Hes so powerful that if he possesses a town map at any time his lady attractivness will reach sutch highths that the universe will colapse on itself on poos pure ability to be a ladys man itself long before gygas even has the chance
*To people who are confused by this segment:* The Chinese character, "無" (wú) meaning "nothingness"/ "emptiness"/ "without" is pronounced "mu" in Japanese. It's a regular word, but in religion & philosophy, it is used when describing plainly existing, and is an important part of attaining enlightenment. Poo's training is meant to follow the meditative enlightenment training found in Asian culture, whereby resisting temptations (as seen by the NPC text of everyone saying Poo has gotten so serious lately), you will get enlightenment. These types of stories often have the person who attains enlightenment be able to exist on nothing but ambient "mystical energy" in the universe and the dew that collects on leaves/grass, hence the restoring more Psychic Points with mere water. The part about Poo giving up his body is also meant to be part of the "plainly existing" concept. In stories like this, there are often _mystical spirits_ that use magical powers try to disrupt the meditator with _illusions_ that will target not only his desires, but also his worries and sense of morality. The meditator is supposed to be dedicated enough to resist all of this and attain enlightenment. This concept is very common in Asia and this part of the game wouldn't be as confusing (as in not obtuse game design), or as scary if you go into it being familiar with this and having this mindset. I think this part of the game wasn't localized as well as it could have been; since it could have done more to catch people up who aren't familiar with these concepts. The whole thing about Poo being royalty, then foregoes his worldly riches, comfort & the ladies and attains enlightenment is probably modeled after one of the important Buddhas. I think there was an Indian royal who did this? I don't think Dalaam is a mix between south Asia and the middle east, but rather southeast Asia, since southeast Asia already mixes east Asian and south Asian culture (architecture, religion, philosophy, ethnicity, etc). I did say that Dalaam reminds me of southeast Asia; maybe Thailand, but considering it might be on a mountain (as opposed to being floating in the sky), I might be wrong and it may not be based on southeast Asia, but rather Tibet, which also fits the themes of blending east Asian and south Asian cultural aspects. While we're talking about Asian things, I haven't looked into Earthbound's details of "Cup of Life Noodles," but I do know that in Chinese culture (and I think all of those other cultures that were influenced by it, such as Japanese and Korean) we eat long noodles on our birthday/New Year's Day because the long noodles symbolize long life and the superstition is that eating it on our birthday/New Year's Day will extend our lives.
Mu is a particularly strong concept in Zen Budhism. Translating it to nothingness/emptiness isn't quite right. The term is itself a paradox - how can one accurately define nothing/emptiness/clarity using words (which are something). Thus what "Mu" is, is a subject of heavy debate by great Zen Buddhist, however it is believed that attempting to answer this may lead one to discovering important concepts about the universe. Zen also emphasizes detachment of (for lack of a better word) the physical body more heavily than other schools of Buddhism, thus ancestors disembodiment routine, etc...
+Jamie Marshall I never said "無" (wú) means "nothingness"/ "emptiness" in Buddhism, I said it means that in *Chinese* and *Japanese.* An excerpt of what I originally wrote: _The Chinese character, "無" (wú) meaning "nothingness"/ "emptiness"/ "without" is pronounced "mu" in Japanese. It's a regular word, but in religion & philosophy, it is used when describing plainly existing, and is an important part of attaining enlightenment._ (It's a regular word means that if you wanted to make a sentence in Chinese, or Japanese saying "This dessert can be made without baking," you could make that sentence using the word "無". It exists outside of a Buddhist context; something westerners usually overlook.)
If anyone's wondering what that flashing text thing is at 1:00, it says "Ooof... Much more obvious save and reload than I intended." I spent a whole minute trying to catch it (seems it's only there for a single frame) So you don't have to.
He! Is! The great mighty Poo And he's going to throw his kicks at YOU (Edit: holy crap guys thanks for piling on I needed a laugh today, this is why I love Chuggaa's community)
Do you really think you'll survive in here? You don't even know which cave you're in. Pokey is the only thing that makes it out of here. How do you think he keeps his giant grin?
Now I'm really getting rather ticked. You're like a creepily, sheakily crappy little Life Horn. When I've knocked you out with all my kicks I'm gonna use my skills and cast PK Starstorm! Starstorm? Starstorm! Starstorm... That's right Starstorm! Oh... Starstorm!! GAAH! STAR *STOOOOORRRRRRRRRRMMMMM!!!*
That's interesting. I always imagined the girl telling you to go back was actually an illusion to test your resolve to keep meditating no matter what. I never thought of it as it actually being her trying to screw with you. Cool to see different perceptions :)
Paula: Who’s that? He looks _dreamy_ .... *Paula takes Poo towards the beach* Poo: I only live to serve Ness! Ness: well my own dream took away Paula... *sighs* Jeff: don’t worry, I’m still he- Ness: Shut up Jeff, come back when you’re the main character! *R.I.P. Jeff’s screentime*
I know man, I missed school today because I was too busy controlling my brother to get off his work shift and get back to me so I could go to school, but then my favorite youtuber uploaded a video around 5:00 so I thought I might as well stay home. Oh wait, this is that video.
