Elden Ring Lore: The Psychology Of The Gloam Eyed Queen 

This is one of those increasingly very rare occassions where I get a random recommendation and find it quite engaging. Two minutes in and I had to go back to the first vid. I enjoy long-form content on Elden Ring, and particularly enjoy takes that go beyond the fantastical. Your take makes the most sense to me and is quite relatable - I ain't no Hoarah Loux but I've got quite a few Seroshs that take turns.

Oh! You might appreciate the pun that I found: Malenia is the Blade of Miquella The Blaidd of Miquella Wolf of Miquella Shadow of Miquella Also, great interpretation of the blade of calling and black knife blade!

Really love the deep dive in to psychology. So many threads to pull in the world of Elden Ring, the insight into Marika's psyche is fascinating.

I don't know why the algorithm (choice shadow) slipped up and blessed this humble Tarnished but I am now subbed, time to binge!

Pure pleasure to watch this type of ER content. Thanks for your job!

Intelligence is granted to beastmen, not humans. At least cinquedea doesn't mention humans, but beastmen specifically. "The design celebrates a beast's five fingers, symbolic of the intelligence once granted upon their kind." Here are some other random hodge podge of item descriptions related to having five digits, intelligence and being a beastman: Having gained intelligence, the beasts must have felt how their wildness slipped away as civilization took hold. It is said that in the time before the Erdtree, stones were the first weapons of the beasts who had gained intelligence. The beastmen have always fired earthenware jars for the express purpose of making shields. Such are their ways, strange though they are. The blade is incredibly heavy, but well-balanced. Comparatively easy to wield for the damage it delivers. It's clear the beastmen possess knowledge beyond human ken. This incantation represents the fury of Gurranq, his bestial nature returned, as much as it does his restless agitation. Greathammer with a striking end modelled to resemble five beastly claws. The black nails protruding from golden fur are said to represent Serosh, Lord of Beasts, who went to become King Godfrey's Regent.

Subscribed. I think it’s far to assume that Jung influenced anyone in the making of this game. I believe his work simply goes into the making of people like Miyazaki and George, which then brings about these great stories. You have to be the second lord enthusiast to peak my interest in a long time, the other being the tarnished archaeologist. Your understanding of psychology and the way you apply it to this game truly makes sense and you deserve more views. Thank you for all of this.

Amazing! I just discovered you, this was an incredible analysis! I'm always happy when people find the spiritual depth of these games! I used to always have the idea that Dark Souls is a person and all their aspects

Great observations! I especially like the idea that the Lands Between is Marika's inner world where she is god, repressing all that she deems undesirable. I'm curious how viewing the story of the Shattering through this lens recontextualizes the events. Is Marika's extensive research of Order and destruction of the Ring akin to shadow work? Ego death?

THESE are the kind of lore channels that get my brain activated. Love it. Instant subscribe.

You have no idea how long I've needed someone to put to words the connections this game and Jungian psychology have! Im abouts to binge watch all your glorious works!

I loved making this video and discovering all the hidden meanings behind all things Gloam-Eyed Queen! I hope you all enjoy it! Don't forget to subscribe for future video's :) Lore Series Part 1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aEb_NoHZtXE.html Inner World Playlist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FxFnvjbuEfE.html

19:01 That watery part of Leyndell used to contain the Nameless City that now lies in ruin at the Deeproot depths. I think Nameless Singer on reddit laid this out. But that part of Leyndell (brain)) corresponds to the position of the Temporal Lobes in the brain which helps access memories. So essentially the nameless city being buried underground is akin to a lobotomy. Maybe that's why it's nameless... because Marika doesn't want to give it a name, or to remember her part in the night of the black knives and the sacrifice of her son Godwyn. Because this city is also in close proximity to Godwyn's Deathblighted body and was also the home of the Black Knife Assassins. They resided in that part of Leyndell when it was still part of the city. As below so above: Farum Azula is another place associated with Marika's memory as TheCenteredTarnished discovered and explained in another video, and it's in the sky. In direct opposition to the deeproot depths that never see light, Farum Azula is always lit. Lit af. At this point it seems like the night of the black knives was an inside job! Destined death can't melt unalloyed gold... I think you've given us a key to the lore that's opening up a lot of doors for me lore-wise. Thank you!

I hope the next video is about Miquella(and his other self st Trina) since the dlc is gonna be about him. He has something to do and his brother Godwyn and his death root are in the way.

