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Elden Ring Lore | Deep Dive Into the Starting Classes 

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@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Thanks for watching guys, let me know what you think of the Tarnished below! Don't forget to subscribe for more Elden Ring Lore
@amalgamation3679
@amalgamation3679 2 года назад
Awesome! Was super pumped when I saw this! Thanks for taking the time to make such interesting and informative content!
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
@@amalgamation3679 Thanks my friend! I found it an interesting subject!
@BardTheDJ
@BardTheDJ 2 года назад
This was a great video. Lot of fun and I feel there's so much information to dissect. You could even potentially revisit it after the DLC comes out or if we somehow get more information on the surrounding lands the land between. It's a stupid detail but I'm surprised you didn't mention the mad pumpkinhead when talking about the prisoners torture helm.. Also what if the rift is the rift to get to the lands between? Since we know that entering and exiting the lands between is somewhat of an ordeal. Always look forward to the next one!!
@klefthoofrobert787
@klefthoofrobert787 2 года назад
As always, your hard work is really appreciated by myself and other lore nerds :) thanks again.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
@@klefthoofrobert787 Thanks dude, it's my pleasure
@AgentSmith21119
@AgentSmith21119 2 года назад
The idea that if you start as a prophet you foresaw the burning of the tree but end up burning it yourself is so funny. “Be the change you want to see in the world”
@Iffem
@Iffem 2 года назад
sometimes you're so desperate to be right that you slam your whole hand on the scale
@Picmanreborn
@Picmanreborn 2 года назад
@Charles Hastings yo that's fucking crazy to think about😭😭😭
@jahredharrison4069
@jahredharrison4069 2 года назад
"Be the change you had godforsaken visions of in the world"
@TF-Times
@TF-Times 2 года назад
Ha. Perfect use of that quote.
@pustuleofyelough
@pustuleofyelough 2 года назад
Fine… I’ll do it, Myself
@LilCptMajesty
@LilCptMajesty 2 года назад
One thing I would like to point out regarding the prisoner class is that their origin seems to have strong links to the Carian faction. Their starting spell is Magic Glintblade, a spell "said to be the prototype of the sword-phalanx sorceries wielded by royal enchanted knights" that can currently only be learned from Miriel, someone who has been associated with the Carians since before the Shattering. The prisoner's favored stats are intelligence and dexterity, a combination that synergizes with frost weapons and magic (equipment and spells associated with the Carian family). The playstyle their equipment and stats encourage also mirror the combat techniques of Moongrum the Carian knight found in Raya Lucaria (a melee playstyle supported by tactical sorceries). Also the prisoner class does not start with the Glintstone Pebble spell, a spell of the Academy of Raya Lucaria described as "a universal first step on the journey to true knowledge of sorcery". I believe that they originally studied sorcery among the Carians before their imprisonment.
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 2 года назад
The Prisoners might be war prisoners of the Cuckoos during the Raya Lucaria civil war.
@marcinolszewski2260
@marcinolszewski2260 2 года назад
I think it is more likely he was a prisoner in Lleyndell, cause Boggart with almost the same mask description and prisoner clotches, was imprisoned there. Maybe he did something to the people of the capitat during/after the liurnian war.
@BigGuy172
@BigGuy172 2 года назад
Given that information the prisoner might very well be a (former) carian Knight.
@victorprati7908
@victorprati7908 2 года назад
The rift motif does resemble themes of imprisonment like the rifts inside the evergeols
@psyo_nade3177
@psyo_nade3177 2 года назад
Oh! So my roleplay of prisoner becoming an Enchanted Knight could be in line with lore! cool.
@chumleyhuffington1450
@chumleyhuffington1450 2 года назад
I love Vagabond! I always thought it was cool that a lone errant knight would fight to become Elden Lord, not due to any inherent belief, but rather to prove their own worth in response to being banished.
@jessegauthier6985
@jessegauthier6985 2 года назад
Also has the coolest set in the game. I've been rocking that same armour for all my 230hr playthru so far.
@yosemitesam7.62
@yosemitesam7.62 2 года назад
Same. My tarnished was a vagabond knight who grew up admiring knights and the honor they stood for and aspired to be the greatest knight to live. After witnessing the sheer power and skill of the banished knights he trained and trained to become part of a brotherhood of mercenaries feared by all. After years of traveling and serving whatever Lord they chose to follow and becoming the most powerful and feared of all the banished knights he grew tired of serving lords and decided that he himself was worthy of not only lordship but the greatest lordship to behold "the elden lord." After a bad and resentful (as the banished knights resented his leaving) separation from the banished knights he decided to grow his strength and faith in the power of the erd tree and the very dragons that he wore upon his helmet and wield the biggest, scariest, gnarliest sword of them all. Powerful in strength, faith, and the dragon communion his journey begins after the calling of grace. Shortly thereafter calling on the servitude of the two banished knights oleg, and engvall, to serve under a new more graceful and purposeful lord with a mission not only to be the most revered but also to make the lands between a better place as his left and right hands to become part of the greatest monarchy to ever be. 👍 There's plot holes but I'm working on that lmfao.
@Brute_Studios
@Brute_Studios 2 года назад
@@jessegauthier6985 I applaud you're skill and devotion.
@jessegauthier6985
@jessegauthier6985 2 года назад
@@Brute_Studios its good armour doesnt take skill to wear lol
@SADmemer.
@SADmemer. Год назад
I like it, except its open helmet
@ericcooke2661
@ericcooke2661 2 года назад
You missed that confessors were the wielders of the twinblades according to the twinblade talisman. "The twinblade technique is a tradition of the confessors, who closely guard the secret of how they preserve the momentum of their attacks."
@zsDUGGZ
@zsDUGGZ 2 года назад
Confessors wielding twinblades... Seems like they really want you to cosplay as Darth Maul
@JosefSloanson
@JosefSloanson 2 года назад
@@zsDUGGZ you my good sir just helped me figure out what my next build is.
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez 2 года назад
Makes me wonder if they're linked to the Godskin Apostles, as the Peeler is the most important kind of twinblade we can find in the game.
@emperorweskatine8999
@emperorweskatine8999 Год назад
Holy crap, as a Confessor I just switched from Sword and Shield to a Twinblade. Crazy that it’s lore accurate. What a cool feeling.
@landsquid-hm5lv
@landsquid-hm5lv Год назад
WAIT A MINUTE, I'm not my first playthrough and I'm a confessor using elanoras twinblade...
@slug6034
@slug6034 2 года назад
the confessors seem like the opposites of the recusants, the recusants hunt tarnished aligned with the Erdtree, while the confessors hunt those who have abandoned the order of the Erdtree
@Mr.Gettlebeese
@Mr.Gettlebeese 2 года назад
You!
@KRIMZONMEKANISM
@KRIMZONMEKANISM 2 года назад
Which kinda explains why they send you after one during the Volcano Manor invasion questline. Rileigh the Idle was his name I think.
@Kravenrogue
@Kravenrogue Год назад
The Confessor IS a interesting take on a "Paladin", Very different from what we see in other Sagas, now its Stealthy and "Dark", but in purpose its similar, someone religious who Hunt down the enemies of Said religion
@TheActualMrLink
@TheActualMrLink Год назад
Which also makes it fitting that you find the confessor set from the merchant on the path to Mt. Gelmir!
