They always killed of good characters, they got cheap quick viewer spikes out of doing it. Steve Owen was another that shouldn't have been killed off either but they did it in such a cop out way as well.
@@soundcreeps5371 - Billy was the subject of child abuse himself, it was later revealed, puts into context that many who are abused go on to abuse others too.
Quality video mate been waiting for a Jamie vs the square for a while now glad you put this together sad he died could've been a gold character in later years
Thanks mate. I completely agree, I feel like they were taking Jay down a similar route as Jamie a few years ago but they've kind of wasted him. I think Keanu's becoming a similar sort of character now though.
Yh agree, Jay has changed alot since then definitely not got that hot headed mentality now, they needed to have upcoming people similar to Phil's status to keep the show interesting killing Jamie and changing jays character probably wearn't the wisest choices I like Keanu but again I don't think he's got that personality to be face of the square
Just as Billy softened, Phil turned hard.(2000) I remember Billy’s 50th birthday when drunken Phil made a speech “50 years of failure”, lol! Billy was the 2000s answer to Norman Wisdom!
I felt sorry for jamies character bk then he always got picked on but he found away to find the courage to stick up for himself against billy etc shame his character died
Why did they kill Jamie off? He could have been a more of a interesting character for the future. Trying to learn the hard ways and getting harder and harder as he gets older
To be fair, Phil smacked Ben once because he caught him torturing his little sister with a boiling hot spoon. I think Ben got off lightly. He should never have hurt Jamie though.
The thing is no matter much Billy is portrayed as this decent guy he still hasn't redeemed himself for his neglect of Jamie, it would be nice to see him go yo Jamies graveside and be remorseful.
Good character , good acting from Jack Ryder. Underated, shouldn't have killed him off. Billy was an arse , people forget that , and then we're sorry for him when he gets loads of stick later from the Mitchell's!
Billy lost his bottle given he’s a dad now but still back in the day proper little Mitchell. It be nice to see how Jamie would have grown up and the rest of the square develops
Ikr! I remember when Phil and Dennis were winding each other up in the Arches and when Dennis brought up Joanne, Phil went "An old dog like her must've suited you" 😂
Why do they get rid of all the best characters? I know some get real big and famous fast, and start acting like Hollywood stars, but if they didn't kill them off, all they had to do was wait a few years till they realise they were nothing without EE, they could get them to come back.
Mark would of beat the crap out of Jamie, Jamie was quite tough for his age but mark was still just a kid, mark never lost a fight on the show except to Phil
@@stemple11100 He was barely able to move Jamie away from Steve, Steve being someone Jamie sent flying with a punch, and you forget Mark had a bit of trouble with Martin. Steve Owen also went toe-to-toe with a Phil in his near-prime and did pretty damn good... as far as their first fight goes anyway. Let's get this out of the way, Jamie was always way, WAY tougher and harder then every other dude his age on the square, whether we're talking Robbie, Martin, Ashley, he was tougher then ALL of them. You forget Jamie grappled with Dan Sullivan, or when it took Mark along with two others just to MOVE Jamie. Mark got injured just trying to move Beppe away from Jack Robbins, also thats not true, Mark lost to Nick twice and backed down to him after Nick pushed him down. Also when Jamie was pissed at Steve Owen, he was trying to hold Jamie back and Jamie pushed him away like he was nothing. Also, the part about Mark never losing is false, he got into a fight with some drunk and got his ass kicked, he's hard but imo he's not one of the hardest. I have him barely above Max Branning who I think Jamie would win against.
@@Darskul Mark did beat Billy easier than Jamie did and did manage to hurt Phil which Jamie never did. Yes was the toughest in his age group for sure but I think Mark would beat him. PS Nick also beat Mark a few times.
I would love to have had Jamie back now ....returning the same time as billy's dad who Billy will not forgive ..but sadly they killed Jamie off ...Jamie could now be putting Billy through it,not forgiving him ,the same as what Billy is doing now to his dad . storyline missed there .
If Martin is as hard as he is now after all those years can you imagine how hard Jamie would be? Bet you any amount of money he'd be Jack-level at this point. Also, who is older, Ronnie or Jamie?
Cool addition to your name mate! It's interesting because I've thought that myself. It's hard to tell, judging by Jack Ryder he doesn't look that much harder than he did before, and some characters peak quite young I.e. Jay. I reckon Martin would be tougher now but it could be close. Which Ronnie mate? Or do you mean Robbie?
@@H.K.5 If Jamie was still around and was consistent as a hardman (aka still the toughest out of his generation) do you think he'd be Sean Slater-level?
As soon as he started getting chubby and finished puberty he lost all his looks. People only fancied him when he had the jaw and smooth face. He gets a double chin towards the end of this (around when he rescues Peggy from mugging) and you see he isn't a good looking guy at all, bet that's why they wrote him out since he was no longer a heart throb.