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How much lab power supply can you get for $450?
Triple isolated outputs, PC control, 0.05% accuracy, is it too good to be true?
www.attenelectronics.com/Produ...
NOTE: Yes, it's a long review, and I spend most of the time complaining about something. I wasn't going to spend the time to try and edit it down. Complaints on a post card please.
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@GaRbAllZ
@GaRbAllZ 11 лет назад
Very thorough review Dave. Great job!
@JAKOB1977
@JAKOB1977 5 месяцев назад
Great hands-on video, validating specs & testing. Thorough video with a handfull of gold nuggets of good valuable info, topnudge A joy to watch these older videos from when Dave were solid to the bone and in a class of his own.. looks like Atten Electronics gone down under, and sold their slT3 to some CN lottery chananagang
@ChipGuy
@ChipGuy 11 лет назад
I have not even watched it yet, but i know you so well now (watched all 439 EEVBlogs) that i can just give you a big thumbs up for these teardowns.
@wesz9907
@wesz9907 9 лет назад
Great review. Lots of good info and test checks. Thanks for the thoroughness. It appeared to me that the actual circuitry worked very well and responded nicely except for the limit crossover concerns. The biggest problem seemed to be the Functional Logic. Typical Asian mentality.
@theanimated1
@theanimated1 11 лет назад
I love the in depth reviews
@DLTX1007
@DLTX1007 11 лет назад
I haz been waiting for this. Thanks dave!
@martinnicolasmenamena.-
@martinnicolasmenamena.- 3 года назад
Hello EEVlog: I really like all your videos that you upload and publish on RU-vid, very complete on your part in terms of all your explanations and clear, simple and concise steps (a clarification: to make my comment easier for you, I went to the translator from Google I wrote my comment in Spanish and I was translating it into the English language and then I copied the translated language into English and pasted it in the comment bar on RU-vid and there I would send it to you in your language), I hope you have liked my comment, receive your answers as soon as possible, greetings and congratulations to you and everyone around you. From Lujan, Buenos Aires Argentina.-
@hobbified
@hobbified 10 лет назад
Dave hates when he can't use his knob.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
File size depends on amount of motion content in the video, as I use a Constant Quality setting in Handbrake.
@RandyLott
@RandyLott 11 лет назад
Great review as always. I can believe the amount of fail in that UI, but you can't harp on the performance.
@pde442
@pde442 11 лет назад
Great review
@Razor2048
@Razor2048 11 лет назад
awesome review
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
Well, I have already paid for it, and I have nothing like it's capability in the lab. So I have the choice of either keeping it and using it, or selling it and try to find something of similar capability at the same price. I have also spent a lot of hours figuring out how to drive it, and it does work when you know how to drive it. Yes, it still annoys the crap out of me, but so does my Fluke 87's default AC current mode...
@richardgraham65
@richardgraham65 11 лет назад
Thanks for replying, The fuse I need apparently is the 11 Amp version, the part numbers have been changed since this thing was first built, however, there is a place in Bangkok that has the part I need for about 650 Baht! Thanks for your help guys, appreciated.
@david486038
@david486038 11 лет назад
ha ha ha.... Having trouble with ya knob... Seriously though, I honestly love your videos. Very very in-depth and still watchable. Well done
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
Oh, I hadn't seen that before, it does look good.
@GeorgeHamberhill
@GeorgeHamberhill 11 лет назад
Great job!
@EletronManiacos
@EletronManiacos 11 лет назад
Dave what happen with the classic phrase "I'm glad you ask"? That was always the best part of the video =P Your videos are awesome, you improved a lot since your first video, thank you for sharing you knowledge with us for all these years. Have a nice day ;)
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
Yep, teardown already uploaded, going live tomorrow. 45min worth.
@ahbushnell1
@ahbushnell1 11 лет назад
nice presentation
@whiskeyify
@whiskeyify 11 лет назад
I just bought an ATTEN mulitmeter, for about 25 dollars. the quality seems quite good for the money. At work I always used a fluke, but at home electronics is just a hobby for me so I didn't want to spend a lot. I was hoping Dave would take it apart, I wanted to see the insides.