@skaynne54
@skaynne54 6 месяцев назад
​@AnklebitingAssassins
@akaErma
@akaErma 2 года назад
This has brought into clear focus just how many types of people have become collateral damage in the affairs of demigods and outer gods in the Land's Between and beyond. Each and every class has an abundance of motive for burning the Erdtree, whether they restore, append, or supplant the Golden Order in the end.
@seelcudoom1
@seelcudoom1 2 года назад
the idea of the vagabond possibly being the former knight of one of the demigods has a lot of potential, especially for Rykkard , finally returning to take up that spear and put an end to his madness
@alyseleem2692
@alyseleem2692 2 года назад
" What the ### did you do to yourself while I was gone?!" " TOGETHAAAA!"
@hello-gx6oi
@hello-gx6oi 2 года назад
The name now even makes more sense
@Kravenrogue
@Kravenrogue Год назад
No, our Character IS a descendent of the Original Tarnished, not the actual ones that lived there in the past
@seelcudoom1
@seelcudoom1 Год назад
@@Kravenrogue i mean your brought back to life at the start, you very well could be either a descendant or one of the originals, we know Hourah Loux was one of the original but he was one of the ones called back
@Kravenrogue
@Kravenrogue Год назад
@@seelcudoom1 yeah, that also true, good point there But we are one of the last to be brought back, and we have various Classes that looks like we a from a more modern Era, and Myiazaki said we were Descendents from the Original Tarnished, but your point Still stands, we could have been a Tarnished dead many centuries Ago, who was brought back only now, as a last Hope kind of thing, the Grace maybe tried every one, when ALL failed they tried that last Tarnished with no renown, could be open to Role-play that way
@snohnathan4613
@snohnathan4613 2 года назад
something i find interesting with the prisoner class is the specific wording in the description-that they (the tarnished) were convicted of an appalling crime. convicted of-not necessarily committed. mostly, i say that because it leaves the possibility that they didn't do anything at all-which, role-playing wise, would also allow for a lot of resentment to build up over the potential years spent with that suffocating mask on before the tarnished finally died.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Yeh absolutely!
@chiefbeegee5860
@chiefbeegee5860 2 года назад
The prisoner is definitely a reference to either the man in the iron mask or the count of monte cristo. Very cool either way.
@TheMuslimMan1337
@TheMuslimMan1337 2 года назад
@@chiefbeegee5860 Or maybe he could be a reference to Griffith from Berserk, who was imprisoned and wore a similar mask
@curts7801
@curts7801 2 года назад
Very important to note is the fact that the prisoner has the lowest stat any character can start with: 6 Faith. This character cannot use any incantations, and it takes substantial effort and investment to get the prisoner back up to snuff. The prisoner is an enemy of the church, and holds it in deep disdain right back.
@TheseUseless
@TheseUseless 2 года назад
@@TheMuslimMan1337 that mask was hardly an invention of berserk
@akaErma
@akaErma 2 года назад
My one finished playthrough was as a Confessor, and it seems thematically poignant that a former loyal servant of the Two Fingers became so disillusioned with the Order they ultimately fought to undo it.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Same my confessor became the Lord of Frenzied Flame
@zombiehippo9477
@zombiehippo9477 2 года назад
Same I even modeled mine after the original Mother Confessor, Kahlan.
@enderking6904
@enderking6904 2 года назад
My Confessor became Loyal to Ranni, after fighting all the demigods and seeing what some of the outer gods could do, it would be better to just remove all of them at once. Edit: I recall that it was Shabriri who was the last straw for me. All these dubious outter gods doing as they please trampling who these wish.
@XxRileyxX42
@XxRileyxX42 2 года назад
@@SmoughTown my confessor ended up as everything. I got every single ending except for the Dung Eater ending. So I guess I’m an all rounder?
@seelcudoom1
@seelcudoom1 2 года назад
in a way you could also consider it simply continuing to carry out the same mission to enforce the proper order, its just as you become disillusioned with the church and uncover more of the lore you realize the way things are is not the proper order
@selenalulamoon1167
@selenalulamoon1167 2 года назад
Hearing this makes me want someone to do a role play series in elden ring. Like actual role play. These classes would really help with the start.
@blueray2174
@blueray2174 2 года назад
I always start my first time with a From game by making those weird faced blue skinned purple haired abominations they let you make but for ER I went HARD on the role play made a guy that looks like a fusion between Godfrey and Radagon and called him Manni "Champion of the Stars" to one day be Manni "Lord of the Dark Moon"
@jaeclark5102
@jaeclark5102 Год назад
Already starting a story of heroes and heroines called The Elder Gods Legion
@tylerh2548
@tylerh2548 Год назад
Ironsworn solo rpg Elden Ring hack @shawntomkin !
@Hawntbawt
@Hawntbawt 2 года назад
I know some are unhappy with the shift in the assassin spell from int to FA, but I loved how either From or Martin took inspiration from both the Spanish inquisition and the middle eastern origins of assassins, as well as Martin’s themes of light casting shadow to create a really cool order. It’s a shame we never meet Crepus or anyone else from the order. Maybe DLC, or at least an interesting RP concept.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Yeh I really like the Confessors and their role within the faith.
@yurinoworry
@yurinoworry 2 года назад
Is Rileigh Crepus or did he just kill and steal Crepus’ stuff?
@AntediluvianGirl
@AntediluvianGirl 2 года назад
@@yurinoworry Raleigh is a member of the order because they're wearing the confessors set, which also explains why the recusants want them dead
@SorowFame
@SorowFame 2 года назад
@@yurinoworry he’s probably an apprentice or something. My guess is that most confessors get a Black Key Crossbow and a vial and you just lost yours.
@holyspear26
@holyspear26 2 года назад
I just want to point out they have invisibility for intelligence schools. And there is an ash of war that turns you invisible. They stack with each other to make you almost perfect invisible in pvp and can’t be locked on to.
@dylanfarrow6901
@dylanfarrow6901 2 года назад
The barbarians essentially being the OG tarnished will forever be cool to me. Amazing and enlightening video as always.
@kizami3
@kizami3 2 года назад
The irony. I began with samurai, discovered dragon communion and began to level arcane for bleed and faith for the spells. Then slowly moved to self buffs and statys debuffs before going in for the hemorrhage. And then my exploration and disdain to burn Melina sent me down the path of Frenzy. I went insane trying to find what Shabriri/Yura was talking about and finally found the three fingers. And my 'faith' faltered at seeing the tomb where Kale's people where sealed away. Then the madness continued as the path to deeproot opened to me, and I found Godwyn's corpse. It wasn't until I got down there that Melina left me. And I wandered the frozen peaks alone, confused, and found Okina and the White Reed set. This completed my new, maidenless look and my new source of faith, Rivers of Blood.
@AegisKHAOS
@AegisKHAOS 2 года назад
I like your samurai story alot. Funny how so many of us saw the samurai going down the madness route, since my main/samurai also ended up finding the Three Fingers and got the Frenzied Flame endings first. Mind you, his story went more like this: he fell down that platform too many times.
