Eflite - Extra 300 V2 - 1.3m - Unbox, Build, Radio Setup, & Maiden Flights 

Glad you enjoyed it! She was a blast to fly, but I have to stress, I'm not a great 3D pilot ;)

That is awesome! Thanks!!!

@@BrianPhillipsRC We met at some fly.

You can do it! This plane is not too bad if you're not on your first or second plane, but to make it really perform a true 3D dance, I would need to be a more disciplines 3D pilot, which I'm not [yet].

Buy it! Like Brian said, set the rates to 60% even up to 75% with safe and you'll do fine. I was nervous about mine and set my rates to 60 and immediately after the first flight I turned them up and even without a lot of expo. It's easier to fly then you'd think. Plus you can set multiple rates to a switch if it's not enough or to much. Just dont go lower than 60% cuz it won't want to turn. I got it as my second plane, my first was a pioneer 620 which I only flew 3 packs before I had the extra in the air. It is very versatile and tame if you want it to be. I would recommend buying a spare prop with it cuz they break pretty easily. Most importantly (for me at least) don't forget how big it is, the scale will make you think its closer to you than it actually is which is dangerous. It looks incredibly epic in the sky tho. I recommend getting it!

@@jakeclauson9863 Cheers man!

He’s got me wanting one to. I suck at 3 d but how am I supposed to learn if I don’t.

Thanks, will do!

Thanks!

Thank you! Glad you're here with us!

Awesome David! Glad we could be part of your inspiration, and having kids getting into it, that's just priceless! Thanks again for following our links - this helps more than you probably realize!!!

I honestly just couldn't remember, since it had been over a year since I had taken up the V1 Extra 300 ;) They're BOTH very good. Very VERY close, but the Extra is just a TOUCH better...but it's also a TOUCH more expensive...so tough call! And to be 100% clear and transparent, we're working with BOTH companies. Both are good companies, with good reputations, and we really want them BOTH to succeed, but our real focus is YOU, and what will make you happy. Good luck with your tough call ;) Extra 300 bit.ly/3rVnMiw VS Edge 540 bit.ly/3EUvlvJ + AR620 bit.ly/3H0w7cq

Thanks so much! This plane is really good!

You bet!

Thanks Harry!

That Red Sport Cub is AWESOME - Esteban, my buddy had that 1.3m beauty, and we still fly it from time to time!!!

So strange!!! I didn't have issues beyond that too, but I was not thrilled that the nut had the corrosion on half of it...but not on the threads at lease ;) So wonder if the box was WET BEFORE SHIPPING??!?!?!

Thanks Jesse!

I was told that might have an adverse impact on your vision - LOL!!!

This is correct, since you're using FORWARD PROGRAMMING, you have to communicate to the Rx from your Tx, thus the plane must be ALIVE ;) Glad you caught that. I need to speak about it in the next Radio Setup video so this can be more clear for people. This was still fairly early in our Forward Programming days, so I was also learning a lot at this point, fwiw

Not sure it's supposed to sound that way....possibly I need to balance the prop ;)

Thank you so much! I'm still learning so much of what you're watching ;)

It CAN, but if you fly sport, put the battery further forward or fly on 3200mAh 3S and you can fly way longer and way more solid in general.

3D cornholes - darn right ;)

Go blue - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Black and Gold Baby - Iowa Hawkeys - just like this plane, in fact... I don't want to lose a fellow lover of all things RC Aircraft ;) BUT the BigTen Championship game might be a painful day for one of us ;)

Those little cheap voltage alarms are nice! We have had a bunch and still use them on our Gen1 Smart packs ;)

Sure

COOL! Good luck on that plane!

@@BrianPhillipsRC Ya, will be cool except for the price of the servos..haha

Thanks!

Sorry you had those issues, but hope you enjoy yours once you've worked through the handful of issues you uncovered during the build. I don't know why some planes just plop together, almost by accident, and others just make you WORK for it, but either way, I'm glad you have it ready to get flying soon!

Same size or exactly the same Prop? I thought the print was different on this one and that???

