[Elder Scrolls 6] - MY biggest CONCERN! 

I mispronounced Morrowind. Please forgive me buddies! 😭

Dont be worried....its never coming out.

One thing I'd love for TES6 is for the world to have a set amount of money, like merchants don't just refill their money every day, but the game AI makes NPCs trade with eachother, that way the value of the stuff you sell will be tied to how much they are needed. It could lead to interesting quests like destroying a bandit camp that has been raiding a town and then decide weather you want to hoard their loot or give it back to the people to make the town better, and if you decide to hoard all the money in the game, NPCs will go crazy trying to get food, like they might sell all the stuff in their house or steal, maybe shops even close down because no one has the money to buy what they sell 👀

Really hope they go back to their roots. Something smallscale but feels big with high density of detail.

That remark about the moon was so asinine. They weren’t bored because they were one misstep away from a horrible death. There was no guarantee they would get off the moon to return to Earth! They had scientific experiments to perform that would validate theories from Newton’s time!

Do the newer generations even care about Elder Scrolls 6 coming out? They kind of waited a little too long.

I think Skyrim map size should actually be a bit larger for the amount of content it has. Now, it's hard to leave the roads and take any kind of shortcut without running into something. It kind of becomes predictable in a weird way.

The biggest Problem with Elder Scrolls 6 Is that it is being made by Bethesda. Strip the IP from that incompetent company and give it to people who know what they are doing like Obsidian Studios.

I can’t wait for the same 5 voice actors; “Playing the game for the next 10 years” yes but they also made comments about “how can we monetize that” which is another huge concern with where there mind is about it

I think the next game can be bigger but it has to be bigger using the same scale as Skyrim. What I mean by that is, use the same 1 to 1 scale you used for Skyrim but give us a little bit more of tamriel. It's almost set in stone that we're getting Hammerfell right. So with that in mind, Hammerfell is a very similar size to Skyrim on the map. So give us a Hammerfell that is about the size of Skyrim (the game) but then also give us a little bit of the area up north, like the Orisinium area and then maybe one of the Summerset Isles. That way we'll have a total map that's like 25% bigger than Skyrim and has multiple biomes. You'll still have some snowy areas with orsinium, various different desert type biomes in hammerfell and maybe some aquatic areas with a small Summerset Isle. Then load up that world with more densely populated POIs compared to Skyrim. Maybe more, larger and more densely populated cities than Skyrim, more caves/dungeons, etc. One thing that Elder Scrolls does right that Starfield didn't is that everyone but Guards and enemies have their own names and schedules. In Starfield, 95% of people are just 'Citizen' or something like that. I get that the world and the cities are more ridiculously populated but that takes some of the experience out for me. I like that in Elder Scrolls you accidentally (or on purpose lol) kill Jim the apple salesman, there's no more Jim the apple salesman in town. His store or stall is now empty. Your actions have huge consequences. You do the same to like 30 'citizens' in a city in Starfield, there's no impact in the long run.

A map the size of skyrim is ideal

A lot of people worry about the size of these things at first, but I think after a bit of practice, training, and learning to relax they end up really enjoying it

The day we get Warcraft 4 and TES 6 is the day we join our ancestors

They definitely need to scale back, always quality over quantity. I want then to focus on a roleplaying experience just as good as Skyrim or maybe even better. The thing I love most about Skyrim is the endless characters I can create, making every play through a little different

Melee combat mechanics should be identical to those in Dark Messiah, a game five years older than tes5. For replayability, getting the gameplay mechanics right is crucial. What I think could further replay even more for tes6- because size isnt that important-is armies and bandit factions coming in over the borders allying themselves with a jarl or other group to instigate civil wars and invading towns. Like the Outposts in FarCry4 but on a vaster scale.