@Ancor_Vantian
@Ancor_Vantian 2 года назад
A *Frenzied-Samurai-Dragon* combination, my current build, is _insanely_ overpowered. Fire buffs, like 'Flame, Grant me Strength' work very well with Faith buffs like 'Golden Vow'. Rivers of Blood, and the Eleonora Twinblade deal both Fire and Bleed damage, meaning they get stronger. Frenzy incantations are mostly Fire-related so they also get stronger. Pair these with some Agheel's Flame, and maybe some Ekzyke's Decay if you want an even easier time. And all of this can be used with the Dragon Communion Seal, which enhances Dragon incantations, and has a high level of Incant Scaling.
@tescobakery1927
@tescobakery1927 2 года назад
Mr. Worldwide
@Mantis-ti5ve
@Mantis-ti5ve 2 года назад
Grats you played the stock standard generic way everyone else in the world did with samurai bleed cheese and RoB
@caseycox1002
@caseycox1002 2 года назад
@@Mantis-ti5ve Too true my man, too true.
@claytonbarham8755
@claytonbarham8755 2 года назад
I personally always thought of the Prisoner as a former Carian Knight. While likely not Canon, the network test offered the Glintstone Sorcerer and Mage (aka Carian) Knight as as starting classes, which were replaced with the Astrologer and Prisoner respectively. The Prisoner in Elden Ring starts with the same estoc, staff, and sorcery that the Carian Knight in the network test did, and that sorcery is one associated with the Carian royal family (iirc, all sword or blade sorcery is Carian in origin, and the one the prisoner starts with specifically mentions it being a prototype for other Carian sorceries). In Elden Ring, the Carian royal family is a defunct organization, with the manor in ruins, the Queen senile in the Raya Lucaria archives, Ranni pursuing her personal agenda, and very few non-phantom defenders left. It's possible that the Prisoner is Carian Knight who survived the war with Leyndell and/or the civil war with Raya Lucaria, and that their 'appalling crime' is nothing more than still being alive when the victor wrote the history of the conflict
@mikaelwallentin..
@mikaelwallentin.. Год назад
Wow that sounds so cool of a backstory. They were convicted of a crime making us ourselves choose if we did ir didn’t do the crime
@jakobrenner2230
@jakobrenner2230 Год назад
Or could it be the reverse? The Prisoner could be a Cuckoo Knight who got imprisoned precisely because of high treason against the Royal Family.
@dontmindme9323
@dontmindme9323 7 месяцев назад
Well if you look at the rift shield equipped to the player and that class, I’m sure your crime had something to do with the Frenzy Flame and possibly the Frenzied Flame Village in Raya Lucaria
@TheBestOfAll2010
@TheBestOfAll2010 2 года назад
For me the Wretch has been abducted from the end of a Dark Souls game for entertainment and experiments by an outer god and after getting bored of them, they were ditched in the Lands Between as a tarnished with nothing but underwear, a stick, a golden seed and a LOT of anger.
@toodleselnoodos6738
@toodleselnoodos6738 2 года назад
“I’m here to kill chaos.”
@alexkuhn5188
@alexkuhn5188 2 года назад
Sounds a lot like something Zelretch would do.
@the_ideal_grease5565
@the_ideal_grease5565 2 года назад
The ultimate testosterone build
@alfalldoot6715
@alfalldoot6715 Год назад
Not even a seed, my tarnished had jack shit
@krishonk7754
@krishonk7754 Год назад
The wretch got isekaid
@CannonXG
@CannonXG 2 года назад
The vagabond set looks like a well used version of the knight set you can buy at the roundtable imo. Doubt there is any lore implications to it just a neat detail.
@Night-Lord
@Night-Lord 2 года назад
Only real implication is that your character has been wearing it for a very long time
@AJ.Arciniega
@AJ.Arciniega 2 года назад
Altered looks nice as it reveals a pack, daggers, and what looks to be a water skin. It really adds to the banished knight backstory.
@johnnapi52
@johnnapi52 2 года назад
Wouldn't say that the Vagabond doesn't have any lore. The armor is clearly a "tarnished" version of the Knight armor which would make them a banished knight of the Roundtable and the motherland mentioned is the Lands Between. The crest is the same on both, also happens to be the same shape as Godfrey's armor. My take is that the Vagabond was a follower of Godfrey much like the Hero is a follower of Hoarah Lux.
@MarcoLoewenherz
@MarcoLoewenherz 2 года назад
​@@johnnapi52 I absolutely agree. That was my interpretation as well.
@Bender_B._Rodriguez
@Bender_B._Rodriguez 2 года назад
@@johnnapi52 I never really looked into item descriptions for backstory because someone would start videos like this eventually. I started as a confessor because I wanted to do faith and buff stuff like old D2LOD paladins and it didnt work. Unless you spend only so little fp to do buffs you better be good or you just spend a lot of time buffing up just to die in .01 second. So I just made a hodgepodge of stuff to help out like lightning spear for a good ranged attack, dragons breaths for rot and flame to hit AOE, black flame for things like plants. Then I run around with a multitude of weapons, 3 different swords, a shield, and a seal with a bow for back up range that my spells just cant reach. I tried making a pure confessor build based on the ideas of what all their items mean and well it didnt work.
@violettreglio2933
@violettreglio2933 2 года назад
on the subject of the mysterious rift on the rift shield, i had always assumed that it was the same kind of rift as we see evergaol bosses step out of, especially since that connection to the evergaols made sense being a starting item for the prisoner class. perhaps the prisoner themselves was not trapped in an evergaol, but rather the symbol of an evergaol rift was synonymous with prisons of all sorts, and would have been emblazoned on the arms and armor of a prison guard, explaining where the prisoner got it from. in fact, to take it a step further, i propose the theory that the prisoner was once a page, maybe one who rejected their master and was punished for their transgression. to make it fit the appalling crime they were accused of, maybe they even murdered their master. the estoc that the prisoner wields is the very same weapon of the pages, and both also are said to live among nobility. note that the starting quote said the prisoner lived among nobility, not that they were nobility.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
That's a great shout
@jbark678
@jbark678 2 года назад
Rogue page? That's a good one.
@feralbunnydonut8495
@feralbunnydonut8495 2 года назад
I played as an astrologer numan and went with Rannis quest line before I even knew that canonically it fit my characters back story lol
@battlericky17
@battlericky17 2 года назад
Did the identical path
@battlericky17
@battlericky17 2 года назад
Did the identical path
@RMWestcott
@RMWestcott 2 года назад
Did the identical path
@blingsing5383
@blingsing5383 2 года назад
Did the identical path
@BOT_GPT
@BOT_GPT 2 года назад
Did the identical path
@glebthereviewer
@glebthereviewer 2 года назад
I started as a Prisoner and sort of role-played him as an heir to some Carian Knight, who was disgraced and placed in jail for a crime he didn't commit. My guy basically tries to re-learn the sorceries of his ancestors, reclaims his proper armor and, obviously, stumbles into Ranni, later on becoming her Consort. I played him more like a fragile young man relying on Carian Sorceries, not a dexterous trickster, but as he claimed the Moonlight Greatword, he became a true Royal Knight. Never role-played anything in any of FromSoft games, but my playthrough as this Prisoner turned Consort changed everything.