For sure! 3rd or 4th plane would be great!

So you have a Champ you'd like to fly in? Please hit me up in a REAL EMAIL if you want to do this sort of thing ;)

That would be a awesome idea. And make a few bucks if wanted to charge

Arrows is made by FMS, there's no "copy". This is strictly a branding decision. For example, when you get your milk at the wal mart, and it says WAL MART (generic), I can almost guarantee it's coming from the same dairy as your more expensive "name brand" milk. This is how all MFG'ing works. That being said, there may be slightly different electronics, or livery, or packaging but again, they're the same basic item. Sometimes the electronics are IDENTICAL, other than different stickers on them, unless they're calling out a different spec. This is why we do our review videos, since there's a bunch of choices, and many times, it's HARD to tell the difference in performance.

yes ;)

It's definitely ABUNDANT on the power front ;)

I don't have a favorite...too many to choose from, really! I love most of them we have, but there's some favorites in different environments...and some the fly great, but not on my short list - like ANY 3D plane...not my primary aviation focus, but I do enjoy it ;)

Sure, we have links to the battery for each plane, right under the plane, and the Transmitter, presumably you'll be getting a good one, since you know that you'll be soon RE-ADDICTED ;) Chargers...here's what I suggest. You've been through the process before of buying and using only to eventually watch it go to almost no value many years later, so just get a good DUAL charger, and when you need an adapter, so you can charge a different size battery (which WILL happen) you can just build one at that time, or when you order the battery, you can buy the super-over-priced adapters - LOL... I have videos about chargers and SMART pack here - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc7fO2Vc4A4frWRhCmZo2qxG Battery - As I mentioned above, look at the link under the plane in the Video Description...you will see my recommendation, or if I suggest a couple, you can see I list a couple. SMART Gen1 is the best value to cost ratio, with 30C rating, but if you want to fly EDF Jets, and Helis at some point, you MIGHT consider the almost 1/2 more 100C packs in the Gen2 (you can see when you click the link)...but generally for a normal NON EDF plane, you'll be in good with 30C. Charger - S2200 bit.ly/398ohO6 - YEAH, I know...it's a lot, but it's kinda the cat's meow right now...and it'll do most everything you need for some time. They make a single channel one too, but it's almost as expensive... S1400 bit.ly/3rKYt3l - more wattage, and only ONE channel, but I wouldn't ever trade my S2200 for an S1400. Transmitter - iX20 bit.ly/38XUA1I

Oh yeah, welcome back to the addiction ;) Glad you're here with us Doug! P.S. You may have noticed, we have something like 1500+ videos, so you could spend a few years watching and have trouble getting caught up ;) Please do - LOL

Lol sorry im the kind of guy that cant see something right in front of my face. So i ordered the 300, 52200 g2 2x200w smart charger, 2 14.8v 2200 mAh 30c smart battery, and the nx8. Is there anything else i will need? Do i need any kind of adapter to charge the batteries? Thanks for all the help

Su-30 probably won't come back, I'm guessing so if you must, get it ASAP!!

@@BrianPhillipsRC Which flies better? Su-30 or F-18?

For sure!

NOW, i gotta take mine to the field! 🤯 Tho may be ruff fitting the extra, draco, & FMS pitts in a 16 canyon truck bed. 😳

I see, lower pitch to get out of the hole quicker? Good idea!

@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian: Is there ANY way (u know of) to inhibit the rudder mix on the draco? I used YOUR setup on my nx10. (Regular plane with flaps. NOT their download setup. I always want MY safe in switch A, flaps on B, rates on C.). Thank you sir! 👍

One problem you MAY find, is that it's not about the capacity, which is the GOOD part of the bigger pack, the real issue is that you gotta get the CG right for the plane to fly well ;( IF you can add some dead weight to get everything balanced out, you'll be fine, but don't make a "rookie mistake" and think you can just have more capacity without a tradeoff. Heavier planes do tend to fly worse too...BUT not 100% of the time ;) There's always an exception, and situation where exceptions MAY exist in this regard. Good luck as you keep at it!

