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Eco-Worthy 12V 100Ah lifePO4 Battery, Teardown (PART 2)

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In this video I take a deeper look into the Eco-Worthy 100 amp hour lifepo4 12v battery.
I look at the cells and BMS in more detail. If you want to know what's in the box check my 1st video out. Buy from Amazon here amzn.to/4cl2IcJ or Ebay - ebay.us/rQ0TJh
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@anaspatel3625 2 года назад

Hi, great detailed video I've got both the smaller 10Ah and 30Ah varients powering some radio gear and a small 12V Victron Phoenix 250W inverter with no major heating on the casing pulling around 14A sustained output. I'm using ring to 45A Powerpole cables to hook up to my gear so no issues with sparks. The BMS in both seem to be good quality as with a 20Ah LFP charger the 10Ah charges around 7A from near flat and the 30Ah pulls 20Ah with hardly any heat on the rear of the case. The terminals don't look like they could withstand multiple cables as the screws seem to be fairly short. The 30ah is easy to transport as it uses standard lead acid 20Ah casing which is good. Glad to see these finally being reviewed in great detail.

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Thank you for taking the time to watch & comment, your feedback is very encouraging.

@skysurferuk 2 года назад

Vertical filming is a crime against humanity.

@DCGUY 2 года назад

I totally 👍 agree. I'm on a steep learning curve.

@semmelknoedel6006 2 года назад

Why ? I have also placed my BigTV vertically ! ;-)

@pvande 2 года назад

Great job. I already bought 100Ah 24V version of the EcoWorthy. After some initial issues (probably the cells were not well balanced) now it works very smooth and the capacity is above the advertized capacity.

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Many thanks your comments and support mean a lot.

@WolfKillerLestat Год назад

How are the batteries holding up 1 year on since this video? I am thinking about buying the 24v 100ah for my trolling motor

@louisbond646 Год назад

I have been told by eco-worthy that the cells in the 12 volt 100 amp battery are cylindrical cells not prismatic. Should I buy this or pass for prismatic cells later from another manufacturer? Again they say they are cylindrical cells.

@DCGUY Год назад

There are pro's and cons to cylindrical cells but the prismatic are generally preferred. If you are in the UK, look at my video on the Fogstar 105 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qrsbo9kxv38.html

@nicothanheuser1178 2 года назад

Activating Channel Notifications actually works ;) Nice Video again! Are there any reasons you observed so far that the battery is significantly cheaper than comparable products? I mean u mentioned grade A cells last video so this cant be the reason I guess. At how many degrees does the overheat protection switch off? I have seen another video on ''cheap'' batteries where it shuts off at around 75 °C, which according to the reviewer is too high because the battery should not reach this temperature. was the over heat protection installed in a reasonable place? And what about their charger? Did you buy it? Or any good alternatives?

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Thank you for taking the time to comment. I will figure out notifications. The battery is mass produced using inexpensive BMS, cheaper battery housing etc. Most battery management systems have high temperature cut off between 70-85 degrees. The variables are many, Amp rating of BMS, wire gauge used, load and so on. I'd rather a cut off in this region for safety. If I'm going over I'm either using too low a voltage for my loads or incorrect wire gauge. Heat during use is normal, but above 85 degrees your heading into danger zones, especially in an enclosed area as the cells are. The temperature sensor was installed correctly and is rated at 85 degrees. I am testing a standard 12v battery charger and the Victron 30amp charger with these cells. Also I'm going to test Daly 100 amp and 150 amp BMS on these same cells.. ECO-WORTHY seem to have found a good balance between quality and value for money. Also in case this was just luck, I've ordered 3 more to test.

@louisbond646 Год назад

I had heard yo c. What tool did you usae?ould put them in the freezer overnite & the clue would come lose very easily

@DCGUY Год назад

Nooo. Just use something like a spatula or paint scraper to seperate the seal, don't freeze.

@condor414 2 года назад

Please turn your phone/camera to the proper orientation for videos. this is hard to watch and gives a smaller frame not to mention it makes you look like an amateur. just trying to be helpful not trolling

@DCGUY 2 года назад

I appreciate the constructive feedback thank you.