@ВукВуксановић
@ВукВуксановић 9 месяцев назад
Maybe go outside to touch some grace and find yourself a consort
@knightcaelum968
@knightcaelum968 2 года назад
A couple points about the Confessor class that I'm surprised wasn't touched on. The special black key bolts that are used with the crossbow actually inflict scarlet rot as well. "Bolts used in Crepus' Black-Key Crossbow, an assassin's tool of exquisite craftmanship. The intricate spiral tip bores deep, injecting scarlet rot far into the flesh of its target." That paired with the target you go after in the Recusant hunt using the scorpion stinger makes it seem like Confessors used poison to kill, Scarlet Rot in particular. Confessors also seem to be known for fighting with twinblades, Twinblade Talisman reads: "A talisman depicting a twinblade and a confessor. Enhances the final hit ending a chain of attacks. The twinblade technique is a tradition of the confessors, who closely guard the secret of how they preserve the momentum of their attacks. Thus is the final strike of their onslaught all the more deadly."
@zsDUGGZ
@zsDUGGZ 2 года назад
With the description of the twinblade talisman, I like to think that the momentum preservation goes in tandem with flowing water, as it prevents the scarlet rot they use from affecting them.
@dannyd.9932
@dannyd.9932 2 года назад
I like the bandit because it implies that among the Tarnished that left with Godfrey there was those who weren’t warriors or knights but were still chosen and fought with Godfrey as part of his army.
@RockyRockthrow
@RockyRockthrow 2 года назад
I assumed that some of the Tarnished were descendants of Godfrey's original army that's why they have such disporatic origins
@Duv1995
@Duv1995 2 года назад
YESS, one of the most interesting things of fromsoft games is classes lore. Knowing more about your character's background gives the opportunity to roleplay them and get even more immersed in the game world. It's so sad that this part of the lore is always so rarely discussed or even ignored by most :c
@seelcudoom1
@seelcudoom1 2 года назад
interestingly that despite both being members of the church both the faith classes have reason for you to oppose the golden order built in, the prophets are obvious having been exiled by the church, but the confessors to have reason to oppose there former masters, as they are already familiar with its darker aspects and were possibly exposed to heretical ideas from those they hunted, plenty of places for them to become disillusioned along the way
@soarel325
@soarel325 2 года назад
Don't think the prophets were exiled by the church, but by the scared general public
@rotshepherd3817
@rotshepherd3817 2 года назад
Or awakened.
@Mikael_Ore
@Mikael_Ore 2 года назад
@@soarel325 and the nobility
@piratekingthaszar7912
@piratekingthaszar7912 Год назад
I thought it would be funny to pick confessor, but my character is literally just a random catholic inquisitor that was dropped into the lands between. "These misbegotten creatures are not made in the image of our lord, God! Purge these so-called "demi-gods" and bring his light to this unholy land! DEUS VULT!!!"
@thestralner6335
@thestralner6335 2 года назад
its interesting that the astrologer starts with glintstone arc, given the description. it seems like part of the reason they came to the lands between was to further learn glintstone sorceries, as an "heir to the school of glinstone sorcery". with this, it doesnt make sense that they departed from raya lucaria, and were given glintstone arc, still clad in astrologer gear. my speculation is that their teacher, who taught them glintstone pebble from outside the lands between, still remembered the courtesy of teaching glintstone arc to those embarking on journeys, and bestowed it to them. just a fun bit of speculation, but it may imply the existance of glintstone schools in other lands.
@sneezewax3567
@sneezewax3567 2 года назад
The astrologers predate Raya Lucaria. They lived in the Mountaintops of the Giants and their decendants became the glintstone sorcerers.
@thestralner6335
@thestralner6335 2 года назад
@@sneezewax3567 im aware. it is interesting that astrologers live on, still going by that title. im not really certain whether the game implies that player characters were among the tarnished who were banished with godfrey, or if they are simply their descendants, but i'd think the astrologer we see is a pretty modern one. i see now that glintstone must be pretty normal to modern(?) astrologers, given the existance of the astrologer's staff. lots to think about
@thestralner6335
@thestralner6335 2 года назад
"modern" astrologers might be speculation nonsense
@MediumChungus223
@MediumChungus223 2 года назад
@@sneezewax3567 Raya Lucaria absolutely existed before the tarnished were exiled, as Radagon left Rennalla and Raya Lucaria to join Marika when Godfrey was banished.
@LanguageAndBrain
@LanguageAndBrain 2 года назад
Land of Reeds is probably a huge homage, if not exact reference to, the Sekiro's land of Ashina, as "Ashina" means "Reed" in Japanese (hence the reed fields in opening and ending of the game). Possibly, the land of reeds is what Ashina came to be after the Shura ending, as bloodthirst demon (shura) engulfed the land.
@ethanwashington6789
@ethanwashington6789 2 года назад
With all the references to eastern lands in fromsoft games, I hope they'll eventually make ashina canon in the lore of a future game, as a sort of crossover. That's just assuming sekiro never gets a sequel, though
@SorowFame
@SorowFame 2 года назад
Isn’t Ashina in Japan though?
@ethanwashington6789
@ethanwashington6789 2 года назад
@@SorowFame oh fuck i forgot about that
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 2 года назад
@@SorowFame well that only leaves one conclusion, *Japan itself is canonically in Elden Ring.*
@HuggyBuddyOwO
@HuggyBuddyOwO 2 года назад
@@SorowFame that's why the description of samurai class, it's a "distant land of reeds" A warrior from a far away land, has been graced and thus began his journey through the land between.
@TerribleWarden
@TerribleWarden 2 года назад
Hoarah loux might have been like Genghis Khan during his time in the Badlands. In the sense that he has many MANY descendents
@EredinLore
@EredinLore 2 года назад
00:59 Appreciate using the barred door at the CoA to match with the Prisoner class
@dark-ambition
@dark-ambition 2 года назад
I've always imagined the Vagabond starting class as one of the original Tarnished, who left the Lands Between alongside Godfrey and his warriors in the Long March of the Tarnished.
@alyseleem2692
@alyseleem2692 2 года назад
" The march was long, my Lord.... But I found you, in the end." " Brave Tarnished. Thy strength befits a crown."
@kwan2110
@kwan2110 2 года назад
Something interesting I saw Honored Madman point out is how the Bandit Set is similar to the Raptor's Set. And the fact the Raptor's Set is meant to imitate the Deathbird
@minespatch
@minespatch 2 года назад
Poor Bandit. Smoughtown just dumped on them. "Generic class from Dark souls"
@DonPetexX
@DonPetexX 2 года назад
A very interesting parallel of the blood star and the formless mother is how the former is a sorcery that uses the life-force from the individual to manifest if we go with sepuko skill takes life from the user to work they also rely on faith. The formless mother also works with blood but it doesn't take from the individual her incantations need attuned (arcane) to the forbidden and they come directly from her. Also the mother seems to demand devotion as seen with mogh but the blood star so far just chills and grants power to those who see it since the guilty are made blind then they see the star not backwards.
@SeventhSeraphOfficerRevolver
@SeventhSeraphOfficerRevolver 2 года назад
One thing is perhaps the blood star is the formless mother however it is seen from a distance and thus simply resembles a distant light. Another thing is that Mogh is partially blind due to his horns. Maybe the followers of the blood star are attempting to follow the formless mother and yet do not fully understand it, perhaps due to a lack of the omen curse. As both Mogh and Morgot (the big slash in the second phase during which he cuts his hand before slashing) use bloodflame.