I want to be able to sail a boat to different places

The biggest thing I would do is fire Emil paglio he's a liability with his primary school level writing

I feel like they're using the 'size' of Starfield to kind of justify why a bunch of other design features regressed. But according to them, once they got one proc gen planet down, 1000 didn't matter cause the 'work was done'. So either making that one planet took 8 goddamn years, or they thought those bland planets were content enough. It think it's both. I still think all the cities should have been like 15-20% the size of Skyrim each - add back that sweet, sweet exploration. But even with that, the lore, story, characters are all so weak.

the thing with starfield is that even minecraft had more things to do. and that is game made by what? 5 people? surely with Microsoft money you can just take Minecraft (which is also owned by Microsoft), take all generative stuff, multiply details by 10 and make something truly unique. god dammit even Spore is ahead of it, was it really that hard to make flora and fauna generation? some societal generation maybe, like generative space-raider gangs or whatnot. it's not just a wasted opportinity, it felt like very low effort. maybe people at Bethesda are just burned out, idk...

I just replayed Oblivion and was a little disappointed that exploration isn't being rewarded. I'm not expecting a treasure chest on the top of every mountain, but at least something interesting. Something to look at or interact with.

Morrowind's world is the smallest and feels like its the biggest for me. Same in Oblivion, I was felt lost in Imperial City, it was huge.

Apparently one of the big issues with modern games is the focus of quantity over quality. More map. More playtime. Only at the expense of less substance.

That is a big concern 😢

The size of the game doesn't matter - it's how they use it

I don't think the big problem with starfield is size. Everything but a few cities and stations are procedurally generated.They could literally add hundreds of more planets without adding too much more time if it is generated that way. They just needed to spend time on the actual cities. As some of the only hand crafted environments I expected all their attention to be on that. But even those are extremely underdeveloped. Most named Skyrim towns feel more alive than a starfield city.

Don’t worry, by the time it comes out, the top hardware will be super outdated. We won’t even know what computers would be like by then

Biggest thing for is is that we have to understand that TES VI will never live up to Skyrim. skyrim was lightning in a bottle and TES VI just can never live up to our expectations of it based on Skyrim. How Skyrim is, how it has been, how it was hyped up... we just have to accept that it won't live up to expectations in that way (and possibly in other ways like... _starfield_ ) and that way we can just accept the game as it comes and not try and judge it by Skyrim.

I dont need a giant world. i just want a story with well written characters. Quality over quantity

Me personally, if they can “just take Skyrim”, put it in the new map, new story, same amount of side quests but more diverse, add more features (building your own house should’ve been more customizable and well, an actual option from the start). Then I’ll be extremely thrilled!

My biggest concern is that it won't measure up to current modded Skyrim.

After Starfield, I am so scared. If Bethesda ruins one of my favorite game series of all time…god I don’t want to think about how the Elder Scrolls deserves to be treated a million times better than Starfield and probably won’t be treated that well. I’ve been saying that the Fallout IP needs to be given to Obsidian ever since I replayed New Vegas after first playing Fallout 4. And now…please god let me be wrong.

2 years before Arena, in Ultima 7.. you could watch an NPC go the shelf, make the dough go to the oven, bake the bread, take it out of the oven. in 92! So yes, NPC detail can be had. And how did we get stuck on limited multiple choice options? Remember when you could literally just type anything at someone. I miss that. Its been a VERY long time since they allowed that. (granted they didn't always understand you and you had to say the right things, but I'm sure it'd be better now) Also, it'd be nice if you had a town that fell on hard times so the merchant's store is closed and you find him at the tavern and maybe if you can complete a few quests and get interest back into the town, his shop might open again. ..and then.. (and it is probably too early for this), we have AI.. and that will open up interactions one cannot even imagine. Game still needs to be pretty big. not the 15,000 locations of Daggerfall, but I have read no complaints about the size of any Elder Scrolls game so far. Concentrate on a really great story, well thought out characters, great subplots. More isn't better unless the story actually, for some reason, requires it. and try not to release a buggy mess that takes 2 more years to be playable.

A few years back I visited Monument Valley in southern Utah... incredible experience that I will never forget. However, one night the family decided to dine out at what looked like a pretty nice local restaurant. Great views of the valley and the monuments, but... when we got our food it was near inedible... nor was it inexpensive. Sure, there was plenty of food on our plates, tons of it in fact, but no one wanted to eat it. From what I've read, Starfield is like that restaurant. Lots of expensive food, but no one really wants to eat it. lol

One thing id like to note with skyrim (and personally i love daggerfall but they did the game and random generation as a whole a huge disservice) is that places like winterhold are completely unrealistic and barren, if anything id love for them to have bigger and more interesting cities where things like theives guild quests dont feel like such fetch quest hassles

I hope they don't get obsessed with the size of the playing space. The story, characters, weapons, and spells, YES! The number of acres, NO!

