If Nick could choose between meeting the love of his life, having $100million in his bank, or a workout with Jay Cutler... which body part would he train?
Lmao I can see it now “Fouad you’re so dumb. If you don’t think the steel is heavier how bout you go drop a kilo of steel on your foot right now and I’ll drop a kilo of feathers on my foot and we’ll see who screams the loadest. Go ahead stupid, let’s see it.“
Fouad - Nick are you there, you look paralysed 😂😂 I don’t buy it, too many factors go into building muscle for me. For a study like this to be accurate everyone would need to be on a set diet, training program, same cycle, same rest and sleep times and external stress factors. I think there’s too many fundamentals of building muscle to isolate which is nearly impossible and the elephant in the room is all the studies are done on joe average natural athletes. Interesting tho 🤘🏻
The idea with the failure at various weights seems to be coincidence to what JP says in regard to training all rep ranges and getting strong in all. . .
Please do not hate me for my comment. Fouad did not exactly rephrase Brad´s Schoenfeld´s Studies, which might have caused confusion. Brad never wrote anything about 100 reps in a set. 35 reps at max. Limiting factor would be lactic acid. His studies however in my opinion have debunked the myth that there are "optimal" rep ranges, which is in fact individual, even different from bodypart to bodypart. Recommending someone to always have 8-12 reps for all bodyparts is in fact questionable. Trying different intervalls (6 reps, 10 reps and 20 reps) in a set and observing the results might be the way to go. @Jamie you are right. But Brad has always pointed out the same thing 😉. As a fan of JP I really love to see that there are also different rep ranges between the working set and the backoff set in the programs I know from JP. So fundamentally these studies are practically implemented already, even if there was a different intention before. Love both your contents. Greets from Germany ✌
@@MP-mz7un ah appreciate that man, I thought the same tbh that we were already putting this into practice in the sense we fail at different rep ranges, I agree fully that failure is failure but weight must be enough to stimulate the mechanical tension part enough for the muscle to fail before the lactic acid get's you like you touch on there :)
After running a gym for the last 5 yrs, it's my opinion that no one system is better than the other. The 2 most jacked members I have train completely different. One is in there for 3 to 4 hours as he is a day trader and it's his social time...its his Cheers. He rarely lifts heavy and does a shit ton of volume. The other is a hard working, union plumber who is in and out in 45 or less every time, training with low volume to failure. To make things more contradictory, the dude training to failure with heavy ass weight is the one with the round, round muscle and flowing physique while the dude doing all the pump work has the rugged, Branch Warren type build. Genetics trump all I guess.
Great one Fouad, please get Mike Isreatel in with these guys for a podcast, he would explain hypertrophy, training, diet question in the best/easier way possible(He's a phd as well in sports physiology)Layne Norton ish quality of smart.
Relating to training light vs heavy - Me at 50 years old and doing lighter weight for more reps to failure, have gained more muscle than heavier weight/low reps. I don't have near the base muscle of a bodybuilder (I'm 6 ft/205 lbs/10% bf), so a bodybuilder may respond differently. But I'm enjoying the ride of slow and steady gains without any injuries. This channel is great, keep it up Fouad!
24:48 I think we've got to respect what Guy is saying here and remember that this high volume research has come out over the last decade. 1) Prior to this last decade this was not the way things were presented. Certainly was not the focus when I began in 2000. 2) Many researchers Fisher, Steele etc disagree with him Before all the nuthuggers jump in all I'm calling for is a bit of perspective
Guy travels the world more than any other bodybuilder except Jay and Kai. And when he gets to the front desk of each hotel, he let's them know that... then shows them his big boy underwear 😆 And regarding the 20k calorie challenge, Fouad will fly over to Guy's house, eat Guy, and say there's my last 10,000 calories. Then he'll burp up some small sized underwear 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was feeling super fkn shitty....this bro chat cheered me up...and I even went to the gym....and listened to this while working out...thank you guys!!💪🏼🐷💯
Actually George Leeman made a point in high rep sets till failure . Actually high reps you have a better chance of actually going till failure for instance If you bench 25 reps and your failure is 26 reps that’s a 96% going right till failure If you bench 6 reps and failure is 7 that’s only 85% failure . 1 rep shy of failure of a higher rep scene is going to equate to an overall higher% of failure . Its like this is rating someone out of 100 more accurate then rating someone out of 10 .If that makes sense
This podcast has motivated me so much to stay on track for my goal of going pro. It's hard not having any bodybuilding friends. This podcast helps a lot
Haha. You guys rule. Love this podcast. The older you get, the more recovery you need. That's when you grow. "Supplements" or not. Get in, blast the muscle, get out. Dorian yates had it right I think. Just my opinion tho.