@tonyawwwno3364
@tonyawwwno3364 2 года назад
I find the idea of someone's first play through being the prophet to be really neat.
@jessegauthier6985
@jessegauthier6985 2 года назад
Goddamn these bots are becoming an embarassment to youtube...
@ghostfaced4893
@ghostfaced4893 2 года назад
@@jessegauthier6985 for real.
@aquaesque3490
@aquaesque3490 Год назад
Characters that I want to play in future playthroughs: 1. Confessor who, finding the demigods unworthy of grace, takes up the god-slaying black flame to slay them all and restore proper Order. 2. Prophet whose visions of firey ruin lead them to the Frenzied Flame and ultimately the destruction of the world. 3. Samurai who arrives in the Lands Between as much to flee the bloodshed of the Land of Reeds as to seek the Elden Ring, and who ultimately finds a worthy master to serve in Ranni.
@lucasgamerdk2984
@lucasgamerdk2984 8 месяцев назад
I am Literally doing a “Prophet under the influence of the Frenzied Flame”, it’s really fun and good roleplay material
@GrayBones896
@GrayBones896 2 года назад
My theory about the Prisoner's crime was that it had something to do with the 3 fingers as many frenzy incantations go through the left eye, the one that's covered by iron. Secondly, the 3 fingers are under Leyndell so for someone born of royalty, the sewers would be pretty easy to access. But their faith is the lowest of any starting class, and they use Carian sorcery so they could just have just betrayed Caria in some way.
@MrHappyinmyhead
@MrHappyinmyhead 2 года назад
The Bandit Armor set is the base for the Raptor Assassin Set, which may suggest either the bandit class is a disgraced raptor assassin similar to how the highwaymen enemies are disgraced foot-soldiers, or that the raptor assassins were recruited bandits
@LegoJolazStarkiller
@LegoJolazStarkiller 2 года назад
The prisoner class may have ties to Sellen. Both were once well-respected in their communities but both were imprisoned. It may well be that the prisoner was a student of Sellen or somehow associated with her.
@Warlock_Sack
@Warlock_Sack 11 месяцев назад
Always liked this idea. My thoughts exactly.
@yugiano8073
@yugiano8073 2 года назад
Very nice video, FS did a great job at making the starting classes expand the infos we get right at the start of the game. Also about the samouraï we can also link Yura to it since he uses the Nagakiba and wears the Ronin set which links him to the land of Reeds and make another connection with the Formless mother since he hunts Mohg’s bloody fingers and particularly Eleonora who drops the Crystal tear that protects you from the Nihil move.
@monkeysbrains
@monkeysbrains 2 года назад
all of the stuff connected to the blind swordsman and Crepus is really interesting. I hope we get more info on them in dlc.
@knightofarnor2552
@knightofarnor2552 9 месяцев назад
Blind Swordsman boss fight 👀
@Jenkss
@Jenkss 2 года назад
Fantastic timing, just got home from a 14 hour work day and looking for something to watch and relax with. Thanks mate.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Nice one Jenkss, hope you enjoy
@rogerith7905
@rogerith7905 2 года назад
I knew of the story of "Man in the Iron mask" when I did my first play through that's why for most of that play through I never took it off my characters face, I always took it as that my character would have weard it for so long that they have a mental dependency for it now and so when I decided to take it off, it felt it was only appropriate to take it off after a life changing event, that life changing event being when I placed the ring on Rannis finger.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Prisoner was my first class and kept the starting outfit as far Leyndell!
@rogerith7905
@rogerith7905 2 года назад
@@SmoughTown incredible! Prison buddies
@hassandurant6861
@hassandurant6861 2 года назад
@@SmoughTown I think it's so cool that the helmet's great stats encourage you too keep it on for a good long while
@amanwithnoplan7648
@amanwithnoplan7648 2 года назад
And then the octopus hat went on
@topcat59
@topcat59 2 года назад
a Prophet that see the fated truth. a Warrior that walks the path of his predecessor. a Samurai that seek something more than just blood. a Astrologer that wishes to gaze upon the star’s. a hero that walks the path of a vicious beast that once ruled the lands. a prisoner that was not only stripped of his nobility but also his identity. a confessor that once served the fingers in the shadow. a vagabond knight that has Lost his honor and glory. a bandit that’s seek a throne that he will never have. and a wretch that was robbed by his fellow kin. Warriors each of them, chosen by grace. What they do in these lands is something only you will ever know.😺
@Hawntbawt
@Hawntbawt 2 года назад
Idk man pretty much the ultimate goal for most samurai players is RoB xD
@thestralner6335
@thestralner6335 2 года назад
i think theres some flavor in the fact that the prisoner only starts with magic glintblade, despite it being implied they were once a powerful sorcerer. probably through their torture, they had forgotten, or lost the ability to call upon sorceries, outside of the most basic, prototype carian sorcery, magic glintblade.
@SereTheDoggoUwU
@SereTheDoggoUwU 2 года назад
The description of the prisoners mask is 100% a reference to Griffith. Especially the part where it says “slowly fermenting hatred within their heart”
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
For sure, fairly undeniable the links
@Hawntbawt
@Hawntbawt 2 года назад
It can reference more than one thing. That description is also perfect for “The Man in the Iron Mask”
@skinless5136
@skinless5136 2 года назад
@@Hawntbawt crab man’s mask is much more similar to the man in the iron mask
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
@@Hawntbawt I agree - I think it takes bits from both
@jakobrenner2230
@jakobrenner2230 Год назад
Hmmm makes me wonder, what kind of Elden Lord would Griffith be?
@KakeemDude4
@KakeemDude4 Год назад
I find it really interesting that the Prophet, a believer in the Erdtree and the Golden Order, is cast out because they simply saw a vision of it's end. And it is presumed that vision comes from communing with the Greater Will. So even though the source of the vision ultimately comes from their god, the society of the Golden Order casts them out. It's a small hint to me that the Golden Order as it is now within the Lands Between may have some key differences to the reality of the Greater Will. Being so distant and separated from it's celestial origins, perhaps The Two Fingers and the Golden Order have become a bit more concerned with self preservation as compared to the Greater Will, which has a more cosmic outlook on things.
@edhart8583
@edhart8583 2 года назад
In regards to the Bandit class. The Bandit starts the game with the highest Arcane out of all the classes. Arcane which has ties to Blood incantations and Dragon Communion incantations. So you could build a story that the Bandit is loyal to the old guard of the lands between, the Dragons, before the two fingers. A rebellious group of Dragon worshippers that undermines the new order by causing havoc and disruption whenever possible.
@ckenshin3841
@ckenshin3841 2 года назад
One thing notable about the Prisoner is that the spell they have is a Glintblade sorcery which belong to the Carian Royal Family. However the Magic Glintblade that the Prisoner specifically comes with reads to have been a prototype to the Phalanx sorceries that are more commonly used by the knights, and not a part of the official sorceries of the Carian family. The most common of the Carian spells, Glintblade Phalanx and Carian Slicer are learned from the Royal House scroll, however the Magic Glintblade is absent from this scroll. The only person who can teach you Magic Glintblade is Miriel who is a very old being that has knowledge of alot of the history of the Lands Between. Speculation may lead that the Prisoner may have been an older noble who had knowledge of the art before being thrown into jail, or possibly they were a thief who was imprisoned for stealing one of the Carian family's oldest spells.
