Earthrise Retroperspective: A Bad Toyline? 

I don’t think it’s bad, it just had some really big L’s.

It was a decent line, but siege makes me think they could’ve done better

I'm actually surprised with Hoist's positive reception; he's all hollow, doesn't feel solid, and his entire hood being cast in transparent plastic scares the ever living hell outta me whenever I transform him. Then again though, I actually liked ER Starscream and Wheeljack, so maybe I just have bad taste.

I think earthrise’s biggest issues where QC and tolerances, I feel like quite a few figures in the line had you flexing the plastic, and of course, QC was a nightmare, I was pretty lucky when it came to QC though

After getting earthrise starscream I didn't bother hunting down the rest of the earth seekers and just kept the siege ones as my main seeker team.

Let's hope that the next trilogy doesn't have another earthrise

The nice things about your review are that they are nice and quick and don't take 20 minutes. This is why I like watching your videos you get them dome quick

Starscream er is credited for being the literal only wfc figure with no waist swivel

I feel like there is no excuse for the QC problems, the plastic on ironhide feels like a bootleg, and also all the other Design problems. Like making hinges out off thin transparent plastic and adding partsforming just to save some budget. And also the higher prices and smaller size

Every other review: *praised earthrise* Also Every other review: *says earthrise is not as good* Perspectiveend: “You couldn’t live with your own failure, and where did it bring you? Back to me.”

I think earthrise is like the weird middle sibling of the war for Cybertron trio, siege was awesome, kingdom was great with the beast wars figures and the fossilisers were kinda cool, but i feel like earthrise was trying too hard to meet the standards that siege set and QC kinda got thrown out the window. (Grapple and Hoist were sick though)

Complain about the Cliff mold's shortcomings if you must, but, still be grateful we got a Bug Bite figure out of him.

Yeah, the Earthrise toyline section of the WFC trilogy was decent. It had a interesting roster of characters. But should have been made better and lasted longer. -The distribution sucked, with these exclusives and store retell quantity.

Despite the good and positives of this line, there's are some bad and negatives too. Honestly, this line feels like we're getting unfinished and unpolished prototypes released for retail.

nice edit to an old video also that part where cliffjumper explodes was my favorite

I'm surprised that cliffjumper paint hasn't shipped after so many direct hits!🤣🤣🤣

I had received Wheeljack as an early Christmas presents, one of those that you can’t open until the actual Christmas Day so you have to only stare at them for like two weeks. And when the day finally came I was so excited to open him and mess with it, but his leg windshield pieces were both the left one, so he couldn’t transform well. I tried reaching out with Hasbro but they told me to see it with the store i bought him and after some talk with the manager they got the faulty Wheeljack and I was able to grab another one free from the store. Unfortunately everyone had bought the other Wheeljacks in the store and the only Earthrise figures were Ironworks, Hoist and Cliffjumper, and I grabbed the Cliff. I know the figure isn’t perfect and I despise the Partsforming but thanks to that history I cannot bring myself to dislike it, he was some type of consolation price but I still like him a lot and will be forever one of the most important figures in my collection. If anyone read all of this, thank you for listening me :)

It was an excellent toy line! It did have its QC issues sadly.. but other than QC issues enjoyed it as a toy line!

i really feel like the WFC figures have had WILDLY inconsistent quality. sometimes they have been bangers, sometimes they have been... well..shampoo bottle plastic dollar tree quality. this isn't even factoring the chaotic QC.

Sorry, but I legit laughed at your thoughts on Arcee. However, you summed it up perfectly. 👍

I love how you didn't include cliffjumper in the beginning because of your beef with him haha

These are my criticisms of my er figs Grapple: it’s ok Smokescreen: the gun broke in half and very hard to get out of hand Sun streaker: just wish it had an actual gun Wheel jack: it’s ok Double dealer: the legs suck Starscream: nose cone Airwaves: great Allicon: it’s ok

Completely agree with you man, a completely mixed bag of a line. The seekers were probably my biggest disappointment out of the whole thing, though I’m happy we got new Grapple and Hoist figures. Those two were the best thing to come out of earthrise.

That missile hitting cliffjumper part was hilarious 😂

I was looking forward to Arcee, and when I got her I realized I prefer my MMC reformatted/ocular max stuff.

Wow, THANK YOU for your HONESTY! I always had doubts n' suspicions about the earthrise line and now I know - and knowing is half the battle! :D

I don't think Earthrise in its entirety is meh, in fact I still think it's really good, it's just easily the weakest out of the 3, but siege and kingdom have been some of the best toylines in Transformers history. I honestly think if it had more of a chance with distribution and quality control, this line would be almost as good as the others, because a lot of the best and coolest figures were exclusives or had bad QC issues, and if those were fixed then really the only weak figures would be a slightly worse version of the best megatron, the alliconz and quintessons, which are harmless and weird figures, and Arcee, which at least has a good robot mode even if it's not that good overall.