@HLSDK
@HLSDK 11 лет назад
You should hear one of our HP signal generators spinning up. Or a keithley SMU. Or the helium compressor. I'm glad we don't run that last one very often :>
@sic-
@sic- 11 лет назад
When you was saying about the shoddy interface I was just thinking that this PSU makes an ideal bench desktop PSU - as no-one will want to nick it from your bench at the office...!
@marinedalek
@marinedalek 11 лет назад
You know when you're trying to do something in a dream, like search the web or call the police and whatever you do it has unexpected consequences? Like dialing 999 puts you through to a takeaway or the phone crashes. That's what this power supply reminds me of, especially at 24:15
@JimGriffOne
@JimGriffOne 11 лет назад
18:35 - I bought a dual 30V power supply and modified the output for 40V instead. Not sure how customisable that one is, whether you could modify the firmware or any variable pots inside it that allow for higher voltage output.
@JosefdeJoanelli
@JosefdeJoanelli 11 лет назад
Perhaps someone could make up a nice serial user interface expansion unit for this power supply :) I assume the serial port also outputs current and voltage settings too?
@DamienNicholas
@DamienNicholas 11 лет назад
glad i'm not the only one who feels that way.
@ElectroMac74
@ElectroMac74 11 лет назад
great videos thanks, the siglent spd3000, is a better value for money, hope any siglent products to be reviewed soon!
@MrElektrolyt
@MrElektrolyt 11 лет назад
4:50 ahh the sound of the big diesel inside the power house gives you confidence.
@pilatomic
@pilatomic 7 лет назад
Dave, "OVP" has nothing to do with protectiong with failures. Like "OCP" turns off the output when current limit is reached, "OVP" simply turns out the outputs when voltage limit is reached. Very handy to charge batteries (automatically cuts power when end of charge voltage is reached)
@yueibm
@yueibm 11 лет назад
Impedance mismatch reflections? I wonder if you can get rid of it by going through the voltages where the internal resistance is around 50 Ohms.
@enginerdy
@enginerdy 11 лет назад
Could you check out what happens when you power the unit down? I have a power supply that produces junk on the output (when disabled) in its dying gasps!
@DavidB445
@DavidB445 11 лет назад
"noo.. You can't just go in and use your knob like that" haha
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech 11 лет назад
Dave has already been using ustream. twitch seems focused on gaming, but I guess either is fine with me.. the problems were twofold, however; firstly, I don't know when he'd be on, and secondly we'd spend ages trying to get the setup tuned for audio levels etc. Fun times, but not getting things like the high quality closeups here.
@mshahabas
@mshahabas 10 лет назад
what about pc control, can you make a separate review?
@skimask87
@skimask87 11 лет назад
On the series mode voltage setting issue... Could that be programmed the way it is because it was meant to be used for analog circuits with dissimilar + and - voltages? e.g. say +10v, ground, -5v? Would that make any sense to use it in that manner?
@LtKernelPanic
@LtKernelPanic 11 лет назад
Looks like if they'd fix the UI it'd be a nice bench supply.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
I uploaded it 32 seconds ago, you haven't even heard the intro yet!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
3-4 hours or so. Plus then a few more hours for RU-vid to process it.
@MelodicMurder
@MelodicMurder 11 лет назад
Dave, have you thought of replacing the fan?
@williefleete
@williefleete 11 лет назад
If I was the one to design that, up down and select buttons for each channel, numeric keypad, current and voltage adjust buttons and an ok button
@HennerZeller
@HennerZeller 11 лет назад
Reminds me of my DSO quad: looks like hardware good enough for the specs, but the software drives me up the wall so that I stopped using it. I think these manufacturers that have the hardware expertise but not so much software/UI people should just make it dead simple to exchange the software: well documented microcontroller interface to the hardware and e.g. a firmware pluggable by SD card. That way, for awesome hardware, good Open Source software will be available soon and sales skyrocket.
@RPBCACUEAIIBH
@RPBCACUEAIIBH 11 лет назад
Just a guess, but try to press shift and then cursor keys where the cursor keys don't seem to work...
