Maybe he had terrible con/script? We never know what happens to our opponent. I also had issues with bad div 2 and div3 players where i could not get close to them. They were absolutely bad , but i felt like my players are 60 rated and down arrow. And the last 10m i can play normaly and score a few goals. In those 80m he probably though i am a bad player and was probably surprised at my ranking after the game. This happens a lot often since the latest update. This game is not to be taken seriously.
@@ALEX86ZILBER What for some terrible update or something? I've got plenty of other games to play anyway I'm just curious on what's happening this Friday?
You are truly amazing my friend.Do you have difficulty defending because you are not a back player?Do dmf players undertake this task? My last question is, should the striker be a goal poacher and should the defenders be a destroyer or a playmaker?Greetings from Turkey, you are loved here
Build up defenders. AVOID destroyers in this role. It's really bad. As for striker, it depends on how you create your chances. Imo, goal poacher is probably best but fox in the box is better if you're going to cross the ball a lot. Defend as a collective unit
Will definitely give it a try. Do you think one or two LMF/RMFs would work instead of the two CMFs left and right? At this point in the game I am just trying to play with players I either like in real life and/or really like in PES/eFootball like Sancho, Bale, Ibrahimovic, Smith-Rowe and Fabio Vieira. I, naturally, want to be as competitive as possible and so I've been in the top 20 in FIFA and PES for years, including official championships etc., and all that by playing REAL football and not just blind pass spamming, FIFA-typical ping-pong style, but rather demolishing the opponent by fully controlling the game to my liking with as much manual defending as possible, almost perfect anticipation, always being several steps ahead of the opponent and as little AI assistance as possible... in the current version I don't even care about the scoreline. Lack of skill is so rewarded and good players so punished in this horrendous version that playing against someone in DIV 9, basically their first matches, feels almost the same as playing against top 10 opponents. While the player IDs are almost gone with the current gameplay, as mentioned in your last (perfect) video, there are still glimpses and I try to look for them. It's the only thing I'm enjoying at the moment in this abomination that is supposed to be a football game.
You can BUT the trick is, as CMFs they tuck in a little bit more when attacking. Whereas a prolific winger stats further wide and can leave you more susceptible to counters. I would definitely say have some wingers on the bench to give you the option to be more offensive
SpoonyPizzas Yes, you are right! I tried this formation with a RMF and also with a RMF and LMF... I only tried it with Prolific Wingers (Sancho, Bale) and Hole Players (Cengiz Ünder) but didn't really like it, the latter seems a bit better. When it comes to these positions set as CMF, I think playing styles that are not active as CMF, like Classic 10, can also work really well. I have noticed that for some reason a box-to-box player in that position makes great runs, whereas a box-to-box player as one of the 2 forward DMFs seems awful. Orchestrator is probably the best. About your last sentence: Exactly. I think it depends a lot on the formation of the opponent and against some formations it might be advantageous to play one or two wide midfielders. In general this formation is very nice, it totally suits my style of play. 😄
Im playing this formation with one lmf roaming flank and or playmaker winger. With prolific winger at that position they tend to isolate themselves and they tends to stay very wide.
@@БојанПавловић-е3й Yes, I have had the same experience with prolific wingers. I tried to play with Sancho, Bale, Saka and they all stayed at the sideline, whatever the situation
@@cadilillian I play other playstyles and theres same issue with prolific wingers. They isolate themselves too much. Unfortunatly not many easly obtainable roaming flanks. I had to waste more than 10 position trainings to make Rodrygo (he is my súper sub after Vini leaves in 2nd half) playing on lmf position because only RF works for me as winger.
Bro. I ended your video and immediatly went to delete my team and start over from scratch, following your instructions. First game win 2 nil. 71% possession against div2. I literally T O Y E D with my opponent, he couldn't get near the ball! must be beginners luck but I had so much fun and I felt in control of what was happening, truly baffling. Thanks Spoons
Spoony you are too good. I am playing this formation and its lovely to play with but my skill level is not as good as yours I am still losing games!! lol But its great fun to play. Thats all we can do with this game is just have fun.