Mu is a Zen Buddhism thing, literally means "not have, without" (from Chinese, Korean and Japanese), so, the Mu Training is to acquire The Nothingness of the Mind, some sort of enlightenment, I'd wager.
Nope! Combining a Brain Food Lunch with a Jar of Delisauce doesn't just double its 300 HP 50 PP recovery, it outright fully heals you. As a proof of concept, way late into the game, after a certain event, one of my character has way, way more than just 100 PP. He ate a Brain Food Lunch with Delisauce, and he got all of that PP back.
You say that his back sprite is unused, and I guess you’re right on the regard that you can’t see it during normal gameplay, but if you do that glitch on the stairs in Summers, you could theoretically get behind the throne and speak to him from behind, couldn’t you?
Honestly this point is one of the only things I remember from earthbound - I saw Emile's first letsplay years ago. This part is just so creepy to me...
Oh Poo, I have several things to say about how odd you are as a party member You can use very few items and basically need to rely on Ness/your own healing, you need to carry around bottles of water specifically for keeping up your pp, you're a red mage who comes in at the end, so you come into a party with two people who already do your job better, your one weapon that could make you a decent physical attacker is a pain to get, you come in with lower levels, and you have another problem later on when it comes to your level curve. And I think Jeff's segment is way more entertaining then yours personally. Congrats on the smash ultimate cameo though! (also, I do still have a feeling of satisfaction/"oh yeah" once he joins the party and it's all four kids)
Alakazamlover4 it was super rushed. It feels out of place. I mean I get that it’s been determined by destiny that Poo must join the other three, but the means by which he got there... he goes from point A to point B way too quick. I would’ve liked for him to hear Paula or something. His sudden joining with plain dialogue of “I’m joining you and I will obey you” doesn’t do his character depth any favors.
yeah :| i mean Paula...well we all know Paula's story (And its honestly pretty good) then Jeff? even Jeff got a better story! he had to sneak out of school and fight his way all the way to where Ness was and save him! I feel like there could've been more done with that girl trying to trick him, like her saying Ness was somewhere else when he went outside to leave, him teleporting there, and then having to find Ness from there....
Poo: Hey, why my name is poo Old guy: Cause whoever raised you must have hated you Poo: But I haven’t done anything hateful Old guy: Well a fateful encounter with a star man may answer why Poo: What’s a starman Old guy: you’ll find out
I like to think that the spirit was tricking Poo. Testing to see if he would be willing to do whatever was told if necessary. I mean, come on he still has his arms _and_ can still use his legs.
It's like the Sea Witch in The Big Adventures of Majoko who claims that she would give a mermaid who had fallen in love with a land-dwelling prince a chance to live happily with the prince in exchange for her voice (sound familiar?) and when the mermaid goes through with it, upon her tail being changed into a pair of legs, realizes that she still has her voice, which is when the Sea Witch (who wears a turban shell on her head a la Slowking) reveals that she was testing the mermaid to see if she really wanted to go through with her decision even if she didn't entirely know whether the price for the sacrifice made would be truly paid...
It might have had to do with the misaimed marketing and the translation team working together. Pu would have still elected some giggles, I think, but without being quite as obviously juvenile.
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DREAMIN! dont give it up ness! DREAMIN! dont give it up paula! DREAMIN! dont give it up jeff! DREAMIN dont give ti up poo! dont givitup givitup givitup!
Unspoiled Earthbound watcher here. Poo is a PRINCE?! From his name, I always assumed he was a comic relief character. I definitely did not thing he was a serious “i will die for Ness” sort of guy. Also, the meditation scene. JEEZ. What happens if you say no?
I always interpreted Poo’s training as him learning to let go of his conscious self and dispel all that he fears to lose, even his own life as that would not allow him to fight without fear. If you have nothing to lose, you have nothing to fear. In the Japanese game, Mu meant “nothingness” instead of what we got as “emptiness”. Makes more sense when you get the original meaning
Chugga, your uploads always help me when I feel down about something and when you stop for a week or two it makes me feel empty Thank you for being you
I remember when I was a kid and I heard this when watching your original lp, I interpreted this scene as the weird floating head taking Poo's body and using it for himself with the real Poo just left to float in the void. It also ment I was confused when Poo didn't betray the group at some point.