@Duv1995
@Duv1995 2 года назад
A nice little detail is that if you compare them you can see the vagabond's armor is just a worn off and modified version of the knight armor you can buy from the twin maiden husks in the roundtable hold. That must have been what vagabond looked like when he was serving their kingdom with shiny full armor.
@zsDUGGZ
@zsDUGGZ 2 года назад
I just wish I could get a clean version of the vagabond cape in the knight armor
@aidanru.2469
@aidanru.2469 2 года назад
The lore of the Hero, Samurai, and Warrior classes makes me wish that FromSoftware will make DLC storylines based around them. Like seeing the life of Hourah Loux, or even aiding a daimyo in the Land of Reeds.
@symbiote3220
@symbiote3220 Год назад
The fact that the blind swordsman backhand slapped the same god that manhandled the lives of the two most badass swordsman in the lore speaks volumes
@thomasvarney5758
@thomasvarney5758 2 года назад
An interesting backstory for non-Reedlander samurai I thought of was that they’re a mercenary who moved East after the Long March but didn’t give up soldiering after the experience they gained in Marika’s army.
@TheOnlyWarman
@TheOnlyWarman 2 года назад
The part where astrologers lived close to the fire giants made me think of Rennala and Radagon, Rennala being an astrologer who saw her moon atop the mountains and Radagon a descendant of these giants.
@SorowFame
@SorowFame 2 года назад
“You’re also from the Mountaintops? We have so much in common!”
@thaddeusgigachaddeus2954
@thaddeusgigachaddeus2954 2 года назад
I wish after beating the game we had some new options for our starter class, like starting as a banished knight or a nox warrior
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
That's actually a great idea for replay value
@stygianabyss1386
@stygianabyss1386 Месяц назад
This sort of thing is why I love new game +. I tend to start each new game cycle as a new "class", and I often make up my own
@km0.ccarthy
@km0.ccarthy 2 года назад
Never noticed that the blood madness wording, especially for it being tied to "a star in the darkness". Sounds a lot like Hyetta describing the light of the three fingers. Wonder if the formless mother is acting as a bloody three fingers of sorts. Wild.
@impositor.
@impositor. 2 года назад
the bandit might actually have a background. in the sages cave in the altus plateau we find that one chestpiece that makes jump attacks stronger and i believe it resembled the bandit chestpiece but with feathers as a cape in addition. so the bandits might be connected to these bird assasins (sorry i forgot some names).
@vereornoxx
@vereornoxx 2 года назад
I just always had the feeling that the Lands Between are like Lordran. Sure there is an outside world, but the fate of the world gets decided here (Lordran and Lands Between inherit Gods/Demigods too)
@abaddon130
@abaddon130 Год назад
For me it's like Demon's Souls where the limits of the land are engulfed in a fog where you trespass to outer lands. Maybe the world rules of the lands outside can be different and not be influenced by the Lands Between.
@brandonf.6495
@brandonf.6495 2 года назад
I love all the Souls community creators but you and Vaati are truly topnotch! I always look forward to watching your videos and it's amazing you can make them so good and so quickly! Keep up the awesome work! BTW it would be cool if you could cover the official lore from the guide when it releases! Sadly it got delayed for like 3 months
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Thanks Buddy! Yeh a great idea, I have them both on preorder so may be a good one to cover
@JayBe443
@JayBe443 2 года назад
Your videos make me want to start a lore friendly build in game. Great job on the lore! I really do appreciate all your hard work.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Thanks Joel!
@voidraider9016
@voidraider9016 2 года назад
It's always a treat to see that you have a new smoughtown video in your notifications
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
@tomf8093
@tomf8093 2 года назад
The secret 11th class lets you play as Sir Gideon Ofnir the All Knowing but only Smoughtown has unlocked it. Can’t wait to see what you’ve got in store for us today chief.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Hope you enjoy Tom
@mrrd4444
@mrrd4444 2 года назад
Gideon the One Who Knows Some Things 😂
@samueltitone5683
@samueltitone5683 2 года назад
I get this is a joke, but some kind of class balanced toward both faith and intelligence would’ve been cool.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
@@samueltitone5683 Like a Golden Order Scholar?
@huxleyleigh4856
@huxleyleigh4856 2 года назад
@@SmoughTown a fundamentalist of radagon!
@gabez95
@gabez95 2 года назад
It’s rly fun to choose a starting class and making up your own background for your character in ur head
@colt4505
@colt4505 2 года назад
You've created such a great channel, my guy. Great work.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Cheers Colt, i really appreciate your support
@jasperfox6821
@jasperfox6821 2 года назад
I never knew starting classes would have lore, by this point its Fromsoft tradition for starting classes to be just that. But Awesome video none the less ^w^
@SorowFame
@SorowFame 2 года назад
The assassin in DS3 is heavily implied to be a Vinheim Spook
@holyspear26
@holyspear26 2 года назад
@@SorowFame Close. He’s the third member of the black hand assassins. All he’s missing is the cloak and hat. Black hand armor is identical. May still be a vinheim spook but definitely a member of the black hand. This video failed to mention the bandits armor is a cloakless copy of the raptors of the most armor set.
@garcalej
@garcalej Год назад
I like the Hero class. Something tells me they know the answer to the Riddle of Steel.
@SuperJohn1011
@SuperJohn1011 2 года назад
Notably. Carian spells are normally glintstone swords, floating or otherwise, and the starting spell is also a sword. So possibly the Prisoner does have a direct tie to the Carian royal family
@Doomseer
@Doomseer 2 года назад
Regarding the bandit starting class I definitely believe they're in some way connected to the ravenmount assassins considering the fact that their armor set is the same as the bandits with the only addition of course being the raven feather cloak. Furthermore their fighting style is extremely similar considering just like the bandit they go up close and personal with claws which is very much so akin to the bandits knives or pelt enemies from afar with fan daggers which is akin to the bow. Also they both heavily rely on stealth and subterfuge and with all that in mind I feel as if the ravenmount assassin is in the very least the natural evolution of the bandit.
@ellipsis5345
@ellipsis5345 2 года назад
This was one of the best lore videos for Elden Ring I think I’ve ever seen. So many tidbits I’ve never heard before. Kudos!
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Really nice to hear that! I got really interested by it when I was doing some related lore on the prophet
@miomio6890
@miomio6890 2 года назад
Having something to listen to while studying is so nice, thank you!
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Enjoy and good luck with the studying!
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez 2 года назад
Something to note about the Vagabond set: it's a more rough and battered version of the Knight set you buy from the Twin Maiden Husks. Equipping their pieces back and forth, you can see the similarities, and the stats are generally the same with minimal difference.