Ok, that bit with CliffJumper getting hit by DoubleDealer’s rocket made me laugh. That was pretty funny. Also, great video and I really enjoyed the week of Big BOIS.

The only ones I'm 100% keen on getting are Wheeljack, maybe Sunstreaker, Cliffjumper because he'll be a just decent substitute. I have Megatron, and though I hate the back panel that partsforms just to fill out the back and don't care for using the turret in robot mode, I think he's decent. And I think he looks great in a gun mode. But that is because it is a retool of Siege, which I'm getting.

I think a lot of people think of Cliff as a straight copy of bee.

I really like the earthrise Optimus prime cause for so long I've been looking for a g1 accurate Optimus that I didn't need to sell my kidneys for and this was practically perfect except for part of the back wheel assembly being bent straight out of the box and the trailer is great for storing weapons I stored so many weapons in it I called it the weapon storage trailer cause I stored weapons from g1 to AOE

Astrotrain IS a Siege figure. He was released in the tail end of Siege and got rereleased in Earthrise.

When it comes to earthrise, if you want the best figure in the line, you’ve gotta learn to love some niche designs, completely unknown characters, and prime.

Honestly, even if the ER Wheeljack is not perfect, I still want it.

It was a mixed bag imo. Had some that I loved/liked in DD, Lynx, Sunny, Cliff, Grapple, Hoistbreaker, and OP. But there were also some really terrible ones that either didn't need to exist, like Astrotrain and Megatron, or were shamelessly awful: Allicon, Arcee, and the Seekers. Also there was that filmy grey zone that was neither bad or good, with Wheeljack, Snapdragon, all the Modulators, and some others that I probably forgot existed...

I found your channel from the siege and earthrise toyline videos and im happy i checked out more of your stuff!

For a second, thought it was a re-upload.

Enjoyed the retrospective. On my copy of Sky Lynx to fix his QC's, I put some primer and gunmetal paint on the stubby base mode tabs to better keep it locked together, also helps keep his shuttle butt tabbed in. I've joined those that swear by it, and put some of the pledge floor polish on the wings, not directly on the mushroom peg, but where the wing and joint slide against each other for added friction, without stressing the peg. Much sturdier now than dry spaghetti noodle. And funny enough, his box art does show his mouth unhinged.

Another Cliffjumper death. Perspective End’s Cliff abuse will never disappoint me.

Hoist brings back some memories. He was the first EVER full-sized G1 Transformer I bought when I was a kid. Technically, my Very First Transformer figure was Huffer. The only other thing like them I could afford were Gobots!

I can accept that some figures weren't good, but figures like ER prime and bumblebee were near perfect

We completely agree on Runamuck. It and Runabout may be the best Earthrise figures.

My main takeaway from this video is Just buy kingdom stuff lol

Thanks for that tip about combining the hammer dude with Soundwave's gun! Now it truly looks great!

Most people: watch perspectiveend for the quality content Me: more cliffjumper abuse

front of truck and back of truck with canon are the heros we never asked for,but needed

Grapple is probably my favourite in the line

Because their new jacks and have no idea about G1 .....because they where not born YET!

All the dislikes on this are just Earthrise Figures and their alts.

Hey, I just discovered your channel and while I may not agree with a lot of what you say, I admire that you say what you think. A lot of reviewers backtrack or go with the common opinion but you don't, and I admire that.

So 7 months in, I'm starting to fall under the spell of the design of Smokescreen/Barricade mold, and, with no hope of an evergreen-based Generations Barricade figure, I'm gravitating towards the Earthrise one. Except, of course, the issue of the plastic in general, especially the clear legs and KNEES. That still worries me like hellllllll. I know the Siege is sturdier, and has better colors, but I just can't shake the preference of that design out of my mind. And if I was gonna get only one of the ER Datsuns, it would be Barricade. Plus, I'm sitting on a good deal for the set for $32, though I still want to sell off P/CP to someone else. Really torn here, though leaning towards set on getting said set. What do you think?

I will agree with the fact that siege prime has way better kibble because although it has more of it, it feels a lot better managed, like I'd rather take a nice jetpack that doesn't intrude on any articulation and flip out arm guns than some clumsy wheels on the back that not only break up the silhouette, but hugely hampers articulation and doesn't look like anything other than just kibble, not to mention the sacrifice in the robot mode's sculpt to get rid of as much kibble as possible is also a bit of a downgrade.

