Ejections 107-108 - John Libka Ejects Chicago's La Russa & Anderson After Computer Optical Illusion

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HP Umpire John Libka ejected White Sox manager Tony La Russa and SS Tim Anderson after ball/strike calls in Milwaukee. Report: www.closecallsports.com/2021/...
If the Chicago relied on the broadcast's TV graphics, it would appear the umpire missed several calls. However, it turns out that both pitches that appear to have been incorrect in real-time were actually deemed the correct call by MLB following the game due to the long-standing known problem with computerized strike zones known as vertical zone error.
Much more detailed article about the strike zone player-umpire disconnect and computer inaccuracy, including vertical zone error: www.closecallsports.com/2018/...
The PitchCast system makes vertical adjustments after every game based on actual observed data (the graphics shown in K-Zone, FoxTrax, or equivalent is actually estimated data) and based on the post-game adjustments for this game, Libka's calls were correct and the real-time graphics were incorrect.
More about post-game processing (UEFL ZoneCheck case studies): www.closecallsports.com/2019/... & www.closecallsports.com/2019/...
This causes significant problems during games when teams think an umpire has missed a ball/strike call when the umpire was actually correct. It just takes until after the game to find out whether the real-time graphics were correct or whether the umpire was...time that teams and umpires alike do not have during the game itself.

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@tigersfan14 2 года назад

I think it was Libka that called a nearly perfect game earlier this year. PROMOTE HIM!

@almostfm 2 года назад

OK, if we can't trust the on-screen graphics to be accurate, then by the same token, you can't say (as you've done in the past) that the on-screen graphics show an umpire got the call right.

@JayD73 2 года назад

Exactly what is that nonsense

@bradt7451 2 года назад

Gil is taking everything off the post game analysis…STFU

@JayD73 2 года назад

@@bradt7451 in this vid sure but there’s plenty of others where he just uses the broadcast graphic to make a criticism of a team or announcers objection to a call.

@bradt7451 2 года назад

@@JayD73 whenever he posts a calculation it’s not based on the fanboy box. He usually uses the fanboy box to demonstrate the absurd.

@JayD73 2 года назад

@@bradt7451 sure

@politicalgangster9395 2 года назад

We should never have robot umps unless they have 97% accuracy or better. Slightly better than human umpires.

@AQUIENLASALA 2 года назад

Human umpires are awful

@thatoneguy9666 Год назад

@@AQUIENLASALA except John libka

@locustjohn3865 2 года назад

Are we going to get an explanation on the Moncada not touching home situation?

@CloseCallSports 2 года назад

Yes! It is in the queue.

@tommypierce7802 2 года назад

just watch jomboys. he explains it fine and is at least entertaining.

@locustjohn3865 2 года назад

@@tommypierce7802 I'd rather have an expert explain it than a douchebag.

@michaelkammer8329 2 года назад

For all the people complaining about the computer and what it showed on the screen and all that, the real time scoring has a problem with the up/down part of the zone and after the game it goes back over everything and processes it and puts out a corrected call if need be, which is all the numbers that showed in green. Basically the computer is not good enough to call it in real time and after it processed everything the computer “changed its mind” and said the pitch was actually a ball not a strike that it showed in real time. Could you imagine the clusterf***k you would have if they solely relied on the computer and after the game it changed its mind on a pitch and a team then decides to protest the game because the computer, which is supposed to be right all the time and never make a mistake, screwed up and that call completely changed the outcome of the game? MLB would be forced to replay the game from the point of that missed call. We would be replaying games left and right. They don’t do that now because ball/strike is umpire judgement, not the what a computer calculates.

@markwicker2664 2 года назад

MLB doesn't allow teams to protest games any longer.

@JayD73 2 года назад

How often do you use the on screen graphic as evidence of a call being right or wrong what the hell?

@adamlarue2131 2 года назад

Would like to see a video on the measurements the computer uses when determining a strike zone for each player. Do they measure from knee to nipple every player in the MLB and minors? Do they then adjust for the players average stance variation? It seems alot of the problems come from a lack of information. Do they show each player their own customized strike zone before the season? Or do they just do a lazy job on all of the Strikezone stuff?

@linollieum3742 2 года назад

At least they used to do it by having a tech operator just draw the box "where he thought it was", and since they were tech people and not umpires they admitted they often would draw it too high or too low. I'm not sure about currently, but that's the problem is how vertical zone is so flexible in reality that a computer can't handle it.

@brady13001 2 года назад

@@linollieum3742 that’s still how it is. Some guy in the truck. Aka not real.