@Raven_Exp
@Raven_Exp 2 года назад
My first playthrough I was a confessor and was led to the frenzied flame ending by player messages and I removed the cape for aesthetics. I had no idea the starting classes even had lore
@splunkmastah4609
@splunkmastah4609 2 года назад
Two videos I’d love to see: a video on Grafting, and a video on Madness (Shabriri, the frenzied flame, the merchants, three fingers,Vyke, etc)
@khajiitimanus7432
@khajiitimanus7432 2 года назад
Some things to mention about the Rift Shield: 1) It boosts focus, which increases resistance against Madness. 2) The rift resembles an eye. 3) Besides being starting equipment for the Prisoner, the only way to acquire a Rift Shield is by purchasing one from a Nomadic Merchant in Liurnia.... Specifically, the one near the Grand Lift of Dectus _and the Frenzied Flame Village._ 4) There is a tower near the Frenzied Flame Village, where a group of the afflicted chant for an ominous Eye of -Sauron- Shabriri, which in turn will constantly inflict Madness on anything in sight. This is an obscure connection, certainly, but... if we consider the basic lore of the Frenzied Flame, particularly concerning it's creation and how the Nomadic Merchant Caravan was sentenced and buried below the ground... well, it might shed a spark on what crime the Prisoner could've been convicted of: _Something_ related to the Flame of Frenzy. There's certainly a vague, subliminal connection to be made, especially concerning how much Berserk has inspired Miyazaki in the past. The inspirational connections the Prisoner has to Griffith aren't to be ignored, especially considering how... fragile... Griffith's sanity was, ever since a few days before he was jailed. It certainly hadn't improved during his tortures, and certainly hadn't when the Eclipse occured.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Yeh great shout, could certainly buy that
@khajiitimanus7432
@khajiitimanus7432 2 года назад
@@SmoughTown Ah, I just saw your reply. Yeah, I had that connection for a while now. The points you mentioned about Griffith inspired me to add that part at the end - there's a lot of Berserk parallels to be found in most of FromSoft's recent works.
@coroarc8423
@coroarc8423 2 года назад
you are by far the best elden ring lore youtuber, keep up the great work!
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Thanks Ernst. Will do!
@yael4171
@yael4171 2 года назад
Been looking forward to this all week can’t wait to hear what you have to say this video
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Enjoy Yael
@god_speed_chillin
@god_speed_chillin 2 года назад
This came with such good timing, I was itching to make another character & this makes it so easy so thank you!!!!
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
You are most welcome! I love the backstories
@Jerkovski
@Jerkovski 2 года назад
love the video man. could you make something on the different races that you could choose from? i thought the game would give us more about the dragon kin or the night folk but i was disappointed when i didn't come across anything that detailed their origins in my playthrough.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
This actually the second comment asking for this, and I am interested in looking at something like this.
@HitTheR0ad
@HitTheR0ad 2 года назад
27:04 my first character was a Hero class, and my weird build was "stre, int and Faith". He was a hero who hunted dragons (so I could use dragon enchantments), used Radahn greatswords and tried to catch moonlight so just like Radagon, I could use magic. It's kind of funny to think that my Tarnished was kind of kin to everyone: Kin to Nepheli, Kin to Godfrey, and Godrick and Godefroy and Godwyn, he defeated renalla and beat her sons, but marrying Ranni for the Age of Stars... then beat Malenia, Mohg and Morgot, Radagon/Marika and the greater will. Now I know why Miquella doesn't want to come out from the coccon.
@ColdEmperor
@ColdEmperor 2 года назад
You're a mad man! A MAD MAN!! I find it hard to go for more than 1 offensive stat since I feel so disgustingly weak doing it. 2 strikes that balance of being strong but not dying to a breeze.
@HitTheR0ad
@HitTheR0ad 2 года назад
@@ColdEmperor You better sit down, what I'll tell you may shock you: I'm on 5th NG+ and my stats are still below 60 because I don't focus on anything LOL. I must say, the first time it wasn't difficult (not because I'm good, but because the game gives you a lot of options to deal with enemies/situations). At first I was getting STR to use the Colossal sword, I defeated some bosses in Limgrave, Weeping Peninsula and Caelid. I defeated Margit... until I crashed into Godrick (incredible as it may seem), which made me change strategies (put few points in vitality, dex and arcane and use the reduvia to get to his second phase faster, switch to curved long sword and use ashes that would remedy the damage he was going to give me - he was such a slow boss and with so much delay in attacks that I lost myself -; explore for summons that lasted longer, find Nephelli and, at the second phase, enter in rhythm with the sequence "Holding out to a Hero"... no joke). In the same way, my first fight with Radahn was sad, either I was very good at dodging, or I went up the levels (one hit from him would kill me)... then on the fourth attempt I deduced from the lore that his weakness was rot, then I used Breath of Ekzykes; and it fell apart (and this before the first nerf, I did it on the second run as a test, and it died). I started to level up my vitality by facing the Spirit of Godfrey (because I couldn't take two hits with me) and since then this character's build is "to be mediocre in everything, but to have a good punch" (the bad thing is that as much as I could use magic, on the first run I barely used magic, but I had 30 levels of intelligence). It's a good challenge!
@dylanschmeichel2008
@dylanschmeichel2008 2 года назад
Regarding the roleplaying aspect of the vagabond, thats actually exactly why I chose it as for me I wanted to create a character that was banished from their homeland and therefore sought power, i.e. the Elden Ring and becoming an Elden Lord to then meet out revenge upon an enemy house that within their homeland had eradicated the lineage of said banished vagabond for the sake of seizing authority, basically A staged coup of sorts. I felt like that sort of ambition revenge story really meshed well with the premise of Elden Ring.
@AdanyKai
@AdanyKai 2 года назад
Thanks to This Lore on classes. Us the players can start creating, our own lore on the character we picked. Here's Mine. The Warrior - A warrior that once served Malenia but ran away from battle against Radahn in Caelid. Must redeem themselves by Clearing the rot, killing Radahn to complete the unfinished work of Her Mistress Malenia and finally taking her Mistress place by killing Malenia. She decides to choose the Age of Duskborn Ending because she believed that the demi-gods were corrupted from immortality and decided to bring back destined death in the Land Between. The Prisoner, a former Royal that was betrayed and forgotten by The Golden Order. He decides to take the Elden Ring and become Elden Lord but realized, he is tarnished. He then meets Ranni the Witch and learns of her story of being an empreyean. He decides to help Ranni in her quest to dethroned the greater will and at the end choose the Age of Stars ending. He becomes Ranni Consort, allowing him to technically still become a Lord. Samurai - He is a disgraced samurai and becomes a Ronin, wondering the land between and is recruited by Melina to mend the Elden Ring. Finding a purpose he decides to follow his new maiden mission. After Journeying the lands between and killing the Demi Gods. He realizes that this place is no better than his home place, the Land of Reeds. He learned of the three fingers and it's origin. Realizing the cruel nature of this world decides to burn everything down. Melina hears about this treachery and after He visits the three fingers, she abadon her tarnish. After the Flenzied Flame ending, Melina goes and hunts down her former tarnished to destined death.
@jadedbreadncircus9159
@jadedbreadncircus9159 Год назад
This was a great unique Elden Lore video in the sea of it all.
