Echo Furry Horror Game 

Not my comment but I went into this game and saw Leo, thinking "Cute puppy" and ended his route with Visual Novel Trauma.

The thing about Echo is that you can't just play one route and expect to know everything, you must play every route in order to get the full story. Take Leo's route for example, Leo's route focuses mostly on his and Chase's relationship. It's not just a one-and-done kind of VN, the story has depth to it, and if your note willing to play through all of the routes, then you won't get the full story.

This is so accurate though. I love how the game is normal...ish for most of the game and then the last day the game like self-destructs or something because we just can’t have happy endings and chase isn’t chase and Flynn’s dead like twice and Jenna and Carl are possessed and Leo’s a freaking psychotic manipulative sexy asshole and TJs been traumatized to insanity and what happened to my school project again?

The supernatural mystery was the only thing that kept me in the game really. Had a lot of fun putting together bits and pieces in every route and having a mental orgasm whenever I figured something out. Cared little for the group tbh given how unstable they are since Sydney's incident which at that point started to change all of them because of the forces within echo. TJ's route was the first route I played because wanting to comfort him was my first instinct. We all know how that turned out 😒. Still, it told me who killed sydney and some clues as to why. Second was Carl's since during TJ's route he was acting all weird and I wanted to know why. As you all may know it had something to do with his and Jenna's ancestor's past dispute. I had a lot of fun figuring out what happened between John Begay and James Hendricks whilst also picking up some info about the forces that dwell within echo. I also like this route since they all live and at least Jenna, Carl and Chase got closer because of their experience in the spirit dimension together. Chase, despite having a permanent limping leg, finished his detailed report on Echo after 1 1/2 years. He's also determined to reveal the secrets of Echo and find it's truth (at least he's useful here in this ending 😒) After Carl was Flynn since I wanted to see if I could resolve this dispute and I also wanted to leave Leo's route for last. It was going quite well til, we all know how that ended 😒. This route revealed quite a lot about the mystery behind Echo and how the forces within Echo operate. Tho there weren't much clues given for the origin behind the forces in Echo that may have started in 1877, there were much given about the mine incident in 1915. The route also mentioned something like "First, 'it' came from the gate. Then, 'they' came from the stars" which I only have theories of. Flynn was the only one that "died" in this route. Even though Chase managed to become a professional journalist, he still lead a shitty life because he couldn't dish out reports on par with his college report on Echo. The route ends on an open note with Cameron and Devon. "to be continued" Lastly was Leo's which I actually quite liked. After having played all other routes, Leo's route gave me some semblance of normalcy til well, the hysteria happened which at this point I've already figured out about. I actually had a bit of an emotional attachment towards Leo and hoooo boy that train scene BROKE me. A battering ram straight to the chest. Just imagining him fading in the distance with a broken heart and Chase(Samuel: this scene confirmed that Samuel is the voice which was hinted in Flynn's route) pouring out all their hate and spite for Echo which had ruined their lives was enough to shatter my heart and open the flood gates I tried so hard to supress. I cried like a damn faucet 😭😭 Even though Chase in all these routes really is a useless coward, and a sniveling little piece of shit 😒 as Samuel would say. Who could blame him tho. Echo changed them and brought out their worst qualities after Sydney's death. Like how Sydney turned more violent after witnessing his Father's death and forming that secret with Flynn. Sydney's father was also driven to suicide because of his own secret he tried so hard to escape from. In the end they all come back eventually. They're only moving in circles (something Samuel came to realize) (Jenna's route isn't finished yet and I plan on playing when it is. Judging from the comments on itch, Chase is as shitty as ever. Blame Echo for that 😒) (He would've been more assertive and badass if Sydney's death didn't happen) All in all I think the story is mostly about Echo itself and not much about the group since they are just one of it's many victims. The story didn't really self-destruct towards the end. Most of it are just in bits and pieces in every route left for the "Player" to figure out which is the thing I like about it the most and how every route manages to intertwine in some way. If anything, Echo left me in anticipation as to what really happened during the 1915 mine incident which ruined the life of Samuel and hurt those close to him; William, Clifford, Nikolai, Synthia and possibly Murdoch but he didn't mention him. That mine incident could quite possibly be what opened the "Gate" and Sam's group were it's first victim. The 1877 hysteria could be the day 'it' came and was probably summoned by the natives of Echo hinted by Carl's route as camp fire and drums suggesting a tribal ritual of sort. The general idea about Echo is that it is chaos held together by lies and secrets. Tides of chaos/hysteria are held back with every lies and secrets that happen in echo. Those involved will have their mind corrupted in some way and will bring out their worst qualities along with some other nasty things like visions and voices. At a certain point, when too much guilt have built up and there is no new secret to tie it down, chaos will eventually run free and the truth being the only thing that can subside it. During a period of Chaos the town is locked down in a bubble isolating them from the outside and warped creatures (like Flynn in his route and momentarily seen in the mines in Leo's route) roam about to push them in revealing the "secret" that seeks truth (secrets like "Who killed Sydney?" which you all may know is Chase or "Who is the true criminal?" which is James Hendricks in Carl's route, giving justice to John Begay's death from being framed)(this is also why it pushed them into the lake to try and reveal "Who killed Sydney?") whilst killing those who are persistent in leaving and would rather leave their secret buried and unanswered. Time and space is warped during a period of chaos as shown by the looped streets in Flynn and Leo's route, and Duke who's dead beside Chase's car, seen in Flynn's route for a moment, which actually happened in Leo's route. When Flynn turned into a warped creature, he is described jumping through different times. Namely when he was seen by TJ near the lake and by Jenna when she was a child. These suggests that every route overlaps in some way in their multiverse made possible by the chaos within Echo. Honestly, this all just gives me more hype for The Smoke Room to see where Samuel's story leads to.

