Eibach VS OEM spec springs. Which is better for the Alfa Romeo GTV?

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Full initial setup suspension setup on my car:
Koni Sport adjustable shocks absorbers.
Eibach Pro 20mm springs
Fully Polly bushes rear end.
In this episode I remove the Eibach springs in favour of some OEM specification springs for a better, more compliant ride on real world public roads. The results is quite simply drastic! For smooth roads or track use the Eibach are perfectly fine but for normal road use they just aren’t fit for purpose. A stiff ride doesn’t necessarily mean better road holding for normal use. I hope you enjoy the video.
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@djlosmi 3 года назад

Awesome! So nice to see you enjoying it - well worth all the effort working on the car! Good stuff!

@mark737-c4x 6 месяцев назад

That is one clean car man and it sounds awesome.

@michaelthom6005 3 года назад

Hi Rick! I’m really enjoying your videos. Keep them coming. Top tip with the paddling pool BTW👍

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Thanks Michael. Really appreciate the feedback 👍🏼

@TABRO284 3 года назад

Stock springs are the way to go. Looks perfect now.

@steelman200870 3 года назад

Really enjoyed that Rick.... 👍🏻 I went for as close to standard on mine as recommended by my Alfa Guru. Koni Street... Suplex... and all new arms with the rose joints.... also fitted a Quaife while I was at it. No complaints from me with regards to the handling.... although she's back off the road now for a bit more fettling. 👍🏻

@4ballr278 3 года назад

Another fantastic video. The new mic working great!

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Thank you Sir 🎩 👍🏼

@chokini2 3 года назад

hey rick, nice video again! I lowered my twinnie too, about 25mm with KAW-springs, koni street. it drives poor compared to factory springs, but the lowering looks very sharp, I love that and won't rebuild it anyway. conclusion, as yours: factory standard works best! they did a really good job.

@fredsalfa Год назад

I had the same set up as you and have experimented with every setting of the yellow konis. Best setting was mid setting on the rear and 1 turn from hardest on the fronts or so

@deanstanley5799 3 года назад

Looks stunning from the side Rick just like mine ! I’m on koni street shocks and suplex springs all round but I’ve gone for kyb rear shocks rides great and sits correctly 👌

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Thanks Dean. I was never a fan of how it sat with the Eibach springs, particularly on the rear. I expressed my concern about fitting them before I’d even taken delivery of them. Anyway, I’m much happier now that it’s sitting and handling as it should. Literally transformed 👏🏼👍🏼

@carsportivochannel2273 3 года назад

Hey Rick Always enjoy watching 👍 You can also get powerflex to front lower suspension arms. It gives just a little bit more sharpness in steering on the front. Have it on mine. I also got koni, but have tried different setups and now using 30mm Vogtland springs. Eibach are hard springs and Vogtland are a bit more soft. I've got powerflex both front and rear. Koni front about 2 turns and rear in click 2. Have been on some trackdays and with toyo r888 on it. It drives like it is on rails.. But not much oem over it 😂

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing your experiences and tips. R888/R888r tyres are quite legendary. A fantastic summer and track day tyre. Extremely sticky 👌🏼👍🏼

@frankwitte4016 3 года назад

Way to go!

@steverichmond3903 3 года назад

got eibachs on mine, not been happy for a long time with it and have bought a set of suplex springs to swap them out with. I think you have just convinced me to make that my next job Rick. Well done mate the car is looking awesome!

@ds1868 3 года назад

What I've noticed with the eibach pro kit on the V6 is that the rear sits a little bit too low compared to the front. I'm convinced this contributes to the problems in handling. On the TS it looks level. I don't think eibach ever got those springs right for the V6.

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Hi Steve. Honestly, you won’t believe the difference it makes. You won’t be disappointed 👍🏼

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

@@ds1868 you are absolutely right. I never liked the look of the rear end in comparison to the front.

@mastergamekanaal 2 года назад

Placing the inner tube on the spring compressor is also better for the grip on the spring. So it is more safe to work. :)

@92Aaront 3 года назад

As someone who's contemplated a spring swap I'm convinced to keep her standard - James May approves too I'm sure! 😃 Keep the videos coming Rick! I've got the twin of your car down here in Sydney 😊

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Brilliant! Enjoy, Aaron. I hope I’ve saved you a few Dollars too. Keep her standard 😊👍🏼

@miloszivny4390 2 года назад

Hi, I have same result. I put Eibach out of my GTV, but only from rear side. I use same dampers Koni :)

@benjamineden3980 2 года назад

What a lovely sound keep up the good work mate. If you don't mind replying how good are the powerflex bushes for handling and do they make the car more harsh?

@r2dter 3 года назад

Yo Rick, nice clean job as always. If you do this job again, safety wire up the coils when they're compressed. Also, you have to oil up the threads on the coil compressors with a lightweight oil, ie 10 weight ie ATF. The resistance you felt winding em has a lot to do with this.

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Hello Sir. Thanks for the tip! Exchanging tips is what it’s all about 👍🏼

@salvofarnia8046 3 года назад

I think alfa say do not use polybushes as the oem rubber gives comp,iance and adds to rear wheel steering in fast corners, aka legendary Alfa handling. The bushes are soft from new for that reason.

@rover-t 10 месяцев назад

Just found your channel and enjoyed this video. Lovely GTV. I have a 166 TS but looking at a V6 916 Spider or GTV.

@deanstanley5799 22 дня назад

He doesn’t own this car anymore and he seems to have disappeared

@jameshilder4366 3 года назад

Awsome car buddy.

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Thanks James. I really do love the thing

@jameshilder4366 3 года назад

@@_RicksGarage yup. They get under your skin.

