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For my fellow arrow boys, try using rain of arrows instead of barrage. dosent work for bosses that move alot, but ones that stagger and have a lot of animations its great. you use 1 arrow and like 10 rain down on the enemy. If you use blood, poison ect, you can instantly proc a effect on them, try it out!
@@TheQcStriker Spoilers below if you haven't already gotten it In the town of Sellia you can find a painting which shows a broken structure with Redmane castle in the background. The location itself is near the Dragonbarrow Erdtree on a cliff facing Redahn's battle arena and requires quite a bit of tricky parkouring to get to but its completely accessible without fighting any enemies. If you need something more specific than this and the image in the painting, I recommend either wandering around and looking at it from different angles or finding a video guide.
Another thing of note: I found a talisman that raises the attack power of arrows called the "Arrows Sting Talisman" its in Caelid at the Impassable Greatbridge spot of grace.
Arrow reach talisman can be found on top of the gate front grace in a chest. Just go to the storm hill shack and follow the rig toward the gateway on left-hand side
It would be really nice if they would allow you to pick up any arrows that you hit something with. All those arrows stuck in a target but when the target dies you cant pull them out and use them again.
This would make it actually enjoyable to play as an archer, right now it's just farming for the ability to be one it's trash. Also arrow targeting is atrocious
My take on archer build. You will either waste vast amounts of runes (progression) when buying arrows, or you will waste a lot of time gathering crafting materials. This is something no other class will have to worry about. Consider this before going full archer. I would suggest a hybrid with some other dex melee, relying on melee with some archer work.
Yeah but you also get to take all that ammo with you to multiplayer summons. Magic is a lot harder working with only half the flasks. Plus if you run some arcane with that Dex you should get plenty of mats.
@@Nostradevus1 magic is not harder it does oodles more damage than arrows, has spells that bypass shields, and can increase ammunition permanently with the mind stat. started archer, swapped to magic. 80 int and beat the game, could not have done it with a bow.
@@ghnami1352 don't forget that flasks refill from certain enemy groups and on invader kills (also there is the FP regen consumable). Honestly with this being an open world we really should have been given 180ish as the stack for arrows/bolts and 60 for greatarrows/balista bolts. 99 is far too few but at least there are plenty of types, 20 is an incredibly low and punishing number considering there are not nearly as many readily available types.
I've wanted, so bad, for "arrow capacity" to just be treated like pre-DS3 spells: give us a limited supply that regenerates whenever we rest at a Bonfire (or Site of Grace, whatever). Let us find Quivers throughout the world that permanently increase arrow capacity, and for Elden Ring specifically, keep the Crafting aspect by letting us alter standard arrows with different damage types/status effects/etc.
@@TheBlackWizaard That definitely works, too. My though process is: If you're in a position where you want hundreds of something (potentially), you may as well just have a replenishing amount. It's not like anything would change, functionally, so I see no harm.
To help with the beginning archer and getting arrows, be sure to pick up all herbs you see and sell them. They only sell for 10runes, but a stack of arrows only costs 20r and bolts 40r, thats 2 herbs and 4 herbs respectively. You can run around picking them all up and sell them to help get arrows alot faster, and these beginning herbs are hardly rare. The Rowa fruit, especially, is easy to come buy and a stack of 100 sells for 1000r! This helped me get those much needed arrows, not to mention a good way to get more runes for lvling.
Why would you spend time doing this when you could just go beat one mini boss in the same time and get way more souls? If you're doing a pure archer challenge then maybe that's different, but there's no reason you couldn't go get a quick bleed weapon and kill Greyoll for 50,000 runes.
I'll try to be constructive and help you make a better recommendation here. Go to Jarburg and farm all the rare flowers here instead. You don't have to beat a single boss or do a single thing other than skip stormveil castle and run to Jarburg. Sit at the site of grace, collect the 20-30 rare flowers, immediately press map then spam triangle, triangle, X, X, you're back at Jarburg site of grace, and you can rinse and repeat to your hearts content for an infinitely faster and more profitable flower/herb run. You're welcome!
