Learn how to use commas, pal. And something taking courage doesn't make it right. It might take a lot of courage to fly a plane into a building, but I wouldn't celebrate the people who do it.
Teddy Graham There is a big difference, between murdering thousands of people and letting citizens know that thier tax dollars, are going to an agency, that spies on them. Despite what you might think, there is nothing more patriotic, than standing up to your own government, for the very citizens, it claims to serve. Unlike yourself, most citizens don't want to live in an Orwelllian society.
I was actually being helpful earlier. You need to get to grips with how commas are used because you are using them far too much. The issue with what he did is that it compromised sensitive methods which the intelligence services use to safeguard us from deadly threats. It is clear that we knew where the money was going; we simply did not know how it was being used. We have to expect a little bit of discretion as to the disclosure of sensitive information.
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How is he a villain? He clearly did it for selfless, moral reasons. Kennedy said that national security should not be used as an excuse for secrecy and wrong doing.
@@deprogramm i think that the word villain cant correlate with the law. If you take the Holocaust, were you now a villain that you broke the law and never exposed a fellow Jew.,
Dave Polynice very old and very very happy, hopefully. Let’s hope that us too. With the only difference that he won’t ever be truly dead, ‘cos that’s what happens with turly human heros! Long life, Snowden! THANK YOU!
He's such a likable guy. And it's obvious to anyone with a brain that his intentions aren't malicious or even misplaced. He's extremely intelligent, knows what he's talking about and genuinely means it when he says he did what he did for moral reasons. I love my country but I fully support Snowden. He is NOT in the wrong.
How is that bizarre? Literally all organized crime syndicated are very protective and competitive over territory and their organization. Anyone who is a threat to them, they want harmed or killed. I see no difference here. The politicians want to keep their secretive empire in their control. so when some previously unknown person comes to try to destroy the facade of security, they go batshit crazy.
No, he didn't - he illegally leaked 1.5 million documents, most of which had specifics on actual foreign governments like Russia and China, North K, etc. And terrorists, nothing was shown to be wrong-doing, and nothing he didn't seek the appropriate whistleblowing channels.
The only harm he did, was to expose how Obama has not only been spying illegally on his own people, but all his so called "Friends" around the world too. Been 3 years, no one's started WW3. Things continued on as if it was no big deal. The sun didn't explode. The NSA are still tapping into everyone's dirty little lives to get their jollies. Trump - Give this guy his pardon, he's helping drain the swamp. You should hire him too.
It actually hasn't been spying on any US citizens. FAA Section 702 targets non-US persons under investigation for terrorism. Patriot act's section 215 collected bulk meta data - but is not protected under the 4th as it isn't content of any communication, nor are there any personal identifiers. Also, to be requested such BR documents a person must be under investigation.
If justice is served he will get the death penalty. Now i know its not our fault if we dont catch him because hes in Russia feeding them information from the nsa but maybe someday he will be an idiot and come back
Dexter - how am I ignorant for wanting a criminal to get whats coming. Its against the law to steal top secret information from the government. Thats not ignorant thats being American. If we just let this guy go other people will start doing what he did.
@@goodrug688 Yes, what he did was illegal, but he was the one who showed us that our government has violated our right to anonymity. Also, he should not be punished but rewarded. Because in this case, the rules established by our government are not relevant. If you do not recognize that, you are very superficial and that would mean that you are stupid and ignorant.
I would be ok with a law protecting whistleblower like this one when the government was the one breaking the law, but only if the government did something wrong otherwise is treason
OtakuMainer not a bit of data he released caused harm to anyone. If it had those dead soldiers would be paraded as evidence of Snowden's treachery. But not a single assertion to that point has been made, really all the intelligence agencies have said is that it harmed diplomatic relations, which it did, but only cause we were fucking spying on all our goddamned allies. Here: news.vice.com/article/official-reports-on-the-damage-caused-by-edward-snowdens-leaks-are-totally-redacted
Yes it is, according to the criminals anyway. And they are the ones who have most of the power. So if he goes back they will not give him a fair trial. They will find him guilty and lock him up. And very possibly torture him. They probably ideally want him dead. And they want to convince people that he is a traitor and a bad person.
nfcoard They'll find him guilty and lock him up because he's guilty lmao. The reason he doesn't come back isn't because he can't get a fair trial, that's bullshit, it's because he knows he's fucking guilty.
Yeah and the Bible says “The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately Sick, who can understand it?” (jeremiah 17:9). This “Example” is a foolish one and an unwise one to follow then.
