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Basically 9 hours!

Same. I was excited for this season to come out just to listen to the breakdowns and criticism. Not to watch it though

@@bigadam i was likewise looking forward to the reviews. Though i must admit even as someone who knew this show would be bad, even i'm shocked at just how nonsensically terrible it actually is. Like, how does a show this poorly written actually see the light of day? it makes absolutely no sense

This is how it works. 😏

Less brain cells lost. More fun to be had. Interest is increased. Sounds like a win win situation to me.

I AM A WOMAAAAAN!!

​@@kregy7509But is a woman a mammal, or an animal?

You have not bled like I bleed!

​@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx It's ma'am!

"What'cha bring me?" -Círdan to Elrond

I started rewatching parts of RWBY, and Neo uses her shape-shifting abilities so well, she's literally the most effective enemy they have.

For me he looks like Michael Sheen in Twilight lol

You couldn't trust any character anymore and everytime even a main character acts slightly odd it could be him. Of course the characters would need to be consistent for that to work but hey one can dream.

It's amusing...in the first season Waldreg obviously really REALLY wanted to serve Sauron instead of Adar. Adar was just the next thing....I thought that maybe this will give chance for Sauron to actually make him his mole in Adar's organization so that later Adar is betrayed by Waldreg...nope....THEY WASTED THAT :).

WARGS: boil 'em, mash ' em, stick 'em in a stew.

@@Nokaret A delicacy in Mordor, might I add

Beware the EFAP pipeline

​@@throwdown1776 the EFAP to long form content pipeline 🤣

Not to get political, but just take a look at the current newest pride flag and then try and say that slippery slope is a fallacy. And that's not even its final form. The same way the list of disabilities will keep growing, the same way the letters in their long ass abbreviation will keep growing. The slippery slope fallacy is a fallacy.

@@throwdown1776 that dark abyss…

Well I hope you like Rhino milk 😉

And ruined grandma

@@pinkerproductions7420 And made Rags the fall guy

That can't be true, Waldreg welcomes everybody to Mordor.

@@Egurius3 He stole my running shoes, and one does not simply walk into Mordor.

It's the only thing in life that gives me joy

Dew it, kill hrerr!

Thanks man

You’re a real one

You're a legend!

2:32:33 Shishka... shishka... shishkaaaaabuggg!!!!!

Thanks, I needed to hear what they said about the umbrella again XD

Lose 50 experience.

@@sol-hunter2332 I am so happy someone got that reference.

You're doing me a confusion, fren.

Gil-ga-DADDY!

An understandable mistake when you do worship satan

Which is ironic, considering their boss is the businessman version of Sauron. They just need a fireside chat with daddy Bezos and they'll have all the negative qualities of Sauron locked down

This is why I could never believe Halbrand is Sauron. Because there was nothing great or special about him, he was just a normal dude who almost died multiple times. That can't possibly be Sauron, Sauron is a demigod sorceror with supreme powers and an army of evil monstrous minions.

Sauron is just a level 13 evil Wizard, not the world-conquering crisis demigod that the books and original films depict him as. His power able to bend minds to his will, able to craft THE ring which can corrupt all who merely gaze at it, and his own will so strong it can manifest as an all-seeing eye of fire after death, is just things any wizard can do.

​@@Actile1His powers list includes "Low level matter manipulation." That is insanely powerful lol

Im also pretty sure the orcs are magically compelled to serve him.

@@dodojesus4529 Hmm it's a bit more complicated than that. They are under his will sort of and will obey him mostly of terror of what happens if they don't but they also do hate Sauron, and some wish they were not slaves and would like to not be that. However because of how twisted and wrong they are, they also worship him because he gives them what they want. They want and get to kill, pillage and whatnot because he allows them to do that. Orcs were never suppose to be a real race, they are fundamentally just a mockery of life and only to be used and discarded by whichever Dark lord is in control. While it is true, he doesn't need the one ring to command them. He does sometimes need to get the whip out as it were to keep them in line. Orcs do have some free-will but it seems that due to how they are, they can't break free of their nature to be evil and serve.

@@MajorSmurfYep, unfortunately the show has failed to make him intimidating or competent or even capable of pulling any of this off. Literally capable of being ganked by his pawns at any time apparently. It’s genuinely pathetic. The just keeping sucking the magic out of the world and seemingly deliberately trying to either dumb it down or make it less mythic feeling.

​@@MajorSmurf"Where There's A Whip, There's A Way"

@@ggrarl That song is a gem... can't wait for ROP to rip it off... there is no low they will not stoop to.