@@Docsfortune You're constantly running right by rowa and flowers in most parts of the map. So the idea is simply to pay attention and collect them on the way rather than ignoring them. You don't go out of your way for 10 runes.
I just added some arrows that cause bleed to my existing Blood Build with a Black Bow +10. Great alternative to resort to in dangerous close range encounters.
Edit 2: ive made a little guide on how to get BOTH talismans at level 1 its nothing as comprehensive as this video but I was heavily inspired to make my own guide after watching this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aZDN6HszuJA.html Og: I found a talisman near the stormgate that increases bow range! Edit: Found a Talisman that increases all ranged or arrow damage in Caelid Lakes I thinkk on the Ramparts firing at the Impassable bridge. Gonna retrace my steps and make videos for both
@@marcuslee9132 sorry I was trying to find it on the map as it was forever ago its somewhere above the stormgate where the giant jumps down. I saw another bridge like structure and it had a doorway to an ambush with a chest and the talisman
Hahaha, when I saw the video of PC riding on Torrent and shooting arrows, it was a "Yes, I should try to make a Mongol Archer build". Thank you for this guide!
Seems like another important aspect of playing an archer is waiting for the enemy to attack and getting the timing right so your shots hit them instead of letting their shield mitigate that damage.
I'm doing this run currently and for those farming arrows at the very beginning. Bones: If you go from the shack right past gatefront (where you meet rodericka) back toward the golden seed location there is a herd of animals on the other side of the valley. If you farm these you can easily get enough bones for 60 arrows with one trip, more if you have a silver foot. Flight pinions: If you leave the coastal cave grace ( the one with a demi human pair boss) you can go out of the tunnel and go right until you see a big ruin piece. That ruin gives you about 7 birds in one location, if you use a bow they won't run as you shoot them. Three trips is enough to get over 100 arrows worth. Optional: If you go toward the coliseum from the warmasters shack you can easily find a farm for flaming butterflies. These can up your arrow game by increasing your damage very early with little extra investment. The cook book for flaming arrows is by the coastal cave grace under the ruins on the left if youre leaving the entrance.
the fact that you can even do a bow build its cool. fromsoft made the game to last for a while, i can see people discovering new weird builds and finding secrets. the game reminds me of dragon's dogma and dark souls.
@Turaglas every mainline 3D zelda is the same outside of some artistic stuff with wind waker similar to Bloodborne. Not a bad thing if what u have works.
Didn't expect bandit to be the second hardest class to start with when I picked it but I'm sticking with it. I guess I gotta spend the next 5 hours getting 999 arrows lol
Easy recipe is fletched arrows or farming souls to buy fletched arrows. (Ones without any feathers for fletching are quite terrible unless you combat lock an enemy)
Something to note when you are sniping a moving target, aim where they are going to be, not where they are cause then they'll run right into your arrows. It's going to take a bit of practice to get it right but god it helps
OUTSTANDING and thank you so much for uploading this!!! You've definitely answered a lot of my questions on the archery aspect of this game. I didn't expect you to make one so quickly but I GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS! :-) And I love the tips you threw in. If you hadn't explained the reason why an archer needs a long and short bow I probably would have just stuck with a long bow. Now I"ll carry both of them. Picking up the artifact that helps stamina regenerate and where to get it are very helpful tips as well. As for explaining about dex/str stats I'll do like you said and get the arrows with my runes instead of pumping those two stats. In the end, you have helped me with so much useful information. This video is just jam-packed with critical information on playing as an archer. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I know this video is two weeks old, but in case people still want to watch this, I have some useful information. There is a bow in the capitol simply called Black Bow (Black Bow of Pharris easter egg). This weapon has a 50 range and is a longbow, however, it comes with the barrage skill, and you can fire it like a light bow. This means you can do the jump-shots, roll-shots, etc, all while having a great range.
As someone who went for bow in my first run yes you do snipe more XD and serpents fang bow and arrows were a big help with all the boss and other monsters poison build up is good shizzz now I am mainly black bow user and I love barrage... blood arrows are so damn good.
