Elden Ring Patch Notes Don't Make Much Sense To Us 

Hello. Have you tried turning it off and on again.

It's part of the lore, wait for Vaati's video

Bad fps is the way to increase the difficulty. It is a true soulslike feature.

Bandai is steering scarily close to becoming online "tech support" & telling us to "Pour milk on your PC to fix it" 🥛 😬

Ultrawide is particularly maddening because the ER engine has NATIVE support of UW. I've had that game randomly display correctly in proper UW upon booting up the game for a few precious seconds before the black bars came back. It's clear someone at FromSoft put effort into making UW look good, and then someone else decided to block it. I can understand why they want to keep cutscenes in 16/9 to maintain consistent framing, and even the menus like they did in AC6. But why oh why are they so insistent on preventing UW during normal gameplay? It would work just fine and look great if they just let me turn it on!

make sure your controller is fully charged to increase frame rate.

Based on what I've read about how senior employees in Japanese companies are always right just because they're older and have more time at a company, I like to believe there is a senior developer at From that insists the game is performing exactly as intended and refuses to see it any other way. Or maybe they're just in a Bethesda situation where their technical debt is so huge that it takes an act of god to improve anything.

I think they where trying to specify the "clean system software cache" that is under the Rebuild Database option. Not sure how effective that actually is but I kept having loading issues with Hellivers and I tried that. Didn't have any issues since.

They still haven't fixed a simple bug from release, anti-aliasing option resets each time you boot the game. Shameful behaviour.

Inappropriate activity detected

There is something weird going on with Elden Rings game files on steam in recent patches. I got soft locked out of playing online, I got a weird in-game notice saying I was being booted for suspicious activity. I am running fully vanilla ER, no mods at all the I got a soft ban for suspected cheating. The only way I was able to reverse the soft ban and get back to online co-op was verifying the game file integrity in steam. Apparently, this happened to a lot of people on PC.

Elden Ring's performance problems might be fixed by turning your console off, turning it on again and playing a game that actually has good performance.

"PC LOAD LETTER"? WTF does that even mean??!!

7:30 - I remember this feeling when the family PC switched from a CRT to an LCD monitor as a kid :(

As much as I adore From Software's games, they are completely clueless when it comes to optimisation.

Yall joke but Razer mice with 8k polling can do crazy things to games that don’t support it. In some games it becomes a literal slide show until the polling rate is lowered to below 2k.

I've run into many issues with multiple PS5 games that rebuilding the database somehow fixes most of those issues. Fallout 4 is known to have issues with mod installations if you don't rebuild and clear the database cache. I've noticed that some games refused to install an update until I ran the rebuild database. Maybe the issue for Elden Ring might be related to how the updates are deployed through PS5 and conflicts created by the cached database?

Elden ring actually has a very odd issue with wireless usb devices that cause stuttering. I was incredible surprised when i could reproduce it because i have never seen it before. So wierd.

The mouse application part might be kind of true, I use a Wireless mouse that turns off after some inactivity time and it just tanks performance for a few seconds but gets back to normal.

Someday I'm gonna figure out how to beat the camera boss...🤔

Yeah, beat Armored Cored VI on PC and didn't have any issues outside a single cash at launch when I turned on RTX and entered the hanger mode. It's a surprisingly good port, especially in 2024.

Was getting locked 60 at 4k ultra raytracing on my 4080 super. Now it dips into the 40’s after the update. It’s actually ridiculous

The thing is Miyazaki has been loyal to their old staff members who are absolutely talented when creating videogames however they have not adapted to current day technologies nor hardware improvements and also they still use the same engine since Demon Souls days (2009) which is why so many issues and bugs from Elden Ring can be recreated on Dark Souls 1. Hopefully next games get the development assistant like Bluepoint how they perfectly managed the demon souls remake and runs flawlessly on the PS5

I’ve had stuttering in some games prior to rebuilding database… FFVII remake and rebirth both required me to rebuild database to fix stuttering that was apparent in cutscenes. Afterwards silky smooth and only had to do it once.