@CTCTraining1 2 года назад

I’d disagree on the amateur comment .. RU-vid are pushing channels to make shorts to catch the attention of youngsters on phones. I’d be grateful if there was a way to tell from the thumbnail which orientation was coming. Some channels leave black bars left and right as a hint, for which I’m grateful. Meanwhile I’m grateful for the content and feel any issues are RU-vid‘s fault.

@ratfacekick 2 года назад

Does the load capacity for those BMS wires go up if you have 2 batteries in parallel? So a 70 amp draw would become 35 on those wires?

@DCGUY 2 года назад

With a parallel connection the AMP HOURS will increase, not the voltage or amps actually drawn. If you have 2 x 12v 100ah batteries in parallel the voltage stays at 12v but the amp hours increases to 200ah. Hope this helps

@ratfacekick 2 года назад

@@DCGUY Oh I think i get it. Series would bump up the volage and therefore cut my amp draw in half on those BMS wires, but parallel wouldn't. One last question, should I worry about the peak startup load from an appliance like a microwave or air conditioner when considering the max draw of 100 amps on these? So if it momentarily goes up to 120 or whatever when you turn it on. Thanks so much for the help

@DCGUY 2 года назад

I'm assuming here as i don't know your planned set up. I take it you will be using an inverter to convert DC into AC? A 100Ah Lifepo4 battery packs a lot of power and can handle what the BMS is set for. You will need to use an inverter suitably sized in WATTS. They come in different voltage ratings 12v, 24v,48v The inverter will have a "peak" rating e.g 3500w/7000w peak. So the inverter only takes the DC voltage then inverts it into something your appliances can use e.g AC power. You cannot connect a DC power item direct to an AC appliance. There's info on my website www.dcguy.co.uk which may help and links to what to use. There are downloads on wiring etc. Hope this helps.

@Lauriemine 2 года назад

Nice review, if you were to reccomend one, would you get this eco worthy or an ultramax with cylindrical cells?

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Hi, thanks for watching and taking time to comment. It's a great question. Both have their advantages, for serviceability e.g perhaps replacing a cell or BMS in the future the eco worthy wins but the ultramax has better size terminal bolts, runs much cooler under load and packs a bit more Ah but is larger / heavier than eco worthy. Only downside with the ultramax is the number of cells used (Cylindrical) so if one goes bad it would be a pain to find & replace but that's unlikely. I genuinely like both but you go with budget and space available.

@Lauriemine 2 года назад

@@DCGUY Those are good points, these are about the same price to me so wondered if any stood out. Both sound good. Thanks for the reply

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Your very welcome, thanks for watching

@markweatherall7437 2 года назад

Hi again, my 12v outboard trolling boat motor's output on maximum setting number 5 is an output of 64 amps with an input power of 768watts. Speed 5 only ever gets used in a choppy current and head wind, very infrequent where I go. Do you suggest I go higher than 100ah LiFePO4 because of this? If the wires are a little thin around the BMS could be risky. My train of thought is if the battery is say 150amps then the BMS cables would be thicker 🤔 The battery I used last year when out fishing was a 110ah leadacid but it weighs a ton for me now despite its handles. I got 2 hours out on the water with it fishing , stopping and starting so a LiFePO4 would help a lot for more range and time out on the water trolling/fishing etc I think? Thanks.

@DCGUY 2 года назад

I'd just stick with what you have, the amps you pull are well within the battery's capabilities.

@markweatherall7437 2 года назад

@@DCGUY Na its 4 years old now and about finished. Time for a lighter LiFePO4 battery hence why I stumbled across your page.

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Sorry I misread, I thought you were using a 100ah lifepo4 at present. Doh! 😆

@markweatherall7437 2 года назад

@@DCGUY Thats ok easy done, I just need similar range/duration out on water this spring/summer or more range if possible but less than half the weight. I've joined a 12 v boating group on Facebook to see what they use and suggest. I love a long line of recommendations nowadays because there's to much fake shite out there.

@thegremlinss 2 года назад

Hi, thanks for doing this authopsie ^^' I'm going to build a van to live in it, and I'm short on money right now to invest in a victron system, so I found this compagny with really nice price compare to other, so I wander if the quality is good enought to be trust. So your video are really enjoyable for me because now, I know safety is in it and in a van whos gonna be my home, safety is really important. Did you plan to do same things to their charge controler or their power inverter? I'm really interested to it. By the way, you have a new follower :)

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Hi, thank you for taking the time to watch & comment. I'm happy with the battery and have ordered 3 more, so more videos to come. I haven't looked at their other products but definitely something for future videos if I do. I will be uploading capacity tests soon. Thank you for your subscription.