Yeah, Starfield shouldn't have taken 7 years just to be a void of space and relatively empty planets devoid of interest.

Im not too worried about ES6 being oversized. Starfield was huge out of necessity, imo. Space is vast, so an open world space game needs to be huge to match. I agree 100% about the lack of radiant AI in Starfield being a step backwards. It made the cities feel soulless. How they didn't realize that Bethesda's handcrafted world design and procedural generation wouldn't mix is beyond me. lol

3:18 I disagree with you on this. Having tons of NPC will dilute quality and make so that we players get overwhelmed. You can't make a full city with interesting NPCs, and it will be very hard to find the interesting ones or keep track of them. In Skyrim, you could keep up with most of the interesting ones and had no need to talk with 1000 boring ones in between. I think it was close to the optimum number.

I completely agree. Skyrim is big enough. Especially if you include Solstheim. I would rather see a focus on quality interactions with NPCs, companions, and the environment. I loved the Hearthfire additions. Improvements on family life would be amazing! Imagine if your child could be kidnapped by an enemy? Or if children aged? Maybe one kid stays home and goes into blacksmithing using the family forge while the other goes off to Bard college.

I hope that they lean hard into AI-driven NPCs. They actually started to do that in Skyrim and got some fascinating results, but the tech wasn't there yet. I want chatbot-level NPC interactions I want the feeling that when I leave an area things don't stop happening.

After playing heavily modded Skyrim for years, loading up Starfield felt like several steps backwards. My main problem was that I was used to playing with the best of the best modded NPCs in Skyrim like Inigo and Lucien. All of the Constellation companions felt like playing the game with Lydia, but with pretty lame side quests attached to them. ES6 needs to have like 10 "Inigo quality" NPCs scattered about the world. Starfields cookie cutter locations were also annoying... Every abandoned research laboratory is IDENTICAL to every other one, even down to placement of clutter items like coffee cups. At least while Skyrims Dwemer cities or drauger filled ruins were all using the same assets, the maps at least were all different. I will give a point to Starfield for using unimportant NPCs to make the cities feel alive and filled with people. It always felt like Whiterun had maybe 15 people and 2 cows living in it, which felt silly if you thought about it. 🤔

Elder Scrolls is their baby. I'm not really too concerned. I'm sure it'll be great in its own way. I'm super excited to see what happens with the civil war.

You’d think it would be interesting to see a procedurally generated elder scrolls game like daggerfall with modern technology but looking at starfield it’s concerning

What if starfield was more of a warm up exercise for elder scrolls 6 where they could work on things they planned to use as a foundation for tes6 and actually put out another game in the meantime using what was learned? Surely they cant be foolish as people think...

Totally agree and if there are deliberate blank spots in the game, you know the anticipation for DLCs will be huge. Each time a major DLC comes down, the game goes on for another 3 years or so.

The writing is my biggest concern.

If i open the unity game engine and make a giant white plane that stretches 20,000 miles in all directions with nothing in it, i cant claim i made one of the biggest handmade videogame worlds ever. If starfield is full of giant open field with nothing in it, then those regions arent a videogame. In skyrim, you can close your eyes and put your finger on a rabdom spot on the map, and if you were to go there, there will be something of interest nearby. It hit the perfect ratio of size and content. I dont want to play "run through vast empty plane of nothing" simulator

You cannot compare Starfield and Skyrim. They are completely different games. TES6 will take the upgrades in Starfield and keep the good shit from Skyrim

Totally agree. Starfield have a lot of features. But each one of them was cheap copy of features from Bethesda's previous games or other popular projects. It seems they tried to run in different directions at the same time, and as a result we've got that insta-classic. Quality over quantity, Todd, I am begging you.

i think that they should remove the essential tag from npcs and removing emil from the writers.

certainly there has to be some middle ground between game size and content density. or something.

