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Thanks for trying. Another person tried too and got a similar response.

Reported as well!

Kickstarter Woo Woo Land.

I've also reported them on Kickstarter and got a much better response (probably because of the number of reports they are getting), although it is still unclear what they will do. "We’ve investigated it and taken action. While we can’t provide specific details, our actions may include-but aren’t limited to-suspending projects, individual accounts, or payment to creators. Please know that not all investigations result in these actions, and that actions taken may not be visible to the Kickstarter community."

I, too, received the pitiful reply from Kickstarter on 4th March 2019 after I reported the matter: "We’ve investigated and determined that it doesn’t violate our rules or community guidelines.". Perhaps Kickstarter can explain how it breaks the laws of physics. Or perhaps they finally did bother to look into the matter properly.....

When you heat a gas you could think of it as idealised hardballs bumping into eachother, but still there is heat generated so some type of "friction?", by oscillating kinetics must take place because the oscillation finally peter out regardless thermal insulation, or would they forever bump around and keep "heat?" using a perfect insulator? I mean why do they lose speed "heat due to kinetics?" in an open space is it just that the perimeter of the atoms/molecules tries to even out the pressure spreading to a bigger area. If that was the case a fan would not matter for the total healt in a room reached, finally it would spread out even? But it does so probably the heat stay local or raise to the ceiling instead of heating the room? That makes one wonder what goes on in a solid are the attached molecules also considered to be idealised perfect hardballs "elastic collisions?", or are their oscillation more like rigid body kinetics in a single mesh? I mean different materials hold heat better? Why does a saline solution in water trap the heat longer then water without the salt?

Lets hope they do not readjust the frequensy of the 3G / 5G net to produce heat in water, because i suspect that would be some aspect of what wavelength used, and really problemetic it become if they use nanosilver in our food supplies that penetrate the cellmembranes and they get into selfoscillation at a certain frequnsy in water. Then we do have a bloody armageddon upon our hands. Have you read about howto heat water with nanoparticles? That is by the way how both directed energy weapons work and cause effects upon us, where our cellmembranes explode and cause hemorrhagic fever well not the viral one if there is such. phys.org/news/2016-06-high-efficient-solar-nanoparticles.html

Jonas: Wut? Håhåjaja

@@HugSeal42 I say it is not driven by induction heat it work on military technology principles by setting the medium into oscillation like directed energy principles. You emit waves at the frequensy where the medium selfoscillate.

@@HugSeal42 And this also same principles not same frequensy. ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon.html

Yes and the spaghetti trees! I think that was Panorama though. Another UK TV show messing with people on April 1st :)

What you are describing is possible, only not sure you want to do it. If you change the polarity of the electric field water molecules heat up because they keep having to realign with the field. This is what also happens in a microwave oven, look it up. So they don't heat the air around people, they heat the people themselves. Like putting them in the microwave. I'm sure it works but I don't think it's a good idea.

Heating the walls is not a bad idea: your comfort level is determined by the walls' temperature, not by the air temperature as one might think.

You can do this now! -- Mix your own Pluto-Paint: For a 1500 watt room heater you just need to add about 2.7 Kg of finely ground Plutonium-238 to your favorite paint. There may be some physiological ramifications.

@@frazzleface753 IT WAS ROBERT MURRY SMITH THATS GDO ALL SHORTS WITH GRAPHEN NO TOMORROWS WORLD

110% efficiency is real we can have 110% humidity or is nature exempt from the laws of physics

They must have made at least a couple units. They could ship those and people will review them. But scamming people is more important

Pentium 4 = heat = computer use = much higher efficiency since it can do two things at once make heat and run the computer 110% efficiency

With 190w heater there is no way to heat something in winter time, need at least 8 radiators to heat 1 room, where is the money / energy saving?

EEVblog - How exactly do you "heat a volume of space"? According to Nasa's findings, I'd say that is impossible.

I think we have the same model heater and I absolutely love it... not only does it repel lions, it also repels bear! Not one bear has set foot in my home since purchasing it! Best lion and bear repellent heater I have ever purchased!

