WOW!! It does take it almost to perfection!! May be just my ears....40+ years of performing at JET ENGINE LEVELS...I would add just a TINY TOUCH more Gain. Again, probably my ears and just my opinion....which doesn't mean squat!!! Great Demo and thank you for doing it!! R.I.P. Eddie. He will be missed for eternity. 🤘😇🤘
Got to Sub any channel that plays the Holy Grail on such a level. The more I review the works of EVH the more convinced I am of his enduring greatness. I grew up on and with the music in the greatest era. I took it for granted to many years. The more I revisit it the more in awe I am of the band and the man known as EVH. The most powerful initials music may ever see.
I own this! It's from the early 80s. It works and I like it. Currently I'm not using it because I don't have an electric guitar. UGH! Someone - no names here - made a video that sang the praises of it and the prices shot up. There's not many on the market currently. You just have to keep an eye out.
I was Jack Bruce's tech in Spectrum Road and on his Hartke amps he used the exact same EQ curve on the graphic.and had a punch that reminds of this, so I'd say it's likely that Eddie did that, too... I've met Eddie a couple of times but unfortunately never talked shop...
@Teddy Davis I'm really curious if, by chance, you are related to an old friend of mine in the Memphis, TN area. The late and great Buddy Davis? Looking at your picture, the 2 of you could be identical twins. We used to work together at GC in Memphis before I got transferred to manage the store in my area...I'm no longer with GC. I saw your reply under mine, saw your picture and about hit the floor. He was probably 1 of the top 5 players in the Memphis area and it broke my heart when I found out he had passed. I swear y'all could be twins. Sorry to bother you if you are not. Take care.
great demo. you are 100% correct. at first, it sounds like it's the right sound without the pedal. but then once the pedal is on, you realize the graphic eq was definitely part of the sound, and it sounds not-quite-there without the pedal. i like both sounds, with and without the pedal. but with the pedal is definitely more authentic.
Thank you, Jake! I was able to figure this out for my Pod Go - it's got the 10 band. Pro tip for the 10 band: -1 -1 +2 +4 +6 +6 +4 +2 -1 -1 It makes the perfect frowny face, and I based it off a screen shot of Ed's old Boss GC-10.
Badassery. Great tone but what’s better is you put your own flavor to Eddie’s licks. Most people don’t get the touch part that made Eddie so extraordinary
I use a Digitech RP3 preamp for my VH tone, always cranked the EQ to simulate a cranked Marshall, Maybe I should get one of these to fully get there!!!
Fun fact: Tom Scholtz uses the 'frowny face' EQ pattern almost exclusively on his guitar tones for the Boston records. You wouldn't think it given the sonic clarity of the albums but it is how he fit his saturated guitar perfectly in the overall mix.
I own a couple of Boss GE 10's and I can tell you that Ed definitely used them to shape his tone! Especially Van Halen II, the ge10 is all over that album, you cannot get that huge tone without it. The growling lows and sparkling highs, took me a few years to figure this out. Kept trying to get that tone plugging straight into a super lead and it just can't be done! If you listen to Van Halen 2 closely you can hear the solid-state quality in the tone. They are a great EQ don't understand to this day why boss quit making them,cost i guess. The u.s. voltage ones are hard to find, the 100 volt Japanese ones are fairly easy to find but they are pricey but worth it. Tons of clean boost!
@@theonlysil2375 he uses it on eruption for sure due to the Univox EC80 and it’s poor impedance. He started using the Boss GE10 after they toured Japan. It’s possible he used it on VH2 but I tend to think he used a different pickup, different speakers and either used the 50w or pulled tubes from the 100w. There’s a Steve Rosen interview with Eddie during recording of VH2 where Ed briefly mentions using a ‘low powered amp’ to record with. Possibly referencing his 50w or pulling two tubes.
