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Edifier STAX Spirit S5 review 

Robbie Khan
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Apologies for the wind noise on the right channel, it's a heatwave here this week and the fan was running!
My Neowin written reviews:
STAX Spirit S5:
www.neowin.net/reviews/review...
STAX Spirit S3:
www.neowin.net/reviews/magnet...
Link to the Alternative A2DP driver for Windows:
www.bluetoothgoodies.com/a2dp/

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25 июн 2024

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@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan День назад
Full written review here: www.neowin.net/reviews/review-edifier-stax-spirit-s5-wireless-closed-back-planar-magnetic-headphones-that-excel/
@woodyssoundup
@woodyssoundup 6 дней назад
I understand why they don’t have ANC but I wish they had the option on these. I traveled a couple times with my S3’s and I had to have them cranked to max to try to drown out airplane sound and I ended up just popping in my AirPod Max’s because it was more comfortable to listen at a more reasonable level with outside noise blocked out than blaring loud and still hearing engine noise. I feel like if headphones are wireless, companies already assume people will use them more for travel so ANC would be nice to have. Not a deal breaker, I’d still love to hear these compared to the S3’s which I’ve owned and loved since release
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 6 дней назад
The passive noise control is the same on these as with the S5 and the max volume appears to be the same too which makes sense since the specs align in this area as well. Would be nice to have ANC I agree!
@woodyssoundup
@woodyssoundup 6 дней назад
@@RobbieKhan thanks for the info! Also, nice review! First I’ve seen on them
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 6 дней назад
The full written review image more info and photos etc too btw, will add the link when it's live by the 10th 👍👍
@mrpurpleman9698
@mrpurpleman9698 3 дня назад
thanks, this is the best review of hps on the entire internet. I don't think you could have got any more simple yet technical while somehow managing to cover all the little things. And its good to see others showing and using the alternativeA2dp Windows software. Shame you could not get LDAC and aptx low latency to work but BT codecs are an pandora's box. These S5s should get better in sound quality once you enable Snapdragon Sound and Lossless codec which the S5 supports but I believe on the S24ultra its currently not fully enabled perhaps? they are very slow to adopt and enable BT codecs.
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 3 дня назад
HI there! Thanks very much and I have some good news, LDAC worked in the end, not sure if it was a setting or Windows itself but it just suddenly started working and now I use just LDAC via the PC on these using the A2DP driver. As for low latency, this will never work sadly as aptX Low Latency CODEC is not supported as part of Snapdragon Sound in this, only aptX Adaptive as confirmed to me by Edifier which I will quote in the full review on neowin on the 10th. The latency is reduced to 87ms or so when using aptX Adaptive, sadly aptX Adaptive isn't supported at all on Windows, and isn't part of the A2DP driver as a result too, only aptX Low Latency is supported by the driver, which the S5 doesn't have! But the flipside is that if I do need to game or use them for synchronised AV then I just plug in either 3.5mm or USB and it continues over wired mode within 1 second so that's all good. The S24 Ultra (and all Galaxy phones) supports LDAC and Samsung's own lossless CODEC for BT audio btw, LDAC works no probs on the S24 Ultra too.
@mrpurpleman9698
@mrpurpleman9698 3 дня назад
​@@RobbieKhan thx for that update, oh yes see LL not supported in the specs. I was about to ask how is the latency since I tend to YT/Netflix more so its more important but its a bit disappointing to hear you need to be wired. I think off the top of my head Snapdragon audio codec may get as low as 20ms, but I am guessing its not working on the 24 ultra yet.
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 3 дня назад
@@mrpurpleman9698 For general videos I found no real issue with sync, it's only in gaming it was most obvious. I watched youtube and some TV shows and was able to watch them fine without noticing any immediate sync issues, though if I paid attention I'd probably be able to tell I guess. aptX LL can get lower from what I read but aptX Adaptive with Snapdragon Sound devices offers 87ms of latency, since the S5 doesn't have aptX LL, it's not going to get any lower than 87ms. On a phone this is fine I guess as the display is much smaller and so on. For large screen gaming then wired is definitely the way to go, and they sound amazing for gaming this way too by the way having played games on them for a bit too.
@mrpurpleman9698
@mrpurpleman9698 2 дня назад
@@RobbieKhan thx again for that detailed answer, glad you mentioned that if you paid attention you may spot it since I have that issue with latency for some reason I can spot it easily. Yes 87ms has been mentioned but its confusing since there are several articles suggesting qualcomm may get it down to 20-30ms via snapdragon codec so am sort off hoping they can, fingers crossed.
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 2 дня назад
@@mrpurpleman9698 I'm not sure if those articles are accurate, as Snapdragon Sound isn't a codec, it is just the name for the suite of tech used to then cover those codecs, like how Nvidia DLSS isn't just upscaling, it covers ray reconstruction, frame gen etc. I think then the individual device makers need to add support and implement anything beyond that blanket cover, so 20-30ms may well be possible, but in this implementation Edifier state it goes down to 87ms whihc makes sense as aptX Adaptive is being use,d not altX LL.
@richardmalone4837
@richardmalone4837 12 дней назад
Nice review,will they be releasing these in the Australian market
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 12 дней назад
They're not out in the West yet but should be I guess once they're on global release!
@ulasklc4539
@ulasklc4539 3 дня назад
Edifier needs to do a 5-6 band eq not 4 and up to 16 khz and with at least 6 db gain not 3.
@Otts287
@Otts287 День назад
But I thought dynamic drivers produce better bass than planar? 🤔
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan День назад
Where did you hear that?
@zehahaha603
@zehahaha603 11 дней назад
I just got my S3 last year @$200, too soon for an upgrade I guess
@komi1834
@komi1834 6 дней назад
S3 is not from the last year, it's from the year before, prices fell down from $400 to like $260 even before S5 came out, great value even compared to wired closed backs
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 6 дней назад
Ah this is a good point, will update the written review to reflect this cheers! I was sent the S3 back in Feb of this year hence thinking it was a 23 release.
@bobbyboyderecords
@bobbyboyderecords 9 дней назад
What's the price?
@bobbyboyderecords
@bobbyboyderecords 9 дней назад
About 300 quid?
@bobbyboyderecords
@bobbyboyderecords 9 дней назад
Ah 250 to 300 quid it seems.
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 9 дней назад
@@bobbyboyderecords Is that the S3 or S5 though? The S5 is more expensive.
@bobbyboyderecords
@bobbyboyderecords 9 дней назад
S5 I'm in China at the moment. That's the retail price at the moment but I have just seen some great deals also on 'B stock' that I may get. B stock price about 200 quid
@RobbieKhan
@RobbieKhan 9 дней назад
@@bobbyboyderecords Ah I see!
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