scientists are against geoengineering. Without that we are doomed, just stopping CO2 emissions (which we need to do) doesn't guarantee at all we will have a stable climate, many natural things could push as out of the precarious equilibrium of the last 11,000 years and we will be in a major problem.

Well, golly. So what? Earth will remain a spherical object orbiting the sun. That's a great comfort to our children.

@@lrvogt1257 Not the point.

Nuclear plants create FAR less waste than any other energy source other than completely renewable energy sources, and the amount of energy you get from nuclear vs the amount of waste it generates is vastly different from oil or coal, nuclear energy is clean energy.

@@BossDrSample that's not my point. It's not about comparing this and that under 'normal' situation. What I meant is: what will happen to the plants and waste when there are no people or conditions to manage them?

Nuclear plants require a super sophisticated society to maintain them. Many, will "die", as the society around them withers. Not many, if any at all, have the Boron "final shutdown" system, that military systems do. Background radiation is bound to rise, as terrible accidents happen. Only 4 plants, south of the Equator, so I recommend moving very far south, to minimize the hazard: along the Magellan Strait, for example.

440 Plants on the globe. They will explode. After that - no more live on earth. Nowhere. The meltdown of a couple of NPP's will destroy the ozone layer in the upper atmosphere. You'll get a weird sun burn then.@@reverands571

All life on this planet ceases when the earths core cools enough for the magnetosphere to collapse in any case. Period. That VERY certain doomsday only humans have the capacity to help life survive or outlive.

It's both the rate of change and the absolute amount of change in the next couple of decades. The high amount of change pushes the Earth over more tipping points. Unfortunately the sensitivity of temperatures to CO2 levels appears higher now than scientists thought a decade ago.

Due to CO2 fertilization global vegetation cover has increased by 20% in he last 50 years. With that ALL living creatures have increased in number as well. Also 40% of global food production is the result of increased CO2 levels and without this extra CO2, 2 billion people would starve to death. Beside increased CO2 level causes temperature decrease via increased vegetation>increased low altitude cloud formation>increased solar reflection.

@@bingbangboom1239...no. I recommend watching Eons for a bunch of great overviews of climate history and global results of CO2.

​@@bingbangboom1239 That increase is mostly attributed to industrialised agriculture and India and Chinas reforestation effeorts. The total forrest area decreased and desertificated areas increased slightly.

@@old-pete Quote from one study---From "1982 to 2016" "new tree cover had offset tree cover loss by approximately 2.24 million square kilometers" which "is approximately the size of Texas and Alaska combined." Quote from a second study---"The greening over the past 33 years reported in this study is equivalent to adding a green continent about two-times the size of mainland USA (18 million km2), and has the ability to fundamentally change the cycling of water and carbon in the climate system," Despite all narrative preservation attempts and rhetoric, ALL(!) green leaf area studies show huge NET gains in vegetation. No way to escape the conclusion: increased CO2 is good for life.

@@bingbangboom1239 They include leafs from agriculture. Industrial agriculture increased massivly, but trees itself are in decline.

Have you been reading my mind? That's exactly the same understanding, that I've come to. I'm preparing a "lifeboat", to migrate wherever the climate is survivable. In fact, it's literally a boat, a Hunter 34, and with small garden aboard, with fishing, seaweed, and being mobile, I hope to ride the Terrible Times out, with a companion, passing on my knowledge to a new, hopefully wizened, new generation. How did you become so smart---lololol

JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. Humans have innovated their way out of previous crisis & we'll innovate our way out of this one too. Knock it off. You want to be a misanthrope, then at least have the civility to refrain from expressing it online. You accomplish nothing by sabotaging hope.

There are ways of not only pulling CO2 out of the atmosphere in huge quantities but also of quickly cooling the planet. Not saying we'll agree to do what needs to be done but it's definitely possible. The biggest problem right now seems to be getting people to accept that the solution is, by definition, irresponsible geoengineering that's doing something stupid and unsustainable...because... Trillions of tons of extra waste is eventually gone and you close down.