After watching this and your previous VH Jackman sound video I have to say you're pretty close but the thing missing is a very loud amp and the natural sustain you get from playing that loud a la Dave Gilmour. My J2 arrived today and I'm very impressed but OD channel all the way up didn't work for me but I've only used it for about an hour. Never owned a JCM800 but I did buy a 1978 master volume 100W for 35 quid in the early 90's, people just changed valves and never biased the amps .. Pre amp distortion too fizzy but output valve distortion when you could play it that loud awesome! ( you can remove 2 valves ( 1 from each side) and change impedance to run at 50W.) My J2 I just wish the clean channel would overdrive as much as my last Marshall in the UK did, a DSL401 combo, for the classic rock rhythm as I'm not a pedal person for overdrive, I live in Asia now and over Lazada you can buy a distortion pedal for under $10 with mechanical bypass including postage and it sounds ok. Do the utube and look for KOKKO FDS2, might buy one myself to just push the clean sound for Free/Bad Company rhythm.
That... is cool! Interesting, it not only boosts the mids but cuts the bass and treble, sounds like the bass is being cut more. With the EQ it takes the flubbiness (a word?) away. Just improves the sound.
He stated in early interviews he had the EQ pedal to help compensate for differences between his guitars, mainly the destroyer (before he "sharked" it) and the Frankenstrat. The destroyer was his main guitar before the Frankenstrat was completed, and based on my own experience trying to build a superstructure, my guess is the EQ was set to add a slightly thicker tone to the Frankenstrat as opposed to thinning out the destroyer.
I got the jackman 2 and the zombie 2, I play them both through seperate 4x12 marshall code 412 cabinets, using a a/b/y splitter to send the guitar signal to both amps. The built in distortion channel on these amps are great, the jackman gives me a jcm sound, and the zombie gives me a mesa boogie rectifier sound. Dont be fooled by their size or 20w rating, these amps are loud as hell. I put my valve heads away and use these nowerdays, that's how much they impressed me.
He only used the MXR 6 band on eruption on VH1 and guitars with low output live. The MXR adds almost too much distortion through a cranked Marshall. The Boss GE10 is much cleaner but he didn’t get those until after VH1 when they toured Japan. The key to his sound and the changes he had through classic era is Plexi, EP3 and pickups. He used EQ early on to drive long cables, the EC80 delay with poor impedance or certain guitars. I don’t think the EQ is his secret, his tone is a lot less gainy than most people think.
Well stated, I agree! I will bet what happened is, Ed went in to Sunset Sound to record VH1 without an EQ. Then at some point, either immediately at the mix desk to post production, EQ is added. Ed goes, "WOW, I really like that!" And then sometime later he gets himself an EQ, likely around the time of Japan as you mentioned.
@@freegee3503 I think VH1 was mostly exactly how they played live, and Ed had those MXR EQs already. He definitely used the EQ live and in studio for eruption, possibly for Im The One. By VH2 he had purchased the Boss EQs, hence the cleaner sound from then on.
He never used an EQ live outside the controls on his amp, which I recall also had a push in the mids. EQ pedals in general are great for clean boost, it's the first pedal in the signal chain on my board and its the only boost I use with a high gain amp like a 6505 or Boogie Rectifier. It goes EQ into Crybaby into front of the amp. I leave everything else in the FX loop. In the studio the producers used EQ on every track and I think you nailed the curve with the mids being pushed.
Yeah, you got super close. A 5150 iconic through a marshalll 425A cab (any quality speaker plus eq really) sounds super close, eq and speakers definitely make a major difference. I dig your vids, stay dope! Also, thank you!
Great VH SOUND .. Jake ..in the PEDALBOARD ORDER WHERE DO I THE BOSS G7 ? AFTER DISTORTION PEDAL OR IN FRONT THE DISTORTION PEDAL? THANKS FOR YOUR HELP CHRIS FROM AUSTRIA!🤟😎🤟⚡⚡⚡
Hey Jake. Great video, insight, tone, and playing (as always👍) Kinda Off-topic question here. On the joyo jackman - have you opened it up and had a look inside? On mine there are four little orange trim-pot type things, any idea what these are and what adjusting them might do ?
