Ebike Hill Climb Test - 4 Electric bikes. How much POWER is Needed?

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Ebike Hill Climb Test - How Many Watts to get up?
We took 4 ebikes up this steep hill to see how much power was needed. Including the 250w Eskute Wayfarer, 500w Ado A20F, 750w Engwe EP-2 Pro and 1000w Engwe Engine Pro.
So which is the best Electric bike for climbing hills?
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@chattybeean Год назад

This is literally the video anyone wants to see when buying an ebike. Bravo! I am willing to bet that you just saved a lot of time and money for a lot of people!

@e-VRC Год назад

Hopefully!

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Год назад

Yep, 250w is useless here in Bristol so we have to break the law to get an ebike that will actually get up the hills well enough.

@miniramptricks1986 10 месяцев назад

I've literally seen about 20 reviews on the engine pro about 5 took them up thick grassy mountains the other ones skipped up the hill on the video and the others didn't have hills in it so thanks for literally being the only one with some brains to do the only test anyone wanted to see

@e-VRC 10 месяцев назад

Glad it helped 👍

@Seafariireland Год назад

Best ever ebike review. More hill testing please!

@nospoon4799 Год назад

I live in a hilly area. I weigh 17 stone. I am big and heavy. Not overweight. I just built a 1000w hub motor bike. It copes well on most hills but it does not like the steep stuff with so much weight on it. I built my wife the same kit on her bike, she gets twice the range a higher top speed and better acceleration and never has any problems on hills.. She weighs around 7.5 stone. Literally I will have to run two batteries as a solution I think.

@MrJordanc14 Год назад

Finally the video I’m looking for! Cheers

@e-VRC Год назад

Glad it helped 👍

@ECO-xd6eh 5 месяцев назад

Thanks from Spain friend. There are very few days left to receive my Engine Pro. Before finding your video I have seen 20/25 others analyzing this beautiful ebike, but none with the useful information that you have shared in such a simple and fun way. Congratulations. Thank you very much, you have a beer paid for if you come here. 😉

@e-VRC 5 месяцев назад

Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed the video. Enjoy your engine pro when it comes!

@AC_Milan1899 Год назад

The ever increasing motor wattage is worrying. Seems only a matter of time before the Police start properly enforcing the law. I see ebikes going ridiculously fast, not long before the media jump on this and gives us problems

@e-VRC Год назад

I know what you mean. Before getting the engine pro I never really exceeded the speed of a semi pro cyclist but now 1000 pushes past that speed pretty easily and of course some people are riding around on 5000w plus bikes that are basically electric motorbikes weaving in and out of traffic.

@Free__Speech Год назад

250w is more dangerous as u are slower & more likely to catch fire on a hill. 250w is useless anyway as most people can output more than 250w

@uncrunch398 Год назад

Aside from trying the worst hill in my area, my 350w gets me up to 20mph quick enough. I haven't been near that hill since I got it. Not sure I will unless I'm just curious. I won't be pushing for more until I'm properly protected from falling off. There are ditch drains around here that look like a person could be washed down after easily knocked into the ditch by traffic or a sudden gust. Or hit the cement just right to end them even if they don't go in.

@beentheredonethat5908 Год назад

Those people will have to deal with their own consequences. Most people can't break 15 miles an hour and the level of bike is easiest enough to find out. People who drive electric motor cycles are supposed to have the bikes registered and insured. So let them deal with their own problems.

@bobikbobikowy5458 Год назад

To be honest there is so much illegal ebikes around the world that noone can fix it at that point. I think they should make every ebike street legal, because they are just weak scooters. But faster ones shouldnt be allowed to speed on bike paths.

@GlenB1963 Год назад

Nice test mate. Enjoyed watching.

@e-VRC Год назад

Thanks very much 👍

@georgecostanza2695 11 месяцев назад

It’s pretty common for 750W motors to list a 80Nm output… but that’s just the MOTOR’s nominal rating. Actual on road performance depends on the controller (18, 25, or 35amp), the battery (36, 48, or 52V), and potentially regional restrictions placed on the program settings.