Feel like this was an unfair review. Im still trying to understand the whole game myself so I am looking for good reviews... Take the movie SAW. That is a psychological horror movie too. Jigsaw, the villain, is terminally ill with cancer and he is afraid of dying alone and regrets deeply of not living his life to the fullest. So he finds bad people to play his game. On the surface the moral he is trying to teach is to live your life to the fullest, while the WRONG moral would be to sympathize with Jigsaw and understand him for hurting others because he is scared. The viewer is supposed to mature from the psychological pressure the movie afflicted them with. The true moral of the movie is dont be a guy like Jigsaw; Dont hurt other people because you feel scared and alone and like the only person suffering. What you were supposed to learn was keep your suffering to yourself no matter how awful the hand you were dealt and how unfair life is to you. Thats what the movie hoped to teach its viewers. That's what I like about ECHO. Im more a fan of Leo's route, but I will talk about Flynn since that seems to be your favorite route and Ive gone off a tangent long enough. Flynns main issue with that group and Echo is how it lead to his best friend's death (Sydney). As he admits in the VN no one gave a shit about Sydney. He was an "asshole" to everyone when actually he was misunderstood and died undeservingly. This is why Flynn really hates everyone and he is still obsessed over Sydney instead of moving on. That is his issue/the bad moral we are not supposed the sympathize with just as we know we werent supposed to sympathize with Jigsaw... When Flynn entered the Smoke Room that was because he REALLY wanted to know and to see what happened that fateful day Sydney died instead of moving on, so he fell for the trap because he had weak morals. His punishment was to burn to death and live forever as one of the spirits unable to a move on and trapped in the circle that the town seems to be haunted with. The last thing he saw when he was alive was Carl who looks back after running away. It was a true friend like Sydney was to him. And because Flynn chose to stay in the past instead of look to what he has now, like his friends Carl and Daxton, he got punished by being blown into the past and sadly he unintentionally haunted his friends. Jenna in her closet and TJ at the shore of the lake before Sydney drowned which is why TJ doesnt want to remember that day. The reader in this route is supposed to learn to let go of the past and old friends, even best friends/family and FOCUS on who is in front of you right now. This is something like Leo's rote and why he was so obsessed with staying in Echo. The reader is supposed to learn how to cut "anchor" and never look back/regret/fantasize about the life you left behind. You left it behind because it was a bad town/environment. If someone wants to bring you back there you will be punished for it. Your legs are supposed to help you keep moving forward. If you go back to that life that haunted you and that you hate then it as if you arent moving ahead in life. Metaphorically it would be like you had no legs at all. Which is why I find it poetic that Chase's legs get dismembered yet is comforted instead of enraged by Leo, especially as he slipped away by remembering him and Leo in the good times. It's definitely bloody and grotesque but that is necessary too. If they just wrote "and he lived like a wife that regrets her marriage" troupe the reader woldnt be psychologically shocked enough to change their own ways. They need the anxiety and horror of that moment to motivate them to not be held back even if it's something that brings you great comfort like "unconditional love" (leo had for chase); You need to keep moving on and put one leg in front of the other even if the feeling feels like it is splitting yourself in two with all your friends and a future moving forward at the speed of a train while your first love is keeping you still. You will be split in half metaphorically (literally for chase) if you do for old comforts instead of finding new pastures. ((I thought it over and over again and I am such a glutton for staying in my comfort zone. I relate to Chase and Leo's bad ending so much. Even though its freaking awful I still feel like I could so easily make the same mistake and that it takes so much willpower to move on. But it did help me finally get over my first BF. Long distance so it was kinda expected but I still felt so sad and still somewhat attached. He kinda had the same body type as Leo too which helped extra in getting over him and I can finally move on in peace)). Overall I like the writing of ECHO. Its pretty poetic. It hits the reader very hard on the psychological scale and I found it pretty horrifying too. Thankfully not enough to scar me though XD But I am now a lot more concerned about potential huntings lol. There is a lot of symbolism and layers upon layers of hidden meaning that I just LOVE. It's worth reading because it has substance, unlike modern mass-produced horror films that have no morals to leave the viewer. While ECHO wasnt super original with the morals they leave the viewer, for the target audience since most furries are 18-35 things like ex-s or moving on from a bad environment or friends metaphorically dying to you by becoming homophobic/anti furry...etc The morals are actually useful to the people who might end up reading this VN. It definitely was for me. Both my parents are US citizens making me one by default, but I was born, raised, and still live in Dubai UAE which is a homophobic country and its fair to compare its traumas it left me with Chase's in Echo. Im a nostalgic person so I felt like I would miss this country when I leave it, but now no more. I will never regret my life and I will never think twice about moving back here. The VN really helped me in that department make up my mind and mature and focus on what REALLY matters for my life. Sorry for the long ramble. I just wanted to find videos/discussions of layers of meanings I missed. As you can tell I am such a fan of this VN even though I just recently enjoyed it for what it is despite knowing it for??? 1.5 years? How a second read-through really opens your eyes huh? I really wish more stories/movies were written like this that puts hard psychological pressure on the viewer to teach them better morals. Like I really needed that fright of losing my legs to motivate me enough to remember not to get attached/obsessed with past comforts and find new pastures. Its a lesson I wont forget for the rest of my life.