8:14 truly a wepon to surpass Metal Gear

Great vid man. I died at Arcee's appearance

Yeah, most of the figures is actually not that bad but the QC's issues make them bad. The plastic quality and the engineering is far when compared to the Siege toyline. I think the nostalgia that people have is so high that they didn't really mind the problem that those figures have. Anyway, great video.

lol I remember that episode. I also subscribed to you the day I saw it because your feelings towards Earthrise matched mine. Though my main complaint is that there are never enough Seige Ports. lol

The lazy eyebrow basically confirmed it to me that er starscream is the generations mold upscaled to voyager. When he showed on his review of the seeker mold, there is a metal pin on starscream’s back that was supposed to act as a butt flap, but the plastic was already molded in with the rest of the body. Hasbro couldnt even be bothered to add that to the figure.

FINALLY! Someone who shares my point of view on this series. I didn't feel like I could trust any of the toy reviewers on their opinions on Earthrise because they were so biased on how good the figures looked, they wouldn't address any of the QC or parts-forming issues they had! To put it in perspective, before I got Wheeljack, I was watching numerous reviews on the figure and I remember Prime Vs Prime saying it was one of the most solid figures he had gotten from the first wave. Then I got the figure and he felt so light and cheap!. Shortly after, I got Siege Sideswipe and after thinking he might disappoint me the same way, he was actually incredibly solid and looked amazing! Since then, I have declared Siege my favorite TF Toyline because most of the figures I have collected from it have been significantly more solid than my Earthrise Wheeljack and they still look just as good.

Is the small tank and poo car a dr. Lockdown reference?

i love how this video's thumbnail is the same thumbnail of the other vid but with a new backround

If Blurr was in Kingdom, you would be a Perfect voice for him

It took me this long to realise that it's a plane crashing in the thumbnail.

I’m just curious what’s going to happen when the Trilogy ends Also good video as always

Now this, this is the overall review I had wanted ever since that original one. A fix and something which is actually agreeable. No more needless whining, no more overly angry ranting and no more not pointing out the positives and being just negative. Thank you, you've earned yourself a sub and I'm now fully on board your train And while I do still like some of your least favourites from this line, such as the cliffjumper, I still respect and understand your point. Well done and I hope to see more of your reviews soon

9:36 I just about fucking lost it

Honestly, I love the cliffjumper mold. I have the netflix Bumblebee and I find posing and transforming it quite enjoyable. I also don't really mind the parts-forming back as the "shield" mode I think looks pretty good on it.

Do you ever get tired of crying?? Or is that like your favorite hobby??

would you be interested in doing a full review of ER Starscream one day? I know you outlined your main points on why it sucks, but I’d like to hear your full thoughts on it

Well it's an ok line they had some perfect figures ( fight me) but some of them sucked ( arcee elita etc) Edit: there goes another cliffjumper death again😂 Edit 2: IT BROKE THAT CLIFFJUMPER HATES YOU! Edit 3: if you had a po box I would send you another one because I'm evil

Earthrise is like the middle child of the WFC trilogy, which makes sense in more ways than one. Still can’t get Runamuck anywhere though

I really wanted to love that Sunstreaker mold, but every instance of it I experienced was a struggle to transform because of the windscreen not wanting to tab in, and the fact his knees clip in when he's in vehicle mode resulted in me getting stress marks on every single version of that mold's knee hinges. I wanted to love that mold, especially the Diaclone recolors, but consistently I had a horrible time trying to transform him and it just depressed me to no end considering how much I liked it upon first viewing.

Are you going to make a perspective on the kingdom toy-line and how you feel about it

Concerning the Sky Lynx halves connecting, have you snapped it it? There should be a click sound from the back tab. I had a similar issue with before figuring it out.

on the other hand i DESPISE sunstreaker, kinda like wheeljack, sunstreaker was supposed to be sleek by g1 standars, not an square, , and that could have been fixed if the legs and chest were not so wide, thats it, skylyn looks good but i really dont have a single problem with the combiner wars version, so, i dont know, i mean, earthrise skylynx IS great and is probably worth its price(unlike certain commander from kingdom) but im ok with the voyager cw, even if it is tiny for the character also, trialbreaker's panels should have had at least a hinge in the middle to fold them

I think the main reason as to why ppl say "its g1" is because of the marketing and the fact that "its the first time we get G1 again after a while"

Fun fact: earthrise had more exclusives then regular releases

That bit with Arcee killed me.

Im very forgiving on ER because of 2020 and every factory over seas was going through what everyone else was. Sunstreaker isnt a retool of Wheeljack. They just share engineering. And yes i know how that shounds but every piece of him is a new sculpt. I love that Prime because of the butt tires but then again im a huge Studio Ox fan. I agree that the battle masters were very much a "miss" in this line and a think a lot of it could have been fixed with just a simple knee joint. And yeah my Cliffjumper upgrade kit didnt last long either. I think everyone saying the line is G1 is because thats what people have wanted for so long and ER looks enough to it plus the line does have G1 "upgrades" in it such as Grapple and Hoist.