I think your data might be a little wrong. +10c over a few hundred years is WAY over even the worst projections. 10 years ago we were heading for an increase of +4 - 5c, but current projections are at around +2.8 - 3.5c ...with a concerted (probably unlikely) effort i think we could get that down to +2c. Which is still an absolute ecological disaster, but nowhere near the devastation you suggest. The temperatures are done on an average over several years, so although this +1.5c was a bit of a blow, we are hoping it's a blip due to the El Niño. But time will tell & tipping points are likely to be reached. Also the mass extinction already started, welcome to the ecopocalypse.

@@fo4urm640 Then get out there and start preserving genetic legacies of threatened ecosystems. If enough people do that we should have the ability to reboot them down the road.

Ever thought of El Nino?

Same thing happened 150 years ago. CIimate change played no role then nor now.

​@@glidercoach then when it repeats every year you say it a cycle. How funny!

Be prepare for the chaos. The average global is warmer, but not for each region, not every moment. I once encountered a spring +20C for 2 months, then it falled to -1C just one week, while usually it should be 5-15C. I remember when Trump said about historic cold in Texas. He didn't count that instead of well-defined -50C arctic, it broke into several -20C pieces to many regions in low altitude. So oh yeah, the average increased, but unbearable cold to some regions.

@@nvkhoi1 It's not happening every year.

Nice analogy.

Incorrect. There's literally dozens of carbon capture startups that have launched in the past two years. Many of them look quite promising. The doom prognosticators assume a static destruction. They either ignore or dismiss human capacity to innovate their way through a crisis. Even though we have many, MANY times before.

@@brianhirt5027 Carbon capture could be compared to the parachute in the above example. It can help to slow you down, but it doesn't protect you from stopping too fast.

@@BanjoGate seems to me in another 50-100 years our inheretors will have the capacity to dial up or down the earths thermostat at will. Considering the scales involved i'd imagine we'll be able to do so with incredible incremental accuracy. We want it warmer? We slow down carbon capture. We want to it cooler? We pull more carbon out than's going in.

We are in an ice age...

@@old-pete glaciers and polar ice is melting - disappearing.

@@gordienj It is still there and it will be for a couple thousand years, unless we really mess it up.

What co2 level do we have now and what was the co2 level when the giant lizards lived? Bet you feel stupid now

@@arkimas1137 Your question didn't answer anything. What is the stupid part?

Unfortunately the Milankovitch Cycles are in a cooling and not warming cycle. There were also no vulcanic eruptions of the size you talked about.

If you're a harvard educated geologist, what's your issue with paragraphs?

@@Bogwedgle *_I use speach to text AI software and it's not perfect. The END of the Ice-age is real, just google it. Ask any Mammoth or Saber tooth tiger or ice evolved animal why they suddenly died during the last 12,000 years. This is not human caused but a new Solar-Maximum starting up. Your a Democrat tring to prove my post wrong since my grammar is off. Old tactic. I have seen it all my life._*

Note that ice cores are taken not to study the ice but the gas isotope ratios of the air trapped in the highly compressed ice. The ratios are a measure of the average atmospheric temperature from when the ice was formed. Tree ring data is useful mostly for the more recent period the last ten thousand years or so which is also the duration of human civilization. Plant temperature zones are a better long term temperature measure as plants tend to be highly specialized to particular temperature ranges. The USDA had to recently update its planting zone charts for the US because of global warming with the shift about 300 miles every ten years. For the last thousand years or so there is also very good data for specific locations from Church and Chinese state first/last freeze, river and lake melt/freeze and growing season records. The heat island question has been heavily studied, just google it.

Aqualung sales will soar because every time we traipze to the beach with the Missus and 3 kids with plastic buckets & spades we'll all wear Aqualungs so's the kids can reach the sand to make the sand castles. That's a knock on effect I bet didn't dawn on you, See, that's called "thinking outside the box".