She's suffered through so much, poor woman can't even crack a smile anymore. She's seen the horrors of make believe television.

"mcmuffin" 😂

My understanding is that the elven rings were made in secret, so Sauron didn't know of them when he forged the One Ring to control the others.

@@pezdispencer113 They were also the only ones who DIDN'T in some way corrupt their owners, since he wasn't directly overseeing or involved with their forging like he was with the others. However, since Celebrimbor was still using the techniques Sauron taught him, the Three Rings were still 'networked' to the One Ring, so they lost their own powers once it was destroyed.

Write what you know be like

Sauroctopus?

but how do you show formless corruption? it's impossible. totally impossible for the makers of this show. it'd be so great if they HAD stuck to the idea of a formless corruption. and to illustrate this concept they cut in contemporary footage of Donald's inauguration or something. that's about as subtle and crafty as the makers of this show seem willing to be.

@@bijibadness Were I forced to "explain" Sauron's immortality, in a show I'm creatively heading... I would've called for the "resurrection" scene to merely be, the camera lingers on where Adar slayed him. We just see some shadows flit unnaturally on the walls, no full-on silhouettes or anything but just enough for you to get that there is some activity at his grave. You could just show a rat or two keeling over as these shadows pass (I do not like MauLer's suggestion of a skeleton hand or whatever the fuck he said). Next, we could exit the caves, into the forest at the base of the mountain, and even though the sun is still out, we pan through some trees and suddenly the light stops bleeding through certain patches, in a trail. Obviously do some fade-outs to show significant time is passing. Lastly, we cut to a traveler like the woman with the wagon we see in the show, and she's stopped by a stranger walking out of the woods, who is seeking directions.

@@bijibadness Maybe only imply someone is Sauron's avatar? Have them act innocuous, helpful, and fair, but all their actions in retrospect serves Sauron's short-term goal perfectly (ironically, this show's Not!Galadriel fits this criteria). And then when the plan comes to fruition and it's too late to stop it, the innocuous stranger-turned-comrade dissolves in a wisp of black smoke and a different figure shows up: Sauron in an altered form ready to meet power with power.

*Yes*. A lot of people don't mention the lesser rings Celebrimbor and Sauron made. I believe Gandalf initially thought Bilbo's ring was one of them.

As a fan of Tolkiens Dwarves I'm still baffled how they handled Durin. The biggest thing with Durin is the fact the Dwarves believe each Durin is a reincarnation of Durin the First and that there will only be Seven. Disregarding the messed timeline, how the f*** do you justify there being two reincarnations of the same dwarf, one of who is the son of the Third reincarnation? For Godsake they had a potentially interesting story there, they could have had a storyline of the dwarf who would become Durin III having their entire life turned upside down by this revelation. Imagine a story of a dwarf dealing with the pressure of living up to such a legacy, questioning everything about himself and the awkwardness of friends and family suddenly treating him with reverence, creating this sudden distance between them.

I will never forgive the showrunners for having the audacity of saying that the Second Age was a "blank slate". It wasn't, it never was, Tolkien literally gave them a blueprint from the grave. Even without the rights to the other works of the Professor, one can make a five-season show with the timeline that is in the Appendices with enough talent. But talent is something that Payne and McKay lack.

That would save the show.

I legitimately never even imagined the line meaning anything else; unlike some fantasy ladies, Galadriel could 100% dominate a continent and cutthroat every one of her competitors and their families; she just chooses not to

Based.

'Knife ears' this is the greatest jest in all of history of (Gondor or Middle-earth as a whole - hint this is paraphrasing the words of prince Imrahil from books) that a racial slur from Dragon Age is used for supposedly Tolkien world yUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I f.....g hate it!!!!!!!! Urghhh this is derivative of derivative works Tolkien knock-offs......how. Dragon Age, and Witcher both have these Tolkien-esque settings with races of elves, but in those elves are lowly and persecuted and genocided by humans :)....Tolkien Elves would have whooped the asses of those who would try, they were so powerful....but still they wouldn't for Elves of Tolkien were far wiser, far kinder, far more knowledgeable and pleasant than the other elves :)....of course there were some arrogant elves even in Tolkien world...most died out :).

THEY TERK ER JERRRRRRBS!

And cover the land in a second darkness. It comes right after second breakfast.

Somehow Poppy returned

​@@carlbernard7615 But we can still have elevensies, right? Right??

