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Economist explains why Britain sucks (and how to fix it) 

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@PoliticsJOE
@PoliticsJOE Год назад
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@bennolan6802
@bennolan6802 Год назад
Any plans to put these interviews out on the podcast? Especially these in depth ones that aren't so time-dependent as the Westminster/media reviews you guys do would be great, I think?
@bennolan6802
@bennolan6802 Год назад
I'm talking about these interviews you've already done, by the way, not anything new, which I assume will be on the podcast in some form (?!)
@howarddavies3950
@howarddavies3950 Год назад
Not unless you get rid of that excruciatingly annoying music.
@samstewart6249
@samstewart6249 Год назад
@PoliticsJOE could you share this video more aggressively please? I think it would help give more people hope that things actually can change for the better
@moore_news
@moore_news Год назад
It's crazy how we have so many smart and eloquent thinkers and speakers and yet we persist with tired old ideas that are clearly not working
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 Год назад
They are- for the rich. Class is the defining characteristic of life in Britain. The rich know it and use it to their advantage. Now, more than ever they are exploiting all the levers at their disposal to secure their position, safe in the knowledge that Britons are too weak and apathetic to oppose them. The Labour Party pretends to be the party of the workers yet has no class based analysis.
@fredatlas4396
@fredatlas4396 Год назад
@moore_news The mess our country is in now is entirely down to our tory government since 2010, they are totally responsible. We need to get rid of these selfish, greedy, dishonest and corrupt tories before its too late. And we need to change our first past the post voting system. We need a proportional voting system, one that means every vote actually counts. Then our polititical parties will be more accountable to us, easier to kick them out if they don't do things that benefit our country or the majority of its citizens
@DONTSASSMEBOI
@DONTSASSMEBOI Год назад
Bendy bananas!
@-win-
@-win- Год назад
That's right the funders of our politicians wouldn't like that at all
@modestproposal9114
@modestproposal9114 Год назад
A fundamental need in democracy is a free media. We don't have one, it is captured by foreign tax exile billionaires.
@47redtop
@47redtop Год назад
Full of wonderful ideas, such an inspiration and interesting way to look at our society. I wish sometimes I had went to university to hear all these things but I didn't for a host of reasons. Now nearly 60, I feel I have access to well informed, erudite and emotionally well balanced philosophies. I was,am, one of those who didn't have a place in this society. Someone listening in the hinterland who has experience of being left out. It gives me enormous pleasure and some measure of relief that there are individuals who have a compassionate grasp on our future. I am so grateful to this channel, what an amazing job you do. My wish is that this is all part of evolution. All it takes is one brick to dismantle and the walls fall down. May I just say, I'm half educated but I'm becoming wholly complete in myself. Once you start to see, you can't go back. I have the feeling I'm not alone in this.
@HyacinthFl0wer
@HyacinthFl0wer Год назад
Agreed. Well said.
@AW-uv3cb
@AW-uv3cb Год назад
This is a wonderful comment, and may I say (hope it doesn't come across as patronising!): I've seen many a supposedly well-educated person who wouldn't be able to phrase their thoughts so well, not to mention the underlying sense of your self-awareness, empathy and hopefulness. Whatever you've been doing with your life instead of going to university, clearly it was time well spent in terms of your mind! And yes, I'm also in awe of how many wonderful resources to knowledge we have these days at our fingertips - and you're definitely not alone in your brick-wall-dismantling experience! 🙂
@tomdudley5314
@tomdudley5314 Год назад
I wish these thinkers would get more airtime on mainstream channels so that that more of the general public could feel that there's more viable options out there for a general eco/political direction of how the country could be headed towards. Really big up on politicsJoe for finding these great discussions.
@user-sc4jy2hk5e
@user-sc4jy2hk5e Год назад
Imagine how many elders and those not technically focused are gonna feel when the Sht hits the fan...and its coming .
@Cotswolds1913
@Cotswolds1913 11 месяцев назад
Even if they do come laced with ignorant thumbnails.
@Hession0Drasha
@Hession0Drasha Год назад
I like the democracy voucher idea. It lets the public punish political parties that misbehave, by depriving them of resources.
@MattOGormanSmith
@MattOGormanSmith Год назад
Well we do have vouchers. They're called banknotes. If you issue special ones that can't be spent on necessities, then there will be black market brokers buying them up.
@Hession0Drasha
@Hession0Drasha Год назад
@@MattOGormanSmith only those apathetic to politics would sell. The rich and powerfull would have to at least give the poor something in exchange, as a bribe to vote for their neoliberal shitshow. This combined with pr, would mean they would have to spend a lot more, bribing a lot more peopIe, to achieve victory. Raising the difficulty of acting against the public interest significantly. I think this can largely be fixed with political science education.
@johnstirling6597
@johnstirling6597 Год назад
The electorate has a very short memory unfortunately , witness the ,(slight) resurgence in the polls recently since Rishi took over, completely ignoring the horrors that the (Tufton street) conservatives have wrought on the UK over the last twelve years.
@witthyhumpleton3514
@witthyhumpleton3514 Год назад
@@MattOGormanSmith You need an ID to vote anyway, bind it to a person's identity, that way you can't sell or buy them, it's a simple one per person system, so even if you want to spend money on it, you won't be able to.
@tomgedney101
@tomgedney101 Год назад
@@johnstirling6597 The average voter has no idea what Tufton street is and would dismiss it as conspiracy theory without even touching the surface.
@EamonCoyle
@EamonCoyle Год назад
Why is it that the people who have the most sensible and people centred ideas never become politicians ?
@morganflack7542
@morganflack7542 Год назад
'Only those who do not seek power are qualified to hold it.'
@tomjones8715
@tomjones8715 Год назад
Maybe the ideas won’t work hey!
@EamonCoyle
@EamonCoyle Год назад
@@tomjones8715 Maybe you should find someone to borrow an idea off as you don't appear to have any !!
@johnners911
@johnners911 Год назад
You've pretty much answered your own question there, imo
@EamonCoyle
@EamonCoyle Год назад
@@johnners911 I don't know, seems like its the only profession in the world where "those who can teach and those who can't do". Quite the paradox !!