@alanhess9306 Год назад

From knee to nipple???? That's not the strike zone. You should educate yourself before commenting.

@actuarialguy 10 месяцев назад

@@alanhess9306 The verticality of the zone is defined "... from the midpoint between a batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants -- when the batter is in his stance and prepared to swing at a pitched ball -- and a point just below the kneecap." So for most men the top of the zone probably starts 1-2 inches below the nipple. The video here is clipped fairly far into the pitch so the batter has started moving into his swing, but if you go frame by frame as it fades in and he's closer to his stance position it looks a lot like the top of the zone as defined by the rules is well above the graphic on the screen which would put the pitch as a strike. I'd like to see the what the computer draws as the strike zone in their post processing - this seems like a fairly simple computer vision task that should not require an hour to complete. All you have to do is identify the edge of the shoulders against the background and same for the belt against the uniform (belt position should allow you to determine the top of the pant) and then a simple average of the two.

@alanhess9306 10 месяцев назад

@@actuarialguyYes, I know the zone. If adam is going to mention the zone, he ought to be more accurate. I thought the ball was high as he strides toward the pitch. I have much more confidence in the post game analysis in green text than the graphic box on the screen. The only other thing to consider is where the pitch was when it crossed the plate. Too many people seem to want to judge the pitch based on where it is caught.

@SuperShawn2020 2 года назад

Finally - a responsible video about an umpire. Thank you very much.

@michaelkeller4090 2 года назад

Spoken by someone that has never been in a dugout.

@ryguy386 2 года назад

I still think that first pitch was a strike and the computer got it wrong

@alanhess9306 2 года назад

Stop it at 2:50. The pitch is clearly high. Don't pay attention to the graphic box, it is inaccurate.

@chrisnorgan2201 2 года назад

@@alanhess9306 it’s not inaccurate it’s a high zone pitch that should be a strike learn baseball my guy

@alanhess9306 2 года назад

@@chrisnorgan2201 The graphic on the screen is seldom accurate. Learn the strike zone little boy.

@subscribetwoaquafn672 2 года назад

I love this channel

@subscribetwoaquafn672 2 года назад

I disagree this channel highlights what misconception that the announcers coaches and players make on the strike zone and it defends the umpire when people are chewing them out for getting the calls correct.

@lucasblanton5203 2 года назад

If 0:21 is not a strike then how is 3:22a strike? This computer system is a joke.

@orinbrim7019 2 года назад

The motion of the pitch moves. It was a strike when it passed the player, not when the catcher caught it. Same with the one at 0:21. When it passed the batter it was above the zone and then it dropped.

@ericmausbach1808 Год назад

Oops...clicked on the wrong Tim Anderson ejection. That low pitch that was called for a strike...did look like a strike to me. I could be wrong, but I thought they're supposed to call the pitch, where it first crosses the plate...not where the catcher catches it. The spot on the screen looked like where the catcher caught the ball, not where it crossed the plate.

@MrSeezero 2 года назад

One way that you might be able to help an automatic pitch-calling computer would be to require a batter to have the same vertical strike zone throughout the whole game. So whatever vertical strike zone the hitter has on his first plate appearance in which he is not intentionally walked would be the same for the rest of the game. Of course; if the hitter is a switch-hitter, it is possible that his right-handed batting stance might have a different vertical strike zone then his left-handed one. In that case, the computer would treat those two different stances as two different hitters.

@MrSeezero 2 года назад

The only question is this: Do some hitters have to crouch down or up when the pitcher they are facing is significantly taller or shorter than one who is of average height? If this is the case then what I commented above might not be a good idea after all

@danielhetue6968 2 года назад

One of the coolest ejections you’ve ever seen in Milwaukee 😂

@jpopegames341 2 года назад

oh and Steve Stone is a cy young award winning pitcher who has been in baseball more than 40 years who has forgot more games then you have ever seen and your gonna question him too? good god dude

@1who4me 2 года назад

Right because your buddy Stone doesn’t have a bias against umpires and would side with his pitchers 100% of the time? Do you know what homerism is?

@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 2 года назад

@@Ricky-ql6ib but he isn't an MLB umpire. Gil is either a minor league umpire or some beer league umpire (I can't remember which), so I wouldn't give too much verification towards Gil.

@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 2 года назад

@@1who4me Right, because Gil doesn't suck up to the umpires since he is one himself. Gil is the biggest kiss-ass towards the umpires I've ever witnessed. Dear god I miss the times when he wouldn't talk in the videos!