@jjm380t8 Месяц назад

apparently the 500w motor sitting in my corner waiting to be installed is 80nm nominal, gotta wonder what the peak would be (whatever it scales at 750w peaks, controller allowing.)

@MerlinsMagic Год назад

Thank you from Australia. I loved the video

@stephendonkin5497 Год назад

Good review mate more of these comparisons

@Boogie.VanMan 8 месяцев назад

Top video...cleared up a LOT of grey area with manufacturers ´numbers´....I was under all kinds of wrong impressions and was thinking a 750w would be enuff...now I know one needs at least 1000w of power for an enjoyable real-world e-cycling experience...👍

@noureddinhariri2979 Год назад

really informative video, thanks a lot mate

@mallewk87 Год назад

Your videos really helped me a lot!! Thank you :-)

@e-VRC Год назад

No problem, happy shopping. All my reviews have a hill climb in now so the latest leaderboard is in the wau cyber video.

@andreiyd Год назад

I really had this question in mind between EP2 Pro and Engine Pro as I live on a steep hill and this video answered my question. I was almost buying the lower tier EP2-Pro just because of the 80 nm torque, it's great to see that it's not the case. Thanks!!!

@e-VRC Год назад

Glad it helped. Engwe can be a bit muddled with their specs.

@edmondbaffour3798 11 месяцев назад

the best comparison video ever

@nathannewman7337 Год назад

Best ebike youtube test. Hills is what its all about

@e-VRC Год назад

Thanks 👍

@JuCarlos-ex8ip Год назад

Señor great review very helpful very well explained

@wildbsc Год назад

Yep well done fella!

@caymanhilldesigns453 Год назад

Watching you drive on the wrong side of the road while meeting traffic freaked me out lmao :)

@e-VRC Год назад

😂😂

@terrydumas6183 Год назад

Thanks for information 👍

@neelimawadnare9184 Год назад

Thanks for making this vid...

@e-VRC Год назад

No problem!

@vibrationofmyfrequency 8 месяцев назад

Helpful 👍

@utubeape 10 месяцев назад

Brilliant teat. This video should be essential viewing for old and unfit people who think that an ebike will do most of the work for them. You also were not riding into a wind, carrying shopping on paniers etc. If the UK government seriously wants people out of their cars and onto bikes they will have to permit 1000w motors, they can't just expect people to buy high end mid drive bikes of many thousands.

@electricbikeretrovintage Год назад

Watch my comparaison between bafang 1000w mid drive and bafang 750w rear hub which outperform the mid drive.

@Iconsjunior 6 месяцев назад

Try the Deep Power 2000 Watts G20 Pro on that Hill.

@Mowgi Год назад

I'm tossing up between the EP-2 Pro & the Engine Pro and your videos are definitely playing a huge factor in my decision. Unfortunately, it feels like we have few options in Australia compared to the rest of the world.

@e-VRC Год назад

Both great bikes but Engine pro is definitely worth the extra money.

@Mowgi Год назад

@@e-VRC Oh trust me, I've been binging yours (and other's) videos on the bikes, and I've come to that conclusion too, especially for the rear suspension and the brakes. Thank you :)

@e-VRC Год назад

No problem. The brakes are really nice for sure. If you have lots of hills then the extra power is handy too. Depends what you'd do with the extra few hundred. If you'd just forget about it after a while then go for the engine.

@Mowgi Год назад

@@e-VRC Hills are definitely a big factor as well, I'm trying to improve my fitness, and the hills where I am can be very off-putting without any assistance. I am a little worried about the folding aspect, how strong is that clip that keeps it from coming undone? 😅😅

@e-VRC Год назад

@@Mowgi i think it's pretty strong. There's always the m20. Non folder and looks cool asf.

@alexjohnson2088 9 месяцев назад

I just bought a claud buttler haste electric bike and I live in bushbury. I will have to give Sandy Lane a try.