@@SpoonyPizzas hahah yea may be. Need some tips on how to train the 4 x orchestrators!! I have Kimmich, Kroos, Modric, Calhanoglu, de jon, camavinga to pick from. All are GP apart from Camavinga and Calhanoglu were were the gives a ways
promising results so far, winning 6 out of 8 games. Maybe I play with slow orchestrators, Wilshere and Demirbay) Perhaps should pick De Jong and Kimmich instead, or Camavinga and Lobotka.
Slow is fine in the middle, out wide I have wilshere and szob (500 coin pass) who aren't slow. Speed doesn't really matter because it's important to keep ball
Appreciate the alternative tactics, fun to use, but unfortunately my ball retention and attacking skills are not up to par so using this I constantly get shoulder barged and done over on the counter 😢 (yes I should re-watch your attacking tutorial! Lol).
They shouldn't be able to shoulder barge as you should be able to pass in time with the options available. 424 was a bit of a struggle and opted for a back 4, man marking both wide players. All other formations are dispatched with relative ease
Amazing formation & tactic 🔥 I try this on mobile & it's so good ! I'm intend to play more with possession game & this video help a lot ! Still need work on my build up attack (and patience) since I'm so used to play QC. I try box2box on CMF position, poacher on CF & they did well. Is it ok to use build up CB on back all 3 defender because some of them are kinda slow in speed ? I'm using few defensive fullback (who also good as CB) like Costacurta & Danilo just for the speed reason but the 3 DMF really a huge help on defense.
I'm very good gamer but the problem is network connection really suck in this game. Even though your connection 4bars still have delay. 😔😡 Why they not fix the issues. 😒
You really use this JAPAN League player with this formation ? wow, what the highest Rating position you ever get ? amazing ...if i try play with same player like you do, maybe im always lose...can i do same formation but with International player ? If so, I have to find same character style in every position like you do ? then i have to buy guardiola pack or i just can use Luis A Roman manager ? You re really pro MAN...im stuck at Division 3
Thanks my dude! Check out today's video against DIV 1 RANK 57 player in the world, with me using my English team, but yes ANY team, you just need the right player playstyles in the right positions - this is so important and man marking (which I covered in this video)!
Hi, I'm using your tactic but I wanted some information. when the opponent uses the 3 strikers how should I set the markings? even when they use high wingers, the midfielders struggle to get back 
Yes. Unless its CF CF SS and then there's no need. Maybe put one midfielder on the SS but see how things go. I think you should be OK as they'll be narrow.
Creative playmaker - the hole player/classic no.10 are far too far forward. I actually hate the new Classic no.10 style. It acts almost like DLF/Hole player... really removed the differential.
Hey man, Im your long time subcriber and a big fan but this formation doesnt work.. Especially during transition and attacking situations, the FW gets isolated and lacks mobility
Hey spoony, I tried it out and liked it. Before I was playing QC and had like 50/50 win ratio. With your possession tactic I have ball possession like 70% but I struggle to get out of my own half. Very few chances and also conceded. Interestingly I was only playing against other possession teams and no Xabi Alonso QC like you always match. Is the tactic less effective versus possession teams? How do you move forward? Are you just relying on the opponents impatience and him aggressively attacking you and open spaces thereby?
Keep ball and wait for him to pull players towards you. You should always have options though. I have no problem progressing ball but I'm elite when it comes to winning aerial balls with super cancel. Often chipping ball into my character
I really hope this works for me. I reached div 1 9k place with LBC and I'm feeling I didn't achieve a thing. Just spamming and exploiting a game. This is real football and Konami hates it
Yes, the boycott is Friday. That wasn't released on Friday. Complete blackout content wise and gaming wise from me. Will be a further boycott from 17th May - 3rd June.
@@SpoonyPizzas who’s creating it?. props. We’ve been needing a new footy game for Id say under just over 10 years, pes would benefit from fifas licensees I think