Archer looks right up my alley- on your prophet build you mentioned a magic archer build- I’d love to see that video!! That would be my ideal way to play this game. Good video!
it would be nice to be able to equip more than 198 arrows if you’re biased to using a crossbow and bolts. FromSoftware should put an update to equip two more types of arrows in place of the two bolt slots. Plus you have to reserve how many enemies you want to take on between sights of graces. It’s somewhat easier to supplement the arrow/bow setup with other throwable weapons (bone/regular darts, cracked pots, etc.) that usually scale well with dex. Having a dagger and small shield can serve as backup weapons when you run out of arrows. It takes a lot of material and rune farming for arrows. I kinda regretted upgrading the shortbow to +3 and long bow to +1 before traveling to get the composite and horn bows. I haven’t even fought Margit yet, just been traveling and stealthing my way throughout the map. My ideal setup that I’m working on is the composite bow, horn bow or erdtree great bow with pulley crossbow and hand ballista. My backup weapons would be dual daggers (reduvia and crimson daggers) or small shield with dagger.
If you're having problem in farming runes, in the early game Spoiler just in case: In the third church of marika theres a Lake there in the lake theres a portal to send you in from of the beast clergy man sanctum from there you can farm the little guy, but be careful because they will one shot you but they easily stagger and drop 1098 runes per kill.
If you run just a little further past those little dudes to Lennes Rise grace, there is a farm route that is way easier and more efficient for early levels. Just look up Elden Ring Ball Farm. You run down a hill, watch a ball fall off a cliff for 2000 runes, then run back to the grace and repeat. Honestly there is barely any need to farm in this game. It’s nice to get like a 10k rune boost for the early levels, but after that I never had any issues with a lack of runes.
You can also go get the morningstar from the cart on the way to castle morne in the weeping peninsula, and the gold prickled foot from south limgrave. Then jump on the spirit jump vortex at Lennes rise and keep going past the eardtree around back there's another jump vortex that'll lead you to a fortress, get the site of grace up front and kill the dragon laying there by hitting the tail it takes a bit of time but with the blood loss from the morningstar it's easier, eat the prickled foot right before killing it, easiest 100k runes.
There is a great farming spot for animal bones in the south part of the map. Find the Church of Pilgrimage at the northen tip of the the Weeping Paninsula (i think its called). From the church go south west down the hill, there are 3 large groups of goats 🐐. Farm for an hour and you'll have your bone arrows full. I don't its worth the runes to buy so many arrows, you need to level.
Watching this I really want to try an archer build in the future, but I'll probably keep a melee weapon as a backup just in case. Maybe a spear or glaive, then I can do an Aloy cosplay.
I play your 100+ paladin build. If you have the stre and dex to use it, radahn/greatbow is a great tool to have once upgraded. it chunks enemies and with summons, trivializes boss fights. even tho my build isnt optimized for it.
Awesome build video on the archer type. I was curious how good would they actually be. In most Soul games arrows are never really used as a main build it seem. Melee and Magic always seem better.
The guy you are fighting at 2:47 is a 1 to 2 shot with most melee or even magic builds early on so if he posed that much of an issue with bows, i dont think bows are that useful.
I think if you don't mind being cheesy, after Godrick, you can just do the quest that'll get you to that rune farming spot and then you'll never have to worry about buying ammo.
I did an archer build on my first playthrough, and what i found to be the best skill for shortbow = sky shot. You can sky shoot to trigger enemy and right after the weapon skill you jump and do the double attack. This are 3 full damage arrows instead of one, using only one bow. And that´s not all, you then can sprint onto the enemy to do shot 4, and if he is close enough to hit you, you simply roll and get hit 5 on him. Then make your distance, and finish him off. The sky shot ability is also very usefull in some specific situations, that would be very hard otherwise. For example. To unlock the halig tree you must solve a riddle with 3 flames. There are enemies on rooftops, and Assasins on the ground. You simply can climb the roofs, to neglect the Assasins by sneaking, then hide behind walls and other objects, use the skill and this riddle is no problem at all. Of course, in ng+ I found arrow rain ability. Despite it´s very cool, I don´t find it as usefull and strong as sky shot, because if you use it to apply status effect from distance, barrage would be better, cuz most of arrows shot by rain will miss the target. It´s usefull agains larger groups of enemies, standing close next to each other, yes, but they will spread out after 1 use of the skill, and they all will be aggroed. Sky shot also can outplay blockers, because arrows come from above.The tracking magic arrow skill is the worst of all this bow skills in my oppinion. It sureley has it´s uses, against some frequently doging and mobile foes, yes, but i barley used it tbh. I know, people do complain about the scaling of bows in Eldenring, but man, to me these playstyle is the coolest thing ever, and I finished the game with the shortbow, you know why? Because if you really into the weapon and get a lot of experiences you enjoy with it, any weapon becomes a killer, regardless it´s scaling. +to mention: there are talismans that incrase the damage of (for example) holy or fire. If you have an arrwow of that type equipped, your bow will do more damage with that arrow, and it also is shown in the stats of the bow.
