EGON WATER-HUB. SIMPLEST 4X4 DIY WATER SYSTEM INSTALLATION IN THE WORLD BY FAR  

9/10. Very good effort!

@@4xoverland Many thanks Andrew, your reply means a great deal.

I pinned your comment. I often do.

@@4xoverland And I always appreciate being at the top of the list.

I thought I'm the only one who noticed, I feel better now..

Civilization has come a long way in 30-40 years in general.

I still shower that way when we go camping! Hello from Kenya!

Pomy baths are good in between showers.

@@nadeem23 Hi Nadeem, my first adventure in Africa was a trip to Kenya and Tanzania in 1986. All these years later I still remember how excited I was to land in Nairobi, the first night camping in the bush, the first animal sightings etc. I would have to say the most unexpected encounter was seeing and listening to all the beautiful birds. I didn’t really take much notice of birds until my trips to Africa and Australia, so many beautiful, colourful birds. One day, if health permits, I would like to return one last time.

Or a one stop shop for tank, creek and heating both. I'd buy the unit today but I'm not sure what to use for heating. Or a box with hot/cold output of both - dirty and tap water.

Where abouts on the camel do you stick the rubbish bag?.

@@magicalvortex On the spare wheel of my camel (dromedary to be precise) which is also called HDJ 80.

Thanks for sharing!!

I've heard that the Joolca takes quite some time to get up to temperature therefore wasting water. What has been your experience? cheers

@@cyclemoto8744 Our one is practically instant. We have a vid on it coming out in a few weeks. Quite impressed. We bought the whole kit which was around the $700 mark. I think the price of Andrew's one will be a bit of a stumbling block for many people. I thought about getting the shower head until I saw the price.

We didn't make them cheap. We made them good. Can't have both.

@@4xoverland Hi Andrew please don't get me wrong it's a great product and the idea is great but the pumps cost 30$ per piece and the automatic thermostat mixing valve costs only 30$ then without filter! I'm sorry but I don't see the price! I know that Australia is expensive but that's really over it! I wish you and Heiner much success! no hate no front thank you

@@4xoverland Yes I agree mate, as I mentioned it's been a fare while since we did our build & naturally things go up in price. So please don't get me wrong I think it's brilliant & will suit a wide variety of builds, from the Professional to Joe Blow DIY enthusiast. Regards, Steve.

Beautiful product but these new ideas are so much $$$$$$$$

It was never meant to be cheap. Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. It's made in Australia where assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON wishes to support local businesses and communities first.

Not good. This way the heater can be hidden and out of the way while with switches and the control valve accessible. Two years of fitting them to dozens of caravans, 4wd etc. Believe me. Separate is far better. Just join them with a single pipe and fit them anywhere.

I got no idea what heater to use . Why not include one? With wiring

yes and no. It mixes it only if you run the grey water pump. But no if you use the fresh water pump.

So simple but clever! So can it be used to supply fresft water to a storage hot water system and grey water to the tmv cold water system side? I don't want grey water in my Hws.

Is that R 24, 423.06 for the water boxie? 😨😨😨

@@Bubbles12345-cat Yes just the Water-Hub, not including the shower head and hose, calculated on todays US-dollar to rand exchange.

@@pounceonyou1958 Gosh! Ouch, and eina 😨

It was never meant to be cheap. Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. Its made in Australia where assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON supports local businesses and communities.

@@4xoverland It's an awesome product, that I'm sure will last for a very long time, giving excellent results. For budget builds in South Africa, unfortunately it's way above our reach. Still, it is way way better than the cheap nasty stuff coming out of Asia. Definitely something worthwhile to consider for the serious overlanding enthusiast. Well thought out, and clever design admittedly. ☺👍👋

We recommend the Aqueous 10L water heater.

@@4xoverland Thank You.

run a cable to the body or preferably battery neg.

many military and agricultural vehicles run on 24V systems.

We didn't design it for the ordinary person. We designed it to be the best system available, anywhere.

Really shouldn't be difficult to copy and make your own water distribution box for a guy with a bit of a diy brain.