"Right now"? Doesn't even matter as the lag will ensure those tipping points *WILL* be reached and human behavior no longer have any impact. As for "billionaires", we're all free to boycott all luxury items and cheap imports and start living off the land. But we won't. So it's everyone's fault.

Do it! Do it now! Stop using all oil and stop using the products of petroleum. No electricity for you. Let me know how you do, but don't use anything electric to do that.

We're smart enough to cause problems, but not smart enough to fix them.

Tell that to India and China, the only nations that have been willing to do this are the western nations of North America and Europe. Also green economic changes proposed by the left would have more disastrous effects on everyone than doing nothing

Decimated doesn’t sound too bad - only a 10% reduction in population.

Actually, that's incorrect. We've built civilization primarily from the unstable climates of the temperate zones rather than the more stable equatorial climates.

don’t cry 😭 “Know yourselves - be infertile, and let the earth be silent after ye.”

@@sealedindictment I disagree with Zapffe, and would argue thusly: All species in the Universe have only three mandates: First, to recognize that they are part of an ecosystem and totally dependent upon it's health and well-being for their own survival. Thus they realize that they are to act as keystone species, stewards and resources to their world, leaving it to their progeny in a better state to than when they received it from their parents. Second, to propagate their species and its ecologically-based life-support system throughout the universe where alien species has not already done so. As their culture, economy and technology is ecologically-based and ecologically-constrained, growth within the sustainable bubble of their civilization is possible only through enhancing ecosystem functional capacity. Third, to protect and defend that bubble of life from all hazards and threats, arising from both within and from without, that would seek to harm and destroy it. THAT'S ALL! The Universe is a high pass filter that selects for the ethical species. That is it's purpose. Obey the mandates and your species will have eternal life and evolve into a moral creature. Disobey and your species will suffer the eternal death of extinction. No gods need be evoked to punish or save. We do it to ourselves!

@@resilientfarmsanddesignstu1702 sounds like anchoring and sublimation to me 😂 or maybe just plain old cope

@@sealedindictment better to have something to strive for than nothing to strive for, or worse, to become a simple hedonist seeking their own pleasure at the expense of others, the ecosystem and ultimately themselves. Forever feeding a vacuous hole that can never be filled. I think that is a far worse fate. Don't you?

@@resilientfarmsanddesignstu1702 No matter which way we go, it is no better than any other. It is all the same whether you achieve something or not, have faith or not, just as it is all the same whether you cry or remain silent.

What has the time earth was a glowing rock to do with our optimal temperature today? The optimal temperature is the temperature the current ecosystem and our society is optimized for and that is not a few degress higher.

At 44mins and 49mins into the following video, you will see 2 published graphs showing temperature data which refute much of the alarmist information given in this presentation ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OMyLGPmb1m8.html&ab_channel=TomNelson

@@michaelharrison9340 You're saying literally 97% of climate scientists are "alarmists"? 🤔

@@FrostyButter Other presenters have worked out that the 97% was more like 0.5%, but the figure was grossly fiddled to fit the narrative. A brief search may teach you more than would a lecturer already captured by the narrative. Several decades ago, a major benefit of a university education was that it encouraged me to carry out my own research - I can't comment with authority on today's education system, but the MSM narrative is that it seems to have changed for the worse.

@@michaelharrison9340 Well the Earth is 4.6 billion years old which is practically incomprehensible for our humans to even grasp. It makes a lot of sense that there have been a lot of variation through that long duration, it’d be funny if there wasn’t. Even if we look just at the Cenozoic Era (the current one we’re in), it id highly variable. Of course the Earth had experienced hotter temperatures and much greater CO2 concentrations with in the millions of years let alone the past billions. However, if you look at the rates of warming now, tied in with CO2 concentrations and sea level rise, they’re at the fastest growing rates this planet has ever seen in it’s 4.6 billion years of history. If that’s not evidence/proof then I don’t know what is.

Knowing how to read graphs and interpret data correctly is really important!

They will be, until they realize those poor people are the only reason they make money.