@e-VRC 9 месяцев назад

Nice, let me know how it does 👍

@Rorolap Год назад

Thank you 👍👍👍👍👍👍

@e-VRC Год назад

Thank you for watching 👍

@Brunosdad Год назад

According to ADO's website the new uprated A20F torque is 80Nm don't know if its a marketing ploy but that's double what the older one was, it would be interesting if it is as I have had the new version for two months now but on the same day it arrived I fractured my back so still not been on it yet, hopefully in another month I'll get to ride it, I'm really hoping it has a bit more torque than your A20F 😀

@e-VRC Год назад

Fingers crossed for you then and I hope you heal well. Then you can bring it to this hill 😂

@Rorolap Год назад

Good things test climbing with this climb road with futur bike Possible test with engwe c20 pro you have?

@felixalbion Год назад

Would like to see the Big Game Impala tested here.

@HitchHikersBlues 11 месяцев назад

Just got my engwe engine pro after a long wait. The bike is a hoot! I actually saw between 1200 and 1300 watts apearing on the screen at one stage. I have to figure out the modes and how they work properly.

@e-VRC 11 месяцев назад

Glad you're enjoying it 🤟🤟👍👍 yeah it's weird that there's so many modes. Then 5 pas levels in each. Handy though.

@HitchHikersBlues 11 месяцев назад

@@e-VRC cheers. Yeah e bikes are great fun and it's surprising just how much exercise you'll get. It's easy enough to cycle without the motor engaged also. I'm glad I bought the extra battery as a deal. All going well, it was worth the money. Reliability, only time will tell. I'm guessing sport mode is the most aggressive.

@jiriwesley1962 9 месяцев назад

Good comparison. Could you please compare Vitilan i7 Pro (80N.m) with Engwe Engine Pro uphill? According to an acquaintance who has owned both models, there is a big difference in uphill torque in favor of the Vitilan i7 Pro. Thank you.

@james_ralph_switzerland Год назад

Very good video - I notice that the claim on the Engwe x-26 is just Torque:60 N.m. / 1200W(PEAK) / Maximum climbing degree: 30° - Makes me wonder if the nm is wrong for that too?

@e-VRC Год назад

Yeah I do wonder where these numbers come from.

@yassinee.3463 Год назад

The Engwe x-26 is a joke just because its suspensions are just there for the design... I mean the suspension travel is almost nonexistent.

@vrr2300 4 месяца назад

Am on UK hilly area, so which one is good under 1000 pounds... 250 watt leegal

@lxmanul2236 Год назад

how do i disable the throttle on engine pro? in my country it cannot be used.

@durk541 Год назад

Remove it

@Schnooklebear71 Год назад

Couldn't tell how steep the hill was till you went down.

@yasuke1709 Год назад

I'm 6,2, 120kg so a high watt bike is needed for me to have the same experience as my friends, I just hope the law takes that into account if they ever decide to start clamping down

@e-VRC Год назад

When they make private scooters legal I wonder if they'd look into max wattage of ebikes too.

@70agrr Год назад

Yea this is part of what makes the current laws a joke, us bigger folks in hilly areas need more power, not really after speed, but the current laws just make no allowance for that

@drobostoko5714 Год назад

@@70agrr yep just limit speed but leave the wattage the same

@spike2251 Год назад

My 750w mid drive mountain bike has no problem going up much steeper mountains here in Colorado, throttle only, but mid drive is chain driven to rear tire allowing the use of my 8 gears, plus 9 power settings to motor, thats 72 gear choices, no hub driven compares,, im 105 kilo

@prevengeix8551 Год назад

Governments never take individuals into account. Can't you just be smaller? MUHahahaaaa, cough, cough!

@felixalbion Год назад

I need a bike that will climb a steep hill outside the village I live in. It's the only way back into the village. I hoped this video would give me some ideas. I don't know if it's just the camera but this hill does not look very steep. The hill to the village looks a lot steeper. At the moment I have a 250w pedal assist only folding bike with no throttle. I can make it up the hill but it's not easy. My health problems don't help. Problem is all the 750w bikes I look at are about 50+% heavier than my current bike so not sure if they would be better or worse on that hill. The hill into the village climbs about 120ft in less than 1/4 mile.

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Год назад

What you need is a 1000w converted bike or something.

@franksaunders-ot3ig 10 месяцев назад

get 1500 watt. use a voilamart conversion kit, about 300.00 for kit, another 300.00 for 52 volt battery and any bike it will fit intake you up any hill, throttle only

@woodworks2123 Год назад

Great video mate. Do you know the gradient of the hill?

