It's so cool to see U.K playing the classic 1974 Red material, John Wetton is as good as i've ever heard him, his vocals and bass playing are on top form, Marco Minnemann does a great job playing the Bruford drum parts while Alex Machacek remains faithful to the Robert Fripp guitar work but still sounding like himself and Eddie Jobson sounds fantastic as always. This is what King Crimson would have probably sounded like if Jobson was a member and if it did happen, it would have been brilliant, this for me is a nice treat seeing him doing a great job at having a crack at the 'one more red nightmare' track. Excellent performance from 4 masters.
Brudord was a Master, and this excellent drummer is just competent, this quite is a caricature for musicality,, too much technique demonstration, the groove is without elegance and the guitar solo is so…normal
Eddie's a brilliant musician both a keyboard wiz and a violinist virtuoso. He is undoubtedly underrated and under appreciated. Too bad he retired. Just when he finally got back to touring again
Love the orginal version, but I gotta say, Kudos for this one! What the hell is the Fella with the violin?! Holy Shit! So badass standing there, all in black, quiet as a grave, no facial expression and those lights reflecting on the violin! C'mon! That's a whole new level of badassery! The last time a solo (or solos in this case) gave me goosebumps was on Allan Holdsworth performing White Line in 1984 and Shawn Lane playing To Get you Back live!
That's Eddie Jobson, considered the top rock violinist in the world and the only violinist inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame. EJ is so cool, and a musical genius by any standard! Been a fan of his for many years, check out his piano improvisations.
@@artrock5741 Wait, he's considered to be better than Jerry Goodman??? Jerry Goodman!!!??? Or is Goodman considered to be a jazz violinist? I will say Jobson's form is impeccable.
@@BernieBrownEyesWhere are you getting all of this? Do you mean you think Wetton wrote the lyric to One More Red Nightmare? Cause I'd bet money that's not true. Richard Palmer-James wrote the lyrics to all the stuff on Larks' Tongues and Starless & Bible Black, so I don't know why Wetton would have written this.
Saw Eddie for the first time around 1974(?) playing in a very good but now probably totally forgotten band called Fat Grapple at a tiny club near the fire station in St Albans. I felt at the time that he was destined for greater things, and I was right. This must have been a great gig. RIP John Wetton.
He was one of five writers of Starless. Richard Palmer-James wrote the lyrics and Fripp probably wrote the theme - so not sure what Wetton contributed; probably the vocal melody.
@@artrock5741 The original chords and melody for "Starless" were written by John Wetton, who intended the song to be the title track of the group's previous album Starless and Bible Black. Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford initially disliked the song and declined to record it. The song was altered and edited later but its conception was Wetton's, I believe, and you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.
Terrific version of a terrific song from a terrific record! This is I guess how OMRN would have sounded if it had been on Larks Tongues In Aspic instead of Red...
Considering John was a recovering alcoholic at the time he passed, I doubt he'd be having a beer. I'd like to think they'd be having the biggest badass prog jam session ever
Not to late. I am 62 and recently retired and my wife let me put my music studio in our living room. I bought a Moog Matriarch and added it to my keyboard collection with my Roland HS-60, Yamaha DSR2000, Yamaha PSR70, Yamaha PSR36, my Roland S10 sampler, my Casio DG-20 digital guitar with Boss ME-80 pedal, my multiple harmonicas (Lee Oscar) and my LP latin percussion section! I am not very good, but I have massive fun! It is never to late. Take your savings and buy an electric violin with an awesome guitar pedal and have fun. Music is fun.
Superb. I saw UK at the U of I in Champaign-Urbana in 1978 and I believe the late great Greg Lake was touring with them. Always nice to hear the "old masters."
Marco was great, as always. His playing reminded me of Pat M. John was in fine form, and the guitarist (I don't recognise) played selflessly like a pro. It's weird that Eddie isn't discussed more often in "best violinist" and "best keyboardist" conversations, because his soloing on both instruments with UK and Zappa was top-notch, as it is in this track.
Victor Santiago I think Eddie wanted to be a permanent part of King Crimson. He liked working with John Wetton more so than he let on. The look on his face (smile and expression) and the hug at the end of the shows were telling. Though they had their disagreements, face it - they were pure magic together.
Eddie was never an "official" member of KC. He only overdubbed David Cross's violin parts on "20th Century Schizoid Man" on the USA album (after KC had split and Fripp was putting the album together) because the mix was so poor you couldn't hear Cross's original parts. Former KC member Ian McDonald was set to rejoin the band after "Red" was recorded but Fripp broke up the band before that happened.