During the 'battle' with Poo's ancestor, the ancestor asks to take Poo's arms, Chuggaa said things like "ow" and howls with pain along with the sounds of the attacks. Then when his ears were torn off, chugga spoke muffledly before the head revealed it was writing words in the air XD
I just beat this game for the first time yesterday, and I've gotta say, out of all the scenes and situations that took place in this game, this one from today's episode will probably stay with me the longest from this game. I immediately caught on to what the girl was trying to do, so I never got up to talk to the dad, but when that monster came out, I thought it'd be funny to just give him everything. But with how long that scene plays out, how the music cuts off, how the visuals fade, the more I committed the more I was genuinely freaked out. I actually felt bad for even doing that (even if it was just a video game), and I was starting to wonder if I did the right thing or not. It turns out I did, but man I'll never forget how I felt going through with that for the first time. Glad I beat it now so I can enjoy the rest of this playthrough with some context, the game really did live up to its praise. Keep up the good work Chuggaa!
I can hear why someone might think the meditation sound is akin to drilling, but it sounds more like a low-pitched cow mooing to me. Which makes some sense, considering it's called _Mu_ training....
...i think the ost that plays when Poo is meditating is suppose to sound like cows...it is MOO TRAINING XD (seriously though, it sounds like a warped herd of evil cows...)
I don't think she was manipulating you, I think it's actually part of the trial - it's a place of NOTHINGNESS. By acknowledging her, you're showing that you haven't embraced the nothingness of Mu.
_Spirit_ _Has taken my sight_ _Taken my speech_ _Taken my hearing_ _Taken my arms_ _Taken my legs_ _Taken my soul_ _Left me with life in HE--_ *• Prince Poo!* *• You have now completed your training!*
god, i nearly forgot this game when i watched emile's lp all those years ago, and suddenly the spirit dude started his whole spiel and nostalgia (and a little bit (a lot) of fear/unease) just swept through me oh boy.
And now for what I think is the single most terrifying part of the game: Mu training. 2:25 I thought that was pretty evident with the fact that concentration was used twice in the flavor text. 3:20 You’d think that. A look at his stats tells you...Poo’s got a lot of catching up to do. 6:14 Poo is a rather gimmicky character. Being someone from a vastly different culture, western foods don’t do a whole lot for him recovery wise. Western weapons are even more foreign and will cause his Offense stat to drop of al things. He’s no more accurate than anyone else with a Yo-Yo in this case either. However he gets more benefits from the more simple things in life like water and Brain Food. Combat wise, he’s somewhere in between Paula and Ness, being good at both Psychic and Physical attacks but not being better than either of them at their respective stat. He does have an exclusive ability which I’m sure Emile will show off later. Its usefulness is...debatable... Have you not seen Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Emile? Patty-cake can be a lot more suggestive than you let on... 8:55 Don’t let Pippy hear that. 9:42 You can tell that Mu training’s begun when you randomly start hearing “moooooo” as you meditate. 10:20 I’m sure the scene that followed did not help whatsoever. This also might explain why Emile doesn’t like ReDeads. Their moaning in OoT and MM is pretty similar. 11:40 So you’re saying you’ve done this a lot in XC2? 12:12 Fool him one shame on you. Fool him twice, tell him to get the Player’s Guide. And now it really begins. The following trial is really frightening, I find. I can just imagine how torturous it must be to have all of your limbs and even your sense of being forcefully torn off, piece by piece. Even if it’s not real, living through it mentally is not fun. And the worst part is, you have to keep going no matter how much you’re suffering, because if at any point you say no or yield, you lose. There’s a comic that gruesomely details Mu training as Poo is ripped to shreds...it’s not pretty. Even now I’m cringing as Emile is just calmly reading the ancestor’s spiel. Gods, this is unsettling... 15:04 Man, T’Challa never had to put up with any of this crap! Honestly, and maybe it’s because of all the rock candy I had the party eat, but I think this is the darkest moment in Eartbound, darker than endgame even. 16:25 And it’s the highest form of PSI Teleport. What we’re about to see isn’t really accurate to what it’s actually like, but the idea is still the same: you run around in a circle instead of a straight line. Makes it easier to get out of places with a lot of obstacles blocking a straight running path like Winters. 17:04 And no, it’s not just because of the additional inventory. Having a full party always feels good.
13:03 This is officially my scariest moment in the whole game! 😨 You were right! This is is a scary sound, and everything else that comes with it gave me an even bigger reason to be afraid of it!
This part of the game (specifically the mu training) always freaked me out. I interpreted it as the spirit literally tearing Poo's soul out of his body and taking his place. The fact that Poo is extremely focused on saving the world, expressing no other personality traits for the bulk of the game, did not help alleviate my unease. The fact that he can "mirror" enemies played into it, because you lose control of him if he successfully takes the form of an enemy. For these reason, Poo is a character I've never really felt entirely comfortable with. I've come to love horror in recent years, but the way I interpreted Poo's Mu training still gives me the chills
Hey, it's a next-generation royal going to an important trial, meeting with the spirit of his ancestors, and the main protagonist gets a vision of them nearly dying, all shortly before permanently joining the team! Why does this sound so familiar?