@alanhess9306 Год назад

@@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 Even a beer league umpire knows more about umpiring than Stone ever will.

@acehyatt44 2 года назад

Good to see the return of the px numbers!

@austinmonaco3798 2 года назад

Two of those calls were the wrong calls. Your computer can say what it wants but based on your videos, it seems the computer caters to whatever call the ump made. I'm sorry but the 3-0 ball to Urias was a strike and the curve to Moncada was at his shins. You need a new computer if it can't figure those out

@slowtraincoming 2 года назад

We do not care if you digress or not. Just stop pointing it out and saying it so much.

@shkimshady 2 года назад

I will always be FOR science/evidence and good umpires. But I really disliked the way you narrate this video. Way too many pauses to repeatedly fill in your same points with the annoyingly arrogant tone. No need to confront every single quote and everyone in the picture that is against you. Almost comes off as being unfair even though you are right. There are ways to sound more positive and educational rather than confrontational. If you want to grow your channel, please take that into consideration. Subscribed for now.

@justingorton9596 Год назад

John Libka literally had a great game

@MrSeezero 2 года назад

One thing that we can go by if two hitters are the same height or if you are comparing two pitches to the same hitter is relative difference in position of a ball or strike call. For example if a pitch that is called a ball is closer to looking like a strike than another pitch that was called a strike then you would have a good argument without having any of those pitches going through further processing. By a form of transitive property (if a>b and b>c then a >c), at least one of the calls would be incorrect.

@nathanmiller2861 2 года назад

The circle was filled in for the pitch location. Doesn’t that signify that the computer thought it was a strike?

@gamecockdevil4 2 года назад

The computer can't accurately call pitch height in real time

@CloseCallSports 2 года назад

In real-time, the computer had a strike. After the game upon applying observed data values as opposed to estimated/expected values, the computer changed its mind. The nightmare scenario would always be 3-2 count, two outs, bases loaded, Game 7 - the stereotypical crucial moment - and the computer changes its mind 30 minutes after calling a ball or a strike, as the case may be.

@jamesbrown7047 2 года назад

@@CloseCallSports I would respond to your claims by saying that the dugout can see high and low. Also, how do you know whatever computer you use is accurate?

@michaelkammer8329 2 года назад

@@jamesbrown7047 the computer Gil is “using” is the numbers provided by MLB after post game processing. He isn’t using a computer at all, just the numbers MLB posts post game. See his comment above about the computer “changing its mind”.

@jamesbrown7047 2 года назад

@@michaelkammer8329 My point is how do we know that MLB's "post game processing" is correct? They are using computers as well. Also, in this situation, they were arguing high and low which you can see from the dugout.

@mikelp72 2 года назад

If the Strike box is wrong like you say, then don’t display it on the screen during the game. That’s just stupid.

@j6t714 2 года назад

Yes, someone needs to talk about this besides this channel.

@bradt7451 2 года назад

It’s put on the screen to draw ratings and drum up controversy. It also gives the ignorant announcers something to yammer on about. They use it for a crutch to prop up the faulty robo ump buffoonery too.

@damianlillard1981 2 года назад

If people know your name, then you’re probably a bad umpire… unless you’re John Libka and you’re the best at your job

@drawde41 2 года назад

The one at the top of the box, strike ALL day. Belt high.

@SomeSortOfLandCow 2 года назад

Belt high? Are you insane? 0:45 If you wanna argue it's a strike that's one thing, but if you think that's at his belt I don't know what to tell you

@drawde41 2 года назад

just because the batter is crouched down, doesnt make that little box his strike zone. watch the dude stand up, when he does, you see his strike zone.

@SgtHolton 2 года назад

@@drawde41 That's not how the rule book defines it. It's based on 'When the batter is in his stance and prepared to hit a pitched ball.' You might want it to be based on how tall he is, that's not the rule though.

@alanhess9306 Год назад

@@drawde41 You have it backwards. The zone is established when the batter prepares to swing, not when he stands up.

@jacksonherr1752 2 года назад

Close Call Sports Is All About MLB Ejections 2021 Season

@joshuamccoy7768 2 года назад

I like that this guy is reading computer analytics instead of visibly seeing the ball to Moncada was at his shins, and the walk by burr was at the batters chest. These players aren’t using computer graphics…… neither is an umpire.

@jamesscott3108 2 года назад

youre embarrassing yourself with this one

@devinbrown1775 2 года назад

Is this the 1st ejection over a computer Illusion.