I think it was mentioned early in the vid that it reduced installation time by an average of 6 hours; when you consider you'll pay over $100 an hour to an auto elec, It's a time saving device which pays for itself during installation by an auto elec, However if you do the installation yourself, this rule does not apply because nobody pays themselves $120 an hour to do an installation. However it does simplify the installation, and keep all the fuses neat in close proximity with the relays and makes fault finding a little easier as there are many test points on the circuit board, They even put in led's to indicate blown fuse if your that way inclined. I think it's a good product overall, however I usually do all that on the go and it saves on wiring distances. But for the auto-elec it saves a lot of time crimping and all you have to do is strip and connect the cable with the Egon Hub. Just my 2 cents worth as a dual traded electrical fitter / electrical mechanic with a good electronics background. Looks to be a good solid unit, and when you start pricing up all the individual components you'll see why it's priced accordingly. It's a bare bone system to keep the price low which can grow as you add more stuff to it such as relays, fuses and the like.

@@magicalvortex I build the same thing with the same pumps and the mixing valve and the box for just under $200 !

@@KB-ou5vj Yes but you don't pay yourself $120 an hour to do it. These guys have to factor in labor, parts, overheads, etc..., and they look like quality SS external fittings. The idea that I think most ppl are missing is that it saves on labor install costs. Instead of paying a qualified person to do all the plumbing work, your paying a suitably trained person to pre do it, but each to their own. We're not dealing with Chinese made stuff were you can't even buy the parts for what they make it for. When you buy Australian, the buck stops here, and your buying your kids a job.

The interesting thing about this, is that it looks easy to reverse engineer. So go for it. But don't ask me to explain why we did it this way. You'll find out in your own good time.

The only place: www.patreon.com/Andrew_StPierre_White

yes.

H2O Guzzle is a good product. I am planing to use them again in my new build.

@@4xoverland thank you Sir

we do. www.4xoverland.com/shop/

The shower head is just one part of the shower kit.

Any water heater.

there is no ideal one because any one works.

works with any water heater.

Command 60 gal tank like in Canada? U use asian one 220 volt one phase? And ground last year's 29 Thai died becose no f.. ground on ther heater

Works with any water heater.

Hi Andrew, It would be great to see what you reccommend as a water heater e.g. gas vs 240V vs 12V systems

The shower head is just one component of the kit which includes a complete set, pre-assembled for shower and kitchen, and grey water intake. We won't have them assembles in Asia. EGON supports local businesses and communities.

It can use any relay that uses standard automotive connections.

yes.

anything.

You can put a jerry can next to the fire, and dunk the hot water inlet into that if all else fails. 😅

cool! Its 10:03 am here in Western Australia.

@@4xoverland its 10:20am here in PH

It's not assembled in a sweat shop in China. It's built here in Australia. If you are doing an instal yourself, work out how to plumb it, run the pipes and pumps and valves yourself, and yes, you'll probably save some money. What is worth more to you? Time or money? I can't answer that for you.

We tested them, in over 30 of them installed all over Australia. Our two both tested on the Canning stock route. No leaks. No comebacks. We decided now that testing program is complete.

Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. Its made in Australia and assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON supports local businesses and communities.

@@4xoverland I understand an appreciate your reply. Good luck with the product sale

I might have done. We design and build for optimum quality. If you want cheap and something that sort-of-works and breaks after a year, you've come to the wrong place.

Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. Its made in Australia and assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON supports local businesses and communities.

@@4xoverland interesting. I was talking about the price of the exact same shower head unit that you can get on online for $20 yet you sell it at $479. How does that pricing work?

I think we're talking about the markup, not the quality.

It's a great all in one and I see the use case for high production shops and just past the cost to the customer that willingly pays these prices. It's a high margin low quantity pricing model. Which you're free to choose what you want. I would guess app comments on price are from DIYers like myself that would rather put in some sweat and save a few hundred and still install quality parts. Like your PCB boards. Whether is a Chinese, American or Australian robot making them it's still a robot. I'm looked into sourcing custom PCB boards for power distribution and once designed they're made for under $20 USD. The markup is for the design and sourcing. And with your kind of markup you're either trying to be millionaires in a couple years or you don't plan on selling many. The overpriced economy is slowing down and the market isn't readily paying these prices anymore. Great design though. I hope you figure out a better pricing model.

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