@nate9198
@nate9198 Год назад
Mainly we persist with old ideas because it does not disrupt those who are economically fortunate, rather it favors them and their future prospects.
@stephencostin2616
@stephencostin2616 Год назад
The problem is England is a very class based society, this holds back ordinary people.
@citizenphaid1880
@citizenphaid1880 Год назад
Perhaps if you’re looking to operate in the higher echelons of business/finance or politics but not anywhere else 😂
@grobins26
@grobins26 Год назад
​@@citizenphaid1880yeah the people who run our country???
@jamesdonald8458
@jamesdonald8458 Год назад
I’m 57 1 of 6 kids from a council estate, left school cos my Mum wanted her keep, I worked hard and loved it, became a site agent at 18yrs old worked for myself built houses etc, I wasn’t academic but very good at metalwork, woodworking PE but that’s disappearing from the curriculum and putting pressure on children like me
@richardnunns5727
@richardnunns5727 Год назад
Will be buying the book & recommending to my 6th Form History students - very inspiring & encouraging for those wishing to form a vision of what a better future might look like. When I started teaching in 1994 very few students would say there were considering emigrating. Now many of my students can’t wait to leave. We have serious problems that require serious thought. Thanks for this - much appreciated.
@markysgeeklab8783
@markysgeeklab8783 Год назад
I was one who wanted to emigrate when at school in 1994. I did after I left school and it was the right decision. The UK can be a terrible place to live if your ancestors were not friends with William the conqueror
@MerrickKing
@MerrickKing Год назад
Instead of abolishing private schools, I think we should make state schools so good that they're private schools are made redundant. We should make all education equally GOOD, not equally BAD.
@testname3829
@testname3829 Год назад
As a rule of thumb you can be certain that the children of those well off will receive resources for a good education due to the influence of their parents. If they are in a private school then their parents will lavish resources on that school and neglect all other schools. If they are in a public school then their parents have no choice but to make sure that school functions properly, incidentally also providing a quality education to the children of those without influence.
@bdenbhurrito
@bdenbhurrito Год назад
I wish I was as politically naive as you. My sweet summer child, may I ask how you would achieve this?
@Ashok_Regiment
@Ashok_Regiment Год назад
@@bdenbhurrito He does have a point. That's what should be done, abolishing private schools without raising the education standards/quality of the state schools is racing to the bottom. It's what a communist regime would do and it doesn't solve the underlying problem which is underfunding. The solution is to increase funding either through tax increases or through fund redistribution. Otherwise, all you do is punishing the better off and the skilled teachers who work in those schools.
@MerrickKing
@MerrickKing Год назад
@@Ashok_Regiment Also worth noting that those thousands of kids in private education would then be put into the state school system, applying even greater burden. Plus wealthy parents would just hire private tutors. Also worth noting that it would arguably lower social mobility for children at these private schools under bursary and scholarship programmes.
@testname3829
@testname3829 Год назад
@@bdenbhurrito By abolishing private schools and requiring all children attend public schools. Once all the children of the wealthy and influential attend class in a public school you can be certain that there will be a new urgency to the question of properly funding public schools.
@ScruffyTubbles
@ScruffyTubbles Год назад
I always recall an Italian educated bloke when I was much younger saying he didn't understand the word as Public Schools in Italy were for the public and one only spent on private education if ones child was educationally backward. I am pretty easy going but we have to invest more in post 16 education particularly FECs that have been run down and bring back Polys and HECs.
@dominicreid4gg.90
@dominicreid4gg.90 Год назад
Public school - anyone can go if they have the money and pass the entrance exam. Private school - they choose who goes doesn’t necessarily mean you got the grades to enter, more schools are moving away from this.
@ScruffyTubbles
@ScruffyTubbles Год назад
@@dominicreid4gg.90 Not in Italy it would seem. Only those educationally disabled need to be privately educated.
@Hession0Drasha
@Hession0Drasha Год назад
I love that italy has the university of the 3rd age. They really care about affordable life long education over there :) It's not, make one mistake and get debt trapped in mimimum wage work forever, like the usa. Or like where the uk is heading.
@aasphaltmueller5178
@aasphaltmueller5178 Год назад
also in Austria - privately payed education is for children that can not cope in the public school system.
@ScruffyTubbles
@ScruffyTubbles Год назад
@@Hession0Drasha Perhaps this is why abolishing FECs HECs and Polys was a manifestly bad idea.
@harrygoodwin1795
@harrygoodwin1795 Год назад
Superb stuff, this channel has a glut of brilliant interviews. Have you ever considered putting them out as podcast episodes?
@andymeh499
@andymeh499 Год назад
Eliminate politician as a career option and have representation for every walk of life and ban lobbying.
@megannehover4013
@megannehover4013 Год назад
There's open lobbying - environmentalists, communities, charities, etc - whose lobbyists appreciate public attention to their cause. And there's hidden lobbying for the benefit of individuals and vested interests who prefer to keep their lobbying out of the public eye. The former is very useful. The latter needs to be banned.
@ltmund
@ltmund Год назад
​@@megannehover4013 Corporations aren't stupid. They'll continue to find ways around a system any way they can. Ban Corporations from lobbying and not 'useful" lobbying and the Corporations will just infiltrate them. Lobbying is, by definition, anti democratic. It gives specific groups and ideas more power than the people.
@markgladman2789
@markgladman2789 Год назад
Wow! This is a fantastic discussion. It needs greater mainstream airing. We are in need of a Brexit dividend, and a comprehensive visionary overhaul of British society could be just what is required......
@norwegianzound
@norwegianzound Год назад
Brexit dividend? After 50 years integrating yourselves into one of the coolest things ever made, you ain't going to fix this mess quick. It'll take another 50 years. By then you'll have rejoined.
@user-sc4jy2hk5e
@user-sc4jy2hk5e Год назад
BBC or ITV Probably..lol...
@asahdo
@asahdo Год назад
As long as the rich can send their children to private schools there is no incentive to make state schools adequate for the rest of us. If anything is disincentivises improving state schools because the bigger the gap between state and private schools the more private schools are giving value for money! If rich people had to send their children to school with everyone else then they would care about making those schools as good as they could be.