@slaymyface1357 2 года назад

They blame the ump for being right, but not bummer for missing his spots several times

@Lol-bc3yw 2 года назад

You Must’ve not watched all the calls this game

@mcmann7149 2 года назад

A good 85-95% of the umps' calls are right but sadly, we sometimes like to think that we're better than the umps and can talk about the matter in a way we shouldn't. A very good contextual analysis of this and especially bad behavior on the commentators' part by jumping on the young guy without knowing what you're talking about

@gregpetridis3762 2 года назад

85% would be an absolutely HORRIFIC night for an umpire. Let me explain why. It doesn't sound so bad, but consider a few things. First, pitches that the batter swings at automatically wouldn't count. Next, there are "obvious" pitches. Nobody is going to call a pitch in the dirt, way up in the batters' eyes, 8-10" inside or outside a strike. And the strikes that are right down the middle and not near a corner will always be called. That leaves only pitches that are within a few inches of the corners or the vertical boundaries of the strike zone AND are not swung at that are really questionable. Miss 15% of those and you had an AWFUL game!

@SomeSortOfLandCow 2 года назад

@@gregpetridis3762 If you're missing 15% that just means you missed every close pitch lol

@bradt7451 2 года назад

This post by Mc Mann shoes just how ignorant fans are. They have no idea.

@karlmilne6446 2 года назад

@@gregpetridis3762 except I have seen umpires miss every single call that you say should be automatic like right down the middle of the plate.

@Ryanimal 2 года назад

Sometimes I roll my eyes on some of your defensive stances towards the umpires @closecallsports, however this was a good one. Nice work.

@tedgey4286 2 года назад

If you roll your eyes too much your face will stick like that. True facts. This is the least biased channel out there and what bias there is its well announced. Also, that pitch was a strike

@TeemoQuinton 2 года назад

@@tedgey4286 least biased... We've seen a few this year that show otherwise.

@gregpetridis3762 2 года назад

Right, and even if he "missed" a call or two, they were all within an inch either way. NOTHING anyone should be calling egregious.

@tedgey4286 2 года назад

@@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 words still out on the myth thing. I've rolled my eyes a few times and not seen any ill effects but still. Your choice of aircraft is admirable but I will not take criticism of my favorite RU-vid channel lightly... that is unless you let me fly that thing in which case, F these umpires

@tedgey4286 2 года назад

@@gregpetridis3762 I'm with you Greg. What profession is subject to this level of post game super slow motion computerized scrutiny? These batters need to swing the dam bat. That's what it's there for

@TheLyricsGuy 2 года назад

Have these announcers apologized?

@frankiesheehy224 2 года назад

You’re being a little unfair to the broadcasters. Jason Benetti conceded during this game that the box we see on the screen is not the more accurate one umpires are evaluated by, and that he wished they had access to it

@NolmDirtyDan 2 года назад

Dude i know, i thought this was supposed to be an unbiased channel, seems like this guy is a Brewers fan just sticking up for his team

@frankiesheehy224 2 года назад

@@NolmDirtyDan no no Gil is not biased towards any team. He’s just ignoring some of the context of these quotes

@marco529 2 года назад

The Ump Fan club.

@kjambrose 2 года назад

The pX is bullcrap if that is a strike on Moncada, that cannot be a strike

@KohlmanSweeny 2 года назад

You talk about suppling evidence for your claims. Do you ever post the actual umpire grades for the game? That vertical pitch should have been a strike. The player moved down a bit, but it was still in the zone. The one Anderson got tossed on may have been a strike, but the one angle you showed did not show where it crossed the plate. Also, Anderson getting tossed in KC was after getting hit multiple times. I am a KC fan and agree that he should have been pissed. You selectively picking out ejections without context is bush league. As every actual player and/or manager has ever told you, get better.

@michaelkammer8329 2 года назад

The vertical pitch should have been called a ball; the computer in real time said strike, but after post game processing the computer “changed its mind” and said it should have been a ball, which is what all those numbers mean that were posted in green. That’s not Gil using his own computer or whatever to make it up, those are the numbers MLB provided after post game processing. As far as Anderson is concerned, the announcers are the ones saying he never gets upset and never gets ejected, Gil wasn’t selectively picking them out without context, he was showing that Anderson has been ejected more than the one other time the announcers claimed. Everything Gil has done refutes what the announcers said because MOST announcers just say things that they know nothing about, have no proof, and are completely wrong, but the listening public believes it 100% because an announcer said it and “they obviously must know what they are talking about” when in reality they don’t. So, if I were you, I would back off the whole “get better” smartass comment considering everything in this video is accurate.

