Also they have HUGE weapon drop off now. You can't throw anything past 5 ft without a 67% damage drop off. It's a feel bad moment for sure and unwarranted. Sure the scaling was a bug but no one's ever said anything about the Erdtree Dagger that also can double dip with the scaling.
8:03 Spear of the Impaler has the same throwing ability as the Smithscript Spear, but it explodes into a fire AOE that lingers for a few seconds if you charge it all the way, and it can also be used on horseback.
From the moment I got the smithscript hammer and noticed it looked eerily similar to Mjolnir in Norse mythology, I knew I had found the weapon for me. Definitely gonna try this build now.
When I picked it up I noticed that they seemed to pattern the hammer design after the traditional depiction of Mjolnir, the one still used by pagans when making pendants of Thor and all. Nice to see those little details.
@@deixtra If you're done making yourself look dumb... It's actually a reference to the literal pagan image of Mjolnir used by those who worship Thor, even in modern day Asatru. This isn't a Marvel reference. It's just shaped exactly like the IRL Thor pendants.
They seem to have fixed whatever was causing the Erdsteel to get 1k+ AR with flame art though. It's now just a normal-ass dagger with more faith scaling.
I enjoy great hammers in the base game, so I thought the Smithscript Hammer was going to be right up my alley, but I find the windup can be quite the commitment and momentum control especially around ledges can be a concern, so I did some further testing and found what I think is a pretty good Smithscript setup. The Smithscript Shield and Axe combo. The shield's weapon skill has some excellent tracking and pretty nice range that doesn't seem to have to the same damage drop off the other weapons do, so while it may not be the strongest weapon skill, it is consistent even from furthest range. It has the potential to distrupt enemy attacks, and if you're close enough and time it right, you can get chip damage off an enemy's head at the release of the weapon and then the actual contact of the skill will hit them the back so it almost acts like a combo; of course if the enemy is too close, you're only getting the release. And then you THROW in the axe and you have quite the pair. You can time the standard strong attack to chain off the shield skill. The charged strong attack obviously doesn't get there as fast but it still hits while the enemy is trying to figure out what hit them. The axe also has a chance to stagger enemies out of their attacks. And you can chuck the axe while jumping so if an enemy gets too close you can punish while jumping back which is something the hammer can't do. The Cirque can do this and definitely has other good qualities but my issues with the Cirque are its throw range isn't great and its charged attack has a low stance so it doesn't seem to handle uneven terrain as well when throwing, whereas the axe has a nice over head throw. So while the Axe may not excel in speed like the Cirque or power like the Hammer, it does strike a nice balance of range (where the Cirque lacks) and mobility (where the Hammer lacks). Combined with the Shield, you've got quite the pair Love the Spear for mounted combat. Dip out of combat, charge the strong attack and then roll back in so that the release is happening right in the enemy's face. If you can get the timing right, its a lot of fun. Uneven terrain is a problem here though because if you get the slightest drop off a rock or something you have to start your charge up again. I like the dagger as an off hand chip damage from distance option. Throw in a couple L1s from distance, if you're lucky you can get a headshot and you're rewarded with the same animation as you'd get with arrows/bolts. Also a lot of fun
Speaking of the dagger, if you infuse the dagger with flame art or fire, and offhand it alongside something like a twinblade or spear that inflicts frostbite (like ice spear or divine beast frost stomp), you can have a very fast-paced midrange playstyle with quick chip damage that also resets frostbite. Thanks for the shield+axe tip. The shield bugged to inherit the buff of your mainhand btw.
dont sleep on the thrown daggers. went through the whole dlc final boss included with those and they can really shart on people. also on the throwing on torrent they allow drive bys on torrent like straight up rat tat tat fast atks that are all ranged on horseback lol
@@SuperMojangles Yeah their range is pretty bad, they only clicked for me once I got the Scattering Throw (?) ash of war, or something like that. A shotgun blast of knives basically, it's really damn good. And you can also pair it with the throwing shield when you need a quick longer range attack
@@SuperMojangles your not wrong. The range wasn’t great and was kinda sad about it but the dodge atk and jumping atk were so good and quick it made up for it. Enemies don’t dodge them like normal arrows etc so you just machine gun down stuff😂 use them on torrent you might change your mind shit is fun asf.
Almost 9 days in and this is the first I'm hearing of these wonky scalings. Literally everybody I've seen who've tested smithscript weapons (even myself) has described them as terrible, including some of the most trusted content creators like Youwy. Good f-ing research Khraze!
Ngl, Youwy's SotE content has been full of errors and bad takes compared to his usual quality. Lot of things are just flat out incorrect or missing important details. Like he said the heavy attack on the shadow sunflower was basically the same as the ash of war, which... No. It really isn't. Like at all. And I think he called Gaius' drill ash mid despite it being one of the most nutbusted new options on a native bleed weapon...
This was nerfed. Gutted. And no unsuable past 5 ft. 67% damage fall off now for the Spear and Hammer ect ect. They were my favorite weapons. Now i cant use them.
damage scaling double dip fixed as of update 1.12.3, so damage is way lower and more in line with other affinities - sadly they are for the most part really lackluster...