@demosugar
@demosugar Год назад
Currently doing my first run. I watched hundreds of hours of other people's playthroughs before getting the game myself, and I chose prophet because the people I watched didn't end up doing much with faith, so I had the most curiosity about incantations. Learning that the prophet foresaw the burning of the erdtree, I'm really pleased I happened to choose it, it's super fitting given my pre-existing knowledge of the game
@armandowillem
@armandowillem 2 года назад
I started as an "undead immortal" Samurai. I thought of my backstory as being "killed" in the wars spoken of in the armor description for my class. After my first death I ended up being transported to the beginning of the game in the lands between, waking up in the church of anticipation. Confused and feeling forsaken, as an honorable death in service of my master was denied me, I ventured out into the world of Elden Ring to die again and again, still denied my honorable death, ignorant and lost until being informed of the story the game presents. Thinking that becoming the Elden Lord will allow me to finally find peace in an honorable end I pushed through the story to become a Lord myself and hopefully find a way to either set the scales right, find a way home to the land of reeds or to die for good and stop being recycled in the endless succession of battles and deaths. So the Duskborn ending was my ultimate goal after getting all the other endings, and acting like every time I started a ng+ I came back not only with everything I gained on my previous journeys, but also with my memories of all the deaths and events that happened, prior to my present position, intact. That's my head canon for my character anyway. Edit: I didn't intend for my personal story for my character to line up or borrow from any other previous pre-existing material or intellectual properties. It came about naturally in my head during my first days playing the game. All similarities are completely coincidental. Ps: There is nothing meant to be "edgy" about my story. Just tragic and motivational to keep trying to do better and reach the goal I set. That's the way I intended my personal experience with Elden Ring to organically unfold and after 200 plus hours I'd say, "I got my money's worth." Pps: I'll thank people not to Sh*t post and keep it positive. Thank you.
@ryansmiffey96
@ryansmiffey96 2 года назад
that's actually such a cool character backstory lol
@armandowillem
@armandowillem 2 года назад
@@ryansmiffey96 thankyou
@ranbojd1070
@ranbojd1070 2 года назад
oRiGinAl OC DoNt sTeAL edgelord
@loureed1226
@loureed1226 2 года назад
ok
@machine1685
@machine1685 2 года назад
I really like the story you came up with for your character. Someone seeking honorable death in a world where death has been sealed is interesting and I wish we couldve met a character with a similar story in the game. Just to get their perspective on things.
@kexaman
@kexaman 2 года назад
Can’t wait for you to reach 100k! Been watching since around 15k and it’s been exciting to see you grow so much in such a small time. Absolutely underrated lore-tuber
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Thank you , amazing to hear youve been with me for a long time!
@Lila_S.
@Lila_S. 2 года назад
Another great video, Smough. Prisoner class is the one I am most interested in as well. Off topic, but I am contemplating whether Fromsoft may throw us a curveball with DLC and not go with Miquella or Godwyn, but possibly with The Land of Reeds, due to the civil war, blood-soaked madness description. And if they have some Sekiro unused content, it may be used here.
@knightrandal
@knightrandal 2 года назад
This video is insanely good! I had no idea there was this much lore connected to the starting classes.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Thanks dude!
@scottsyrup2750
@scottsyrup2750 2 года назад
I forget where I read this (please feel free to help me) but one of the english mistranslations was that one of the item descriptions relating to the Land of Reeds was a direct reference to Ashina in the Japanese text. Such as Okina and his mask are direct references to General Isshin, like The Eccentric's hood is a reference to Slave Knight Gael. While after defeating Isshin in Sekiro his memory reads "At his peak, Isshin Ashina devoted himself to deadly conflict in pursuit of strength. A single-minded killing machine of a man", but in here he is more akin to Shura. Also the weapon Rivers of Blood is the Mortal Blade you get in from Sekiro(it is a sword that can kill the undying), and its ash-of-war, Corpse Piler, is a faster replicate of the Mortal Blade's combat art: Mortal Draw.
@martinevans3503
@martinevans3503 Год назад
This is impressive! It's clear you've put some thought into this. Well done
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown Год назад
Thanks Martin!
@warhammertrash1626
@warhammertrash1626 2 года назад
Great video! I had a question: would you consider doing a video on the character templates? I'm interested in the Draconian specifically, and haven't found any lore on them in my travels, along with the Northerner and Seafarer. Might be cool to see what everyone else found!
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Yeh I've had this suggested a few times and it is a great idea actually
@gregwise5655
@gregwise5655 3 месяца назад
This video is incredible. Very well done and after years of Elden Ring lore videos the warrior break down offered new insight that I appreciated.
@donovantheplayboy599
@donovantheplayboy599 2 года назад
Are the "wings of unparalleled strength" she gained from learning the waterfowl dance, made into reality by her or the rot god upon her transformation into the rot goddess. It could be her physical manifestation of her ideals and principles she learned from her master. Or it could be a cruel joke from the rot god, given to malenia as she has to rely on his power to rise when she previously used the waterfowl dance and the metaphorical wings to resist the rot in the first place.
@wiegraf9009
@wiegraf9009 2 года назад
Yeah I think it maybe implies she ended up fighting the Blind Swordsman (her mentor) and that activated her rot powers, probably killing them in the end.
@toodleselnoodos6738
@toodleselnoodos6738 2 года назад
That is true. The Deprived and Wretch are my favorite classes because they start with nothing. I generally like to play them by keeping them using as little as possible and letting the use of spells, tools, and other effects make up for it. Always fear the naked man!
@kylecherpy2842
@kylecherpy2842 Год назад
I believe the rift shield is connected to the Flame of Frenzy, mostly due to the rift that overtakes your head in the Frenzy Flame ending and also because the same shield is sold near the town that was overtaken by frenzy
@jacobavondet4490
@jacobavondet4490 2 года назад
My favorite account for Elden Ring lore at the moment, thank you for all your hard work I look forward to your videos like I look forward to days of from my job
@halcyon6098
@halcyon6098 2 года назад
i started out as a wretch. ended being Lord of the Frenzied Flame.. 🤟🏾
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Hell yeah
@Archimonde45
@Archimonde45 2 года назад
Everyone knows that The Land of Reeds is in a civil war over the collection of Amrita.
@henryh7140
@henryh7140 2 года назад
Really cool video, thank you! I had never thought about the starting classes as parts of the lore and some of these were really eye-opening.
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Thanks Henry, glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you taking the time to watch
@megalodonsneeze6517
@megalodonsneeze6517 2 года назад
Fantastic video again SmoughTown! I'm excited to see the expansion of lore once the DLC get's announced and released. I know you did some very good videos on Blasphemous and I'm wondering what you have in mind next after Elden Ring and all the DLC's are done?
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
I have a few things in mind, I'll keep covering ER, Also Demon's Souls and Blasphemous leading up to the release of the second game!
@thusadragon
@thusadragon Год назад
I had a great time picking Vagabond for my first playthrough, not only because it suits my playstyle, but also because I conceived of a cool character around it. She wanted to find a faction worth serving, but having been banished once, she was also skeptical of people in power and wanted to really see what they were about before committing. She started wearing Carian knight armor instead of her vagabond armor as she began Ranni's questline, to symbolize that she found her cause worthy.
@slushygamer8237
@slushygamer8237 2 года назад
I'm already excited for this vid!
@Le-pharmacien-du-coin
@Le-pharmacien-du-coin 2 года назад
Your vidéos and your work are absolutely amazing. Since I platined Elden Ring I didnt want to disconnect from it's world and dived deep into your containt and watched it all. Big up from Tunisia
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 2 года назад
Hey dude, thanks for the kind words. Really Glad you enjoy my content!
@sk8legendz
@sk8legendz 2 года назад
this was cool. helped to get a better idea for how to better create a character backstory.
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