@1who4me 2 года назад

Did you watch the video? He posted the evidence several times.

@KohlmanSweeny 2 года назад

@@michaelkammer8329 The pitch was a strike. It was a the bottom of the letters. Its on the video. Gil trashes the computers when he disagrees and then hold them up like scripture when they make ups look good. Its crap. As for Anderson being upset, he has been ejected 5 times in 5 years prior to this. One of which was after getting intentionally beaned in KC and getting into it with the pitcher. I think that might be justified. Listing that and implying he has a big history of getting upset and kicked out is BS. The announcers said they hadn't seen Tim that upset in a while. 9 months ago, last season, is a while. Not never, a while.

@alanhess9306 2 года назад

@@KohlmanSweeny If you are going to talk about the strike zone, you should learn where the top of the zone is. Hint, the letters have nothing to do with the zone.

@KohlmanSweeny 2 года назад

@@alanhess9306 midpoint of the shoulders and the top of the uniform pants. If the ball is at or underneath the letters and crosses the plate, it's a strike. This one was.

@Il_Exile_lI 2 года назад

I mean, even ignoring the strike zone graphic, that pitch is right at the letters (and the batter is in the process of going down on a knee).When he's standing in his normal stance, it's very clearly not high at all.

@alexyerkey3141 2 года назад

Yeah if that’s not a strike what the hell is the strike zone

@1who4me 2 года назад

More people making calls from their sofas 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@alanhess9306 Год назад

The strike zone is established as the batter prepares to swing, not when he's standing in his normal stance.

@alanhess9306 Год назад

@@alexyerkey3141 The strike zone is explained in the rule book. Go and read it.

@BestSpam Год назад

Man that just looked a lot like a strike tough spot to be in

@bub7097 2 года назад

why do you sound so defensive towards milwaukee here lol

@JoseLopez-mh3mu 2 года назад

I was at this game front row next to the white Sox’s dugout

@ellisford5038 2 года назад

Personally I thought the first one was a strike and the second was a ball. I did go and watch the videos on this and I understand the horizontal strike zone can be different.

@bluluvsrae 2 года назад

Baseball cracks me up....Players are having a hall of fame year when they hit the ball 30% of the time. These umpires are right 90% or higher in the majority of their career, but miss a few pitches, baseball folks go nuts.....

@Stepduber 2 года назад

So 1 out of 10 pitches being call wrong is okay? Are you kidding me? Please Jaime you cant believe this!

@Quidproxo 2 года назад

All this technology is destroying the game of baseball.

@ghostmiko5762 2 года назад

Your delusional Go sox

@zooms7889 Год назад

I wonder why they don't have a computer tell the umpire whether it was in the horizontal strike zone in real time. Then they would only have to focus on the vertical one, which would likely improve performance.

@bradharkness9240 Год назад

the ball was definately low to moncada... dont need a computer graphic to see it

@cobyremp657 2 года назад

Dude I like hearing your explanations but you act way too much like a know it all, their job is to broadcast and say what they see not sit there and run all the numbers like you do after the fact. Just be a little more understanding to the broadcasters instead of constantly sticking up for the umps

@mackersun 2 года назад

My goodness I love this channel!! Thank you!!!! You just got One more subscriber !!!

@patrickweisgerber78 2 года назад

You're really going to play lawyer on them when, 1) the strike zone they are seeing is from the Milwaukee video feed because they still aren't traveling for away games. 2) "get your eyes checked"...again he is not in the stadium. 3) telling them to "provide proof" when they are calling it live? You can "provide proof" because you can go back and analyze it and look at those "proofs". 3) the "proof" that you provide is also not proof. It is reliant on rounding whether it should get called a strike or ball. That Moncada strike was within the margin of error but you still say it's the "correct" call. within the margin of error is definition of not being a definitive call. 4) you really going to lawyer up and dig through Tim's ejection history? That's pathetic. 10 months is long enough to say "a while". If you are about providing "proof" of things, don't argue subjective statements. You sound petty.

@jonkuntz4960 2 года назад

I believe with Tony LaRussa on this one that should be a stake inside

@austindrover851 2 года назад

All I see from libka is his strike zone is good... And that make teams angry

@Briansgate 2 года назад

This is exactly why I love this channel. Keep 'em honest!

@learnlovelife420 2 года назад

damn Lipka was so close to perfect game

@markmelchior726 2 года назад

Brewers fan here; in the 7th inning, the Brewers benefitted from some bad ball calls. At least two or three. Including the pitch to Urias, which was a clear strike. It led to a two out grand slam. Could've changed the outcome of the game if called correctly. Seems like this has happened a lot this year.