Example???? What is the example? Expose every flaw of the US government, move to Russia and help the world's most undemocratic regime INTERFERE IN THE 2016 ELECTION? Is that heroic to you?
lol Edward Snowden stumbled upon morally questionable information and instead of using it as leverage to work alongside intel workers, politicians and businesses, he exposed US intel potential to the world then moved to Russia. That's running away from duty not being a hero. He should have reformed the system, not offer himself to the services of an undemocratic regime. I mean, there's nothing preventing Putin from coercing him into espionage, he would have no option in fact but to be complicit to Putin.
skills1ent The gov has had these spy capabilities even before 9/11 and couldn’t stop it. The gov has had the Patriot Act and emboldened the NSA for domestic spying and yet they can’t stop domestic terrorism. There is no geopolitical reason or domestic security that they are preserving. They are just violating the constitution to overreach with their authority.
skills1ent Being fallacious doesn’t change the fact that the gov spying hasn’t been effective in protecting people (as evident by the mass shooting epidemic) so it’s clearly just used to invade your private life. You can’t have agency if you’re not allowed to live privately. I’m sure you wouldn’t want me to know all your contacts, read all your emails etc., even if everything is innocent simply because I’m some random person you don’t know or trust. So why would you disregard that just because some official gov bureaucrat whose institutions have been mired in corruption?
When was America great? Thank you Snowden. Finally someone points out what's wrong with Trump's slogan. Snowden is a hero to America, he deserves to be pardoned or at the very least, a fair trial.
And the people of the USA can have GUNS to protect them against the government....... LOL NOT. People in the USA only use guns to shoot at themselfs. The GUNS where there to protect from the government. But people don't use them. So weird.
Derka Derka no shit we're still being spied on but without him we wouldn't have known and now if your smart you'll be safe on your phone and online in general.
f budd He had a choice to live other countries, he happen to go to America's enemy, Russia... And that doesn't send any red flags to you? Heroes take it up the ass, not cower.
As Snowden says and as the well-documented record reflects, he DID NOT CHOOSE Russia. He was trapped in a Moscow airport terminal during a flight stopover hoping to find political asylum elsewhere but was refused permission to leave, and after a month in the airport they decided to keep him & offer "temporary" asylum. He had no documents with him once he left the Guardian journalists in Hong Kong. Look into it.
TRAIDOR?Really Kathy Couric? I think you are old enough to know whos doing more damages to the country and the world because you too do not have honesty, transparency nor courage to ask honest questions that come from you but more from your ABC boss who tells you what to say and what not to say.... All of your answers sound more like CIA agent type of interogation because these sound more for government to review-NOT what people really wana ask Snowden Snowden is letting people know what he is doing for the benefit of people. Meanwhile on the other hand, are politicians doing same thing for me and the rest of the people around this globe? God Bless you Snowden. An example of honesty, transparency and courage. Something NO PRESIDENT HAS THEESE QUALITIES ANYMORE
God bless this man. He's trying to get out somewhat out of the matrix and now he's outside the law. Almost a man with nu country But a Hero No Less #Snowden
EDWARD SNOWDEN AND ROBERT - BOBY FISHER ARE ONLY WHITE MEN WHO DO NOT HAVE ANY FEAR AND SPIT IN PUBLIC IN THE FACES OF ULTRA DEGENERATED SYSTEM WHICH THEY MANAGED TO ESCAPE.
but he cant leave Russia until Trump gives him full protection. he better stay in Russia.... and he knows it. because the FSB is not such a shithole like the CIA
I'm from India.I know nothing about America.But when i came across that US is spying on its own people,I was like .... :( But what Edward Snowden has done is the bravest thing no one can ever do. Someone should have guts to do this kind of thing. Edward Snowden is a HERO. I felt very bad when when India rejected the asylum. Anyways what Snowden did is 100% right. God save him. Love and Cheers from INDIA.
I don’t think Edward should be arrested if he comes back to the US. He taught us more than any other computer expert and now we all know to be careful of what we type or post online. Thanks Edward!
I'm a Filipina, and his revelations about the U.S. Gov't violations not only in its people but also other countries made him a hero to the rest of the World.
OK! I'm not an American, but i can definitely understand what being traitor is. Edward is for sure a patriot. Protecting your people is not traitor-ism.
Both legal and right! They didn't obeid by the law the feds, Cia, NSA. they didn't follow rule of land and justice under our US constitution!! fucking A right its America Ed!! and I aint quitting!