@@sparkypack I would sacrifice the halflings and their entire plotline to the shadow just for a Waldreg cameo. Would do it for free too

@@carlosplata3899 but then we wouldn't know the story about the Hobbit's ancestors. haha..

Galadriel in the books and the Jackson movies: a duchess Galadriel in Rings of Power: a douche

It's honestly wild how we spend our time. And what we spend it on. Imagine spending a Billion and losing out to Mauler on YT for watch time.

This panel is much more entertaining than anything RoP could produce.

There's no reason not to milk Balrogs. - Jay, Probably

I would first make sure that I could tell the milk-producing half of the species from the other half. Milking is a very specific procedure. You don't want to make mistakes 😂

Poppy knows best.. 😆

He talks loads on his channel 👍

A Rags can bark at the moon - but he cannot bring it down

Oh come on the Dwarves in this garbage show are not even that impressive....the diversity hire yapping wife and some pathetic Durin who is cloned...there are two Durins at the same time which is contradictory to books...there was always one Durin at a time :)...there is also whole angle of the dwarven beliefs that each one named Durin is reincarnation of the first one Durin the Deathless :)...much more interesting element of dwarvish culture than invented 'rite of Sigin-tarag' which was just glorified rock smashing contest...(rite of Sigin-tarag is nosense for hte name Sigin-tarag is khuzdul, dwarvish language name of the clan...the Longbeards...so it means 'rite of the Longbeards' hahah so means nothing really...it's nonsense :)).

also they look like tall hobbits.

He does have a fair point about the crossbows and such- I never understood why nobody in LOTR had crossbows (aside from Isengard in the movies).

And Rags is absolutely right. The further back you go, the more humans have to be aware of the sun and the seasons. Those who didn't, didn't survive the winter (or the rains if you lived near the equator).

The Orcs are dominated by Sauron's will, mainly because they had been twisted and bred by Melkor. However there is nothing wrong with humanizing Orcs.

@@reek4062 except all the things the OP mentioned about how it needlessly complicates the narrative for no added benefit. Orcs are supposed to represent what ultimately happens when you give yourself over over to evil. You won't be Sauron, ruling from your throne atop the impregnable tower, you will be the cannon fodder in his armies expended on a whim simply to spread evil for evil's sake. Tolkiens ideals of good an evil is that surrendering to evil is short term gain that will lead to nothing but long term misery, for you and those around you. THAT is why you should choose the harder and ultimately more fulfilling path. If Orcs, having given themselves over to evil, are also just not really different from humans.... yeah, the entire narrative suddenly loses all value. It's just one faction vs. another faction with no deeper meaning behind the choices the heroes have to make. So there is, in fact, everything wrong with 'humanizing' the orcs.

@@reek4062 except, as the OP pointed out, that it reduces the whole thing from a morality tale to just a story about faction A vs. Faction B. If orcs are just funny lookin' people, the heroes are no better than they are for making the choices that they do humanizing the orcs robs the entire narrative of any real point. Which is why only terrible writers indulge in this kind of ham-fisted moral relativism.

@@reek4062 You know who doesn't humanise the orcs? Every heroic character in Lord of the Rings. I was always of the understanding that this was because orcs are an inherently malevolent and twisted pseudo-race. But if that's not true, and orcs can be something else or freed from Sauron's will, then all the heroes are casual genociders chopping down mind-controlled conscripts to cleanse the world of a rival tribe. Which rather ruins things in my opinion, and clearly wasn't the intent.

I partially disagree It's not that orcs are 100% cartoonish evil. It's just that their society sucks hella dick. It's a violent tribal rat-race where the most vile, cruel, wicked and murderous psychopaths rise to the top, and everyone else falls in line or gets bashed on the head with something heavy. You can see this in several chapters of the book, most prominently in "The Uruk-hai" and "The tower of Cirith Ungol". Orcs are pretty violent mfs who wouldn't bat an eye at murdering their own over a piece of jewelry or even just for fun. At the same time they have some notions of morality (barely), like for example when a party of moria goblins sets out in pursuit of the fellowship to take revenge for their fallen clansmen. Later these same orcs are contrasted with the Uruk-hai of Isengard, which unlike regular orcs, actually gave some vestiges of virtue to them. For example where the average orc is cowardly and wretched and quick to rout, the Uruk-hai show genuine bravery in the face of mortal danger, they show pride in their martial prowess, and are generally much more "warrior-like" than your usual uruk (while it's not directly stated it is heavily implied that the Uruk-hai are a product of mixing of orcs and humans). So the whole - "must we go to war :((((" thing is obviously ridiculous and if anything a normal orc would be like "yay :D war" and not because they are pure evil, but just because that's how their society works, it is based on violence and conflict. And by the way, this is not exclusive to fantasy orcs. There is a reason the middle-ages in europe were the way they were, and a substantial reason was the structure of feudalism. Since the upper-class was almost entirely composed of some variety of military professional (that is pretty much the reason for having feudalism in the first place), young noblemen were acclimated to violence since the age they could hold a weapon. At 6 years old you kill your first animal (during a hunt for example) at 12 it's off to your first war, even if you're just there to observe, at 16 you actively, participate, hopefully killing someone in the process, and then you don't stop until either A. You now have killed enough people and climbed the social ladder as high as your birth and abilities allow. Or B. You get your head bashed in by some other bloke climbing the same ladder.