Mine also repels woman! Oh wait, I think that's my breath.

it reppels UFOs and mental doctors either!

Windmills repel global warming and unicorns.

Towels protect you from shark attacks. Sharks only attack people who are wet, and since I got a towel, I've never been attacked by a shark.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V-jmSjy2ArM.html

Looks good!

Especially the part that electric heaters are pretty much 100% effective because Heat IS their product is eye opening.

Some heaters are better at heating a given space than others. Yes, they're all 97+% efficient at converting electricity to heat, but that doesn't mean they're worth a d**n getting that heat throughout a room. The parabolic heater I have will cook you if you stand in front of it, but does a poor job heating the entire room. Alone it'll hold the room about 68F; with a fan moving the air in the room, the room will be over 80F. The number you want is the efficiency of _heat transfer._

@@jfbeam Except they're also 100% efficient at transferring heat. You're talking about an IR heater that blasts you with LWIR and MWIR light, which heats *you* up directly.

But it looks pretty

@@EEVblog And it's an efficient resistor :)

And no ribbed surfaces whatsoever. Smooth hi-tech. Just like Elon Musk would want it.

EEVblog I prefer the look of a 70' / 80's Vulcan wall furnace personally :) :p probably works better too.

resistor freakin roadways!

"Thermal Regulator"... "Wowwww!" lol

Can you do an investigation about those concrete blocks crane towers to store energy. We had so much discussion about it, w'r not getting out of it. ;)

When you do - remember MOST radiant heaters have glass faces to allow them to heat up to where they emit IR and prevent the restive element oxidising. Think halogen and ass you said glass bar heaters. This is laid out like a non forced convective heater (there are heaps of flat panel heaters like it already with metal faces) but is supposed to somehow radiate IR, using 200W to heat that entire area.

I reckon you were easily radiating 400 Watts yourself while filming this vid, Dave. But at least you were 80% efficient. lol

Dave, remember, a person is a 100W heater: 2000 kcal/day, 1 calorie = 4.18 Joules.

Or you could just bypass your meter like a lot of people do in my town.

As long as they don't notice, its free energy

That explains why you mount it on the wall. Guess a shared wall in a terrace?

I don't know, I'm still partial to the old 500W halogen lamps ... light and heat at the same time. Bonus, you know a head of time your electric bill was going to be high.

Jax jackson Also you could toast bread with them. 3 in 1!

My computer is more than 100% efficient, it makes pretty lights AND heat!

Best electric vape 😀👍

Lol your right

Make it animated. "Wow that fire is really roaring better turn it down a little". It could work! lol.

@@redsquirrelftw Or make it psychedelically warmer: Give the people in front of it some acid to intensify the illusion. :-) There was an experience on a festival sometime ago when somebody was sitting in front a bunch of red candles and behind him there was a burning garden torch, making sounds of a fire. It took the person some time to realize, that there was NO campfire. :-)

they will relaunch it on IGG. 16.3.19 "Today we want to announce that we will be launching SOLUS again on Indiegogo in April."

@@Kalidor99 oh you have got to be kidding me. That is just so unreal to me that they are continuing their dishonest campaign. If they continue to say their radiator is 95% more efficient than 100% efficient radiators, they deserve the additional blight on their name when it does get suspended, and it will.

they're back up on indiegogo

Now it's "only" up to 30% more "cost" efficient.

CO2 emitted by those two could melt glaciers and submerge entire world. Be cautious.

A great idea! That will make your girlfriend happier and make the environment have more quality time with your loved ones!!1! ^^)

I feel this is how we cause a tear in the time space continuum. Or create a black hole.

... and use the batterizer for backup power! WOW what a concept!

@@pomonabill220 Okay, let's not go crazy.

My thought exactly. Graphene paste my arse!!!

Graphite ink

It's possible to make a paste out of particles that are each only an atom thick. That's exactly what they're talking about.

@@BenjaminGoose doesn't graphene get it's conductive properties from being in a single 2D lattice? I feel like mixing it in a paste would offset and overlap lattices and it would basically just be a graphite paste which does have its own properties, but it ain't graphene.