@xenocide702
@xenocide702 11 лет назад
In for teardown. I hope it's hackable, it'd really help them sell some product actually :D
@kasunnanayakkara793
@kasunnanayakkara793 10 лет назад
Yep. As you said one of the cheapest, it really works as that...
@andrewsweet43
@andrewsweet43 11 лет назад
I think that you sould switch off that new LED lighting Dave... It affects your measurments ;)
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 лет назад
I got a set of fuses for my 87 V on Amazon, way cheaper when you buy a set of 5. Fuse type is in your manual, if no manual check the Fluke website.
@richardgraham65
@richardgraham65 11 лет назад
Hi there! Love the videos! I noticed you mentioned you use a Fluke 87 Multimeter - Wonder if you can help me? I have a Fluke 87 MKIII, and managed to blow the Current Fuse inside - There are separate fuses for V and A - Do you know where I can get the fuse in Asia / Australasia? And also - Do you know the part number as my old fuse has magically disappeared! Thanks a lot.
@wither8
@wither8 8 лет назад
These companies should just give you like 20k AUD for a few weeks of consulting to fix up the firmware. It's a pretty precision bit of kit especially for the money but the shitty interface totally dissuades hobbyists such as myself from buying it. Hell, someone should just fix it themselves, rebadge it and sell it for +100. Edit: hahaha dave you should have left the relays in oscillation to see time to failure!!
@LPFthings
@LPFthings 11 лет назад
Why do the rise and fall times always only go to 90%? Why not 100%? Seen it on a heap of equipment.
@gonzik2675
@gonzik2675 11 лет назад
New unit "multimeter widths" =)
@davidkuqani
@davidkuqani 4 года назад
What is the best power supply?
@ForViewingOnly
@ForViewingOnly 11 лет назад
Thanks for the review Dave. Gah! The crappy user-interface plague is spreading like wildfire. It's as if these companies have just a single employee working on the UI, and that person's brain is wired differently to the rest of mankind. Don't they ever give these products to normal people to test before they go to market?
@DLTX1007
@DLTX1007 11 лет назад
How much does it cost? The PPS3305T-3S is also made by Siglent actually. But for where i can buy from it ONLY costs 300SGD. Yep. 300SGD not including the shipping fee which probably is about 37$ ... 10kg(s) man
@MetalPhreakAU
@MetalPhreakAU 11 лет назад
I'm guessing the 66khz noise is some kind of longwave radio?
@ELJORGE1
@ELJORGE1 11 лет назад
Wow i dont know what to think about this power supply, its quite useful but other thinks are shit and ready to kill your circuits if you dont pay attention!! Anyway, nice review as always Dave, thank you!
@pmtone848
@pmtone848 11 лет назад
I don't know what to do, help, switch relay, switch relay, panic! Big LOL
@frollard
@frollard 11 лет назад
22:00 unable to set below 10v...do you need a leading zero? XD
@MrVinamp
@MrVinamp 11 лет назад
I love to use my knob!
@fdwantstowatch
@fdwantstowatch 11 лет назад
Looks like a GWInstek PST-3202 but with higher current output.
@rocketman221projects
@rocketman221projects 11 лет назад
Would it be possible to hack it and write your own firmware?
@rangehold
@rangehold 11 лет назад
Can you try 30V @ 5A with only one channel ON?
@Brendan77132
@Brendan77132 11 лет назад
Haha, that fan sounds like a lorry!
@mbainrot
@mbainrot 11 лет назад
What's inside of it like? or is that video coming?
@mausball
@mausball 11 лет назад
fast forward to about 56:00 to get to the meat of the review.
@mon0railbredpig
@mon0railbredpig 11 лет назад
Howdo you use your knob folks?
@Mark19960
@Mark19960 11 лет назад
Send this vid to atten.... perhaps they will fix the bugs... right... The bugs are too much for me.. you have better patience than me Dave I would have thrown it in the bin.
@kennygaia9974
@kennygaia9974 10 лет назад
Awesome
@data9k
@data9k 3 года назад
There a diesel engine inside 5:42?
@VintageTechFan
@VintageTechFan 4 года назад
5:44 .. Sounds like it has an integrated diesel generator.