@@BrianPhillipsRC appreciate the response- good advice, I'll pick up the appropriate size so I have one less critical point of failure (and will initially set up a 60% d/r and 50% expo as you suggested) :/ I've learned a TON from you already, you're doing a huge service to a great hobby, Brian- thanks for all the effort and passion!

When I say "hammer head", I mean flying vertical (hovering) in place...but I don't know about the falling away part. Maybe I'm saying this wrong???

Thanks! I do too!!!

If they're BAD, pull them out of the fuse and put them in a vice if you have one, otherwise, I would just bend them in the plane - I've done it a ton of times ;) We have Amazon Links too (see below) Help Us Patreon bit.ly/3xgmgdf PayPal brianphillipsrc@gmail.com Horizon bit.ly/38ZFade Tower bit.ly/2XqHt45 Arrows bit.ly/2YjzKJg Bitgo bit.ly/3AoH0QT Hobbyking goo.gl/TynFdU Titan bit.ly/3eXH9R7 Amazon amzn.to/2BGynZt

@@BrianPhillipsRC Alright thanks Brian! Yeah I’ve tried a lot bending them back while IN the plane but doesn’t seem to work.

You can do that, but I didn't realize until it was basically done and we were SUPER up against the sunset - it was palpable, the pressure of sunset on a nice calm-ish night - winter in Iowa is not an easy time to do RC Aircraft reviews - LOL ;) But I love it too much to just take the season off.

I keep hearing this ;)

If you have an avian Rx, should get Nominal Voltage as well as SMART pack data too, if you're using a SMART pack.

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks! Destryoed my V1 after 65 flights - thing fell from the sky. No idea what broke in flight vs smash.

YEAH, and I've know about it for many-many moons...and it's been KILLING me not to talk about it. F-14 is one of my FAVORITE PLANES :) I can't wait to review that plane - although it does look like a handful!!!

Not in the same size class at only 900mm - different ball of wax ;)

@@BrianPhillipsRC of course it isn't, its a $100 profile plane. But I guarantee its just as capable and just as fun and even flies similarly. Everyone wants to try flying 3D, but no one wants to spend $350 to try it out. These 1M profile planes are a great way to do it.

We have MANY LED tutorials on our earlier videos. Check out the playlist for the Spitfire 1.2m Eflite and see if that one helps you out, but we've done maybe another 20-30 led mod videos too, but you gotta look around a bit. We're about to release a video about a more recent OMP Hobbies Bushmaster LED mod too, if you'd rather just wait, but that's a BALSA WOOD PLANE.

Weird! I had a 2200mAh 4S 30C and 50C for the two flight...both were forward, but I was okay with a bit tail heavy for a 3D plane. I would encourage you to try it a TOUCH tail heavy and you might like it better ;)

We've had this happen a few times, so I think it's something about mid wing planes...

@@BrianPhillipsRC man I just cant get mine to balance on suggested cg. Even with a bigger 3300 4s, pushed all the way forward, I can lay a strip of sticky weights (120 grams) over the prop, and I'm still coming out tail heavy That was a quick test I did when assembling, I need to sit down and figure it out still.

I do, except for 3D planes...I make a LOW EXPO mode (I call it CRAZY MODE) and a standard "middle" rate, and a LOTTA EXPO, something to get me back to the ground if I have issues.

I think it's the best balance for technology and value right now in the DSMX arena. Some will argue that the NX10 is necessary for "What's next" but I can't say that with certainty - too big of a price jump ;( As for what I would have if money were no object, I'd have an IX20 ;)

We showed it, but I was flying somewhat tail heavy. Kinda hard to explain...but not quite as far as you had it. 4S 2200 30C

Thanks man!

This video is the video for you ;)

Should do just fine ;)

Did you see how I had to PULL ON IT....rested opposite my hips? This is how we got them to take...also dip the tip in some Dawn to help lube the screws, and you'll enjoy it so much more ;) Get her in the air ASAP - Great plane! Watch our build...you will see what I'm talking about (it's ON this video...)