"I'm not fanfiction. I'm actually extremely lore-accurate right now..."

"She twitted my tipples!" - Boogierog

Just because the reactor at Fukushima was destroyed, doesn't make the area cleaner. Stuff leaks out.

Eh, it depends on the author. Its pretty common that dark lord types corrupt the land under their feets, and also common that when they die all their excess magic spills out. Even when neither of those is true, its an historic truth that the places associated with fallen rulers are sought out by those who follow the same agenda. Back in Ancient Rome there's a bunch of people who weren't allowed to be buried because they didn't want the tombs to become rallying points. It's a big reason why the Soviets never admitted to having Hitler's body at the time, even though they were convinced they'd found it.

Okay, he got there eventually. Good dog.

It's like Drinker trying to pronounce "Lackadaisy" or Gary trying to pronounce in general

The ring has a secret....

Yes, but he looks completely different, which makes you wonder what are the limits of his rebuilding, maybe he could turn into a child when he was still small, maybe to an animal, but we have to assume that he can only do what we see him do because nothing is explored or explained.

Either way complete nonsense....for they suddenly are making him into Venom symbiot :)...instead of ACTUAL SPIRIT that can form up new physical body controlling matter. "Sauron was always de-bodied when vanquished. He needed time for his own bodily rehabilitation, and for gaining control over his former subjects. He was attacked by Gil-galad and Elendil before his new domination was fully established. After the battle with Gil-galad and Elendil, Sauron took a long while to re-build, longer than he had done after the Downfall of Númenor (I suppose because each building-up used up some of the inherent energy of the spirit, which might be called the 'will' or the effective link between the indestructible mind and being and the realization of its imagination). The impossibility of re-building after the destruction of the Ring, is sufficiently clear 'mythologically' in the present book."

Sauron doesn't need to absorb anything to assume a new form. Maiar are spirits whose bodies are as dispensable to them as clothes, and Sauron's power to shapeshift is exceptional even among the Maiar.

because fake drama and dumb character arcs are pretty much standard for every low effort streaming show out there, and this is no exception.

Must have put up a bunch of road signs. "Welcome to Mordor, the land formerly known as South. One does not simply walk in..."

@@ElecManEXE .....bring scones😂😂

Waldreg was just really loud when he said "welcome to Mordor". They heard it from Lindon.

She can't be bargained with. She can't be reasoned with. she doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear

Lol. Now that you've said it, there's a fanfic somewhere....

As Bilbo Baggins said, it's distasteful to me, but also the only thing that brings me joy.

To paraphrase his brother Bibbus Baggleton, the show feels thin, like protein spread over too much urine.

Bulma and Vegeta are hardly a couple

Bad take

​@@bigwinzI prefer this to him coming in cold so all he has is jokes. At least he watched the material.

That works because the characters know what the palantir is and how it functions. The ring’s in this show have so far done whatever the writers want them to do, and will likely continue to, in order to advance their shitty plot.

Also explains why she doesnt get punished for failing for 1000 years. Probably a vacation for him.

Whips and chains

UHm aKshUalLy, that was the Rankin-Bass version, which along with their animated Hobbit was actually rather good. The Bakshi version was a weird rotoscoped acid trip that abruptly ended halfway through, but was still more faithful to Tolkien than ROP is.

He was gifted a batch during the anniversary stream, from the pipeman himself.

because someone told him he had to reviews Rings of Power.... could YOU get through that sober?

Maulers gotten into Saruman's stash of longbottom leaf

The Maiar cannot die, though.

That sounds like the Monty Python's Flying Circus skit where Atilla the Hun is portrayed as a family man.

The Orc family is fine

Watch Echo Chamberlain's video on the orcs :)

@@Adanteh that betamale?