The look on Gavin's face when he heard that loud music playing in Shirley's flat for the first time lol. Absolutely priceless. Glad that prick got his comeuppance and it finally sent him packing. Serves him right,
Shame Phil and Grant were not around ' they 'd send the likes of Gavin packing no sweat ' single or together ' even Dennis or an aging Den would sort him with ease
I remember this storyline. The brilliant thing about this was how realistic it was because this type of topic is what goes on in all of ours communities.
What a vile man he was, the volume he was playing his music at don’t think it’s humanely possible too listen too at that volume, felt sorry for Shirley at the time
I remember this storyline, I can’t believe it’s nearly 20 years ago, I was only 19 and half years old nearly 20 years old and the same year I started my first job till nearly two years ago due to Pandemic.
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Yeah environmental health, landlord not even noticing anything from it, I don't think she ever got a response from them after he noted down how loud his music was
I liked the Shirley/Gavin stuff. It was positively-different and every era has dodgy storylines anyway. I don’t know why this, kidneygate/the Ferreiras and the funfair disaster (which actually conferred a lot of on-screen gold, like Lynne’s miscarriage) from 2003/04 were so berated until quite recently. Other than kidneygate (which had to be hastily-rewritten for obvious reasons) none of it was that weird.
@@Anonymous_Anon882 - I didn't dislike the Shirley/Gavin thing, just thought it was a bit strange. Other than that though, I do agree the Louise Berridge era (I think I have her name right) has always been unfairly maligned. I liked her stuff, especially Den's set-up and return. It was terrible the way she has been treated.
@@naparry4772 no, it was just a little strange (no doubting) but just like you I didn’t dislike it. And Berridge (and, yh, you did get the name right, dw) was definitely unfairly-maligned but I feel like ever since she did that Walford Web interview and the general public’s began to realise the extent of the backstage problems she faced during that period and unlike certain producers (Santer for one, who always had an annoying streak of arrogance about him for all the good he did do) she’s never been any less than humble and willing to take full ownership of things that weren’t her fault and weren’t even anything to do with her. 2003 was fine and in fact the first half of 2004 (everything up to and including Janine’s arrest, minus the Ferreiras and the Zoe/Kelly-whoever tripe) was quite good. There were some bad individual episodes and outliers but it was mostly good stuff and up until that point Zoe hadn’t been roped into the Shannis love affair, which is how the story should’ve stayed throughout that year (with more emphasis on how shooting Dalton affected Dennis deep down). Ditto for the Fowlers and coming to terms with Mark’s death fully on-screen and not having Martin being stalked by Sarah (although I enjoyed the last few episodes of it). It wouldn’t have killed for Pat. to have remained more honed-in on Ian after the Laura/Janine fallout (which she was earlier in 2004) rather than what Andy Hunter was getting up to (I didn’t mind their antagonistic/morally-opposed alliance but that shouldn’t really have been her focus after what she did to Janine that year and she was better-off friends with Dennis anyway). You can tell St Clements didn’t enjoy riding on the Andy merry-go-roundabout and the impression was always there that she would’ve rather been giving obligatory counsel to Dennis and Ian. Andy was always best left to Johnny and Sam. and them. Not an older lady with much higher morals who wouldn’t have realistically played any more than a very peripheral part in the gang-world after her ’80s post-prostitution reform and ultimately for the greater good. But it did get very good again during Hutchinson’s semi-quarter of the year, ironically from the moment Stacey made her chavvy teenage debut (which in any case is probably quite obvious, because the last two months of 2004 were good, esp. Paul Trueman’s death, Marcusgate and Jean’s fantastic/brilliantly-cold first appearance) in the midst of all the backstage chaos. It was just the middle with all that Ferreira kidney nonsense, Andy, Kat and Alfie going back-and-forth and Den. going A.W.O.L. for six months after that webcam wank-off incident. I’d still take it over the past decade-and-a-bit (other than maybe 2014 from a more objective lens, and even then that wouldn’t be my preference) any day of the week.
@@Anonymous_Anon882 - thanks for the reply. Your EastEnders memories are sharper than mine! I found the quality slipped once Berridge left if I'm honest (I was unhappy when the Ferrieras left and their critics 'won'), but there have been a few highs. The 'recent' Willmott Brown story showed real promise. He was a great villain. But then - wallop - another new producer came along and this carefully built up story was brought to an anti climax in a couple of episodes. I think EastEnders have shown a talent for shooting themselves in the foot on more than one occasion!