I enjoy the lower volume high intensity because it’s a mental thing when you only have one or two working sets, it forces you to really make them count and I feel like it is more adaptable to progressive overload without a crazy surplus of calories
Hey Fouad. The stuff you mention about being mentally crazy and being emotional during training is exactly how I am. I am a 21 year old pursuing bodybuilding working my way up classes currently. Would you suggest I stop being this way to improve my physique and journey or is it ok to be a bit of a nut job and just go to war every time you train? It's always controlled movements but just before my set I'm thinking about the craziest stuff I actually shed tears sometimes before my heavy top sets but it's like anger. Just wanna know you opinion as you've shared something similar. I live my life with this aggression and just wanna know if I should stop even though I probably cant lol
The chemistry and banter between the 3 of you is fantastic. 2hrs plus feels like 20 minutes. Makes cardio that little bit more enjoyable. I look forward to every episode to see nicks body grow and head shrink 😅.
"if he dies he dies" had me rolling. These are honestly the best podcasts of the ones you do! The others are still good of course! edit: peakey blinders is one of my favs
regarding the first question. no not the same type of hypertrophy. the science of that question is pretty simple. there is a difference between exhausting the muscle from its energy stores and overloading the muscle to failure. when doing heavy weight you are utilizing more muscle fibers. if you do 50lbs shoulder press you aren't using all of your recourses. (muscle) because it's not needed. when you do 100lbs dumbbells you have more activation.
Doing both (higher reps/lower reps) activates more muscle fibers because you’re activating the 2 types (fast twitch and slow twitch). That’s what Dr Schoenfeld was referring to. You do more activation by mixing it up. Higher reps doesn’t mean you have to hit 100 reps but the work is getting done in similar fashion (higher/lower reps) as you get closer to muscle failure. 15/20 reps is probably more than enough to activate the slow twitch muscle fibers.
he actually never said to do 100 or 80 or 50 reps,failure is failure as long as its musculature failure.50-100 reps is aerobic activity,thats not muscle failure.what he says(and every study as well)within anaerob range the reps number doesnt matter,10 or 15 or 20reps he was talking about.apart of this,great show as usual!
Fouad i have been ur fan since early 2005 , saw ur pics on facebook back when magazines were a trend .... all da respect for being soo humble and kool 🙏🏼
I think the main conclusion from Brads studies is that the debate on if you build more muscle doing 6 reps or 15 reps doesn’t matter. It’s obviously not practical to do 30 rep sets your entire career, and no one will likely take that approach. & determining rep ranges On movements should come down to if you can PROFICIENTLY train to failure without reaching cardiovascular fatigue first, judging when you’re actually in proximity to failure, and the safety of the movement
20k calorie challange suggestion for you guys All eat the same diet based on each of you selecting your choice of selected go to foods. Random order like a fantasy draft order of selecting foods but all have to agree once you select a food it sticks and all have to eat the entire list of foods. Estimate each choice and cap at 20k.