@philyaboots1 Год назад

Lovely stuff.

@louisbond646 Год назад

Have a Worthy battery that seems to be ok but will send back if they will take it .

@NL-gn2dl 2 года назад

Does it have low temperature and high temperature automatic cut-off setting in BMS?

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it only has high temperature disconnect via a thermal sensor.

@handle924 Месяц назад

@@DCGUY another video showed EcoWorthy doesn't even have working short circuit protection

@ratfacekick 2 года назад

Their sales page claims they can be connected in series, is this true? Ive only seen the high end batteries claim this is possible

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Hello & thanks for watching and taking time to comment. Yes they can be connected in either series or parallel but no more than 4 batteries due to the bms limitations. Always fully charge each battery to the same state and let them sit overnight. Check voltages before making a connection. Remember the battery bank will only be as good as the lowest battery so bear that in mind.

@davebodger2 2 года назад

Yes, they can. I have built two 48V 30Ah battery packs using Eco-worthy 12V 30Ah batteries and they perform well running my UPS. Much lighter than lead-acid so easier to carry if you have to.

@louisbond646 Год назад

How did you get the case off without tearing it up?

@DCGUY Год назад

Very easy, they are just glued on.

@ah4800 Год назад

Can i use the 30ah as a 2nd battery for a car audio system

@DCGUY Год назад

Don't see why not, as long as its 12v. Just need to charge it separately.

@lucvers 2 года назад

Doed the bms switch the charging off below 0C?

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Don't believe so, you would need to get a renogy or SOK or swap out the BMS

@hurlou8909 Год назад

Hello, One thing to know about Eco Worthy. No guarantee, the satisfied/refunded is a lie. The first problem, the services will make you turn in circles citing various reasons. Too bad but to be avoided!

@DCGUY Год назад

Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated. Sounds like you've had a bad experience with eco-worthy. It's a lottery when it comes to after sales service, some say it was good, others say its non existent.

@lorenzom7237 2 года назад

Grazie!

@DCGUY 2 года назад

Thanks for watching

@KODIAKJAYMZ 7 месяцев назад

If the bms bad on these could you swap out with new?

@DCGUY 7 месяцев назад

Yes

@MrJellybean101 5 месяцев назад

So would you reccomend this battery for the price? It's £239 in the UK

@DCGUY 5 месяцев назад

It's a bit of a lottery these days, some are good some not so good but if it meets your budget and requirements its a good price. Look at dchouse which are rebranded eco worthy (even cheaper) and fogstar offerings too if customer service and known grade a cells are important to you.

@philrobinson215 4 месяца назад

@@DCGUY Are the bad ones safe though ??, does a reply further up about cylindrical cells mean they aren’t the same as the ones n the photo ?. I want something in my van, budgets tiny all it needs to power is a 12v alipicool fridge freezer 12v ciggy socket and 4 x 5w lights. It’s cheaper for me to buy one of these than it is to buy 2x 110ah agm’s 🤷🏻‍♂️. I’d love fogstar just haven’t got fogstar kinda cash

@DCGUY 4 месяца назад

Lifepo4 is very safe and have you looked at the dchouse brand? They are rebranded eco worthy batteries and were cheaper too.

@philrobinson215 4 месяца назад

@@DCGUY thanks for the swift reply, I have I’ve sat and watched a lot of your videos tbh. The dc house the eco worthy li time ultra max fog star and renogy. I’m still none the wiser 🤣. I’m used to sla agms never really looked at lifepo4 Before. I believe there’s a renogy core 100ah for around £300 that’s similar to the eco worthy with no Bluetooth bms ?, or smart bms it might be called. I’ve only seen you do the renogy pro though. Which would you Say is the better product out of ecoworthy li time or renogy core ?. / what the best cheapest battery. It’s either a cheap 100ah lifepo4 or 2 100ah class a agms but the agms are £150 a pop so pretty expensive compared with the ecoworthy