@johnkerrjohnkerr8238 10 месяцев назад

Definitely it’s a better ride

@roasthunter 11 месяцев назад

Did you forget the cup, it was sitting on the bench when you were doing up the nut

@miodragmilutinovic677 2 месяца назад

Hi Rick. Will the previous set up with eibachs work on highways and good roads? I'm living in Dubai where pot hole is science fiction, and would like to keep the lower look of the car. Actually, plan is to fit Koni sport front/STR rear along with pro-kit. Great video, indeed. Quite educating since I'm planing to the replacement on my own. Thanks !

@Jack-cv4ke Год назад

Amazing sound, can I ask you the exhaust set up of the car? I have a 3.2 ph3 with some upgrades but it doesn't sound as good as yours I have to say!

@icandigitbabe 2 года назад

great work , such clean car below for uk. what about approx costs of parts and labour time estimates

@fiestaturbo 3 года назад

Mate, the ABS sensor didn't 100% clip in the centre of the bung at the shocky mount and my OCD is going nuts lol. Good episode Rick!

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

Hahaha Yes I rectified that off camera. Well spotted! 😂

@claudio196520 6 месяцев назад

super

@francescolomunno6225 3 года назад

hello, do you have any suggestions for the set-up of a 2002 gtv 2000 twin spark? The koni sport are only available on the rear. Same thing for Koni strt. Hello and congratulations 👍

@handyandy71 3 года назад

Good video Rik......Ive just done this job on my GTV CUP......Koni streets and Suplex springs all round and YES a total transformation.......found changing the rear springs bit of a pain as the spring pan twists and getting it back in line is a hardwork. Handling........have you got the Quaife Diff??

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

I can’t believe how much better it is. Massive difference on country roads. I couldn’t even drive it properly beforehand but now it’s just sensational. No need to dodge potholes or crawl ridiculously slow over speed humps anymore. I’m made up with it. No, it hasn’t got an LSD yet unfortunately. A little too rich for the pocket right now after completing the car but all in good time 👍🏼

@handyandy71 3 года назад

@@_RicksGarage The Diff also makes a huge difference on the V6...and not a bad job to do either.I would be intrested on what you think of the Alfaholics ARB kit tempted by those....Yes i like dealing with Alfashop too

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

@@handyandy71 yep, LSD swap should be a relatively easy and straight forward job in principle. As for the Alfaholics ARB kit, rest assured there will be a video as soon as I get some 👍🏼

@ds1868 3 года назад

@@_RicksGarage I have the Q2 Diff fitted to my 156. Night and day. Highly recommended.

@kristianmarovic7146 Год назад

Like your videos! But where is the best place to get OEM parts for alfa romeo 156 sw 1.9 jtdm 110 kw 2005.?

@marcingajko9805 Год назад

Hi, what’s the size of rims on your car ? Are those oem 17” ?

@Dogbreath1974 2 года назад

I have what you have except the powerflex, oem bushes for me. Less firm and more coupe, mini gt like

@darryllongley4025 Год назад

I've had 2 sets of sufflex springs snap after 1 year on konis

@CarLos-yi7ne Год назад

Actually you can fit and remove the Eibach springs without a spring compressor. You need to compress the spring just a tiny bit by hand to fit the nut. The Eibach is stronger because of the bigger diameter wire used. Not because the way it is wound.

@ds1868 3 года назад

As commented before for some reason the eibach pro kit springs don't work the best with the V6. I think you're doing the rjght thing by going oe spec which presumably is the Suplex you bought and keep the Koni shocks. Definitely get the Alfa holics uprated ARBs On the TS a trick at the front is to fit the ARB from the Fiat coupe. This is a direct fit but is 23mm diameter. Works really well.

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

The Alfaholics ARB kit to iron out excessive roll will be the icing on the cake for how it’s driving right now. I’m definitely going in the right direction now anyway. Thank God haha 👍🏼

@CarLos-yi7ne Год назад

155 V6 has also 23mm ARB @ Front. 👍

@Ross01111 12 дней назад

I have koni sports shocks and eibachs but have suplex springs too... Decisions

@paullloyd1276 3 года назад

Worried now mines gona be on 19s but on koni str struts hope i laugh like you when its on road

@_RicksGarage 3 года назад

To be honest Paul, running 19s on a GTV isn’t going to handle or feel great regardless of what suspension you put on it really. If it’s looks you want then just go for it and enjoy it regardless 👍🏼

@dariopaolini5156 Год назад

@Rick is there any trick to getting the spring pan arm aligned? I'm kinda stuck ATM with mine. No matter what I try it ends up being the wrong spot!

@kallievandermerwe2574 Год назад

Had the same problem, when I undid them at the rear. Mistake! If you did too, detach the front as well, then re-attach the rear end first and then the front end.

@millekrisztian 2 года назад

Question. Arent the koni shock absorbers shorter than oem shock absorbers ?

@_RicksGarage 2 года назад

On the front, yes they are

@mickyquiroga3517 Год назад

Nice video bro, where can i buy the rear wing? And the same springs but for a 2.0 ts. Greatings from argentina 🍀

@thomass8118 Год назад

The rear wing was a factory option, but was a Zender wing. They were standard on some GTV models, including the Cup.

@anderseide3471 2 года назад

What kind of front bump stops do you have? I could not see them in the video.

@_RicksGarage 2 года назад

They are genuine OEM

@peterschweitz8699 Год назад

@@_RicksGarage Weren't the bumpstops shortened in combination with the Eibach springs? On my gtv v6 with koni and lowering springs there was not enough(no) suspension travel with the original bumpstops. Looking forward to more gtv videos!