Not even! That's a carbon composition resistor. Carbon film is much better

Yeah, the glass may not conduct heat well, but it can and does radiate it just fine. It also acts as a thermal mass to reduce cycling, but yeah, it is no more efficient then any other radiator.

There are two types of convection in this instance (three actually). 1) Natural convection caused by the radiated heat rising and forming convection currents in the room 2) Natural "Convection heaters" which have the air circulate inside and around the elements and then rise outward (you are right, as I mentioned in the video, the Sonus can't do this because it's sealed and the glass is an insulator) 3) Forced convection heaters which are the same as #2 but use fan to force circulate air around the room. You can also use a ceiling fan to do similar.

The insulative glass will initially be quite poor at radiating the heat from the element, but will improve with time. No heat is lost of course, it eventually gets out.

Dave has 100% efficiency

Some of the power is also radiated as infrared light instead of thermal motion. That infrared power output rises with temperature to the power of 4. Infrared heaters or heat lamps are a real product and usually have working temperatures above 1000°C. This product doesn't look like that at all though. Otherwise, they would show off that nice red glow and have to admit that it's a serious fire hazard in that form factor.

B. But it has infared heating witch is just light that can travl outside??

Thermodynamics was the FIRST THING that came to mind before I finished the video and I saw Dave brought up the AWFUL tempered glass conducting properties.

Check their response to my video in the KS comments! They again effectively claim the graphene produces heat when the power is cycled off!

Spilled my coffee!! Ha ha

actually this heater is 500,000% efficient, the way it accomplishes that is it contains 5kg of mixture of plutonium dioxide and plutonium 238, which allows it to produce 2kW of heat energy with a half-life of 87.7 years, it's an exciting new method to heat your room and an exciting crowdsourced community of radiation poisoned people

My pc after a few hours does the job in winter.

If you play one of those fireplace videos on your plasma tv, it almost feels real if you stand in front of it.

Probably has cooling fans that actually push the heat into the room too!

Mark Cummings rr

TV is excellent... If you need a lot of heat, go for a crypto-currency miner. The BTC (or whatever) is just another NICE side effect.

I have a 3.6kw heater for my full house... And we have 10 rooms (including bathrooms and kitchen)... Of cause we got really think insulatiin

@@matsv201 that is a very small amount, but still the equivalent of having more than two of these heaters per room. Just out of curiosity, what are the temperature extremes where you are located?

@@mdrew44628 Yea i would need to have two of the larger in the larger rooms... and in the bathroom i probobly would be able to go with just one of the smaller... but its not quite true. I live in the center of Sweden Inland from Stockholm. Normally the temperatures is between -10C and 0 in the winter. Sometimes its -30C. There is a bit of a caveat, making this not quite applicable. To the benefit of the system i have. It uses a 1500 liter reservat tank. This even out the power usage between night and day. I also use inteligente thermostats. At might and weekdays before non kitchen drops down to 8C (also saving power on the refrigerator). The childrens bedroom drop down to 12C when they are in school, and the master bedroom drops down to 12C until 7PM.... Well, that is, the thermostat drop down, the room temperature rarely do. Also the heated garage is set on 10 degree all day. On week ends the heating is for most part on full tilt all day. The bath rooms is on 25C all day every day To the "decerment" of my system. It also heats water. This do use a bit of power, specially with a 300liter tub. Of cause, the electric heating is only "lazy" heating. I have a secondary heater. A 14kW wood stove that i have to use if the temperature drops down to lower than -10. But i usualy run it every second day or so during the winter. But i can run the house with out it, no problem. Just that wood is cheaper than electric power. I also have a tertiary heating system. 4.8kW solar power. This is brand new, and i just used it for last 6 month. This system pretty much give 0 power during December and January. Ut just never get sufficiently hot to circulate the water. But during the second half of February it really helps a lot. I bought the solar panels so i wouldn´t need to run the electricity during the summer., The thing is over here. While the electric power is dirt cheap during the summer (about 2-4c/kWh), the transfer cost is really quite high (almost a euro). I calculated that i would have the solar heater payed back with in 8 years only for the 6 month during the warm part of the year.