Appreciate this! Going against your better judgement I'm gonna pick a Bandit so knowing some short bow tips and tricks will come in handy as I get the parry timing down
I plan to be a pure archer. I started as a wretch cuz i wanna feel all natural in starting off with nothing but a club. So far im loving it. Now i just need to find a kong bow lol
I dont recomend this build unless you are looking for a challange run. This game was not balanced around a bow only run or even bow primarily. There are tons of enemies, and arrows really are not cheap.
Scaling done dirty, honestly. There is absolutely some room for the devs to believe that ranged attacks being actually good might break the game, and I'd give credit to that argument if the already-existing broken shit that legitimately already MADE IT into the game wasn't here. But you can't look at shit like Moonveil, the dragon breath attacks, frost stomp, and half the magic in the game and MANY others and believe that a viable bow build even for PvE would have cracked the game wide open.
A question on the Bandit class: the only weapon I have seen so far, that levels on Arcane is that Blood Dagger, that you get from the invasion near Patches cave. How do Daggers and Throwing Knives fit into an Archer build?
Daggers, especially Reduvia are very fun with an archer build. Mine's a little different to the one shown in the video, but I usually keep Reduvia on my character as well as Uchigatana. There is a bow later on in game that scales off of Arcane as well, which could pair nicely (Serpent Bow, in the "Abandoned Cave" near the middle of Caelid, can really run there at the beginning of the game but it'll be rough.) If you're going with Arcane it may also be worth looking into a blood infused weapon, such as putting Bloody Slash on a Long Sword, as this will help scaling better. Hope this helps!
You can do a nice 3-attack combo using a bow & arrow with dart combo. You can do the jump-shot, land-shot, and throw dart. Plus darts and throwable scale well with de.
Something I noticed in this video is using the shortbow while mounted you seem to have a much greater arch of fire AND can move at full speed. That's not been the case with the longbow, to my chagrin. When mounted the longbow is only able to be fired in an arch of something like 70 degrees in front of Torrent, and he slows to a walk when firing. It's been a drag because I've been trying to do a proper samurai roleplay and they were primarily mounted archers. Guess I'm gonna have to pick up a shortbow, now.
Wild. This looks awesome. Definitely one of my next play throughs. I never felt safe or strong enough in DS Remastered, but it looks like it might be really fun to be an archer in Elden Ring.
This seems like it would be a rather difficult build to learn - I'm used to playing Souls games with melee & magic, never touching bows - but looks like it would be a lot of fun to play once learned. Kind of reminds me of playing Scout/Ranger/Assassin in Dragon's Dogma. One question: Is there a specific reason why a torch is in the off-hand at all times when the bow isn't two-handed?
Probably that torch that keeps beasts from attacking you. This build isn't likely viable as the damage is very minuscule compared to other builds, costs a lot in buying arrows or time getting parts for crafting worse than bought ones. Jumping doesn't really work to avoid hits from bigger enemies. You only get 100 arrows of a type at a time and only 2 equipped at any one time, at least with magic you can restore FP. Finally as a status effect applying method, it's good with barrage (but you'll never get something off on a player or NPC invader/dodging enemy). Overall it's okay for early game but as the game goes on you'll fall off strongly, not even mentioning shielded enemies haha+
For anyone who's wondering about the bleed arrows that, as far as I'm aware, he doesn't mention where to get. You get the recipe at Fort Haight (to the east side of the tutorial dungeon). Once you get to the first fork in the road, head right, you'll go across a bridge. When you find the second fork in the road, go left towards the north. Follow that road until you get to Fort Haight. You'll pass a grace point, a big tree, and some ruins. It's by the water near the edge of the map. You'll need blood roses plus the normal arrow supplies to craft the bleed arrows. You'll find the roses at Fort Haight as well. Hope that helps anyone who wants to try this build. Enjoy!!