@e-VRC Год назад

It changes quite a bit. One part is about 10%. It's not mega steep but steep enough.

@MarioGoatse 11 месяцев назад

I’d love to see you test some of the more expensive 250w mid mount motors like Bosch CX, vs say the 750w rear hub. It would be interesting to know if the mid mount and high 85nm torque helps it overcome its smaller 250w output.

@e-VRC 11 месяцев назад

I would too 👍 hopefully as I gather more subs brands with mid drives will want to work with me. They're always really expensive compared to hubs. But yeah it would be a great test 👍👍

@MarioGoatse 11 месяцев назад

@@e-VRC Well you’ve got one more sub here lol. Been enjoying your videos the last few days. Keep it up, mate!

@e-VRC 11 месяцев назад

@azzajaybrah ah thanks that really means a lot 🤟🤟❤️

@utubeape 10 месяцев назад

Bear in mind some of these motors cheat and say 'rated at 250w but has a peak power of 850w', or 1250w for another I looked at

@ripdangerdolanunsubbedbutn8902 7 месяцев назад

@@utubeape whee are these ? How fast will they go??

@kennerayzom6188 3 месяца назад

This is the video i was looking for. How these ebikes perform on a hill. Ebikes are weak on hills. Hope am right

@btrocketry3736 Год назад

Pedal assist is the way to go.

@e-VRC Год назад

Definitely. This hill would be easy for even the 250w with little pedalling effort.

@kohZeei 7 месяцев назад

How are the batteries holding up so far?

@annashealthylifeeverything8583 11 месяцев назад

do this Pro bike a pedestrian mode? Thank you for the test

@The_Privateer Год назад

To answer the question posed in the title - "How much power is needed?" ALL THE POWER 🌩 Because one can always choose to use LESS power if it's not needed or you feel scared. But once you are tapped out wide open, thats all you get, regardless of how much power you might need or want.

@e-VRC Год назад

Yesss!!

@bobikbobikowy5458 Год назад

Not really. I have diy ebike with 60V 45A controller so almost 3000W, and its pain in the ass. Torque arms, spokes, and even tubes and tire in wheel cant handle that torque. I cant just go slow because it puts all that power on the wheel with every start. I think i will have to buy weaker controller.

@uncrunch398 Год назад

@@bobikbobikowy5458 I started wondering this when I was looking at similar tires, some being ebike rated, some not. Is there no option to set the voltage low enough in the controller you have? I think in some, you can select it. Whether it'd damage anything being too low I don't know, at least it will help with what is damaged from too much torque.

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Год назад

1000 watts is the sweet spot imo. Can go over 30mph and climbs hills pretty well too.

@mr.monitor. Год назад

@@bobikbobikowy5458 yes you can always put down less power 😅 what a dumb comment. Because the ebike you cobbled together doesn't work right means nothing 😅

@anthonymark2013 Год назад

Can’t u only have a 250 watts by law in the uk?

@Ckillen2422 Месяц назад

I would like to see the hitway 750 watt hill test.

@messor01 Год назад

Anyway, it's not a disadvantage if you use the shifter as if you were riding a bicycle!! This is not a motorcycle! It's just an aid and you have to drive it to go!

@lizvickers7156 Год назад

Very true. People get these bikes and want to go 30mph. It's never going to happen, not in the anyway.

@franksaunders-ot3ig 10 месяцев назад

how about 1500 watt voilamart conversion kit?

@andrelochin4079 9 месяцев назад

An interesting test would be to compare a dual motor to a single motor of the same total power, like 2x250W compared to 500W. Because a 250W is going to be geared much shorter than a 500W, I suspect the 2x250W is going to climb a lot better than the single 500W due to the lower gearing.

@Boogie.VanMan 8 месяцев назад

Thats a video I´d like to see...

@luiginowhere 7 месяцев назад

A front all-in-one front motor hub

@laszlogergely6486 4 месяца назад

And adding energy consumption over distance datas for the nerds like us would be gold!

@jjm380t8 Месяц назад

pedalling w the bike is 2nd nature to me so even 30 degree hills i can pedal at 10mph (putting in decent effort with a 250w motor tho, thats why im upgrading to 500w)

@stayopenminded486 18 дней назад

My engwe pro 250w does 28 -30 miles straight and 34 miles down hill .