The game runs like shit on everyone's systems, but no, mouse software is the issue.

Rebuild the database will clear the cache completely, that’s why.

There are a few points in the stack where a dB issue or file issue can cause increased latency. If you attempt to read a file and it fails it may try and recover silently with end user experience just being a delay if successful. Anyone who has monitored storage systems will tell you this. It's not uncommon and am pretty sure you can log this on windows. Not that I don't think it's a run around but I can see how they could reproduce an issue and root cause to that.

It's simple, Japanese developers, especially senior developers from older generations, are stubborn and too prideful to admit the game has some type of performance and visual issues. That's why so many Japanese games are stuck in the past and have performance issues. Western devs are definitely much better at recognizing problems and optimizing accordingly. But Korean devs are different than Japanese devs, they actually fix things fairly quickly. It's a cultural difference.

As someone who plays on Steam and had to be at work all day today, I was very confused seeing this video title on my feed while steam was showing no new updates for today

I can hold a solid 60 in the dlc until particle effects or weather effects take up a decent amount of the screen. Problem is GPU usage doesn't increase and try to compensate by computing its stays the same. Lots of bad optimizations and the occasional random fps drop when not moving makes me think anti cheat issues effecting the gameplay

The only way this game gets a locked 60fps on console is if you play the ps4 version on ps5, you don't need VRR for it, or wait till the ps5 pro and hope it has a boost mode like ps4 pro

Fromsoftware don't understand their own engine that's the issue,

I started a new playthrough recently on the Series X, and honestly it seems to run worse than I remember. In large open areas there’s so much pop in when it comes to grass textures it ridiculous. It doesn’t ruin the game overall but I just don’t remember that being as big of an issue when I played it closer to launch.

Fromsoft unoptimized trash = good Other unoptimized games = bad

Patch notes: * Put it in rice for a night. It'll fix itself.

The recurring problem is when there is an update the updates do not preserve your settings. Now I make it a habit to check my settings before I click on Resume.

Next From patch notes: "To improve frametime stability it is recommended you get better gpu"

Blow on the disc and everything will just work. Nintendo vibes.

Blow on your disc and wrap on your console in a towel. It worked for me 👍🏻

Performance issues are tied to the game engine when development was started that would require foundational bottom level rewrites, likely would break the whole game. Game development cycles are long these days. Game engines could be five years old for new games.

Ultrawide support? (works with mods, but that triggers the anti-cheat unless you run it in offline mode)

Armored Core 6 has a framerate that is capped at 120, but they kind of messed up the port there too.. Your AC gets more accurate the higher your framerate is in AC6.

I love From Software and their games, but they really need to optimize and code their games better. It's almost like they got stuck in the PS3 era with that.

So it’s official, they dont have a real tech on the team😂

Every thing should be made difficult, included the patch note. So get gud at reading it! 😂

I just want to chime in that in the past, i believe it was dark souls 3, I did experience framedrops caused by the mouse moving while using a gamepad. Most noticeably if I was in the menus. Basically I unplugged the mouse and menus were smooth again. But I havent experienced anything like that in elden ring. A bit strange.

Wouldn’t trying it then showing it doesn’t help be more comprehensive? You guys just had a video with Rich talking about a specific install of games (files) causing performance problems with reviewers and even your own experience where reinstalling a game (files) fixed a performance issue. Both on console albeit Xbox. People will say that “rebuilding the database” on PS5 worked for them whether that being a placebo or not will require evidence from someone with the means to show that. What will that do to credibility if this actually does something?

same on pc with 'verify steam files' and you get errored out and kicked offline.

I did many NG7 runs in base game, and I unninstalled the game after the DCL. One shot fest, play like miyazaki want's (aka use everything at your disposal which means use whats broken or summon), no respect ratio for enemy speed/speed, delayed attacks in a way that doesn't make sense... meaning the same animation for an attack that has a 3 sec delay or half a milli second, which makes the game impossible to be enjoyed with mouse and keyboard, either you are an absolute beast or hope u can trade because the speed of some attacks are the same that it takes for Spacebar to be released to roll. Some bosses almost NEVER rest. I felt relieved after most fights instead of great because I beat them. Plus, a version of a game that requires you to be even more precise than in it's base simply cannot have the badly coded hitboxes most bosses have. It's hard in the wrong way and for the wrong reasons.