Earthrise Cliffs torture will never end and that's a good thing

Arcee being a shell-former isn't her main issue. Her main issue is that she's a pain to try and transform (granted I have Netflix SIEGE Elita-1, but it's the same figure with a different head).

So hey update again lmao Just got a new Smokescreen and this time the arms didn’t fall off so at least o finally have a decent Smokescreen other then the CW one

Covid hit Arizona so bad that we only got wave 1 sunstreaker trailbreaker and runabout

on my country i can only find the first wave of Earthrise, thanks Hasbro

I bought Earthrise Figures that were said to be GOOD... I'm still mad about Cliffjumper, Netflix Bee, Ratchet, Ironhide and even Arcee having partsforming

I know cliffjumpers not g1 accurate and he does some partsforming, but i dont really mind it. Is what i wouldve said if the peg the backpack uses to connect to the figure didnt rub off. And now whenever i touch him it falls off. The Netflix bumblebee fixed this issue wich is great, and the "shield" actually kinda works for his character, considering he was more of the kid appeal character in g1, and less of a fighter.

Me personally I don't care for G1 cartoon accuracy it's just if it looks like the character it's the character and for people to say it's the most superior G1 toyline well...the figures have crap tons of quality control issues like which was pointed out in the Lazy Eyebrow's video on Earthrise like the figures suffer from breakages a lot more than usual, like back in the day early Generations figures were more sturdy and tough in clear plastic and plastic itself but these new ones which I have from Earthrise like Optimus Prime, Netflix Bumblebee, Runamuck and Starscream, they don't feel right like they feel off entirely and they are very prone to stress marks, for example Generations 2010 Wheeljack and Red Alert who were strong in plastic its so odd.

The arcee bit killed me 💀

To be honest, there are some parts of the line that I do like. I did like Cliffjumper, but the price and the fact that he's partsforms put me off. I kinda liked Arcee when I first saw her, that was until I saw her hoverboard looking thing and vehicle mode. The base transformers are okay, I kinda wish they did more though for more playability options. I found it weird at how they included figures like Snapdragon, which could or should have been in Titans Return into this line, which is kinda cool I suppose.

I actually really like the ER Starscream, so much so that I bought every single redeco/retool of it (Except Ramjet and Dirge, I'm not paying $300 for 2 voyagers), but I do agree that the transformation can be pretty annoying at times.

4:18 actually siege Optimus has that as well it just blends it so well that it looks seamless

Personally i like the earthrise mold G2 ramjet and sandstorm… decent figures with no real qc Starscream (or ss86 starscream) FFS i have the wing qc problems Thundercracker and skywarp - YAY NO QC ISSUES

I have a question. How come you hammer ER Prime and (somewhat) Siege/ER Astrotrain for not being worth leader price when Siege Shockwave does the exact same thing?

I saw the final wave of deluxes ONE time in Canada, glad I got them when I had a chance. But my daughter loves them so I over look many of the flaws.

Hey what was that wheeljack upgrade kit? Or like where can I find one?? I love the blue and the complete arc of the windshield on his chest

Funny how I got an ad about Tinnitus after the Cliffjumper explosion.

Cliffjumper is not g1 and thats why i love it. I am a big fan of shields and yes, the parts forming is a big problem to many people. But i am happy you can at least store it on its back. My biggest problem is that the bazooka pegs should have been on tilting joint with a pin in them so one peg can be angled to be held like how a bazooka should be held with the elbow bending to do so and the other peg folds along the shaft so it doesnt have this awkward peg just hanging out. The end piece of the bazooka i wish had some sort of use too

Here are my issues with earthrise. 1. Too many exclusives that were either cancelled due to lack of product or scalpers buying up all the stock and selling triple the price. 2. Grapple , nuff said lol 3. Hoist and trailbreaker back arm kibble and it's just weird. 4. Megatron. It's terrible. 5. Ratchet and ironhide. Didn't need them again 6. Seekers, upscaled classic molds with no change in engineering. They should have just retooled the seige seekers.

I agree with the comment below mine, perspective, do you think I should get my brother double dealer for his birthday? I’d love to see a review for him.

Siege made me have really high expectations for Earthrise and the show but all we got was High prices and half priced figures and a show that literally has nothing to do with earth unless you call the Ark crashing on earth at the last 2 minutes of the show related

I must be the luckiest man on earth because none of the parts on any Earthrise figure that I own have broken off.