@foggy79 Год назад

@e-VRC what helmet are you using in this test, can't see it in the description, thanks

@e-VRC Год назад

I did a helmet video recently you can see more of it there. Can't remember the brand as it's from aliexpress.

@foggy79 Год назад

@e-VRC thanks, seen that video but little information to draw on, besides rum quality so found something similar from xl moto 😄

@theokingshango Месяц назад

Next time get three friends and test climb them together for a 2min video

@1bot674 11 месяцев назад

Is there an E-bike I can ride at 16 with no license in the uk that can get me up steep hills with human pedal assistance??

@e-VRC 11 месяцев назад

Check out engine x and L20 both from engwe. L20 is sold out at the moment though.

@Rorolap Год назад

Do you know c20 pro 500w? It new model comming Futur review?

@e-VRC Год назад

I haven't spoken to them about that bike as of yet.

@earnestthomas5565 Год назад

You think this a 52V 15Ah 1000W Ebike Battery Lithium Panasonic 21700 USB very good for a start off on a beginner first Ebike in my life ??

@e-VRC Год назад

Yeah just take it easy, sounds pretty fast.

@thirtysixnanoseconds1086 22 дня назад

riding 20mph on the pavement seems a bit dangerous? not to mention the 250w max output as required by UK law?

@e-VRC 22 дня назад

It's not 250w max output the wording on the gov site is incorrect. When did I go 20 on a pavement?

@Technician4444 5 месяцев назад

There's a lot more to it than just Watts & Power. A really lightweight rider on a light bike would fly up that hill, but a thick frame and chunky tyres coupled with a more heavily built person...well that's a different matter.

@e-VRC 5 месяцев назад

True but it's the same person going up the hill each time so that factor is irrelevant. Torque of the motor however...

@ruaplikator 7 месяцев назад

what is the distance ?

@jo100 10 месяцев назад

750w and 1,000w e-bike is great for very very very very Bigger Hills?

@e-VRC 10 месяцев назад

As long as you pedal too. They're still pretty slow on this hill without human help.

@EMarSounds Год назад

It must be the bike's weight or what's going on? I'd like throttle only power for steep hill climbs. I've seen a few e-scooters fly up a really steep hill, probably no more than a 250/500 Watt motor. Looking forward to testing mine in a few days, at night when there's no traffic, a trip to the beach at sunrise.

@e-VRC Год назад

They must have had really light riders then

@annashealthylifeeverything8583 11 месяцев назад

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@THEMASKEDMASTER 6 месяцев назад

✌🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿They don’t build E-bike’s for places like Wales. No E-bike would be able to get up our hills. In flat towns & cities they would be ok but the majority of roads in Wales are going up mountains.

@eBoard3R Год назад

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@francoisvocage4714 9 месяцев назад

Where can I find a helmet like yours in this video?

@e-VRC 9 месяцев назад

Aliexpress search scorpion helmet

@andy196414 Год назад

Eskute 250 sx please! Can you try it up the hill?

@e-VRC Год назад

Already did! Check out my second to last video 👍

@jimmyallen9927 Год назад

Good video my custom built 1000 watt bafang mid motor would eat that hill think its 160 nm of torque

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Год назад

Yeah it would, these bikes in the video are all hub motors they're built for speed not hill climbing.

@jimmyallen9927 Год назад

@Jude Price ive just bought a dual hub 2000 watt fat tyre still struggle to beat my mid motor on flat good race anyway lol

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Год назад

@@jimmyallen9927 my 1500w hub motor can get up any hill near my house without me needing to pedal at all. But my brothers bafang 750w mid drive can climb the hills slightly better lol. There are 2 nasty 10% gradient hills near me and the hub motor can get up it no issues although it slows down to 12mph.