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There *was* an issue in Elden Ring where games installed on the Windows store / gamepass / xbox app whatever caused random stutters in the game and controller disconnections. I don't see how these specific recommendations help, but yes, sometimes a completely different app or setting causes issues.

So not to sound stupid but I was running into an issue where during certain boss fights the framerate(on performance mode) literaly tanked. Like 10 fps lol. Doing the rebuild database thing actually fixed it. I think that is what they are talking about. Not the "normal" 45-50fps the game runs at.

Souls games always had shitty performance and that was one of the reasons I was put off by the series. I remember dying so many times in the OG Dark Souls due to the horrendous performance more than I died to the enemies. The game dropped to like 9fps in Blight town on the Xbox 360. It always baffling how most reviews never even mentioned those issues and just praised the games non-stop. Another reason not to trust gaming media.

In PS5 we dont have any vibrations at all! why no one talk about this??

anyone remember the articles that claimed a bad internet connection would cause bad fps?

I don't know if it's just me but post dlc launch when I boot up the game it will run at 9-10 fps for the first fifteen seconds and then jump to 60 per usual. It wasn't that way before.

I was going to make a "Take out the cart and blow on it" joke, but unlike what From is suggesting, that trick actually worked.

Rich making me chuckle in the end, that was great

Elden ring is definitely a much worse game than it should be because of some of the baffling performance problems across all platforms. Apart from that i love the game.

There are still performance issues on PS5 version. If you're using quality mode with rtx lighting it shutter's.

Why can't we turn off the damn compass without disabling the entire HUD!?!?!

I don't like the term "gaslighting" either. Solution: Use "misleading".

0:29 that Sigh 😂😂😂man

The patch made complete sense to me. They nerfed my bottle build into the dirt.

Would be very helpful to link to your elden ring video where the first set of issues was gone over. Likely on other channel?

I’m so happy that I’ve been playing the PS4 Pro on my PS5. Runs so smooth

I won't be buying the DLC until they actually give a shit about the poor quality of their software.

TFW 60 Hz is unbearable for people and all I wanted was to play games at 60 Hz 1080p when I got PS5 and that was too much to ask still in many cases.

Just give the game to Blue Point and they’ll do it right.

I dont know what they did to the game but it’s broken again. I played the dlc 2 times and it was seriously fine. I started a fresh character and the base game is dropping frames in dungeons of all places. Leyndell was unplayable yesterday. I swear the game still isn’t building shaders correctly

I'm playing with raytracing on and, with my slow and careful play style, it really adds to the atmosphere especially in smaller areas and areas with lots of foliage. Totally underrated.

Alex said it best - gaslighting. It’s not hard…lower the graphical quality a bit. As you guys have pointed out numerous times, the PS4 version runs 60fps on PS5.

Keep in mind Elden Ring came out before AC6. You'd hope they'd update Elden Ring with the new DLC to bring in any new features, but it feels likely they stayed on a previous engine build or something for Elden Ring while AC6 got the improvements. Not a good excuse mind you, but I wouldn't necessarily call Elden Ring a regression. And DS2 was made on a completely different engine. Hopefully the next Miyazaki game takes what they added and learned from for AC6 and applies it, but maybe Miyazaki has a thing for fixed frame rates and bad ports.

Yeah I was like WTF was that patch note when I saw that method for my PS5. 😢

I have a 3070 Ti and it runs Elden Ring in 21:9 with much more detail yet far higher FPS than PS5.

Just hire a team to optimize every version of the game, it sold over 30 million copies already FFS Also WHY THERE IS NO OFFICIAL FSR/DLSS SUPPORT YET?!