@RebekkaHay
@RebekkaHay Год назад
What a nourishing tonic to hear some common sense so well explained! PS: I’d like to offer some feedback, the neon lights are visually very stressful and distracting, maybe you can tone them down in future videos? 🙏🏻
@mattliamjack3293
@mattliamjack3293 Год назад
Great work. depth. engaging. a vision, which is what politics lacks. Thanks guys 😊
@jonb5493
@jonb5493 Год назад
Obviously Daniel Chandler is very sharp.
@stevenredpath9332
@stevenredpath9332 Год назад
Liz Truss and her think tank backers had a vision. Only thing they got right was we need a growth strategy.
@legionofswine
@legionofswine Год назад
Two things that were missed out from the "voting" part was the fact that we have a "monarchy" and an unelected second chamber. Both of these have to go for any semblance of democracy to happen in the UK. We can decide what to replace them with after.
@Kerygmachela
@Kerygmachela Год назад
I agree with the sentiment BUT: As mentioned in the interview, one of the main problems with our elected democracy is that success as a politician is dependent on serving the interests of large corporations and oligarchs, since they main donors to the parties, while lying to the public about it. The house of lords is actually a moderating influence since its members aren't dependent on campaign funding and so have the freedom to do what they think is right. So we have to be very careful about replacing it. Not to say the house of lords shouldn't be replaced, but replacing it with an elected system without fixing this issue will only make things worse. One alternative is we replace the house of lords with a house of citizens - people chosen at random from the general public. Since they're chosen at random they'll represent people from all walks of life, and since they don't have to compete for votes there's no perverse incentives and they can do what they think is right. These people are campaigning for a house of citizens in scotland so they have a proposal for what it could look like: www.sortitionfoundation.org/house_of_citizens_scottish_parliament
@legionofswine
@legionofswine Год назад
@@Kerygmachela If you have PR in the first place, you can decide whether a House of Lords or a House of Citizens is needed or not as all votes for the HoC will count equally. Until PR is introduced and hereditary privilege and the honours system are binned, which should be the starting point, then what the second chamber is is irrelevant. Having said that, I am absolutely in favour of more public input into political decisions both locally, regionally and nationally. How we do that should be debated and the House of Citizens idea seems a good starting point.
@OnlyNetEdits
@OnlyNetEdits 9 месяцев назад
How about just voting on literally everything by everyone
@FrankDennis-fc8tl
@FrankDennis-fc8tl Год назад
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@taylorharry4848
@taylorharry4848 Год назад
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@owenvincent4586
@owenvincent4586 Год назад
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@davidlincoln2066
@davidlincoln2066 Год назад
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@MikeHuggies
@MikeHuggies Год назад
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@cadenjames2568 Год назад
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@LeornianCyng
@LeornianCyng Год назад
Agree with everything in the interview. Urge everyone to listen to Big Zuu - The Struggle, which is a poem / rap about the education system and an unequal society.
@gailclough1665
@gailclough1665 Год назад
I lived in China and studied Confusionism. In education there should be no distinction of class
@petegromov9037
@petegromov9037 Год назад
Confuceism? Confusionism is what right wingers do.
@dananskidolf
@dananskidolf Год назад
Hey, it's easy to get Confuced between similar words.
@gordonbradley3241
@gordonbradley3241 Год назад
Finland abolished private schools ! Diverted all resources into state schools ! Ended up with the best education system in the world ! And a far more equitable and less fractious society ! Our Tories would never ALLOW that ! !
@dfishpool7052
@dfishpool7052 Год назад
A most interesting interview and I agree with much that was proposed. However let us not forget that the aristocracy has successfully held on to land, power and wealth, certainly since the invasion by William of Normandy. This group will never ever countenance any change that would loosen their grip on the country. If you think about it, when the need for people representation became overwhelming the ruling aristocracy countered it very well by introducing 'the first past the post' system and thereby ensuring that they would still be in control! Any sort of development of democracy in Britain has only been possible through blood, sweat and sacrifice - witness the struggle for female emancipation, witness the battles of the Chartists etc. The aristocracy have always employed a brutal response to any assault on their percieved god given right to rule the country, amass great wealth and oppress the peasants! The monarchy and the principal public schools, Eton, Harrow and Winchester are the instruments whereby the aristocracy ensure their futures. Without the destruction of these institutions there never will be any change in wealth distribution or any meaningful extension of democracy in Britain.
@mostlytranslucent
@mostlytranslucent Год назад
Based.
@toffeebear7133
@toffeebear7133 Год назад
Here here. The country of the elite
@markysgeeklab8783
@markysgeeklab8783 Год назад
Fix it... or just leave ?
@FelicityDwyer
@FelicityDwyer Год назад
Loved this conversation, both the practical ideas and the underlying philosophy which seems to me so obviously fair. Even though I tend to be an optimist, I struggle at times to see how we will make changes under such a divisive political system as we have now. Listening to Daniel has left me feeling hopeful and I hope his book is widely read and discussed.
@justsomegeezer69
@justsomegeezer69 Год назад
Great conversation, thanks!
@cazzi1929
@cazzi1929 Год назад
A very positivist account. Not without its problems and rather less radical than you might think. Nevertheless, it's practical advice which I'm sure will be appreciated. Less radical because it's addressing problems at surface level (by rhyming off positivist evidence), but does not critically engage with ideas of 'modernity', 'enlightenment', and 'common sense'. Mentioning structural violence, gender, racial, and inter-class-based oppression and their causes would have put me in more of a mood to agree with the author. For example, how do we collectively want to define equality and freedom - equality and freedom for whom? What is the role of the state and who will their interventions benefit? Is democracy inherently exploitable by a ruling capitalist class? Or, in Chantal Mouffe's theorisations, can democracy become something more inclusive of 'the other'? This is definitely a move in the right direction but I'd like to see more solutions to questions posed by critical scholarship.
@jeffjefferson7384
@jeffjefferson7384 Год назад
Rent control, utilities owned 51% by the state, getting rid of the punitive benefits system (if you've paid tax, you're paying for it anyway), properly funding NHS wages, no student tuition fees, free school meals. These are investments for the future - unlike giving giant contracts to your friends.