@@derricklindsey140 craft plans for fire arrows are on a vendor down on the beach, basically right below where you start, hes under a rocky alcove with a fire going
I wish someone can tell me where to find missionary cookbook 4 holy arrow can make those skeleton stop moving A friend of mine got it but don't know where the location 😐
Can you make another update video about this beginner series builds, i really like to take down enemy from afar, so i guess you guys should update beginner builds to help people first time playing Elden Ring, alot of patches has changed the game, plus the DLc released.
Given how OP so many other things in this game are, I can't help but wonder why they're still restricting archery so hard. You can spam higher damage from longer range with magic spells, so why not buff the damage on the bows and give non-magic characters a decent ranged option?
I noticed this cause I use a bow on some occasions and it's useful when trying to manual aim or shoot those damn mosquitos cause all of a sudden you just won't have range
Bro, THANK YOU FOR THIS GUIDE. I have seriously been wondering how to use my bandit properly and I been getting clapped a lot in game and I didn’t know what I been doing wrong with archery lol, also where do you get those clothes from? Can’t seem to find any good gear for my bandit.
I play a mage, but i got to that rotting Dragon in Caelid. Ezki-Something… And i couldn’t do it with magic. Every time i wound up a bigger spell that actually would do damage, like Lorettas or the Rocks, he used some sort breath when i couldn’t dodge it. So i got the Horn Bow and farmed some bleeding Arrows and whittled it down from distance, which worked extremely well. Ever since i have done open world Bosses like that, and it’s hugely useful!
I heard the bandit has the best parrying shield, that the other shields are crap to parry in comparison. I'm new to Soul games but I love to parry in other games. Should I reroll for the bandit's shield if I want to have a playstyle about parrying?
I was using that one at first until I found a sheild that had 100 physical protection. Right after you block a hit, hit strong attack and it does a counter move 😁
Farm the craft items and craft the arrows after you run out of the normal 99 so you don’t waste the good arrows on weak enemies. I try to carry 99 of each type that I can. 99 bone 99 bone with feather 99 normal Y’all catching my drift?
I don't think there is. From what I am learning, the game views bows more of a thing to use in niche instances. Playing a bow build is inherently difficult.
I don’t see the craft bone arrow option I’m crafting menu?? I see bone darts option. But no bone arrow. Please help. Need arrows!! I have thin beast bones as well.
Either Dex/Arcane, Dex/Faith, Dex/Int or Dex/Str. Dex Faith has a dagger for faith/dex scaling along with slient Footsteps and such. Assassin builds, are honestly just Dex builds with whatever helper spells you use to do the assassination. So long as you have the Dex, throwing knives will all hit pretty hard.
Thank you so much for this archer guide I love playing archers in games. Can you please do a follow up guide a more advance archer build items talisman and stuff please thank you
Would it be wise to have a short bow & longbow or short& greatbow? I know you said short and long in the video but im assuming a great bow will come into play with a lvl 50 build?
Alternatively if you don't want to be a weirdo that hauls around multiple bows to swap out in combat, you can just use the Black Bow and get the best of both a longbow and a shortbow. It has the range and damage of a longbow, with the jumping/rolling quickshots of a shortbow. Also a couple tips not found in the video; If you manually aim with L1 and shoot someone in the head, you'll deal double damage and stagger them. Jumpshots at relatively close range can sometimes manage this through lock on as well. Or if you have the higher ground and they're running at you, their movement alone will often lead the arrow into their head. The other tip is that you can get a bell bearing for buying unlimited thin bones by visiting the Warmaster's Shack in Limgrave at night and beating a boss that appears. If you stock up on thin bones, you can freely craft new arrows from anywhere when you run out, without needing to restock at a Site of Grace.