Wait, is this a new patch, or same one from last week? I’m so confused

Damn 💀0:32

I wonder why Alex has an issue with the term "gaslighting". I mean, it is an actual thing.

This is outright disgusting. ER has suffered from the same issues since release, a good example of this is the AA setting resetting with every session. This has been present since release. These ER fans are so eager to lick miyazakis nectar of his feet, that they're more than willing to wave off any valid criticism of the game by calling it a "skill issue" or "git gud", to the point where I have to point out that I've beaten the game with bow run without much difficulties and that the DLC besides radahn was honestly a walk in the part, even with an under leveled character. And in general, souls games arent really difficult, they're just knowledge checks. They'll say "but gameplay is so good, performance is irrelevant" and to that I say BS. Even if gameplay was actually good, that doesnt invalidate the criticism. Doom Eternal, a far more technical game with godlike gameplay got its performance ruined by denuvo anti tamper, DE is my favorite game, but I didnt ignore what they did just cause the gameplay is good. I rightfully wrote a bad review and called out performance being ass and only removed it after it got fixed. Monster Hunter World on release ran like crap, I love that game, but I didnt wave off the performance issues either. But from software can do no wrong in the eyes of these souls fans. This is why souls games dont support UW, high refresh rate mode and certain QoL settings like FoV. This is why issues never get fixed like asset streaming / traversal stutter or the horrible camera colliding with the world. I like from games, I've played every single one available on PC, but I'm not going to wave off these issues just cause of it, especially since they've shown that they can make a competent release with AC6.

Why would the developer put any real effort in fixing the technical issues when by far most players keep hyping this game as the greatest ever.. Gameplay over graphics (and other technical stuff) goes for this game like no other.. It obviously runs well enough for most people to not really care..

this game is so good, we dont care about the issue

They're notes are translated from Japanese and that usually causes some error in the message.

I turned VSync on for Elden Ring in the Nvidia settings and I haven't had any stuttering since.

Miyazaki was lead in DS1, DS3, and of course Elden Ring and Shadow of the Erdtree. Different people were in charge of DS2 and AC6. Miyazaki is a console dev primarily, that's probably the issue.

They know its BS but they also know they have already made one hell of a profit so they don't care and think they gaslight us

the game is really weird. playing on fullscreen with hdr turned on locks it to 120hz for me on a qhd 240hz oled. i already have dsc turned on and removed the tv resolutions. not that hdr or rt is at all relevant. and the stuttering is annoying as hell

The salary of software engineer is quite low in Japan, so we wont expect much from FS. But after the great success of Elden ring, I hope they can upgrade or replace the current game engine.

Have you tried screaming at your console/PC to git gud at running the game

Maybe they let George RR write the patch notes

The game actully eats my inputs now. I dunno if its just dropped frames at the time I press something but the dlc broke stuff

After trying Dark Souls 3 on PC and finding its optimization abysmal I decided to buy ER on my PS5. Since Sekiro (that one actually runs decently on PC) released I've bought every Souls game on Sony consoles and it's been a smooth experience. Miyazaki RPGs seem better optimized on PlayStation at least on my end.

ds2 pc port is still the best. It can run smoothly even on the worst pc imaginable.

I'm on PS5 and since the first patch of SOtE I've had no issue. Before the patch I had input lag but since was fine. And that's completing the DLC and then the Main game

There were only ever two things that greatly reduced the stutter in Elden Ring on Windows 10 for me, which I verified with CapFrameX: using DXVK Async + vkd3d-proton (offline only and hasn't worked since the ray tracing update), and disabling Core 0 through the Control Panel for my Ryzen 5 2600x (offline only since EAC won't allow it).

Performance mode on PS5 is awful in the open world.

Fromsoft would be a perfect developer if it could just fix its technical issues

Armoured Core 6 doesn't have Elden Ring's performance issues, so it must be an engine issue.

welcome to the future

Waiting for a limited complete ultimate game of the year edition to be released. With all the issues fixed. Just because they know we'll buy it all over again.