Dude, you have gotten ALOT wrong with going over this game. 1)Like, half of the plot details you criticize the game for are incorrect. You said "IDK they just passed out and were in the lake", when really the monster threw them in there like a wet paper towel. You criticized the cast for not being able to use cellphones but still being able to use gps, but they didnt use the GPS when they were escaping Echo. If your going to throw shade, AT LEAST throw shade using actual details from the game, not fabrications or false memories. 2)Bane isn't really involved anymore. The creator of this IP is a guy by the name of Howly and is composed of several different writers. 3) I believe you are missing the overall point of Echo. The point is that Echo is an amalgamate of different supernatural forces going on while the main cast tries to maintain some semembalance of their old friendgroup. Each force seems to have some bleedthrough between routes. The monster is present in almost all of the routes, the seeing force controlling chase is hinted at frequently, etc etc. 4) Why do you keep saying Gawroo? It's not exactly charming, if anything it's rather cringey and annoying? Honestly, I don't think this was a fair critique.

People tend to enjoy the game when they actually play through the whole thing and not give up and assume halfway through.

Gotta say I like this video a lot, had me laughing pretty loud. Nice job!

the smoke, route 65, echo and new sequel all connected to one and another. I love this game but I do agree the writing needs help because I think different writers did each route.

I thought this was a nice slice of life game when I downloaded it. The I started with TJ's route and thought the ending was too dark and tried for another. I tried Flynn's next. Oh the mistake Ive made... Overall though, Ive played through all the routes, well current possible. I definitely enjoy Leo's the best as it keeps you on the edge of your seat and had a happy ending. Carl's was great too, really wrapping up his character arc well. I'm just a but sad half the cast is missing for it. TJ was nice up until the end when I thought it was... a bit unfitting? I want the non swearing, super nice, angel lynx to have a good ending! Flynn's just really was quite the mindfrik in the end and was just terrifying and depressing overall since they reveal who the monster is. But it just doesn't sit well with me.