@user-sc4jy2hk5e
@user-sc4jy2hk5e Год назад
But yet,,£11billion given, given for illegal immigration...stinks don't it when we also had austerity for 9/10 years..and covid ongoing,,,the Ukraine war.sht in our water,financially killing all. this our wages we went without..undercut by cheap labour from abroad,,,and they were only trying...its disgusting. The way you the rich gov who ever think you can do this....the puppet master..
@farhadchaudhry
@farhadchaudhry Год назад
This guy worked for the Tories from 2010 to 2013 and the IFS from there on. Went to Cambridge, Harvard, and LSE. Isn't he sort of the poster child against his own argument?
@DutchLabrat
@DutchLabrat Год назад
Don't underestimate the effect of class differences in British English!! Every language has upper and lower class accents but no other language I know of is so laden with shibboleths and class identifiers. This is of course an holdover of the Normans, basically French-derived=upper class, Saxon-derived=serves. It makes it very difficult for working/lower class English people to shake off their background. Not saying they should off course but English society DOES judge them on that. You really notice that if English is your second language because the first words you learn are often upperclass words and the pronunciation you (try to :D ) use is Received English. When I try to pronounce English correctly I sound posh!
@dellwright1407
@dellwright1407 Год назад
On the other hand what I have noticed in my lifetime is a significant increase in working class and regional accent representation in the media. Upper Class english is now toned down - even the Queen's Christmas speeches reflect this from the 1950s onwards. Nevertheless, you are quite correct in pointing out that it does still very much exist.
@Musika1321
@Musika1321 Год назад
Ordered his book. This is good stuff.
@da90sReAlvloc
@da90sReAlvloc Год назад
What's the name of the book
@Musika1321
@Musika1321 Год назад
​@@da90sReAlvloc it's in the description 'Free and Equal'
@jeff__w
@jeff__w Год назад
41:29 “…a Citizen Wealth Fund…” Sounds very close to Matt Bruenig’s proposed policy of a social wealth fund which he calls _The American Solidarity Fund._ Such a fund would provide a universal dividend for people in the US. “A dividend-paying social wealth fund,” Bruenig says, “reduces wealth inequality by moving wealth out of the hands of the rich who currently own it and into a collective fund that everyone in the country owns an equal part of. It then reduces income inequality by redirecting capital income away from the affluent and parceling it out as a universal basic dividend that goes out to everyone in society.”
@Elias_Avraham
@Elias_Avraham Месяц назад
The issue I find with abolishing private schools (a sentiment I agree with), is that the UK has the largest wealth disparity in Europe and the G7. Whilst abolishing private schooling gives wealthier upper middle and higher class an investment in state education schools, it would also create a loop that already exists with some state schools, and that is incredibly wealthy catchment areas with housing costs such that only the wealthy could live, and areas with schools that have little income or opportunities filled with students from lower income backgrounds regardless, I'm glad he goes into a point that this issue doesn't exist in isolation but I think the solution requires a much broader and comprehensive thinking not just in thinktanks or political circles but a discussion we need to have as a society as a whole.
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond Год назад
Greetings from Germany where we have 6 or 7 parties to choose from and are still stumped where to put the x.
@estherdeangelis
@estherdeangelis Год назад
I really enjoyed this enlightening political & philosophical discussion about the ways we can both remove the barriers & implement relatively simple policies to create a fairer, more equal & engaged populace.... one that is enrolled in a vision of a society where everyone has the potential to grow, actively contribute & be respectful of self & one another.... Proportional representation is one such proposition, as is the abolition of mega donations to our 2 party system with it's obvious influence. We must keep asking ourselves how can we build a society which is more enlivened, gracious & generous....encouraging real equality of education & insightsç, creating new visionary his/herstories that nourish & inspire future generations.
@hilaryporter7841
@hilaryporter7841 Год назад
We had an alternative and Starmer was planted in the Labour party to ensure that the alternative would NOT happen. Workers would have had a stake in their industries and representation on boards. That is what needed to happen. Tertiary education, both university and vocational should be paid for out of tax. That would be a good step towards narrowing the wealth and status gap. There are many good people within the Labour Party who currently are keeping a low grovelling profile but that approach won't butter any parsnips. What's happened to the majority is a disaster coming on top of 13 years of rule by the tory Mafia. As for nationalization, it has to happen, the wellbeing of future UK generations depend on it to put a stop to the greed. Starmer is a liability, he has no integrity and now many people see it.
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 Год назад
Starmer is the establishment pick to maintain neoliberalism and endless austerity. It is a dystopian nightmare like something out of 1984. Unless the left ever takes over the leadership of the Labour Party there is no hope for Britain but even if it does the majority of the people do not even want even the mildest form of democratic socialism as long as the Tories shout 'communist' or 'radical left' at the top of their voices. Meanwhile in the rest of the world right wing parties are to the left of Labour and the Tories in the UK.
@dmmoctober
@dmmoctober Год назад
Did that parsnip thing exist b4 lycett?
@fredatlas4396
@fredatlas4396 Год назад
@hilaryporter7841 People had a chance to vote for Jeremy Corbyn & the Labour Party in Dec 2019 election, but too many people were taken in by the right wing media, newspapers like the daily mail, daily express, daily telegraph, daily star, sun & sky news, talk radio etc and they voted for brexshit and the con party instead
@hilaryporter7841
@hilaryporter7841 Год назад
@@unknown_name_389 The people did as they were told by the media. Most of the media is privately educated and part of the problem.
@fredatlas4396
@fredatlas4396 Год назад
@@unknown_name_389 seriously, you obviously don't understand what socialism is really about. And since 2010 the majority of people in the UK who are basic rate tax payers paying 20% on income, are actually paying a lot more now for services we aren't getting thanks to our tory government since 2010
@LawrieAndCo
@LawrieAndCo Год назад
Nice interview, bought the book.
@stewartmcfarlane2008
@stewartmcfarlane2008 Год назад
Very good. Anyone who took the Oxford PPE, must have studied Rawls, yet his ideas have no influence on British political thinking. However, it should be remembered that in PPE, Philosophy is the subject usually dropped at the end of First Year, but surely Politics involves reading Rawls. Strangely, I cannot imagine intellectual giants such as Cameron and Truss, engaging with Rawls.