Thank you for the awesome video. I do use a Marshall DSL 40CST with a Celestion Greenback Speaker that I bought new from Sweetwater. If you also want to have the Marshall Plexi sound try using a Boss Powerstak ST 2 pedal.
We can't forget the variac also can't forget the EQ on the mixing board. We'll never know the truth about that but certainly it played a part. Having said that, when you triggered the Boss EQ it certainly sounded closer.
whats funny is i remember ed saying somewhere that he cuts the mids out, that he hated mids. but like you, evertime i cut the highs a bit and add more mids i get much closer.
Nice tone, but before his Peavy line came out EVH brown sound was from a lower voltage going through a cranked Marshall. There are videos of him out there stating this.
Well when everything is on 10, you need to get your EQ somewhere? I think that is the curve he went for, maybe just pushed up a bit. What cab were you running the Joyo into? Know any amps that do the Super Lead? I have a Princeton so I need to get a new amp or use a plexi style overdrive. Been looking at a few Marshall in a box pedals. I also have the Velvet fuzz which is supposed to emulate a driven Plexi with a fuzz, it can get you there on the tight setting with the fuzz at noon or lower and on the "tight" setting.
@@jaketanis3069 Thank you. Been a long time since I heard Feel your love tonight. Sounded awesome. Brought back some great memories. PEACE from Philadelphia
I realize he lied a lot but he said in the interviews he had the guitar doing what it was supposed to do. But in the beginning I think he didn’t use it. Great video sounds great
I've used a MXR 10 band GEQ for years with great success. I have one also and specifically for a certain amp - Genz Benz El Diablo 100 head and it is the secret recipe for that amp, as folks already have a hard time dialing it in becuase of the "active" EQ of the amp. The MXR tames all the harsh frequencies that make it difficult to control... So yes, I think you may be on to something here... Nice job and thx for the video! ✌🏼
HI JAKE, CAN I USE THE BOSS GT1 MULTPEDAL IN THE FX LOOP OF THE JACKMANN.. ONLY FOR DELAY AND REVERB!!!??? THANKS SO MUCH AND REGARDS FROM AUSTRIA CHRIS
Its been awhile back when you posted about the pitch box as I bought one after seeing your video on it. How would that pedal work with this one and can you do a video of that , if it would work.
Ed started using a Harmonizer around Fair Warning I believe. If I remember correctly from old articles, he ran a line out of his main amp, went into the stereo harmonizer, then into two power amps and two speaker cabinets. He set the harmonizer about 3 cents sharp on one side and 3 cents flat on the other side. You can get a very similar sound with a Boss PS6 in Detune mode. If you run mono, there are -5 cents and +5 cents settings, and play with the Balance knob to get a desired mix of wet/dry sound. If you run stereo, there is a setting with -5 on one side and +5 on the other. Also very importantly, in a “normal” rig, this has to be done after distortion into a clean amp or in an effects loop if you use the amp gain. Unless you have three amps and do the wet/dry/wet setup like Ed did, and the two wet amps for the harmonizer are clean.
I have a different opinion...I "Thought" like most Guitarists,That the Magic was a MidRange BOOST, But from foolin' around... I saw/Heard the best tone was in a Mid CUT, I never used any EQ I use my Marshall for that (I'm not saying exactly how I do this) BUT will say, I turn my bass and treble all he way up and slap that MIDRANGE all the way off, With a few tricks in between.Makes it more ...Transparent"
I hear the difference and it sounds much closer with the EQ but don’t think it’s quite “strong enough”. Maybe add an EP booster in there? Still good take on it tho 🤘🤘🤘
I think there's an interview of Eddie where he says he'd turn all of the amp EQ knobs to 10. So I guess he'd do that with an EQ plugged into the amp? could he have dialed back some of the knobs to get a similar tone or is there more to it?
Somebody gave me that EQ cos it was lyingh around uselessly. Playing around with it - its warmer and more natural sounding than the ge7 which i also own. They really are rather different, frequences aside ….