@jm2206 2 года назад

I don’t give a fuck what the computer says, that pitch was a strike. And I’m not a White Sox or La Russa fan. It crossed just under the batter’s number barely above belt high.

@zacharywilliams105 2 года назад

So is the digital live broadcast strike zone not adjusted on a per player basis during the game? I would think that having the mlb measure certain things such as player height, knee height, midpoint between shoulders and belt location etc wouldn't be hard for the mlb to gather info for each and every player. If we had these pieces of information for every player then there really wouldn't be much of an excuse to not be able to implement automated strike zones in the first place. The programming capabilities for this kind of technology certainly exists already; and when you consider the net worth of the MLB, this honestly shouldn't be taking as long to implement as it has been. Seriously, if we can't even trust the live digital strike zone then we really can't know for sure if any of these calls are correct or not during a live match.

@beepboopboop 2 года назад

Even if it's feasible to collect all that data (iirc the realtime vertical strikezone is based only on the batter's height), the strikezone is determined by the batter's stance, and that can potentially change dramatically from pitch to pitch.

@larrywilson6555 2 года назад

The umpires are in a much better position to see if they are balls or strikes. If any part of the ball a thread is in the strike zone it is a strike. Coaches players, fans and announcers are not in the best position to call balls and strikes.

@deputyduffy 2 года назад

Hometown announcers always have selective memory...nothing new.

@patrickdietze70 2 года назад

My issue is not as much the judgement calls, but fairness. You gotta give the pitcher something a hitter can't hit out of the park. Low corner, high corner...its not fair to pitchers if all you give them is belly button high and right over the plate! IF that is the only option a pitcher is given, hell, lets just get rid of pitchers and just start using pitching machines or tee-balls! Granted though-this fairness cannot be accomplished with computers-only human judgement. My second beef is that some of these goof balls in black try to insert themselves too much into the game. Showboats like Joe West and Ron Kulpa! Umpires should defuse situations, not start them. Way too many of these guys will toss a player for pouting even though they are halfway back to the dugout! Have some skin fella's! Guys are going to be upset! Unless they are interfering with you, or gameplay, just leave them alone! It is entirely uncalled to toss someone that is chirping from the dugout! Grow a backbone!

@bgraham7 2 года назад

Serious question: how can you defend that pitch to moancada being called a strike? More importantly how can you consistently cite a software system that calls a strike on a pitch that far down as justification in your videos to call out players and managers? I have watched a lot of your videos and think that it’s obvious that you lack experience playing or umping the game at a high level. You do not have feel for what constitutes a good big league zone and you show an over reliance on software to justify calls that no one on the field agrees with.

@ksm1717 2 года назад

Heh. What fools these announcers are to make claims without evidence instead of waiting until after the game to call the game

@darthjar9117 2 года назад

You have the luxury of being able to watch a video over and over. The announcers are seeing it in real time.

@dunerat17 2 года назад

The announcers are watching the replays as well. And what does that have to do with anything? The umpire is seeing it once, live, from behind a catcher and is getting it correct, as the announcers continue to get it wrong while belittling the umpire.

@rickhaavisto9023 2 года назад

You know who sees it in real time? The umpire!!! You are defending people criticizing the umpire by using logic that inherently defends the umpire. Maybe announcers SHOULD know what it is like when you are wrong and you don’t get a chance to correct your mistake...

@reaperw1532 2 года назад

I almost wonder if the management of this site. Did you ever play the sport?? of Baseball. Seems like you have a automatic favor towards UMPS.

@scialx Год назад

Just dont question libka, not difficult.

@briansonnenfelt7125 2 года назад

Are you going to do the Padres-Marlins game from a few nights ago where the Ump was named player of the game? I’m assuming not since his strike zone was pretty brutal

@greglipford372 2 года назад

How do we know the numbers presented are any more accurate? It a computer output, which doesn't speak at all to the criteria and programming generating that output? May be they are, but it seems like a tall order to believe there is the precision presented with so many variable at work. Just establishing the rule book strike zone from pitch to pitch using video analysis after the game seems more faith than science. And you've got to be kidding about post-game processing. Taking a broader perspective, the announcer was correct: That pitch, which is a bad pitch and hit for a homer frequently if hitters weren't trained to take it, needs to be a strike. It's clearly a rule book strike, so the processing is doing something bizarre.