@@naparry4772 I think Berridge was one of those old-skool producers who knew the show inside-out and was really more a victim of bad luck than anything else. Incompetent she certainly wasn’t. I know we’ll (as a conglomerate - her dodgy outliers have never bothered me) never forget cardboard funfair, Ronny Ferreira and the condom caper episode for all the wrong reasons but on balance there’s more I enjoyed from her era than I didn’t and it was still very much a show in its golden prime. The Murdoch press just happened to have it out for EastEnders during most of 2004 and a lot of people bought into it, which taints a lot of people’s memories of the era as a whole for what it actually was. Wilmott Brown did have the potential to be a good storyline (I liked Fiona’s part in it as well) but they called time on it before it got anywhere hot. The fact that it all happened in 2017/early 2018 (probably the show’s ultimate nadir) when hardly anyone could be arsed to watch doesn’t help its popularity either. Agreed on the Ferreiras as well. They didn’t come across as the best family on-screen (and it’s fair to say that the Masoods were a better Asian familial equivalent) but I didn’t think the actors themselves were too bad, nor was the father. The real kick in the foot was the fact that the original story plan (the children killing and burying their father) had to be cancelled at the last minute and replaced with the kidney nonsense (that story really was diabolical) but that was well beyond Berridge’s control. The fact that the actor got deported back to India in the middle of filming had nothing to do with anyone other than the guy playing him. He should’ve made sure he had a sound work permit bud he didn’t and the family suffered as a result. But even in the midst of that mess they were nowhere near as bad as Tyler and Anthony (the Moon-brother extensions) or some of the other horrible families who have come and gone over the years. It was all very over-exaggerated by the press and really you only believe them when they say things like that at your own peril/risk.
Completely forgot about shirley and gavin, 2 poorly recieved short lived characters during the poor 2003-05 era. Never forgot the ferriaras mind for all the wrong reasons
I don't remember this entire storyline at all, but for years my brother and I remembered this woman calling for her cat called Boots and finding them in a binbag and we used to take the piss out of the whole thing. Seeing it in context made me realise, god this was a shite time for storylines.
On the contrary, I felt it made a refreshing change from the usual samey, brain dead episodes of the yobbo Mitchell brothers simply beating someone up again - what is the point of that? You've seen that all before to the point that you might as well rewind a previous storyline and just replay it. Good to focus on different characters with different backgrounds and with different ways of doing things. It amazes me how so many people are seduced by the Mitchells, I found them boring after a while. There's only so many people on the square you can beat up before it just becomes silly.
@@simonpitt8145 Agreed. I would much rather take these realistic stroylines over the same old trash they churn out today. I stopped watching telly a long time ago.
These 2 were so depressing to watch in 2003 , I won’t say they singlehandedly ruined the year but they were a part of why Eastenders was so bad that year.. why the writers thought anybody would be interested in these day new basically extras idk but of course there has been much worse years since.
2003 was a good year (and 2002 wasn’t even that much better). Some inconsistencies in storytelling might’ve began to creep in (along with a few dodgy storylines) but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t still fairly enjoyable and well-crafted. When I think of 2003 I think of Dennis Rickman, The Firm/Dalton, Den’s resurrection, Paul/Janine/Barry and Phil/Lisa/Kate more thanks dodgy outliers like the Ferreiras (who actually weren’t that bad in their first year), Zoe/Kelly (or whoever that lesbian Zoe kissed was) and Shirley and Gavin. With most years you’ve just got to take the good with the bad but really I have a major soft spot for Berridge so I’d even take the bad stuff over anything from the past ten years at least any day of the week.
@@tomhiggins6542 Little Mo’s second rape was actually 2003 (albeit the tail-end of it) but I agree that 2004 on the whole wasn’t great but even that EastEnders was infinitely better than anything we’ve had in the past decade.
@@Onmysheet it's not really said if he did kill the cat or not but he did enjoy tormenting Shirley by leaving boots on the front step so it's probably likely he did
@@k_who-7706 I remember in the same episode were Andy Hunter spoke to somebody along with the line "Skinning a cat". He was probably speaking metaphorcally but it can't be a coincidence.
Even during the worst months of 2004 they were still average 10/11 million an episode (other than when they went head-to-head with Emmerdale but those one-offs were far from the norm). And 2003 was actually a particularly well-rated year (more than the former). There’s a lot of very inaccurate mythology about this part of the Berridge era that needs to be tee-d out.
😂So Sad To kill a kid even if it was a joke I didn’t ignore. It was not a joke she loved her cat just like you would love your dog. I love my dog, but he have to do that so he got what he deserved my number one show East Ender and I live in United States of America and I was the show all the time he said come on television doesn’t come on anymore on television so I watch it on my apple tablet and I love the old shows just like I love the new episode people are there in the good work My Name is Setra Obondi ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉
I don't get it Shirley hated loud music but played it herself not such an innocent victim i dont think gavin was that bad yes he played loud music but shirley didnt exactly treat him well
@@stuartwinter8900 there was many reasons behind that mate, plus not long before that he called her a mad old cow, throwing threats at her, not to mention the music on full volume deliberately, plus he also put prostitution stickers all over the square with her number on them, she was getting some creeps calling her up
He was a bully simple fact aha when he faked he saw a rat on the street and called pest control and made em run around everywhere but when achully had one put in his flat his reaction to that was priceless 😂 served him right for being bully not mention thoes racist remarks
Like I wuddof stomped on his mutt or puppy if he's had One!! 😂 mutant stinking mutts always deserve to be exterminated! Includn their rotten owners n all! #IHateDogs