Exactly, 200w would have trouble heating a shoebox. Most room heaters are at least 1kw.

Maybe it's made for the Australian market. I'm thinking it might be ideally sized for QLD or NT, especially between October and March.

Mostly farts, though.

It's in Kickstarter's interest to have as many successfully funded projects as possible so the main deciding factor of whether they'll let in a project or not is how likely successful will it be in generating hype and whether the commission they get from the project is worth the potential backslash (if it's a snake-oil project). This one ticks all the right boxes when it comes to Kickstarter, they would love to have as many projects as this as possible.

Stupid people make many people rich. Always have, always will. But a good video can always bend physics. Lest, they get some consensus of scientific opinions, then it must be a fact. Is there a chance that nano technologies could increase the radiation efficiency? Absolutely. But does that change the electrical efficiency? Obviously not. Great video. Green energy always equals real green $$$ in someone's pocket.

Whenever my heated bed goes on I can feel my meter spinning like crazy and my bank account slowly draining. In long prints (10h) the room the printer is in actually gets warm.(I have a mains powered heated bed) The problem is here in Cyprus we have the most expensive electricity throughout EU.

It is the same for most crowdfunding projects - they need crowdfunding cause any normal investor will first check if their claims are even possible and then decline the obvious scams.

I sent a note to Kickstarter with links to the project page as well as Dave's video. I encourage everyone to do the same thing...

Mario hjkuzffrt why?

@@Paradiesgestalter Watts are a unit of power, or energy over time. One watt is one joule per second. So power is to energy as speed is to distance. "watt per second" describes a change in power, just like acceleration describes a change in speed. Taken literally, it means that the device would be consuming 180 watts after an hour, 360 watts after two hours, and so forth! Obviously, they meant to say "watts" not "watts per hour"..but didn't, whoopsie.

Steven Haussmann thx for the info

Mario, I also feel your pain

@@Paradiesgestalter - TBH, it's not just these scammers who make this error. Only, in their case it's most embarrassing because it's supposed to be their expertise. Wh means Watt-hours, though you will more often read kWh, for kWh. (1 kWh = 1000 Wh). It's a measure of energy, namely a certain power (in Watt), DURING A PERIOD OF TIME. Intuitively one may see how 100W during 1 hour will be more energy than that same 100W for just a minute. So for energy you MULTIPLY power and time, Watt x hours, or Wh for short. DIVIDING power by time, like "Watts per hour" is basically meaningless[*]. [*] With some imagination it could stand for a power gradient: if the power rises from 10W to 100W in 1 hour that would be a gradient of 90W/h. I don't think anyone has ever used it this way, though.

FranklinLaserBlog plastic was the same back in the early 20th century... Same people, different materials...

I was thinking of the same thing. I'm not a Boomer but read enough on weird things we as humans had done over the years with the latest and greatest thing to make me skeptical of all miracle claims like these kickstarter snake oil scams.

Every new material is good for EVERYTHING, well for marketing everything at least, as long as it has a sexy name and the public knows about it. Heating shit up? Graphene. Batteries? Graphene. Capacitors? Graphene, duh. Levitation? Obviously Graphene. Bulletproof vests? G R A P H E N E

For the DMtech f

You can't see the special magic graphene paste being put on the thermal resistor (glas panel)? I like Dave's emotions on debunking bullshit from Kickstarter. Thanks from Germany you made my day!

They used to promote asbestos being in everything when it was new technology. Carbon Nanotubes are just as bad if not worse.

It's like tiny little cannons of heat! /s

I will never read CARBON NANO TUBES without imagining Riley saying it

No doubt he will.

Rants for days :D

@@heyarno days? YEARS!

Technically, EM fields are pretty efficient heaters. I wouldn't go put myself into a microwave though.

Gordon Freeman The words you are looking for are: BS

Havent tried to heat my apartment with a radio transmitter lately.

They slept through Thermodynamics class, all semester. So did Fabian. ^^^

yeah... and we all know how magnetic dust particles are, right?!?!?

That would indeed be a direct one to one conversion.