@williambarnett4255
@williambarnett4255 Год назад
Bring back grammar schools. In order for people to get a good education now their parents have to own property in rich areas. Rich areas = good state schools poorer areas = worst state schools. At least with Grammar schools bright kids no matter their background could receive a good education. Obviously it’s not without its flaws but since their demise private schools have increased in their dominance over everything. At least Grammar schools challenged them
@roody59
@roody59 Год назад
I’d agree. We need some kind of equivalent to Grammar Schools. Grammars are not perfect and some of my family members said they had a torrid time in Grammar schools because they got in because they were bright not through money. Can cause bullying etc. Overall I’d agree though. There’s so many untapped geniuses going to waste in society. It’s time we nurtured those minds for a better future!
@martynbowen3915
@martynbowen3915 Год назад
The new broom system, I think that a certain party has thought of the possibility that this might happen, hence their scrabbling panic
@tidysampler585
@tidysampler585 Год назад
Superb content. Such an inspirational piece of thinking. Clear & pointing in exactly the right direction 👍
@darrenalevi3006
@darrenalevi3006 Год назад
Love the interview laying out a great humanist reforming approach to our political process.
@Tayyla007
@Tayyla007 8 месяцев назад
I am from Finland. Loved the discussion. There was some mention of the Finnish school system. It is not in a good place currently. Hopefully will get back on a better trajectory. Our system is failing us. Rawls's ideas are sorely needed here as well. Inequality is rising, the current government is widening the Gap between haves and have nots. It is far right populist and is applying the Thatcher Reagan neoliberal policies full on with the world in the state it is. Total stupidity. We need to change the status quo before it' too late. It may already be. But thank you for the insights here❤
@joanneburford6364
@joanneburford6364 Год назад
Maybe look at the Australian system of mandatory preferential voting, much better than 1st past the post.
@clivemitchell3229
@clivemitchell3229 11 месяцев назад
The big question must be: why do private school pupils do better? Why do moderate income parents skimp and scrape to send their children to bottom-tier private schools rather than continue sending them to the local state school? It only takes one chronically disruptive child to make learning difficult for the rest of the class. A top teacher who has to prepare lessons for four levels of ability in each class they take is going to be overworked. "Private schools unfair, get rid of them" is simplistic and may be throwing out the baby with the bath water instead of learning from a more successful system. Sort out the problems with the state schools first. When state schools are as good as private schools, then abolish private schools, not before.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 Год назад
Milton Friedman's idea were never implemented in the USA (because legislators and American oligarchs aren't that stupid or pernicious, interestingly). They were implemented in certain South American countries, and in post USSR Russia, all of which brought bread lines and soup kitchens (no such things existed before the "chicago boys", look them up) He thinks we need to not discuss wealth redistribution but insists we need to tackle poverty, but IT'S THE SAME THING.
@CareyB85
@CareyB85 Год назад
super insightful this!
@Glbkwpg
@Glbkwpg Год назад
This is a brilliant explanation of the issues. Will be buying the book.
@nickjanczak9665
@nickjanczak9665 Год назад
This discussion needs to be heard and had everywhere on a regular basis. Constant examination of any system as it is and how to improve it should be the role of MSM news but it never is...
@artofsam
@artofsam 11 месяцев назад
What I really admire about Daniel is that unlike so many people now he isn't preaching anything remotely radical which is what the far-left have been doing for some time proposing ridiculous things like defund the police or suggest some kind of 'reset' that just seem like abominably awful ideas which stem from a marxist/communistic stance of what people (who disregard history) still seem to think is the answer to how we should run society. I think we can all agree communism is horrendous without resorting to "isn't capitalism great" we are in the situation we are now because capitalism is failing us, that doesn't mean socialism is the answer either it's simply trying to look at the entire system we have and make it better rather than destroying it. The very notion of 'equal' is offensive to some, mainly people who have wealth and think the scroungers in society are coming to take what they have what has now become the 'eat the rich' mentality which is also a demonstrable idea that suggest anyone who has wealth hates the poor. What I think those who are poor and those who are rich should agree on is that this world simply can not be equal when there is a certain level of wealth that is obscene and can only exist because there are still laws that protect them, many billionaires don't even pay taxes on their income and when almost the entire population of people who have barely anything to their name have to pay taxes we all have to acknowledge that is simply not a fair and just system.
@RisiCheshire
@RisiCheshire Год назад
Best interview I've seen in a while
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 Год назад
Which will make precisely no difference to anything.
@5hif7yx86
@5hif7yx86 10 месяцев назад
Daniel Chandler's book is one of the best ive read this year. Hes a brilliant mind and should really be in charge somewhere within our government.
@leonsdebnath
@leonsdebnath Год назад
Love the content, but I beg you please to spend more time on your sound engineering! Levels between host and guest were distinctly different and your extremely enigmatic guest kept clipping when he was excited.
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond Год назад
Seriously, I am sure the young man has had very deep thoughts and put them all into a well written book. For the umpteenth time. Nothing of this is even remotely new. Why does every generation have to discover these conclusions again and again and again, like every 10 years?
@hkatsonga
@hkatsonga Год назад
I’d love private school to be abolished. However, talented intelligent children would still need to be nurtured to achieve their full potential as much as those at the bottom of the class AND there-in lies why we are forced to pay for a private primary where we feel our child is being pushed to their limit. There are a mixture of abilities even within a private school and teachers assign more or less work depending on ability. However, I doubt private school abolition would be the greater leveller people think it’d be. Lots of private school parents forego saving to afford it and it’s abolition would allow them to save more and give their children a bigger leg up in buying a property etc - Also, with the abolition of private school the government would now have to fund more pupils, where would this extra money come from? Or would the already limited school resources be stretched over even more people? Interesting discussion but left more questions than answers for me.
@martinb101
@martinb101 Год назад
all good points
@misunderstood5361
@misunderstood5361 Год назад
Private schools SHOULD NOT BE ABOLISHED
@seancameron149
@seancameron149 Год назад
YES! LONG LIVE PRIVATE EDUCATION!
@LawrieAndCo
@LawrieAndCo Год назад
I was hoping someone would sum up the reasons to keep them. Thanks dude!
@TheBarnster75
@TheBarnster75 Год назад
Would be interesting to know the proportion of children in the UK that go to private school compared to other European countries.