@JustJoshLTRB 2 года назад

So then the fuck is the point of the stupid ass box? Get rid of it .

@linfordglick7671 2 года назад

I love how the Close Call Sports guy blasts the biased commentators. I understand stand sticking up for your team but when you say a pitch is 3-4 inches low when it was right at the bottom of the zone you really are a bad commentator.

@alanhess9306 Год назад

I always thought Steve stone was pretty decent, but the more I hear him, the more I am convinced that some of Hawk's tremendous stupidity has rubbed off on him.

@liveyourbestlife6273 2 года назад

Links didnt make the right calls, wut are u talking about???? He made the right calls according to the stupid new computer strike zone thing but they were wrong and are wrong on so many of them.... the professionals that see pitches everyday know wut strikes are and wut aren't and even they are pissed about this situation.... they need to take this dumb thing out of the game and just go back to humans calling pitches and that's it.... they get to right more then the machine and the players dont complain as much either.... the post game results dont matter either because it doesn't know the horizontal or vertical accountability of the pitch....

@FoxtasticGaming 2 года назад

Funny how you’ll jump on the computer bandwagon when it’s in favor of the umps but will say it’s a broken system when it goes against the ump call. They will never get rid of umps for computers because of the union. Because they know you can update a computer to be more accurate than the human eye and it’s unbiased. I hope one day they have system that gets human error out off the batters box. It will benefit the game and make pitchers and batters battle harder in the zone.

@falstaff2222 2 года назад

The league can move to instantly assessing the vertical boundaries of the zone whenever it decides to move to robot umps. That would be the easier part compared to the live ball tracking. It's just easier/cheaper to do the post-game processing because they don't have the need to do it live at the moment.

@patrickotoole9958 2 года назад

The game isn’t all about the computer my guy. No one really cares that much. Idk what you think you’re proving. Guys get upset and people have opinions. That’s baseball. There is no computer strike zone in the rule book. It’s opinion.

@AQUIENLASALA 2 года назад

Surprised that Tony DUI La Russa is still alive.

@roberthoward1619 2 года назад

since you seemingly never disagree with umpires, good luck defending eddings in miami yesterday, or bucknor and fairchild in cincy this weekend. hopefully you wont hurt yourself doing it.

@Il_Exile_lI 2 года назад

He's already defended Eddings. All his bad calls were conveniently within margin of error (curious no mention of margin of error in this video where it wouldn't defend the umpire), and the huge skew in favor of Miami and against SD was handwaved as good catcher framing or some other BS.

@Gmoore12 2 года назад

This video is bad lmao

@williamgroseclose1104 2 года назад

You do a great job of usually siding with the umpires. That is how you choose to see it. Setting the upper and lower limits on the zone and a camera above for width would correct this issue easily, but the umpires prefer to make their presence known as the “human factor.” A very Don Denkinger/Angel Hernandez view point.

@critter2 2 года назад

No he doesn't choose to see it he gets Facts information that upholds his point

@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 2 года назад

You do know Angel Hernandez is one of the worst umpires in MLB right? It's not a good thing to compare Gil or anyone else to Angel. Though I really disagree with Gil on this one.

@alanhess9306 Год назад

@@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 Gil is right. He is presenting facts, not opinions.

@dunerat17 2 года назад

I think it would have been hilarious to try last *season* with only robo ump “behind the plate”. Nobody to argue or interface with. Just sitting there stewing, they’d be begging for the umpires to come back. Pitchers would be laughing as they abused the verticals of the zone. Plus it would have helped with the health safety situation.

@mikek6658 2 года назад

I dont care what the dumb computer says that ball is right down the middle belly button height. It's been a strike forever

@johnfontinha2174 2 года назад

Jets j e t s jets jets

@reaperw1532 2 года назад

How about you just let these UMPS with loads of experience call the balls and strikes, not some damn computer unless that computer is above 80 % accurate.

@toadwiiremotewithwiimotion6247 2 года назад

Good job defending the umpire. Umpires get attacked left and right, even when they're right and get 96 percent of calls right on average

@Smartrinse24 2 года назад

Problem with these videos is the condescending tones you have towards reactions of players/announcers while you’ve had ample time to react to a scenario vs them reacting live in the heat of competition. You’re cherry picking situations when a lot of frustration regarding strike zones comes from inconsistencies of calls vs the zone an umpire has itself. Yes, that call to Moncada may be ruled a “strike” by your arbitrary computer, but the fact it was not called a strike consistently throughout the game is the issue. Your videos may hold better weight if you don’t come off as snarky as you do

@gavin5845 2 года назад

john libka is probably my favorite mlb umpire

@martimcshy 2 года назад

Robot strike zone will truly be the end of baseball. Completely taking the human element out of the game.