@jimmyallen9927 Год назад

@Jude Price oh ok my new dual hub ate my largest hill near me which is 18% gradient also and im 110 kgs

@HaiderAli-uj1kv 17 часов назад

Can you please help me understand how a 1000W is allowed? I am considering to buy one but I need to make sure it can do steepy hills

@makrsu7619 11 месяцев назад

on the engwe website they changed the ep 2 pro to 50 nm while the engine pro and the m20 have 55nm

@e-VRC 11 месяцев назад

I don't think they know tbh 😂

@makrsu7619 11 месяцев назад

@@e-VRC yeah lol and thanks for posting these videos im buying an ebike next month and watching them has helped me figure out wich one i want even though im still not 100% sure thinking about the m20 or the engine pro so yeah just wanted to let you know that your vids are awsome

@e-VRC 11 месяцев назад

@makrsu7619 ah thanks very much, glad they help. The way I see those bikes is that the engine pro is faster and more versatile (rear rack, foldable) but m20 is cooler and with 2 batteries bigger range.

@riskyron1416 6 месяцев назад

I have a 1200 Watt e-scooter. A Ram Mia. on a 21% uphill grade I can do 38 KPH in the posted 40 KPH Zone, On the level it will do 56 KPH,. It is 60 volts on a 40 Amp battery. I am in Costa Rica and we have many hills 20 to 35%. One is 41% I weigh 183 pounds. I wouldn't like it a bit on the left side with cars passing. Were it necessary to leave the roadway I prefer exiting right. I am 76 years old. On bike only time I was ever hit by a vehicle was in Phoenix Arizona delivering 124 Sunday newspapers. Squad car came to my side hitting me then hit a palm tree 100 yards further. Drunk as a skunk on duty he was. Naturally I have never had any trust for right of way. I was unhurt, but all newspapers, my bike totally destroyed as well as the Levi pants I was wearing.

@FabioL121 5 месяцев назад

but it's very disapointing because 250w is the top an electric bike is legal in the UK

@WeileWorld Год назад

According to the law in Denmark the highest permitted motor power on ebikes are 250W.

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Год назад

Same in the UK. Nobody listens to the law though.

@MetalFreaken007 Год назад

Ja, jeg havde en EP2 PRO (solgte den netop fordi jeg var usikker på reglerne) , bor tæt på en politistation og havde aldrig problemer, tror bare hvis man kører ordentligt sker der ikke noget, jeg ser EP2 Pro overalt nu, og nu hvor det er rigtig dejligt vejr fortryder jeg solgte den.. så overvejer at købe Engine Pro.

@ninikronstadtninikronstadt3405 Год назад

Hi ... I want to see Polar a M6 !

@Bergwacht 11 месяцев назад

that shift leaver sucks, got one of these

@grzegorzbialy9193 Год назад

Can I have link to your helmet in this video?

@e-VRC Год назад

I got it from ebay but it's called a Steelbird Air. It came with 2 visors this one and a non see thru reflective one.

@Trillville43 Год назад

1. The first two were pointless especially having a 36v setup. 2. You compared two bikes with a 750 motor because the rating is based on nominal, not peak which seems to only be disclosed on the engine pro. That display will show you the current in amps so it's easy to figure out what the peak is on the other Engine bike as 48 x Amps = peak output. 3. Torque is meaningless because it can get geared for higher speed or greater pulling power so all these numbers are mostly marketing especially on ebikes sub $1800 USD to get business for a entry level ebike. 4. I have two 750w ebikes and one peaks at roughly 1200w while the other 1335w.

@e-VRC Год назад

I'm not sure 36v means it's pointless since as you said in point 2 voltsx amps = watts and I'm only talking about watts. Also I think the test is interesting since it will compare manufacturer claims. The eskute is advertised as 250 but seems to peak at 500. The ado and ep-2 pro do not have an advertised peak which leads some to believe the ado also peaks at 500 so should be labelled less with the ep-2 possibly peaking at 750. The ep-2 pro and engine pro are both labelled as 750 but the Engine is a much faster bike and now Engwe have started writing '1000w peak' on their page. I'm hoping to test a lot more vehicles on the same hill so will be a good comparison of performance based on manufacturer claims.

@robertovaldes6232 Год назад

what was the gradient of that hill incline?

@e-VRC Год назад

Ooh good question. It's not super steep. I say the degrees and % in my escooter lies video.