@MelodicMurder
@MelodicMurder 11 лет назад
Dave (beep), next time (beep)you find the (beep)mute button on a device(beep) leave it muted, thanks. (beep)
@CW_CW_CW_
@CW_CW_CW_ 11 лет назад
Dave its the first time I actually hear you so frustrated!!
@hla27b
@hla27b 11 лет назад
Thank you Dave. Excellent Video. ....and what a horrible awful miserable firmware.
@ElectroMac74
@ElectroMac74 11 лет назад
absolutely not, its about 400$ , it appear sometime as ghost on ebay, but you an can found it in other shops on the web
@ElectroMac74
@ElectroMac74 11 лет назад
try spd3303s on aliexpress it cost 450$ there
@DamienNicholas
@DamienNicholas 11 лет назад
is the weight of that thing normal? 22 pounds in such a small package?
@XtianApi
@XtianApi 9 месяцев назад
His verdict at 57:45
@ronaldlijs
@ronaldlijs 11 лет назад
Spent hours and $450? Sounds like a bad deal to me. Wait until it fails on you and then you will be off the roof! I would ditch it and get a better one. I have done that with my cheap 20MHz scope which I replaced with a Rigol, which I ended up replacing with an Agilent Infiniivision 2000, there is NO comparison, I guess same would applu here, the Rigol PSU looks good though. Anyway, have phun wiht it!!
@LegacyMicro
@LegacyMicro 11 лет назад
I would think to set 1V you would press 01.00... Just an assumption...
@johnnyfp01
@johnnyfp01 11 лет назад
Where did you buy it from?
@TheJosephc94
@TheJosephc94 11 лет назад
hey Dave, are you ever going to have it were people can actually see you through a webcam tearing apart stuff. there is a web site call Twitch.tv and they let you live stream for free. just a suggestion for what you can bring to the viewers.
@DLTX1007
@DLTX1007 11 лет назад
Holy shit. What makes you think it's better value? It's freaking 800 bucks!
@NerdNordic
@NerdNordic 11 лет назад
That hard to replace the fan, huh? xD
@offramp100
@offramp100 11 лет назад
There is nothing wrong with that user interface that a 5 kg sledgehammer would not fix.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 10 лет назад
Haha, @ 41:00 - sounds like a sewing machine
@ChrisMasto
@ChrisMasto 11 лет назад
After watching this, I reached over and idly turned my Korad KA3005P on and off, and, well, it broke. Just thought it was amusing and perhaps ironic in a sad, Alanis Morissette sort of way. I posted a video response on my channel.
@epatto
@epatto 11 лет назад
The beeper is driving me crazy! Why does it have to do such a long beep? That's like an error condition beep, 25ms blip would have sufficed. :-S
@123456789robbie
@123456789robbie 11 лет назад
you said nought AND zero, why?
@FrozenHaxor
@FrozenHaxor 11 лет назад
1 Ohm Constant Resistance: POWER SUPPLY KILLING MODE!
@krishna34674
@krishna34674 11 лет назад
i would mod that fan so hard.
@irishRocker1
@irishRocker1 11 лет назад
What about the PC software? Is that any better? You should hack it and write your own firmware! :)
@GeorgeGraves
@GeorgeGraves 11 лет назад
"Thumbs sideways" - but you think it will be your main lab supply? - I'm soooo confused.
@TheJennetteFan
@TheJennetteFan 11 лет назад
I can't find the bloody video.
@NerdNordic
@NerdNordic 11 лет назад
Soo, where's the teardown Dave? ;)
@Photonface
@Photonface 11 лет назад
Much less noise.
@mondeo984
@mondeo984 11 лет назад
who does.......for a PSU :-)
@kasunnanayakkara793
@kasunnanayakkara793 10 лет назад
Yes. It's one of the cheapest...
@vitalsfading
@vitalsfading 11 лет назад
"it's only 200 mm wide" ..... thats what she said
@Bob_Burton
@Bob_Burton 11 лет назад
That carry handle looks really horrible !
@MoesKeckeEcke
@MoesKeckeEcke 11 лет назад
450$ wasted, the problem is that most of the time they don't support their Product
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