@dodgerblue1963 2 года назад

I will keep saying it! Broadcasters have no clue about calling balls and strikes. Put on the gear and call a game then I will listen to your opinion.

@larrydigangi4707 2 года назад

dodgerblue1963....well, you do know that Steve Stone, one of the Sox announcers was a major league pitcher who has a career winning record, won 25 games and the Cy Young award in 1980... right? I think he knows a little bit about pitching and what a strike is... lol

@critter2 2 года назад

@@larrydigangi4707 you be surprised what they think about strike any a ball

@dodgerblue1963 2 года назад

@@larrydigangi4707 Pitcher not a umpire! Different view.

@1who4me 2 года назад

@@larrydigangi4707 you do know that he is a complete homer and would probably have a bias against umpires...right?

@alanhess9306 Год назад

@@larrydigangi4707 Total BS. One of the many things I learned over 30 years of umpiring is that players are not very good with the rules.

@SchillerDuval 2 года назад

The Sox need to be more concerned about getting blown out 7-0 than 2 pitches…

@1who4me 2 года назад

Stop it you’re being too logical

@JayD73 2 года назад

I mean it happens?? Not really anything to be worried about this isn’t a 16 game football season

@duffyy1 2 года назад

Blow call or not it’s totally wrong for a umpire to antagonize a player. Walk away after throwing him out. Don’t stand there and make things worse. Poorly handed.

@jersdream 2 года назад

Nobody was antagonizing TA. He ran his mouth like he has over and over again.

@larrykramer2761 2 года назад

Antagonize??!! what the hell are you talking about??Libka just stood there while Anderson was running his mouth probably cussing him out

@gregpetridis3762 2 года назад

You don't know what was said on either side. I hate when people make generalizations like that. I once threw someone out of a game and everybody was yelling at me because the player was so calm and didn't say anything, EXCEPT for the fact that he very calmly said "F*** you".

@danthibodeau2058 2 года назад

It’s my understanding that when an umpire throws a player or coach out then they need to watch to make sure that person leaves. Staring at them is not antagonizing and it’s a professional doing their job. When Tim not only doesn’t leave but continues to yap his jaw and comes out of the dugout to do so, that’s an ejected player not leaving the field. The crew chief also did the right thing going to the dugout to ensure the player leaves in which Tim continues to yap his jaw instead of leaving. I completely don’t understand your opinion Kyle. I see it as excellent umpiring handled by both professionals and extremely childish behavior by Tim and frankly most of the White Sox players and coaches.

@bradharkness9240 Год назад

man this video is a joke lol... how can you watch these pitches regardless of graphics and think they were correct.

@jackherstam7935 2 года назад

John Libka is great, I hope players and managers get to know how good he is.

@jpopegames341 2 года назад

Oh and one other thing if you knew anything about the White Sox or there telecasts when they are away Benneti and Stone are using the Away teams cameras. since they dont travel with the team. do some research before you spit out bullshit

@adammiller5301 2 года назад

That was a filthy slider if you’re telling me that was a strike

@tonyweitner 2 года назад

I was at that game, and I knew the rules. Plus note: Stepping on home plate is essentially the core concept of the game

@jacksonherr1752 2 года назад

The Chicago White Sox Should Of Realized That

@mikek82 2 года назад

Libka is a solid ump. He doesn't miss many. He didn't miss these tonight either!!

@kevkool1264 2 года назад

terrible content

@stevebailey4336 2 года назад

These broadcasters whose job it is to be entertaining, have no interest in the validity of their OPINIONS; a rhubarb is more entertaining than facts.

@texassooner342 2 года назад

Yes we do have proof…. A non colored in circle shows the computer has it as a ball and a colored in circle shows the computer has it as a strike… you’ve even said it yourself in multiple videos. If you’re gonna make these videos then be fair and stop changing your story to make the umpires always look right when they arent

@1who4me 2 года назад

@@samharris8737 don’t waste you’re time on these coomers. They don’t know what it’s like to suit up and call a game

@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 2 года назад

@@1who4me We will listen when Gil is called up to be a MLB umpire, but since pigs would have to fly for Gil to get that call, we will just continue to understand that he is a kiss-ass who wants to please his fellow umpires any way he can. You all say Steve Stone is such a homer (which I won't disagree with), but you have to know Gil is also bias towards the umpires. And I'm not even a White Sox fan!