The bigger the better, I want something I can play for many years

They will learn nothing. TES 6 will be the entire continent of Tamriel and have a maximum of 10 dungeons to explore, will have a loading screen to cross each bridge, every character will be voiced by one of just three voice actors, all quests will be fetch quests generated on the spot by AI and each stage will take you to opposite ends of the map, and all the in-game merchants will just open browser portals to their paid mods storefront.

Doesnt need to be bigger, just needs depth of writing and quests

The thing that annoyes me about Bethesda is that there are soooo many good ideas they can implement in their game and the resources are available for them but they just don't implement these ideas at the end

honestly bethesda’s last 3 games (fo4, 76, sf) range from mechanically sound but narratively moronic (fo4) to fundamentally broken at the core (76, sf). bethesda is a washed up studio from a bygone era.

My concerns are simply how bad the narrative writing the game is going to be. Obviously, the ES games have never had super in depth and detailed lore or anything, but the Starfield and the latest Fallout games are a complete bore.

Slyrim truly did have a perfect size. Oblivion was just a little too big. Honestly a game the size of Oblivion and the detail/content of Skyrim would be realistic and amazing

We should have a game that increases all details in proportion to the increase in computer processing power over the same period. In today's world, it can also incorporate greater levels of efficiency with the size and detail. So we need Skyrim at Oblivion size. That game will keep us occupied for the next 5 decades with mods.

I want a game bigger than skyrim. 2-4 times bigger. But i want all of it to be rich and full. This game has to have been in the works for a long ass time. I would feel like all these years of waiting would not be worth it to have a game that wasnt larger in size than skyrim with more missions and side missions and more advanced ai in the NPC’s. Hell I think even a co op option would be sweet.

If you want bigger and more vibrant towns, you have to make the world bigger. Skyrim did a good job disguising it’s size by breaking up the horizon with frequent mountains, but once you play long enough, you see through it.

3:37 God I WISH. I mean, we are probably in Hammerfell and that region is currently fighting against the Aldmeri Dominion. So I do expect big battles there, as well as some sort of management. Bannerlord size even. But it is Bethesda who we are talking. They use an "upgraded" version of their older engine and they'll carry the same bugs as in other games. I'm honestly not hyped. Hopefully, we'll see Kematu again and find out wether him or Saadia was telling the truth. I bet on Kematu.

After seeing the shitshow starfield lost complete hope in Bethesda. You have to remember that Bethesda was technically going downhill after Morrowind they lost all their good writers and programmers. Then on top of this they cling to a very outdated game engine called The Creation engine the core coding is run from gamebyro which was cool back in 1997-2000. One of the biggest problems mod authors face and one reason why starfield was abandoned is there's no amount of scripting or mods to fix game engine limitations. But if you're looking for a Elder Scrolls fix there's a game called wayward realms the developers made Daggerfall and Morrowind they will make an RPG that Bethesda no longer can make.

My biggest concern is Bethesda is making the game. They've tanked in quality and show no signs of recovery.

I'm a Brazilian guy who loves the TES franchise and I loved your analysis ... Congrats on the content! I think there's this tendency to improve the quality against quantity ... But only god knows what is passing through their minds now ... I hope you're right. But I disagree on one point: I do believe that those kinds of games need to have empty places, with nothing to interact with (or just a little). This also gives the reality impression, as the real world has those types of places. I find the anguish and the anxiousness of "empty" and "nothing" very sensitive in the games because it builds more meaning to the places that actually have something ... it's a contrast effect. The "something" seems more meaningful when the "nothing" is around, somewhere. The dynamics of the liminal and empty spaces are very important, and I do think that our generation is forgetting that getting bored is a meaningful experience in a game ... and it is kind of healthy to get bored, otherwise, you'd turn into a junkhead in the game and spent all your hours and serotonin/dopamine inputs in your brain. Continue to do this great work! See you next time

As far as Bethesda goes; I went from low expectations to zero expectations. I have ANYTHING better to do with my time and money.