@MrDickBills Год назад

Here is the strange thing. These light weight bikes have as much claimed torque as my litre bike. My heavy bike hits 130 mph in seconds, but these things can not even crawl up a bit of a hill. By the way, I was not pedalling either.

@alfredxavier5880 6 месяцев назад

Basically don’t buy anything under 1000watt. I would say 1500 should be the sweet spot for entry bikers so they have a more pleasant experience and not blow money if your not too eager to purchase a EBike.

@michaelcrespo9614 Год назад

Can u put 1000 on 750

@bibinpsebastian3887 Год назад

Bro could please review cmacewheel rx 20 max…They say it has 750*2 motor…please…

@e-VRC Год назад

I'll check it out.

@bibinpsebastian3887 Год назад

@@e-VRC Thanks bro…much appreciated…Expecting a video soon…If possible please do a comparison with engine pro 1000w when you do it!!!!

@e-VRC Год назад

@@bibinpsebastian3887 no promises, if it looks interesting I'll speak to them to see if they want me to make videos about it 👍🤞

@kavorka8855 6 месяцев назад

it didn't look like much of a hill to me, less than 10 degrees I imagine

@shaynakash4222 Год назад

it seems weird to me that i get to 20 mph up hill with my 250 w e bike same conditions ,i do have a beast controller....

@e-VRC Год назад

Yeah the controller could be putting out more power and some companies pretend they're 250 when they're a lot more. Also, it's a different hill. This with or without pedalling?

@shaynakash4222 Год назад

@@e-VRC without ....

@Ezza1314 Год назад

What bike do you have

@shaynakash4222 Год назад

They are called soofa classic

@yaussaufman7277 Год назад

Please I want to buy one

@shaun5761 Год назад

That helmet is sick mate where did u buy it?

@e-VRC Год назад

Cheers. Aliexpress. It's a rip off of the 'scorpion' style helmet.

@e-VRC Год назад

Although that's our mysterious test rider not me 😂

@shaun5761 Год назад

@@e-VRC I'm going to get one for my fiido m1 pro 😊🙏 thanks for the reply cheers pal

@e-VRC Год назад

@@shaun5761 no problem. If I could, I'd get one with a clear visor too since when it's dark the eye bits are too dark so when I open them the wind is in my eyes.

@davidroberts6594 2 месяца назад

Not just watts but the more battery the better.

@HitchHikersBlues Год назад

Cool vid. Yeah, I reckon they got the print wrong on those last two bikes. I'm not really pushed on going a 1000 mph but I am interest in torque and battery life. I'm currently looking at the fiido M1 pro for my first ebike. Not sure of the torque on it though?

@columlynch4229 Год назад

Torque is everything. I'm 6 foot 4inches and 100 kilos and I own the engine pro as my first ebike and I'm 65 years old. That's anough stats. for me this bike rocks on hills hills simply are not an issue and speed is irrelevant . It always takes me 3 or 4 purchases before I make the right one but this time for once I hit the jackpot. I'm loving it 😍.

@HitchHikersBlues Год назад

@@columlynch4229 engine pro?

@HitchHikersBlues Год назад

@@columlynch4229 oh I see yeah. Thanks for the info 👍 I've heard stories of bikes been rated higher than they actually are in the torque department. So that's something to look out for also.

@columlynch4229 Год назад

@@HitchHikersBlues hello HichHikersBlues, your welcome and I should have said engwe engine pro. I only have this bike for two weeks now and I am still trying to learn how to ride it efficiently. I found out today that the best way to hyper mile it and get the best range is to pedal it in sport mode at level 2 on flat ground, 3 on mild to moderate hills and top level 5 for the steep hills (35/45% inclines). I also can regain lots of electrons downhill in sport mode level 1 and 2. Here in Ireland we have a "cycle to work" scheme that's tax free and I saved 750euros . It actually cost me 950euros after incentives. One thing is for certain if you buy this bike, you'll never have the Hichhikers blues again. 🚴‍♂️👍.