Filling in for Bruford must be about the toughest gig in the history of everything! But Marco does a bloody job job, and brings a bit of his own colour to the party. Nicely done.
Wetton crosses the lyrics in the last segment. He sings "I heard fortune shouting, 'Get off of this outing!'" when he would typically sing "The prayer had been answered, a reprieve had been granted." I sincerely hope this was not due to his cancer diagnosis. 😭
one thing that both Jobson and Minneman lack is a sense of ...space...there is no reluctance to fill a gap as soon as it appears. Bruford had creative grace...dynamics, angular gaps within fills....and Fripp is / was a master of holding back from playing until you almost beg him to play. I'm not hearing any real tension being allowed to build here...only the release of as many notes as possible.
Very technical. Love Fripp and Brufords work. I enjoyed this version very much also. Eddie Jobson is a really exciting musician and wish I'd seen him live.
You are spot on! Marco played this track well, but lacked finesse, chop creativity, more special affects and proper spacing. But that is the way the majority of drummers, specially rockers and jazz-rock play their set today. It is primarily based on speed, power and linear chops with many notes (double bass, multiple toms, cymbals). I call it the machine gun effect. Very few drummers today take advantage of the differerences in volume, dynamics, spacing, silence, textures, acoustics, resonance. Even in church happens! The other day I visited a church and the drummer, who had great chops, played only in one speed and volume: fast and loud filling every single space.
These musicians...(shaking my head in almost disbelief). But letting off a fart here maybe; I've never been a fan of John Wetton as a bass player or singer but now here he's doing UK (OK!).
What is that sound at the end of the main riff? It"s first heard at 0:07. It's also on the original Crimson recording. I've always thought it was one of Brufords unusual cymbal sounds, but here it's clearly not the drummer who provides it.
On the original Crimson recording, it was Fripp's distorted guitar fed through a wah-wah pedal. On this version, it sounds like a filter sweep like you'd get from an old MiniMoog synthesizer from the 1970s (played by Eddie Jobson, of course). It's a digital emulation most likely as not many keyboard players tote around all that old analog gear, especially when you can get the same sounds from a laptop computer and software
@@haljalykakik2384 It doesn't sound like a guitar to me - and I've worked with all manner of combinations and effects, including the distortion/fuzz wah sound prevalent on the Crimson records of that period.
@hubertvancalenbergh9022 go to this version, where the drums have been stripped off: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9p6n4N7m31w.htmlsi=A5Yx2uGa88eEyT9u Listen from the 2:10 mark. It sounds like a very subtle wah effect on the guitar. I've been playing guitar for over 40 years and have heard (and used) this kind of effect before so I'm pretty familiar with it.
@@haljalykakik2384 Can you perhaps point me to other artists/ tracks where the effect is used? I can't think of a single one. It's a great sound, similar to an angry growl by an aggressive big cat.
I'm not sure about Marco here, I don't think he has the suttlety of Bruford's drumming because he's almost too enthusiastic, which is odd because I love Marco's playing on Necrophagist and Paul Gilbert records.
Bruford got progressively more aggressive during this period, beginning with Red and then on the UK debut. Bruford is incomparable, but Marco can compare. ;-)
Agree. To play Bruford's material ample spacing and changes in volume and dynamics are essential. I saw little of that in Marco's playing. Not bad playing but he turned an iconic drummer's track into a routine display of chops
Red is the best album Crimson ever recorded with Starless & BB the second .. Wasn't promoted didn't sell but if you bought it you were decades ahead of the game. Fripp of course sabotaged the success he's a madman but he facilitated and was essential to this Starless and Larks Tongues his best work. All the rest is filler. With notable building blocks on route to this their pinnacle.
Haga su tarea amigo, fue carl palmer quien grabó las baterías de ese tema en red, cierto es que brufford hizo todos los otros temas, pero palmer fue invitado en la grabación de este tema, aquel entonces.
@@nathaninostroza7655de donde sacás esa "anecdota" hermano. Jamás escuché que fuera grabada por otro además de Bruford, cuyo estilo y sonido es claro y patente para cualquiera con oídos, pero al parecer vos tenés otra data "exclusiva"
@@sebastiancabrol2014 sabes? Ahora que hago yo la tarea, me doy cuenta que estaba en lo erróneo, una vez cuando pequeño ví un vinilo del red y salía carl en los créditos de one more red nightmare, pero claro, las impresiones en español de antes dejaban harto que desear. Vi los créditos antes de responderte y estaba yo en lo equivocado. Claro que es Bruford allí.