I don't know, but would love to fly it ;) They don't work with us :(... They make some great planes, but they are more expensive, and some might say they're worth it, but to be honest, they do some things very well, and other things...not so much...just depends on your goals and if you're wanting to fly 3D, in particular.

They updated the Rx...that's it...rest is the same ;) AR636B in the V1 and AR661 in V2 - nothing else is different, and I can't tell a difference, for what it's worth ;)

@@BrianPhillipsRCI see. So I just ordered one last week. Will be here in 3 days. Will it have the updated rx? I had quickly glanced over the details on horizons website but didn't notice anything that stuck out to me as updated. But I'm also not very savvy as far as the rc lingo goes. But if you don't notice a difference I certainly won't. Would just be good to have the latest version. Love the vids btw. Been binge watching them all since since I found your channel!

I've heard a bunch of people suggest taking in a wing (like a tail half) into Home Depot or Lowes and getting paint matched. Sounds like a good idea, but I'd have an entire paint store in my basement if I did that ;)

yeah, that part was pretty annoying to me too

I like them both about the same. Eflite is easier since it's a BNF. Comes down to cost on this one. They're both very good.

Horizon Hobby doesn't "make us do it", but we try to be nice to the brands we work with. In this case, since this was a review of their plane, we didn't want to get too in the weeds about the Arrows plane. We may do a full on SIDE by SIDE at some point, but we are trying not to piss off the companies we are fortunate enough to work with, or they might just say - screw you Brian ;)

The Arrows is cheaper and requires a cheaper Rx if you do it the way we did it, so with their coupon code, it's still a few bucks less...BUT they are both great planes. I think the Extra 300 is slightly better, and I do prefer the Rx that comes in the BNF planes ;)

@@BrianPhillipsRC I agree the BNF offers a more refined package.

You could, but it's still a lot more performance than I would recommend for a returning expert. Here's what I suggest, but feel free to totally ignore this advice if I'm off base ;) I think you should try one of these "beginner planes" even though you have the skills for an Extra 300. If and when, like 3 weeks of intense flying sessions, you're ready to take the plunge BACK into the hobby, get a QUALITY Radio...like the NX8 ( NX8 bit.ly/3Ou7Fmk ) and then you can start following along in our radio setup videos. If money is LESS critical in this step, get the NX10 - it'll last you longer ( Tx bit.ly/3J05xSj ) since you'll get more years before you outgrow the technology for another higher level transmitter. Honestly, once you get your groove back - you can 100% handle a pseudo 3D plane like the Extra 300, but I think you might find it a bit TOUCHY as a returning expert. Just keep in mind, Ready to Fly (RTF) planes are way more wasteful ($$$) if you're going to STAY IN THE HOBBY...since you'll only need one transmitter when you're ready to settle back down into the hobby. Good luck - hope you find my advice helpful, and also consider an RC simulator, if you want to hone your skills for less cash, BUT you might just find it kinda LAME compared to the REAL THING. I think of them as a tool, not a sport. Beginner list Description | Purchase | Videos Habu STS 70mm RTF | bit.ly/3ci5eWD | bit.ly/3ontBF9 Apprentice 1.5m RTF | bit.ly/3BlSjh9 | bit.ly/3b6kCVP Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF | bit.ly/3PqNR4A | bit.ly/3J6WmQ3 T-28 Trojan 1.1m | bit.ly/3PmbxHf | bit.ly/3v8zGJi Apprentice 1.2m RTF | bit.ly/3BlSjh9 | bit.ly/3Bk60wG Sport Cub S2 UMX | bit.ly/3yYkrUs | bit.ly/3PL8vfJ

@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks so much for the reply. I actually plan to get a simulator. I unfortunately am limited on the simulator I can get because I only have a Mac. So I’ll be getting Aerofly RC and trying that out before I jump into anything. What are your thoughts on the P-51D June Nite V2 - 1.2m for someone like me? I watched your videos on it and it definitely looks like a fun plane to fly. Do you think that would be a bit too advanced for someone like me getting back into the hobby? I know back 25 years ago the pilots complained the balsa P-51s were notoriously difficult to fly, so I figured I would ask your opinion. I do plan on getting the NX8 no matter the decision (NX10 if it miraculously goes on sale).