Wow, this is incredible. The gloam eyed queen’s godslayers slew gods that opposed marika herself, not with the godslayers as opponents of marika or her order themselves

Just discovered your channel ! You are doing a great job ! If you take a look at Marika's hairstyle, you can see that she only has one long braid on her right side, which shows an asymmetry (or an unbalanced psyche, her real face is always hidden and she seems to be missing her left eye...is it the gloam eye you see on her daughter Melina face ?) I wonder is this a conscious choice on her part ? What's most interesting also is that the people who are really against her order are other women (Ranni, the gloam eyed queen before, Fia, the black knives) excluding the d*ng eater lol and the prominent masculine figures are either exiled/imprisoned (Morgott/Mogh, Malekith and Godfrey who are all beast-like) or dead/unconscious (Godwyn and Miquella)... Miquella's androgynous seemingly the closest to a "complete" individual. One question for you, how does the greater will fit into Jung concepts? Is it the collective unconscious?

Thinking about it, Miquella and Malenia are each other's shadow 😮 Miquella repressing her rot with his needle which when removed, like Godfrey removes Seroch, lets her bloom to be who she really is. And Malenia the same for Miquella, with her affliction, pushing him to discard the golden order to find a cure when he was a fundamentalist. Order to chaos as chaos to order. Abondance and decay 🤯 Maybe Marika and Malenia where twins in a similar way, life to death as death to life.

The godslayer sword also has resemblance to (me of) a double helix, reminiscent of DNA strands and/or a Caduceus (similarly).

I’m so glad I found this. Top tier discussion with profound implications. Keep up the good work!

8:30 let me preface with the fact that i am in love with this series. I have struggled to find content that actually does a decent job discussing the narrative and it’s intricacies, but this series has restored hope within me. That being said, the family of 3 iconography in Farum Azula depicting a king father, a queen mother, and a child ( to my best understanding) is the birth of Godwyn; The king is Placidusax in his human form; The queen is Marika. My justifications for this are as follows: 1. Godwyn is the eldest if the demigods and was well into his prime (hundreds of years) at the time of his death. 2. The God-prefix predates Godfrey (Hoarah Loux) who adopted the name at the behest of Marika to honor the lineage she started with the only “pure” being. In addition God-Wyn roughly translates to “Joy of the Gods” which would be fitting for the child of the 2 strongest and eldest beings in game. 3. The beastmen did not worship humans. They were short lived during this time period and were likely hunted like livestock since we see hunting dogs. Therefore those statues can only be for divine worship. The only beings we know who were divine at the time are Marika and Placidusax. The baby? Like i said, it can only be Godwyn (Godfrey is part of that revisionist history lol). Time to unpause and continue watching your masterpiece of a video! Again keep up the amazing work!

Masterpiece of an analysis. Truly loved part 1 and 2. You are amazing!

After watching a few of your videos, the game makes sense lol

Frigging "Silent Night, Holy Night" as intro music 😂

fantastic video!!😮

I had to rewatch the LOFF ending just to be sure, but yeah Gloam Eyed Melina’s words are open for interpretation. She is absolutely addressing the Lord of Frenzied Flame but ‘delivering (it) what is (it’s)’, destined death, could mean imbuing the yellow flame with death too, so everything is not just washed away & combined, but destroyed But she could also be saying ‘I will kill you, lord of frenzied flame’ because she is the queen of conquest & death, & if nothing exists anymore, there’s not just no life. There’s also no death. Edit for clarity, TLDR: if you erase all distinction, chaos is no longer the opposite of order. It’s all one great. The gloam eyed queen would not be a chaos queen anymore

Bro literally cracked the whole history a year ago;

Death and the state of the unconscious are two connected concepts, and examining that connection within the context of elden ring is kool. However, i find it a bit presumptuous and confusing when you use the two voncepts interchangeably, for although connected, they are not the same.

The term exercise doesn't come from exorcism, it comes from the latin exercitium, meaning work at something. Exorcism comes from the greek exorkizo, meaning banish an (usually evil) spirit.