@LambsyLamb
@LambsyLamb Год назад
@@lartydanceoff369 Thanks, I wanted to find out how many Albanians are washing up on our shores via those dinghies. Someone said most of the dinghies are Albanians, which I think is nonsense! An Albanian can get a plane or a train or a ferry and not put their life in jeopardy whereas someone from Afghanistan or Syria or any number of African nations cannot! Eritrea is a good example! I personally believe genuine cases of asylum should be granted only to those fleeing danger. The media and many politicians are painting all asylum seekers as fakers only wanting to come to the UK and screw us over. We reap what we sow! To be overly critical and xenophobic is only going to come back and bite us in the behind! You can't have a happy population based on anger, it simply doesn't work!
@kappaslapper14
@kappaslapper14 Год назад
Well I know a lot of foreign students go to our private schools .
@BiggusDiggusable
@BiggusDiggusable Год назад
Private school is illegal in Finland.
@tomjones8715
@tomjones8715 Год назад
@@BiggusDiggusablebang on! Drag everyone down to the same level!
@BiggusDiggusable
@BiggusDiggusable Год назад
@@tomjones8715 lol!!!! Finnish education is among the best in the world, you dopey pillock!
@henman09
@henman09 Год назад
You have to treat workers as equal members of society. You have to give them the self-esteem which they can only have if they acquire responsibility. Then you will be able to ask the trade unions to behave and to abstain from those idiotic policies. Then they will accept some guidance from outsiders-from the government or the party or whatever it is. But as long as you maintain the damned class-ridden society of yours you will never get out of your mess. - Helmut Schmidt, Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany.
@fredatlas4396
@fredatlas4396 Год назад
What idiot policies, do you mean fighting for workers rights, health & safety in the work place, fighting for fair pay for your work etc
@rob-c.
@rob-c. Год назад
@@unknown_name_389 Would you prefer teachers and junior doctors become hedge fund managers instead - where will you go for your education and healthcare?
@aasphaltmueller5178
@aasphaltmueller5178 Год назад
@left_blank idiotic anglossphere thinking; like doctors were informed on 35 % wage loss in real terms - or a lot of people actually would have such a freedom of decision.
@thomasdavis805
@thomasdavis805 Год назад
​@@unknown_name_389 "they need to accept they are responsible for their crap life" - are you saying that "workers" are SOLEY responsible "for their crap life"?
@thomasdavis805
@thomasdavis805 Год назад
​@@unknown_name_389 Are you speaking from personal experience? I'd really like to know how to improve my crap life - I don't have qualifications to "get a better job", I work 50 hrs/week minimum wage so can't study part-time, and can't move because I support my elderly parents in the area I'm living in. Can you help me?
@PhilosophicalZombieHunter
@PhilosophicalZombieHunter Год назад
Fortunately, we have achieved equality. Our long-term economic growth is 0.3% per year, meaning everyone is getting pretty much the same as they have gotten before.
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 Год назад
Just one problem- the majority of people in the UK don't care about inequality. They used to but that time has long since gone. It will not change and there is not much point in trying to help the victims of it because mostly they simply do not care. That is why the Tories have been in power for all but 30 of the last 123 years and the Labour Party has surrendered to neoliberalism and speaks with forked tongue. It's over.
@perambulate1
@perambulate1 10 месяцев назад
The problem with primary schools is that some teachers do not have enought passion for the subjects they are teaching. They may not even think they should need to inspire the students. How will banning private schools solve this problem? I gather that the graduates of Eton are government ministers and movie stars because they more or less start university at Eton. All the instructors at Eton could be university professors. I think some luckier students in America have a US civil war reenactor history teacher. Those teachers passion for history that leads them to join the US civil war reenactment communities may be somewhat infectious in a high school classroom.
@wv9529
@wv9529 7 месяцев назад
The voucher idea is EXCEPTIONAL! woah simple and beautiful.
@johnmcgrath6192
@johnmcgrath6192 Год назад
Excellent discussion. TY.
@MaisieSqueak
@MaisieSqueak Год назад
Looking forward to watching this... I believe it is not hyperbole to say we are oppressed. And in the worst, gas lit, way imaginable. It is vital we either get them out in the next election or fight back, in a very real sense, should we lose.
@cid7427
@cid7427 Год назад
Yea you are psychologically abused into hating yourself, your people, your nation, your ancestors and everything they stood for. Hence why you are a 30 plus year old childless cat lady take anti depressants.
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 Год назад
Makes no difference while Labour remains the prisoner of the neoliberal right. They have no intention of changing society .
@leel9186
@leel9186 Год назад
"Politically Homeless" - what a great expression. For me, it is standardized Education that is the issue. We expect kids to fit into an increasingly narrow system instead of tailoring the system to the kids.
@kappaslapper14
@kappaslapper14 Год назад
If people have great wealth then they have great choice , taking away private education just means all those kids will go to other countries to continue their privileged education thus solving nothing .
@ltmund
@ltmund Год назад
Capitalism has given the world many positive things. However, for essential services it continues to fall over, sometimes spectacularly. Essential services should, imo, be nationalised to ensure fair access to all. Keep Capitalism for everything else where it thrives.
@fredatlas4396
@fredatlas4396 Год назад
In 1977, Wolff published understanding Rawls: A critique and Reconstruction of a Theory of Justice. Wolff concluded that Rawls project amounted to a form of apology for the status quo, as according to Wolff, markets and capitalist social relations are founded on exploitation & injustice, and Rawls did not give arguments to defend his theory from these charges.. It seems like Rawls was a right winger a so called neo liberal
@adamisherwood6708
@adamisherwood6708 Год назад
Very interesting ideas for proportional representation. I’m going to get his book.