Indeed! Just like all the other ones! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V-jmSjy2ArM.html

Yeah but they should have added some AI, everything needs AI these days.

@@DOYLECLEVERLOBE1 If they glued some gears on and called it steampunk it would run even better

Whale semen is more conductive than Whale snot.... You clearly are misled by the snot industry.

DOYLECLEVERLOBE1 Also dont forget the IoT or how I like to call it, Internet of Shit.

they use plutonium 238 thats why they're most efficient the radioactive material produces heat and only 120W per hour is needed for the control systems, of course only downside is you cant turn it off but other than that its perfectly safe. anyway for some reason ever since i got this heater i've been getting skin burns and dehydration and have fainted several times but im sure i will get better

I'd hire him, but he doesn't have to rant. I would rather he help me with my various electronics projects. :D Unless he wants to rant about my electronics projects, which I suppose that works as well. ;D

Those who tried (like me) people think its black magic.

@@tmdrake lol. You can't be on EEVblog and not have some engineering in you. Heck I do a little of everything and post it up. Probably confusing as hell to the few who watch the videos.

Fake engineering is genius if you think about it. The con artists have come a long way to defraud thousands of uninformed people. It’s like free money.

@@Willam_J yes I won't be able to pull off a scam either. It would just bother me to no end. I am not too bad at designing and building products so some day I may actually put out a proper item for crowd funding. Can't do Kickstarter though since its not available where I live.

@@frosty129 it is free money but so is holding up a bank. Guess it can work for some but I can't do that. What annoys me is when things like this are explained and clueless people argue defending them.

This is for CPUs, but that's basically what Carbonaut or IC Graphite thermal pads are.

Basically any IR heater gives off light.. The Black body radiation curve is a bastard. But you want a shitty lightbulb maybe so it doesn't equal daylight in your room

You could put the bulb in a swanky black box.. put a few logos on it, a bit of chrome maybe.. sell it for a fortune.

Woods blacklight bulb should help

That would probobly save more heat. Because when ir hit the skin it feals warmer.. promting you to lower the temperature

@@allesklarklaus147 we owned a poultry farm, we used to keep the chicken warm with help of an array of 200w bulbs in 2°C...😁

...for people who didn't listen in school physics class

Yeah, very close in name in the same field!

Somebody should tip them off!

A light bulb would only be 97.8% efficient. You'd lose 2.2% efficiency by creating visible light and this thing loses less than 0.1% which makes it at least 22 times better. Your losses are 22 times less. You must think I am thick, but I'm not. A light bulb huh? LOL.

@@czarzenana5125 "You'd lose 2.2% efficiency by creating visible light " And that visible light gets partially absorbed on each reflection turning into heat. The only loss of energy you would have would be the light going out the window.

except for light escaping through windows, the light also eventually be turned into heat

Indeed

I think the elements are graphene-ish, but they seems to almost totally focus on the paste. But either way it's bunk.

EEVBlog - Ah, just what I want on my resistive heater - elements made up of a material with incredibly low resistance. I realise the whole thing is nonsense, but how exactly do they justify that one?

certainly looks like general cpu thermal heat paste. i think someone could even build 1 at home with some heating elements, a controller and 2 plates of glass the stand might take years of research to perfect tho lol

thermal paste is usually non-conductive

Just wait, they will relaunch it as a solar panel to collect drinking water out of thin air.

Isn't infrared light way WAY above 2.5GHz---- SHUSH

Funny comment but I was wondering if they are 100% efficient, the threads are glowing and are thereby loosing some of the energy to light. I don't know if I am right?

Fried Mule as long as that light doesn’t escape your house it should be absorbed by nearby items and converted into heat.

Actually many of them cost less than this thing!

It's totally stupid!

Michael Bradley-Robbins not if it’s nuclear! They’ve _clearly_ cracked cold fusion and are using this as a front...

Sure does look a lot like a hot plate..........

Run prime95 on an old p4 and you don't need this.... Haha

Didn't want to disappoint!

@@EEVblog thanks for the great video (i am still watching it tho), i enjoy your debunking videos :) keep them coming...

I'm still waiting for some IR beamforming heater campaign on kickstart, better powered with AI-optical tracking...