Carl was my first route and I enjoyed it a ton, definitely didn’t feel like a waste of time. Also, the conversation between chase and leo is realistic, i went through a similar breakup, and had a near identical conversation.

I first played through Leo's route, then carle, TJ, Jenna, then Flynn and it gave me a full picture of the whole game. Such as Leo, you get to know why they broke up, then with TJ, you get to know what happened to Sydney, and then with Flynn, you finally understand the cause behind it all. The Socket Man, which originates from Flynn.

Man Flynn's/Tj's route really messed me up they better make the sequel ambiguous as to what ending is canon cause I really cannot take it if it ends up making Flynn's route canon he did not deserve all that shit happening to him at the end

Flyyn is a hot lizard . Plus adorkable

I just thought about this but imagine the amount of money Chase can get if he sues his school for sending him to a place that puts him in danger to the point where he gets caught in a mass hysteria and nearly gets sacrificed

Flynn: Leo is this necessary Leo: Put the otter mask on Flynn.

Echo sounds like romantic/horror/small yiff lol Damn just going all over the place about this game XD 👍👍

THIS IS so well made NGL im glad I saw this I was also entertained from start to finish(the video)

I already love the game ❤️ I love every video you make Grawoo

Awesome Grawroo and I would've said yes watch Beastars,nice video cant wait to see more of your vids and streams Grawroo!!.

"Because it's a Bane game, it's about as realistic as me finding a wife" love that quote.

love the game! Last played it 2018. Will have to do it again.

It's an interesting perspective since I watched another review who he praised the whole story so far

Why is Leo so fine

Ok I'm glad to hear I missed not much I stopped playing because I was well too scared, the stalking boyfriend, the Chase creepy figure in the window and the car thing in a flashback? Just made me be like: "Ok no, I'm out, this is too much for me, I'm too scared"

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"While some kind of evil spirit lives in his mom's basement." *Immediately shows Big the Cat* EVIL DEMON CAT!! Also Jenna is hot. No one else will say it so I must be the one who does. :3

Huh, That's weird... Wasn't it Sydney and not Syndey?

Your problems echoes back to you

Our musky drox is a top grawroo? Such a shame, I liked his foxy dragon ass

just discovered your channel and my god this is entertaining, subscribed. I tried Echo and Blackgate recently after being absent for a year, glad to see that it's still a huge mess

"how do you even tell if a lizard is smiling"😭😭😭😂

Seems really cool 💯😎 UwU

I'm deffo not late to this video

fucking love your style of video editing

I liked the game, I like the smokeroom better though.

Why are his random.. "grawoo's" so quickly starting to grow on me xP

5:37 wait is that in Switzerland because that looks like a Swiss train going up in the mountains.

Nice

wow, and i thought i was gonna try to play this game

hmm looks interesting.

This game was a MESS But like I am too so it works out I had a whole lot of fun dancing around this dumpsterfire of a story probably way more fun than I should have fubsiubduibs

I think this game would have flowed a bit better if it was just one route, featuring all characters at once, I like the idea of alternate routes and various endings but it dragged on a little too long for me. I enjoy Adastra a lot more.

BAGUETTES WITH WEAK EMOTIONS

I regret watching peoples play echo while having attachments to the characters now i feel strange and sad

I dont like "everyting is cannon" logic. It settles precedent that you should play entire game as a whole "experience" while sacrificing main characters as if they are disposable. Also it I am tired of hearing this: A: You did not like Flynn's route? How about another one? B: Can I have a different ending instead? A: Lol no, but you still have 4 more routes to choose from, you would be missing so much if you don't play, just pick TJ next, you are going to have fun... So in the end it's not game with 5 different routes, it's a game with 5 different chapters.

I don’t know why I’m so sensitive towards this type of visual novel games. What the hell did I just plAYED FREAKING TJ I MISS YOU

Whos the wolf with the long fangs

Hey just asking could you tell me where you found the Conversation where people were talking about MC's, I want to see the rest of the thread.

i like your videos theyre really good

i dont understand the "grow" thing?

whats your twitter?

🐺🦵🔪 mhmm chumla

Man i played TJ route and who tf is Devon and cameraman and omg they just killed the lizard thogeter and stfp forever i'm like WOWW