@HitchHikersBlues Год назад

@@columlynch4229 I'm actually from Dublin. I'm aware of the scheme. But this bike is for recreational use. I'm not sure yet which one to buy? I'm goin mental lookin at every bike video on RU-vid trying to educate myself. Overload. I think ya have to spend at least 1200 to get a decent one. Halfords are a bit dear for what ya get, but at least it's a shop you can walk into with comeback and human beings :-D Some of the websites are a bit shady I reckon. So much choice now 🤔

@ninikronstadtninikronstadt3405 Год назад

Polarna M6

@zohaibisnice Год назад

Bullseye!

@jonathanrose456 3 месяца назад

I’ve got 150nm of torque in my hand drill!

@goinawol9447 Год назад

Seems to me that bigger wheels equates to better climbing ability, and is the bigger/biggest factor in the equation.

@e-VRC Год назад

From this video the first bike had the biggest wheels: 26in vs 20in for the others. All things being equal wheels with a larger diameter should give a higher top speed but lower torque i.e smaller wheels should have better climbing ability.

@pastukas Год назад

The fat wheels are more like 23 inch than 20. So a much closer shot than it says on paper

@dtz1000 Год назад

Can we see the Engwe Engine X? It is a 750W Engwe ebike that is UK legal.

@e-VRC Год назад

So is it labelled as 250 but really 750?

@dtz1000 Год назад

@@e-VRC Yes, the website says 250W but I saw someone say it was 1000W and I've seen it go up to 28mph throttle only when unrestricted. It looks like the ultimate ebike for the UK and eu that complies with the law here. I want it.

@e-VRC Год назад

@@dtz1000 awesome, just what we need muhahahaha!!

@annashealthylifeeverything8583 11 месяцев назад

@@dtz1000 do you mean they are pretending it's 250 w? or do you need unrestrict it in order to get more power?

@dtz1000 11 месяцев назад

@@annashealthylifeeverything8583 You unrestrict it to get the speed above 15mph.

@slimdunkin117 Год назад

What helmet are you wearing here?

@e-VRC Год назад

It's from ali express. It's called Cyril or something. See more of it in my latest video - I compare it to a more expensive one.

@JemMawson 6 месяцев назад

Measured on Google Earth, this incline is a moderate 6.7% grade

@e-VRC 6 месяцев назад

Which part?

@deborahabsher9155 Год назад

How many volts are they though? Makes a huge difference

@e-VRC Год назад

36, 36, 48, 48

@deborahabsher9155 Год назад

@@e-VRC you got to run 48 volts on a 250 and 300 also to make it actual accurately unimin otherwise the voltage isn't comparative cuz now the 1k motors like 1200 in the 750s or like thousands compared to the 250 the 350

@e-VRC Год назад

@@deborahabsher9155 depends what you're testing. I'm comparing bikes that are advertised to be 250, 500, 750 and 1000 and their hill climb abilities. I.e. I'm comparing bikes not motors.

@deborahabsher9155 Год назад

@@e-VRC well if that's the case then take the motors off of him and peddle those damn bikes because you're using the motorss as a representative of the bike so no it's not an accurate description ..... This is what I do I have a hybrid with a 4 stroke gas engine and a 48v 1000 hub .... The bike it's self is just a chassis ...🤭

@e-VRC Год назад

@@deborahabsher9155 no the bike is what appears at your door when you buy it. The whole thing. The chassis is the chassis. The motor is the motor. The wheels are the wheels. Besides its kinda more complicated than what you said anyway as we should also take into account the number of amps coming from the controller/battery (which is actually what I did). The 1000w bike actually has a 750w rated motor but the input power is 1000w. So in terms of input power combining volts and amps its pretty accurate apart from actually the 250w bike peaks close to 500 and the 500w bike doesn't peak much over 500.

@ForceSabersUK 11 месяцев назад

Are you able to do the same test with a mid motor setup rather than a front or rear hub motors?

@e-VRC 11 месяцев назад

I have done the hill with a 750w mid check out my wau cyber review and you'll see how it compares with other 750w ebikes

@ForceSabersUK 11 месяцев назад

@@e-VRC oh thanks man going to check now

@ThatOnePoliceOfficer Год назад

I was gonna buy this brand new boxed £160 but got kugoo m4 kirin for £130 I'm good at not robbing people and giving them money then robbing them lol I just don't give them what I ask and I take a gun, yes I'm in the UK!