I wonder if I didn't get it??

@@BrianPhillipsRC possibly, it was on the motor shaft with the nut i think yours fell off in the video so maybe ot was in the box somewhere loose

They were super similar...but I'd say I was flying ABOUT the same intensity too...so "yeah" - you'd have to setup a stop watch if you wanted to be 100% spot on, but I'd say 8-10 minutes is a SAFE flight ;)

I think the Ultimate is pretty much the same...they're so close, I don't even really want to say one way vs the other. This in the context of me NOT being a 3D pilot ;)

I see. thanks

I can't say that I have classified that closely, but I can give you one BAD one right off the top of my head... the XK J3-Cub - one of the WORST flying planes we've ever reviewed, and only one of the worst because it could have been so much better! As for the best, that's a really tough call. There are a TON of amazing plane, but I'd say something in the arena of the Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m (Carbon Z Cub SS bit.ly/30P5mUA ) could be a NO BS answer. I also really LOVE the Carbon Z Cessna 150T 2.1m (Carbon Z Cessna 150T bit.ly/30PJkkD ) as well...another REAL nice flying plane would be the OMP Challenger bit.ly/3oKazdF (+ AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c ) - VERY surprisingly AMAZING...the Dancing Wings PT17 (+ AR637T bit.ly/3pW3u86 ) bit.ly/3H5B3Nu - amazing ;) Sorry, I know this answer will leave a lot of AMAZING planes out, but these are some of my favorites that come to mind....I love the 80mm F16, and FMS Beaver 2.0m, and a bunch of others, but I can't have favorites with so many planes to choose from.....it's kinda over-whelming

Only the Rx - was AR636B and now AR631

Update your firmware, and see if the feature shows up. I had to do this with my DX18 Gen1.

I flew it pretty much tail heavy on purpose, but if I were shooing for more aerobatic, and less "3D" I would have used the CF horizontal stabilizer joiner, in stead of the metal one. Did you use the METAL ONE?

@@BrianPhillipsRC No I used the CF one and it was almost impossible to fly without nose weight.... I absolutely love this plane, its my go2fav and I have put over 200 batteries through it..... I do think the landing gear is "light" so I have done a mod to mine which works a treat... take a look if you get the time ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WtoS2YNQRxc.html cheers and thanks for replying ..... love your channel.... I dont know how you fit all your planes in your garage/house/hanger but keep up the great work and stay safe... merry Christmas from down under mate.

I've used foam tac and never been impressed. I think it might be more for crafts, and less for 10 feet away at 140mph flybys ;) Not sure if there is any difference, just from memory...my Grandpa used Foam Tac once in a while, but I never thought it was very good. Even BSI (my go-to brand) made a foam tac product and I thought it got TOO brittle when dry, and it was still really expensive AND HEAVY. As for Foam to Foam - good. Mucilage (hobbyking) also good, but it can come from HK dried out, so buyer be ware.

@@BrianPhillipsRC thank you sir!

There's a light on the Rx - LOL ;)

no - only if someone gives it to you, then loads of expo (probably 40-50% and 75% on the rates or less) and use SAFE. It'll be a highly stressful for the newb ;)

Its weird if you put everything by the tail on that plane it flies amazingly i had the same problem so but the battery and everything near the tail but be very careful with the receiver wire make sure not to fuck it up but otherwise ur good

thanks for the tip

You did??? How did you find and OLD version? At the LHS?

@@BrianPhillipsRC I was wrong it has the Ar 631

Thanks :)

Well, even though I don't think this plane is bad, I'm glad you're saying this plane isn't a 3D plane, since I too have a hard time hanging it on it's prop...I just thought it was me ;) I realize there are some WAY more 3D planes out there...like the profile plane, for example, but I'd like to fly one just for comparison.

There's an email in the "About" tab on the page. Click on my face, and then follow over to the right and you can email at that spot. Thanks Brian!