My biggest question is how is the QEQ tied at all to Farum Azula if she's the shadow of Marika? Marika is Numen, a race of people that is described as foreign to The Lands Between, while Farum Azula used to be a part of The Lands Between. Meaning Marika, and thus her shadow, the GEQ, couldn't have been part of anything that happened with the dragons and Farum Azula pre-Erdtree. I say this confidently because Numen has ties to the Numenoreans, a race of Men (aka humans) found in JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. They were a race of Men, but they aren't the race of Men of Middle-Earth that we see in the books or movies. Rather, they are a longer lived race that gifted the Men of Middle-Earth more advanced technology that they developed within their home continent of Numenor, separate from Middle-Earth. With how similar the Numen are to the Numenoreans in name and description and how similar The Lands Between is to Middle-Earth in name and location in regards to other continents in the world, I find it hard to believe that the GEQ had anything to do with Placidusax, a native to The Lands Between, if she is indeed the shadow of Marika, a foreigner who wasn't born in The Lands Between.

great video, i only have one thing i disagree, i sont think serosh is meant to be the shadow of godfrey, quite the opposite, it subverts expectations by making the beast the suppressor to godfreys shadow. This is why he took serosh upon his back in the first place to suppress his shadow.

Thanks for All the work you put in those Videos. You are catching up in some really nice details, way to many people seem to miss. I just think you walked into a trap. Myasaki love to take western concepts and authors and proof them wrong. Like He did in bloodborne with Lovecraft. He does the same with Karl Jung. btw shocked that you don't mention, that his few on human psycholigy is deeply flawed and influenced by his own racist fews. He also was a supporter of the NSDAP aka the nazi party in the 30/40's in germany and refused to talk with edjucated people from other countries, when He lifed there. Out of fear, it could influence him, or proof his Theorie wrong. This is where a lot of important elements of elden ring come in. For example how Malenia represents the solution of eastern alchemy (based on taoism), but learned through the lense of a Person, from a western origin, while Miquella is the devine Schild of Western alchemy. (just say unalloyed Gold reference). That's why Malenia needs the 3 blooms and has 5 inner selfs, we can meet. Millicents Story for example is about how sometimes, what we in the west, call ego or inner self, stand in our way. Because she fails to accept the scarlet rot as Part of her. What we help her acchieve by betraying her. There is also a lot of evidence that you need opposites in the lands between. What you pointed out. Like rot and abundance, what would work as Alternative concepts to the more simple life and death, we see under Marikas rule. And we learn that before Marika, there was an age of rot and abundance, as well as most likley several kingdoms and gods at the Same time. (mushroomcrown, scorpion dagger, Uhl tablets and wall carvings) Monotheism just came arround with Marika and she entered the time Line pretty late. Most likley in the last ruling era of the crucible (what she would call age of abundance), since she was most likley an empirian Holding the Rune of life, so becoming a good of life. But Maria, was probably the first claiming the lone title as the one god of the lands between, while polytheism, was dominant before. This is where the golden order steps in, and the history is ritten by winners. Only leaving behind archological evidence for the opposite. What you proclaim here is the World of Elden Ring through purly western eyes, ignoring most of the history of the lands between. The story Marika tells us. I also highly recommend queelag. She in special explains well why and how Karl Jung is wrong, how Myasaki is mocking Jung, with the Story and mythology of elden ring, and that He had, what is called "confirmation bios". But I think you are still right with so many stuff. For example that Marika reciefed her shadow beast in farum azula, that the greater will is the collective will of intelligent beings (most likley influenced by the currently situation of the World, it's polutics...), Maria and Radagon as devine couple... So, still an amazing job and Video. 😊

Godwyn the Prince of Death should have been the Elden Lord and The Gloam Eyed Queen was an Empyrean next Vessel of the Elden Ring and owner of Destined Death. I believe they were meant to Marry/Wed and usher in the New Age but GEQ killed Godwyn because she does not want to be controlled by the Greater Will. I believe Ranni and Melina were in the Same Body, one Part Moon and one Part Golden Order. And only by slaying her Flesh, both Parts could be Free. Yes The Gloam Eyed Queen is a Entity just like Marika. Being 2 People in 1 Body

Melina is an individual and she is not Marika.

Of course a fromsoft game bringing to life different parts of the brain is not unprecedented. I'm sure there's other instances than Amygdala, but I can't think of any right now! Um...

how do you only have 470 subs

Isnt Maliketh literally Marika's shadow?

Why Christmas song tho

No

It doesn't add up. Why is melena the gloam eyed queen, the motive doesn't match. The ge queen was defeated by maleketh, so if melena is the geq why does she care about the golden order. She doesn't use any black flame incants or even says anything about it. The only "evidence" is that she has a purple eye. If she is the geq then why does she against chaos and true birth. She says that births wouldn't happen, that is erdtree birth. She even implies that she doesn't understand how birth from a mother is possible.