I say Snowden did the right thing in his heart, but he had a " duty to protect the citizens under the Constitution!" He did his job above and beyond the Call of Duty
Sounds like St. John chapter 8 verse 40. Now you know why those in power killed the man called Jesus 2000 years ago for telling people the truth about them. Then they took his words, turned them into a watered down version of what he really said, turned it into a religion, and killed all of our minds.
It takes common sense to know what our Government is actually doing. This leak wasn't a surprise. Our Government has done a load of shady things in the past.
yoshihiro watanabe because he leaked how we catch people who do illegal thing. Nobody is looking at a computer and watching what you are doing right now
Yeah, NSA totally not spying on Brazilian Oil company on behalf of private US corporations. Pull your head out of your ass. As for Snowden: He shouldn't be pardoned. There is nothing he should be pardoned for. He should be paid hard cash for what he did.
Because the punishment we may receive is little compared to the positive outcome for our families and children when shining a light on something that is wrong.
Edward Snowden showed me that america might not be great but some americans are seriously man he loved his country not the authority not some president he did this for his countrymen and that is great hats off sir .Respect
bishal thakur if all the real Americans that want to make a better honest future in general were to unite and take on these heathens, it would be beyond revolutionary. Real Americans are smart and have unlimited potential to take one anything
During the Cold-War people outspoken and critics of the USSR and Communism would flee and live for a better life in the United States, how weird the world has become.
CyphaBorg because of the strength and history of America making it the greatest country on earth we should be upset that the greatest country on earth has such severe gray areas
Is it just me? I find him so attractive and I don't mean physically, though he's pretty cute. It's his intelligence and his bravery that I ultimately find most attractive. We need more people like this. He's protecting and enlightening us mere little people. Love him
I wish all top officials read these comments to see how many ppl are actually glad Edward Snowden did this. The ppl aint mad, just the government. Why not please the American ppl?
If this country is a country of democracy, and the right way is still forward, and truth are not lies, then if this is really America, this man would be here not be sitting in Russia, he would be here in America, living, loving, standing not just as a man that is not considered a "criminal" but a man who has more Patriotism then our own President. Mr. Snowden is not here in America right now because we are all not in The Real America. Once the Real U.S.A. steps forward maybe Mr. Snowden can back. If he does not get pardoned for what he did for US the people then that day we will be in The "Real America"
Connor Dunn no, a journalist paraphrased him saying that. he did call him a traitor. and said we needed to get him back(put him in jail) because he embarrassed the US.
Dk Kevorkian He said he should recieve the punishment of a traitor which usually is the death penalty, although he didn't say word for word that he would use the death penalty. Although I don't think Snowden should be pardoned.
They don't have to, under the patriot act they have the discretion to lable anyone a terrorist. Detain them for however long and all of your rights go out the window.
Are you serious? This isn't about whether one president from one party is better than another. This is about the United States government. I don't care whether or not a president is republican, democratic, conservative, etc. In my eyes, they are traitors to the United States for allowing the government to spy on their own people and control our freedoms and privacy without fairness and our representation as the people of the US. Fuck Obama, Fuck Hillary, Fuck Trump. So long as this country continues to run with the corrupt government and the state of the government it has, I will always be against any president, senator, or representative working for the government. Also, I could name many things about Trump and Hillary that equally ruin their names. I think it is quite hypocritical and inaccurate of you to say "People who can't think for themselves and all the weird trans and gay people are the only ones who vote for democrats...". So is that why I am here explaining my thoughts about your stupidity, as a conservative democrat? Is that why the approval rate of Donald Trump as President of the United States is 36%? Is that why 47% of Trump's supporters APPROVE of transgenders being in the military? Is that why around 80% of the United States population are AGAINST the current government in the United States? Is that why there are many groups in the United States, such as Gays for Trump, that support Trump? Is the only reason you mention them because you hate LGBTQ's? Seriously? Can you not except the fact that there ARE transgenders, gays, and other groups that follow Trump unbeknownst to you? Do you claim that only Democrats can have child molesters and pedophiles (by the way, they mean the same thing dumb ass)? You are absolutely retarded if you think that Republicans are pure in any way.
Ryan Koehler how would u all know NSA has been spying on the american people and the rest of the world without him? Hes the biggest hero of the new millennium
Well if you posit courage and conviction, and if you accept that he was trying to advance the public interest as he saw it, then hero pretty much falls in place.
The term hero is relative. Courage and conviction are not. We may argue over what makes a hero but we all recognise courage and conviction when we see it.