@Dimona_UK
@Dimona_UK Год назад
First past the post is the system of ‘big tent’ parties… proportional rep. Is how you get authentic parties…
@hardflip2lateflip
@hardflip2lateflip Год назад
Well played on both sides lovely job 👌
@TomDonald
@TomDonald Год назад
I have a few questions, in case Daniel Chandler ever reads this. I really enjoyed this interview because I'm tired of the left/right wing dinosaur narrative, and there are more important details we need to think about in the 21st century. I have a few questions though..... It would be lovely to click our fingers and have only socially cohesive public schools in Britain. But how can this actually be achieved? What about communities that value religious education, from the Jewish, Muslim, and Catholic communities which would demand their institutions, or independent schools that value certain styles of learning, or niches in education. Is there still room for them in a diverse free society, seeing we are far more multicultural than Finland. And wouldn't prosperous postcodes still be at a massive advantage? And the UK economy is largely influenced by big education private institutions that are internationally renowned. How do we phase them out of our economy without creating long-term damage and becoming more isolationist? (The Scandinavian countries are smaller and can afford to be more Isolationist) 2nd question, the democracy voucher idea sounds great. But wouldn't that be creating more "elections" and activism and more popular slogans? Do donors really influence our votes, whilst I have no doubt that propaganda affects people, won't this just create more propaganda with a whole bunch of fringe parties vying for "votes" in the form of funding via taxpayers' expense when it could be spent on national services? 3rd question 23:00 - University. In recent years, it's been shown that Universities in many areas of the industry have not been proven cost-effective for many careers (obviously not traditional jobs such as Doctors, Surgeons, etc) but in the Arts, Creative, Advertising, New Business, New Entrepreneurship, New services economy, where the next generation of successful services have succeeded without University training or training at a world known University. Are we too attached to this idea that University means economic prosperity, when it may be more accurate to say expensive universities reflect the wealthy in our society? 4th Question. At 10:35 You say that First Past the Post means that politicians only focus on marginal seats and marginal issues, but in Australia where I grew up, which has PR representation we are still a two-party system and still have exactly the same problem with politicians focusing only on marginal seats, with safe seats being ignored. Is this really more of a problem of the electorate area system instead of PR versus FPP? It feels like from my experience in both countries PR is only marginally better, though still clearly better!
@1234321mike1234321
@1234321mike1234321 Год назад
Wicked interview as usual BUT! PLEASE sort out your audio. Host mic has weird stereo dropout issues and guest mic clips constantly on higher input. Have noticed this on a lot of videos and it's quite straightforward gain structuring that's required :)
@SquiffleNoses
@SquiffleNoses Год назад
Rawls' thought experiment was based on the idea of minds of pure REASON and didn't account for the fact that minds are embodied, and reason is evolved in meat processes: We are risk takers and gamblers, users of quick shortcuts, gut instincts and rules of thumb... most of us would plump for some people to be a little better off, so that we have a chance of being THOSE people. (Also, some of us are born in rich countries with great genes.. so even if we have the same resources we will still accrue better lives.) Rawls was a utopianist and he was wrong. In a working democracy some people will always be disenfranchised.... but the situation in a healthy democracy will always be fluid and subject to change.
@WarrenPeaceOG
@WarrenPeaceOG Год назад
I think you are confusing scale. We have a problem with gross inequality: 0.01% in wealth distribution dominating 99.99%. You are talking about having a nicer house and car, and being slightly better off. Solving the problem of multi-billionaires does not mean getting rid of millionaires
@therealtea9786
@therealtea9786 Год назад
Not the guy who has paid into the pot that is meant to support the Democracy u Rick & if yo genes is so great why u trying to steal mine?
@AA-hg5fk
@AA-hg5fk Год назад
Whilst I can't stand first past the post and voted yes to AV, I do understand why we have it. A lot of people aren't interested in politics to any significant degree and if they bother to vote at all (turnout 67% in 2019 general election) they don't want to have to rank candidates (parties) in order of preference, the average voter doesn't know enough about the differences between the parties to do this.
@lunaangeleclipse9745
@lunaangeleclipse9745 Год назад
The ranking in AV is optional though
@larrygerry985
@larrygerry985 Год назад
Abolish private schools and see inequality not change.
@mcgilcol
@mcgilcol 5 месяцев назад
The Universal Basic Income is problematic in ways that could be achieved better via a National Job Guarantee (in Canada or the US we would say Federal, but as the UK is a unitary state that term has no meaning -- the point is that it must be operated by the currency issuing level of government). It simultaneously solves the issues of social dignity while remaining "targeted" (insofar as participation is voluntary) and providing a de facto minimum wage and set of working conditions. It also has the added benefits of being counter cyclical while also providing a price anchor where inflation is concerned. As for reform of "liberal democracy" sure -- but if you don't reform it properly, it WILL be replaced by something else, for better or for worse ...
@moshemankoff7488
@moshemankoff7488 Год назад
Thanks!
@mauranolan843
@mauranolan843 Год назад
Ollie great interview as usual❤ .
@EdwardPike
@EdwardPike Год назад
The Iron Triangle: freedom, equality, sustainability.
@jakehyams8659
@jakehyams8659 Год назад
Private pools have to go too while we're at it
@juliewake4585
@juliewake4585 Год назад
This makes so much sense: unfortunately those who rule us are running completely in the wrong direction.
@JamesSmyllie1
@JamesSmyllie1 Год назад
Private schools are only available to foreigners in Singapore
@joejanota707
@joejanota707 Год назад
I think a missing component here is more emphasis on the quality and structure of education in the UK as a whole. We need to start encouraging autonomous learning and effective research from day one. Teach a person how to learn, before bashing them with specific information you want them to retain. Everyone learns in a different way, so encouraging pupils to understand how they learn as an individual will ultimately give them the tools to learn everything they deem useful and relevant. Interest is required. More importantly, support in learning about their interests, is crucial for the development of the topic of interest as a whole.
@SquiffleNoses
@SquiffleNoses Год назад
If you insist on sharing the wealth you prevent those who generate wealth from gaining by their added value, thus disincentivizing them to do so, and making everybody worse off. The answer is to cap EXTREME wealth and profits. Extreme wealth and extreme poverty should be seen as equally disgusting if you wish to achieve a realistic level of equality AND democracy.
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 10 месяцев назад
Short sighted on the schools. First of all, the UK shouldn’t look at Finland which is not a diverse nation. I think what would happen in the UK if private schools were abolished would be that the wealthy find other ways to get advantages for their children. It’s not because they are evil, it’s because they are parents. Second, the stakes of cultural and political curricula would become too high inflaming already contentious debates and causing all sorts of unintended consequences that likely didn’t happen in Finland because they are more united in many ways.