Amazing podcast as always! Just you guys arguing so much about training for high reps or heavy and low reps. If you will do 30reps with lighter weight and bounce on your knees that will hurt your joins the same as heavy.. it's not the reps most important but the mechanical tention on muscle try to do lighter weight but for 3-4 seconds down 1 sec pause 1 sec concentric and do as many reps as possible if you can extent your set from usual 30-40sec to 60s and over that will definitely make more muscle damage even with lighter weight. Would be great to do listen podcast with Ben Pakulski! 👍👍
With the weight and volume resulting in equal gainz, I reckon it's true because powerlifters tend to do higher weight lower reps and theyre often smaller than body builders who do lower weight higher reps
Awesome podcast as usual! The failure argument is interesting but seems to ignore the time variable (how long the set took) which is an input to the calculation of work. Also seems like saying the two are equal would go against Patrick Tuor's density concept.
The problem with doing much higher reps to failure is you'll probably reach cardiovascular failure before muscular failure. Especially on bigger compound movements like squats. So the mechanical tension on the muscle would be less = less growth.
After 25 years of training i gained 60 kg with Dorian yates training ! I totaly changed my training and trained with much lighter wheights and doing 7 sets and 3 exercices per body part and very light wheight i went up from 101 kg to 108 kg very easy and did huge improvements in 2 months ! Failure is failure for sure you have to made a progressif overload in terms of wheight, tempo of reps etc .....
I can’t agree with lighter weight for more reps causes just as much muscle to be built tbh. I’ve tried it myself with time under tension training for nearly 2 years, then when I switched to heavier all out working sets gains have been so much greater! Also, Fouad you kind of contradicted yourself as you said you don’t need to get any bigger so you’re trying this style of training, which basically says it won’t build any more tissue? I totally agree with you that it will be a ‘safer’ or ‘healthier’ option for joint preservation as you’re getting older but not for gaining...& that’s my 2 cents!lol
Who would gain more muscle: Guy A: starts with 150lbs for 20 reps. Guy B starts with 200 for 10 reps. Both double the weight for the same reps so A finishes at 300 for 20 reps and B finishes at 400 for 10. Both double the weight they used for the reps range.......................................I personally have no idea other than I know both got bigger lol
QUESTION: Regarding Training Hard vs. Light convo: Maybe I'm thinking of basic Grade 11 Biology class., BUT wouldn't your muscle failure be influence by two different things? HEAVY: Failure influenced by the load on your nervous system, and more adaption would be improved bone density, improved muscle fiber recruitment, potential HGH product (if Natural). LIGHT: Failure influenced by building up metabolic waste and muscle cells not being able to keep up with energy (ATP)production, running out of oxygen, building lactic acid. The adaption would be more increase anaerobic capacity, your cells would upregulate to produce more mitocondria, more ATP enzymes, etc.
I'm commenting waaaay late on this but it's true doing higher reps, lighter weight to failure. I'm 5'7 280lbs 12%bf. I'm not competing now and I do it. Example, I've done side laterals with 60's for 8-10 reps 3-4 sets. Now I do 25's for 30 reps 3-4 sets. I'm seeing more results and I almost cannot lift my arms. Failure is failure and it varies person to person. I'm also an Army Abn Rngr Combat Vet and I was a Drill Sergeant. Doing PT pushing your body to failure is failure. It's a mind set that you must overcome. When competing and you've lifted heavy for so long you cannot grasp something that's sounds that ridiculous. BTW, there are pros that have always lifted lighter. My Wifey loves the show. We actually talk about everything you talk about and Wifey loves anal! Train Hard Win Easy 💪 Michael "Haus" Fitzgerald
YESSSS MY MAN GUY HAHAHA PAIR OF THIEVES I THOUGHT IBWAS THE ONLY ONE HAHAHAHA guy pulls his pants down at the gym to check his legs and admires his pair of thieves trunks... the only company who makes an underwear version of classic posing trunks hahhahaha
The study your discussing is old old. This is Exactly what Arthur Jones and the idea behind almost every exercise equipment he built. He would do 1set to failure then move to the next muscle. Start off 4days a week then drop to once a week and still grow.