5:24 I wanna add just how strong the cirque’s guard counter attack is- using a shield or the deflect tear and guard countering throws out the cirques and does monstrous damage that can be boosted with the smithing talisman and the curved greatsword talisman
@@just_a_guy10 I haven’t tested that one out yet, worth a shot though. I wanna add tho this was pre patch when the elemental infusions shot up the damage of smithscript weapons
I've found the smithscript weapons really fun overall. I ended up killing Red Bear and really liked the look of the iron Rivet armor. After getting the Red Bear Hood and combining it with the iron rivet armor and radahn's greaves and gauntlets, I've effectively made some sort of runaway gladiator who's become a mountain man. The spear being a javelin that can be thrown from horseback, the throwing Axe being a trusy sidearm, the hammer being brought out when you need to bash some unfortunate soldiers chest in, and occasionally using the shield as a boomerang, it's a really fun play style, haven't grabbed the dagger yet but I'll get there As a side note it is so fun just launching people off cliffs with the charged throw on the hammer
Personally my favorite is Messmer's spear, which does mention itself as a smithscript weapon! It benefits from the talisman (also from the magma talisman to a lesser degree), has decent overall damage and a KILLER weapon art. I powerstance it with a messmer soldier spear cuz it's (as far as I know) the only dlc great spear that can be infused, and one of the only greatspears in general that can be infused, which I use Flame Spear on. Winged serpent Helm to make their WAs stronger, buff the offhand spear with it's WA, dual weild pokes melt bosses, literally, and Messmer's WA is there for your "Oh shit" button moments.
2200 isnt a lot. I get higher than that with the halbard from 1st enemy in Elden Ring or Malikeths blade and several other weapons in a faith build using holy weapons and many of them can be buffed over 3k
I put raptors mist on the 2h hammer and it's my anti-fire-basket stick. (Just use the power to jump fire is 10x easier than jumping, and gets a heavy jump attack every time without fail) I am normally a Frenzy build. So I need something to swap without fire from time to time
I’ve found that flame art and Sacred weapons scale the same for ar calculation. So if you’re running around in the regular area the sacred holy damage is more convenient for all the undead enemies and ghostflame dragons.
@@Browntedy doesn't really help with the pitiful reach, the other smithscript weapons have more reach and more damage (Shield, Greathammer, Cirque's, and maybe the spear? I haven't tried the spear)
@@vector2993 theres also the issue that if you two hand them and you hold down r2 strong attack one of the daggers will always miss on small targets, its great if you do jumping attacks or r1 ones just that r2 is shit because you cant have both daggers hit, also headshot DMG is great
High AR is nice and all but the damage being split two to three ways isnt. Resistances are better against split damage. So this is huge for pve and kinda mid for pvp.
Scaling is very important for damage. When i saw that Rellana's blades had c scaling for 3 stats, i could just hit the soft caps for each and deal ridiculous damage
So I havent really messed with these too much. Will yhey hit multiple times when going through larger enemies, like some soells do? Like if i chuck it through a dragon, will it still only hut once? The one wat I have been using these weapons is on my cold Dane's Footwork mage build, ive been using a flame art affinity smithscript dagger as a free, infinite ammo frostbite reset. Just put it in your off hand, and you can reset frostbite while still having access to you ash if war, and a quick switch to your staff
To bad this aged poorly, these weapons were gutted into the ground shortly after this video was posted.. smithscripts now no longer travel as far, have mass damage falloff, and lost I want to say around 600 AR in the DLC comparing to this video
I’ve found the shield and hammer in quick succession work great, shield almost always hits them from behind and gives a opportunity to hit with the hammer
Regardless..everyone's stats and playstyle WILL GUARANTEED be different than the next guy. All these 'BEST CLAIMS' are pretty much subjective to the End User ..which is the content creator. EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE IS JUST A "mere suggestion'.
Smithscript Daggers can be used from horseback as well, they're great against those obnoxious dragonflies and such. Also, I absolutely adore the Golem Fist smithscript weapon from the golems with it in Taylew's dungeon. It is phenomenal, highly recommend farming that from the golems.
Smithscript weps are my all time favorites. To be able to play as a Spartan now is peak for me. Not to mention a Blacksmith build, so gooooooood. Ty for covering these weps.
Worth noting that this _might_ be a bug, so it may or may not be patched in future. A lot of things seem to be scaling very oddly right now; ashes of war that seem like they should be extremely powerful are very weak, and vice versa. Only time will tell what is intentional and what was a mistake, so if you wanna make a build, strike while the Smithscript iron is hot!
@fable23 yeh. Allot of stuff is wonky, ther is a sword that also acts as a spell catalyst. But just like rivers of blood early on, it has no spell scaling
@@fable23 I mean while you might not be wrong the Erdsteel dagger has functioned exactly the same way with faith infusions for the entirety of the games lifespan Edit: same with the Claymans Harpoon
@@fable23 Nah what's the point of it having innate faith and intelligence scaling then 💀 I'm just pissy cause I wasted 2 ancient dragon smithing stones