@BigBoiiLeem
@BigBoiiLeem Год назад
I have a slight problem with the idea of banning private schools altogether. By all means, stop using taxpayer funds to subsidise them, the whole point of private school is you're paying your own way., you shouldn't get help. However, as a person who was bullied mercilessly in public school, and who knew many other people who struggled in traditional schooling, I can say with certainty that the private high school I went to saved me. Normal public education will work for the majority, and they'll be able to work their way through without excess support, but some people just need more attention and more help. They need the smaller class sizes and higher number of teachers and aides that private schools can afford. Unfortunately, that kind of support doesn't come cheap, and I think it would be unreasonable to ask public schools to pick up that strain, and stretch their already limited resources even further.
@col.hertford9855
@col.hertford9855 Год назад
Public schools are just a way of reinforcing the class/wealth divide. It would be better of the rich to meet the poor at some point in there life. They might learn a little empathy.
@BigBoiiLeem
@BigBoiiLeem Год назад
@Col.Hertford I totally get where you're coming from, but my point is it's not just rich people who use and sometimes rely on private schools. My family isn't rich by any means, and most of my classmates came from similar economic circumstances. We even had dozens of kids who weren't paying fees because their parents couldn't afford it, but our principal wanted the kids to stay on. There's something to be said for reforming education, but one of those reforms shouldn't be to abolish private schooling entirely. It wouldn't actually fix all that much and would create headaches for many people, and not just the affluent or well-off.
@dominicreid4gg.90
@dominicreid4gg.90 Год назад
Private schools aren’t subsidised they are funded from the tuition fees. They have charity status so there’s no VAT on fees - this is what he means by subsidies. It’s good for middle class families who would otherwise not be able to afford it.
@BigBoiiLeem
@BigBoiiLeem Год назад
@Dominic Reid4 gg. Well, surely removing their tax-free status would be better than abolishing them outright. Then noone would be able to use them.
@dominicreid4gg.90
@dominicreid4gg.90 Год назад
@@BigBoiiLeem only the wealthiest would be able to use it making them even more exclusive which goes against what public/independent schools were created for.
@BebsDotter
@BebsDotter Год назад
It’s not just 2 parties, or 2 opposing parties, it’s 2 identical parties!!!
@josephturner7569
@josephturner7569 Год назад
And Public schools.
@anthonydecastro6938
@anthonydecastro6938 Год назад
ahhh, but private religious schools, what about them, when the state seems officially (and religiously) atheist? democratic but abolishing private schools, particularly religious schools???
@fractale4322
@fractale4322 Год назад
I went to a grammar school and I am all for shutting them down. The vast majority of students there are wealthy enough that they would have been sent to a private school had they failed their tests!
@williamwelch1950
@williamwelch1950 Год назад
I came from a working class family and went to a state Grammar School. It set me on a path for a successful career and a good life.I never cease to be grateful.
@tomnorton7817
@tomnorton7817 Год назад
@@williamwelch1950 hear hear. Grammar schools are not so easy to dismiss for me. It provided me (without me knowing as a child) an opportunity for social mobility In an ideal world though you want those who are academically gifted to be suitable challenged at any school
@mostlytranslucent
@mostlytranslucent Год назад
None of his goals for society are bad, but he talks in an idealistic manner, typical of the seminar room or the academic popular monograph. We actually live in states that ruthlessly defend ruling class interests via the media, courts, the electoral process and the cops. Governments, for decades, have not accepted popular demand for the reforms Chandler specifies, because it will not benefit them in the short term to redirect wealth from capital accumulation to working and/or emiserated people. His comments on Scheidel illustrate the naivete of this technocratic populism. Faced with the real costs of social change, our man just waffles about the power of big ideas and the need to fight pessimism. How fatuous.
@johnmcgrath6192
@johnmcgrath6192 Год назад
One aspect of Rawls thinking was to develop a concept of justice and fairness without a religious or otherwordly basis. That is, evolving strictly from human society.
@JeremyCobb
@JeremyCobb Год назад
Ordered that book
@johnmcgrath6192
@johnmcgrath6192 Год назад
In DC USA there is a saying, "Lean to the Green." Green meaning money (green is the color of dollars). The saying means, "Do what your big donors want." Elected officials spend almost all their time begging for money in the USA's never ending election campaign cycles. Corporate lobbyists write the laws that govern their industries. The elected officials seldom read the laws they pass.Meanwhile the Republcians, the party of the wealthy, deliberately fcouses on the rather dumb culture wars. And teh Dems often abandon economic issues in favor of priortizing identity issues. In the USA we do not have an "every vote counts" system. The Senate and the Electoral College are designed for minority rule. California's 2 senators are outnunmbner by teh 8 senators from conservative states which, together, only equal California's population.
@andrewharpin6749
@andrewharpin6749 Год назад
As much as I like UBI as a concept, it cannot work in a Capitalist society! The market will inflate to negate the benefits, you would need price regulation for it to be effective, but especially in the UK, where we import a lot of goods and have no control of the market outside of our country.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 Год назад
There won't be a middle class & upper class private sector because it far left communism , how is anyone going to keep there properties when taxes too high
@markwith140
@markwith140 9 месяцев назад
There are a wide range of issues that people need to consider, but with only two parties I have a feeling that people only have the option to vote for a more right wing thinking or a more left wing thinking. Then whoever wins then states that they have a mandate to implement policies that people did necessarily agree with because it is impossible to vote on the nuance. Couple that with the first past the post electoral system and it effectively means that my vote is worthless. What we have is the perception of democracy, not real democracy.
@stevefrancis4949
@stevefrancis4949 Год назад
Why does no-one think about bring back grammar and secondary modern school. If your academically minded no matter where your from you go to a grammar school evidence being more poor people went Oxford and Cambridge universities when we had grammar schools
@thecrankster
@thecrankster Год назад
30% of Spanish students go to private schools. 20% of French, 35% of Australian, 7% of German. It's not about private schools.
@Tr1ckady
@Tr1ckady Год назад
Really interesting watch. Thanks
@lagringa7518
@lagringa7518 Год назад
The problem with logical thinking is that Klaus et al have far different goals than fair and equal ideas for the human race.
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