@@wangyeeee The Solar Freaking Roadway of heaters. The real problem with IR heaters is that the results are like being on Mercury. Your front will bake but your rear still freezes.

I don't think this looks like an IR heater at all. The glass would get incredibly hot from the around 1200 degrees C (+/- 300 or so) hot heating elements and touching that would leave half your skin on the glass plate. Also the graphene would absorb a lot of that infrared light and turn it into good old simple heat. Unless you want to heat that as well to glowing red temperatures which in this form factor is essentially like mounting a burning coal brick onto your wall.

alles klar klaus - They say this only gets to 100 degC

@@SirBunghole That's an engineering problem. One easy solution is to simple place another high-power IR emitter on the opposite side of the room that tracks your ass. #ToastyBuns

It's most definitely Italy magnetic, check inside your PC power supply, it likes to accumulate there.

Aliens are more plausible

Use Coulomb law instead of Faraday law and you have it.

Free energy is real! It's just been made illegal. Bypassing your electricity meter is possible, but the government doesn't want you to do it /s

@@_BangDroid_ You made me laugh. My first thought when I started to read was that you where a conspiracy/free energy nutcase but then I read the rest and I have to agree with you.

@@_BangDroid_ well yeah, just wait for their power outage notice and tap those incoming cables into a hidden light switch

Haha. groundbreaking. Next kickstarter will be one of the graphene panels but you wear it on your back ( + a battery pack), so you can heat yourself directly !!

@@mrlithium69 Now that you mention it, if I'm already radiating heat generated from that 1500 calorie dinner I had earlier, I could conceivably apply a layer of graphene paste to my naked body, don a sweater and some heavy slacks, and turn my thermostat way down. Brilliant!

I never join a Kickstarter as there are to much scams there, like this. I prefer buying appliances in a real shop, so I know what I get and whom to sue when I don't get my warranty. And online is riskfull in case of bankruptcy..

I’ve joined a couple of Kickstarters, all of which delivered. Like everything in life one has to pay attention. While Kickstarter could, and should, check the offerings far better, it isn’t exactly fair to generalize as the majority of Kickstarter projects are not as blatantly obvious BS as the ones Dave rightfully targets (keep doing that man!). Kickstarter isn’t anything like a real shop anyhow. The problem is people in general are a bit too gullible and ignorant about many products, and sadly that isn’t really limited to Kickstarter and Indiegogo, etc. Ahwell, I’m getting off my soapbox, we probably agree about this anyway.

@@skullhqx I generally agree, my bad experience was a couple of young blokes having a go at making a documentary about a subject i was/am interested in, and i think life just got in the way of them completing it. Seven years so far, only a couple of updates until now, there has been no delivery of the supposed reward's for backers. I hope they finish it for their own satisfaction.

Just avoid CrowdFunding all together. There are very few actual good products there. Cause even if they deliver - there is a reason why they did it that way and not like any normal person. If a product is good they could either produce it normally or get investors. If it is a scam then CrowFunding protects THEM only and not the scammed buyers.

Yep, i would never join any kickstarter. People place too much trust in people, and the net is just like everywhere else in this world, full of con people. Glad i do not have any money like these people to throw away. But if people have money, and they want to follow someones thing, thats there business.

They claim this is also a (passive) convective heater, which it is not. The glass prevents the air getting back to the actual element. But of course there is some natural room convection Oil (and water) heater which are seriously common are predominately natural convection also. But any type of heater has a mix of the various forms.

I fully agree... Same comment I did. The question is not about how the heat is produced but how efficiently is it transmitted to the environment. In any case, these guys are overselling their radiators.

Forced is not convective it's forced!

blargg The biggest radiant heater you’ll encounter is the Sun. I wouldn’t consider that effect to “feel pretty weird”. 🤨

I'm just talking about how a radiant heater feels. I tried one a while back and it was weird to use in a room. Maybe it's expectations. It's like sitting in front of a fireplace or a camp fire (or in the sun, as you say). I don't want that feeling just sitting at the desk. Oil-electric radiator FTW. Quiet and relatively safe due to low surface temperature.