I generally agree that if you *have* to choose one, quality should be prioritized over quantity - as with most things in life and business. I would argue, however, that you do not have to choose, at least not in reference to previous TES titles. You can have both an increase in size and complexity/quality from Skyrim with current generation hardware - even 2015 generation hardware - and a company Bethesda Game Studios’ size. The model they should be looking to emulate is scale of the Witcher 3 but with the dispersed regions consolidated into a single map. If Novigrad was possible for CDPR a decade ago then an equivalently large and vibrant capital city of wherever province of Tamriel TES VI will be located in should be easily possible, with other cities somewhere between that size and Oxenfurt and towns/villages the size of the “cities” in Skyrim. In my opinion, one reason Skyrim “got away” with being a smaller map with smaller cities than Oblivion is because Skyrim is more of a backwater province compared to Cyrodil, otherwise a capital city (Solitude) with just *one* main road is so quaint it would border on ridiculous. Additionally, while they have typically included “island” expansions as one of their DLC since Morrowind, another way to make TES VI bigger without sacrificing quality would be to focus on new regions - even entire provinces - utilizing the same engine etc for all/most of their DLC, somewhat like ESO has been doing except in this case it would be real Elder Scrolls rather than an MMO mock-up of it. For example, if Hammerfell is the province for the new title, then perhaps the first DLC could be adding the Reach with a “return to Skyrim” theme, the second a couple years later would be all of High Rock, and so on. That’s also how they could *really* get the longevity they want out of one engine/base game - as opposed to Starfield’s mostly pointless new game +. Frankly if they had managed to add a province or maybe two ti Skyrim since 2011 I don’t think they would get nearly the same kind of backlash they do now for the constant re-re-re-re-releases of it.

Morrowind is small, but more packed than Skyrim with all unique NPCs, hidden items and pieces of lore everywhere, and things to do around every corner .. A more modern (but a bit different) example of a game that is kinda small but loaded with stuff is Elden ring... There is not an inch of that games map I wasn't drawn to explore and find the mystery of. Even RDR2 with a huge map was able to give that same want for exploration that Bethesda games have forgotten. Having a world that revolves around you rather than a world you exist in is one example of what's wrong with Bethesda games... Another I think is the resource system... Why would I want to clear a dungeon if all I will get is randomly generated crafting items I probably will never use or need? Or try to defeat a boss only for the legendary weapon I Get is like a randomly generated Pipe Pistol with a legendary effect...

I feel like starfield was a tech demo to show off how big they could make a map, if the rumors of TES6 going to high rock/hammerfell have any merit there's a chance we're just going to get a prettier Daggerfall. Whatever happens I do hope the NPCs have the same life as Skyrim did

I generally like the approach with Skyrim where the base game was compelling on its own but they added more features and expansions with the DLCs. Even some of the mods are huge additions. Perhaps they could take a similar approach with Elder Scrolls 6 - start with a great core game then add too it with more lands/areas/quests when those are released - like a nice big update every year or so - to keep the game fresh.

Apparently there's going to be a new Elder Scrolls game involving time travel released in 2023 🤩

bothesda has has techcally 2011 onwards to make elder scolls 6. skyrim took 6 years to make since oblivion came out 2006. they had over double the time and 80x times the funding. if they mess this up, its on them. there no excuse.

Honestly the smaller ES6 is the better. I don’t want an empty world like Starfield.

I only disagree on one thing. They could put in the effort and make both pieces of land rich and full of interesting stuff.

Respectfully, hard disagree. Instead of trying to hand craft everything, ES6 should absolutely iterate on what they did with Starfield, making something akin to Daggerfall, but with modern design elements making it feel like a living and breathing world. To be frank, they're not as good at characterization as they are at immersing the player in a "lived in" feeling world. There's a reason that the Daggerfall community is still going strong, second only to the Skyrim community. Every Elder Scrolls game after Daggerfall "feels" small, like little toy boxes. Hills dressed up like mountains. Tales of epic adventures with days of travel that takes the character literally 45 seconds. The "biggest graveyard in Skyrim" has less than a dozen graves. It's hard to take anything seriously in the game when the "game" elements are so in your face all the time. All that said, you don't need to literally create an entire continent in order for a game to "feel" big. Fallout 1 "feels" massive because of the overworld travel system. Pathfinder: Kingmaker and its sequel "feel" like full kingdoms since it takes your characters huge chunks of time to get around the map and you have to prep and budget your time appropriately. It helps that, just like in Daggerfall, both of those games "care" about the time you spend, with events coming to their natural conclusion if the player just runs off to do other things. IMO, there should be a good mix of both. Hand craft the main quest. Hand craft the guilds. And if you don't want to procedurally generate entire continents, make a fast travel system that isn't free, takes in game time, shifts the seasons, and procedurally generates chunks of terrain for the player to spawn into when they encounter things along their plotted routes. If any IP deserves the "simulated world" treatment, it's The Elder Scrolls. Daggerfall was ahead of its time. It's a damn shame that there are zero modern games on the market that even come close to attempting that scope.