Thats not the part of the claim thats being doubted. The issue is the conversion factor of electrical watts to BTU's of heat.

It's not a more efficient heater. In fact with a lossy house it has *less* system efficiency in terms of temperature rise than a larger capacity radiator.

mrlithium @ 0:09 into the video. If the manufacturer claims a saving of 80% on your utility bill, the manufacturer obviously doesn't understand where heat loss occurs. The loss doesn't occur in the conversion process. but in the heat loss through walls, doors, windows etc. If you don't believe me open your doors and windows in the middle of winter and watch your electric bill go up. As Dave points out, electric conversion to heat is 100%. On a more fundamental understanding, SOLUS COULDN'T EVEN IDENTIFY THE CAUSE OF HEAT LOSS CORRECTLY. THEY BLAME IT ON THE HEATER, NOT THE HOUSE. If your house was PERFECTLY insulated, you wouldn't need a heater. Your body would generate enough heat to keep it warm.

Ooooh, I have a brand new Kickstarter idea for a super-high efficiency heater - it runs outside, hunts down all your escaping heat, absorbs it, and brings it all back in...! Sure to be over-funded, this one...

Attila Asztalos I know your idea sounds ridiculous, but in a simplified form, that's generally how a heat pump works. In effect, it cools down the outside to heat the inside.

Not really relevant to how this product would operate, and I'm not claiming that paste is not made of graphite, but even if you had a perfect stack of multiple layers of graphene, the resulting structure is not necessarily graphite. Graphite does consist of layers of graphene, but oriented in specific ways. If the graphene layers are "misaligned" in this way, the resulting crystal is not graphite.

Plug one of these in. Get 5x the heat out. Put boiler and generator next to it. Plug four of these in to generator. etc. Free energy finally achieved!

And be 80% colder. That suffering while freezing would be worth saving 80% on my heating bill. Hell, the colder I get - the more I'll shiver = the less heat I need and the more heat I produce.

You could actually cover all your walls with these things to isolate your room. Try that with a standard oil filled radiant heater.

I save 100% on my heating bill by living in Florida (never needed a heater). Now the amount of energy dedicated to removing heat (and yes, even in December!), that's not so cheap.

@@markg735 Just drink water and sweat. That's about the cheapest and most efficient cooling system I can think of.

However, gas boilers convert directly from fuel to heat; electric heaters are powered from the grid which has transmission losses and the power is generated by turbines which are either directly powered by fuel or from steam generated in a boiler (yes, I'm aware some countries have high levels of renewable energy, but that's not universal).

The graphene is the black body radiator - Regular glass is reasonably transparent to long wave I.R.

Apple has this market mostly cornered.

@@markg735 hahahahaha. And aimed at the same sort of customers !!!

This is what I was thinking. Not to defend the numerous incorrect claims in the campaign, but if the primary means of heat transfer is via radiation of IR rather than convection, the heater could give an increased perception of warmth despite lower average room temperatures. So if the goal is to improve comfort rather than raise the room temperature, it could be argued that this unit might create the same perceived warmth as a higher-power convection-based heater would produce by heating the air. The effect could be especially pronounced in drafty/poorly insulated rooms where warm air from a predominantly convective heater would be diluted by ingress of cold air, whereas radiated IR would be directly incident on the people in the room, giving the perception of warmer temperatures.

But the trouble is that their measurements are based on air temperature in the room. They explicitly say that their system is better because it gets the air 1m off the ground next to their unit hotter than a conventional radiator gets a thermometer lying on the floor. But... if they used the same thermometer for both tests the results would not favour their system. It would either use the same amount of power, or heat the room less. Their silly "test" is designed to obscure that problem.

@@mozismobile well they say that. but thermostats also get effected by Radiant heating. so they might read a false values aswell.

Yeah, Europe is full of scammers trying to sell IR heaters with exorbitant claims. Truth is, they're about as comfortable as sitting in front of a campfire - your face is warm, while your back is cold. And if you have to get up and move around the room, you're all cold. My ancestors didn't pillage and enslave the global South for me to have to deal with that shit.