I'll be happy if the game is 2x the size of Skyrim, they can do it if Skyrim came out on PS3.

I would prefer the company go bankrupt than for them to make Elder Scrolls 6. They'll ruin it.

When the astronauts, went to the moon, they went with a job to do, specific goals, and a limited supply of oxygen. It was a unique achievement on a scale beyond anything possible in a game. If you screw up in a game, you reload. Screw up on the moon, and you die.

I always wonder why, after Morrowind, did Bethesda feel the need to render entire countries for a game world? The scale is never going to match and you miss out on being able to flesh out mere regions. Just look at how Skyrim is as a country…..it’s tiny and yet nobody lives anywhere but the cities. Villages are all of 3 homes and maybe a mill or mine. Cities are smaller than oblivion cities. It’s crazy how the scale can’t even bother with the illusion of scale. Even Oblivion tried harder

Diversity killed the talent pool

I have a similar concern but more in terms of lore. When Skyrim was made enormous cities were turned into barely villages or wiped off the map completely. So of course I want the games to have bigger maps but its very important for those maps to cover a smaller overall area. Ex: In Skyrim instead of all of Skyrim, doing just Falkreath and Whiterun but on a bigger map than Skyrim had.

Another strong case of “ I’m more qualified cuz I care and understand” let’s gooooo!

AND DONT CHANGE THE MENUS!!!! The menus in skyrim are perfect. I want the same in ES6

The Elder Scrolls 6 will be like ESO. ESO has unique content featuring most of Tamriel and has an area 10 times the size of Skyrim. Tod Howards issue with Starfield was that he wanted to provide enough content to last you 10 years until the next game came out and so he had too much autogenerated content. What I would prefer is for Elder Scrolls 6 to be initially four times the size of Skyrim and then for a far harbour sized DLC to be added every year until the next game comes out.

50% it's gonna be big empty shit like starfield, without anything interesting to do. 50% it's gonna be Skyrim 2 with 5 houses = a city.

I totally agree and would add they should think about the lessons of BG3 and not be afraid to shut content of based on your decisions. Yes it means that people can't see and do everything in one play through. But that would make it more repayable. People will want to do multiple play throughs if they make the world consequential.

I think it will be bigger than Skyrim. I think it will have endless DLCs like ESO. But, I think Every NPC will have something unique. They will all have some kind of involvement with quests, or some unique dialogue specific to the character. Itll be good, really good, but will have one major shortcoming that people notice right away. Later fixed by patches and stuff, but the reputation will have taken over by then like 76

Its not the size that counts. Its how many times you can rerelease it.

I really don't understand why Bethesda doesn't invest in a new Engine.

I don’t think you have to make the map small, but you need to have a ton of content in places. But I think some procedurally generated areas without a lot of stuff to separate areas can give a better sense of immersion when traveling. Not talking about lots of empty land all over, but a handful of spots like that, with some hidden camps and mines ect

Quick answer: CHANGE THE ENGINE ! it's outdated as hell, they have used it since Oblivion Yes it allows a ridiculously high amount of props to be present on the map with little to no loss in performance which is obviously valuable in an RPG because it makes the world really interactive Yes it "just works" But that engine is full of bugs and seriously, I don't want to play the same game anymore since 2006 unreal is not perfect, but it's really good at doing almost anything, or simply making a new engine, a papyrus 2.0 for example, which will have the same purpose but adapted to newer machines, our nowadays computer have way enough resources to have a huge AND interactive map, if it was possible in 1996, it will only be better now. please Bethesda, change the engine

FYI - This guy has no actual information about ES6. He's just ranting about Starfield.

Thanks for that commentary, very well thought out. I'm not too concerned about ES6, because I think Starfield to be something of an outlier. The scale of space is insane, so it was always going to be different from Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Have faith (unlike an Imperial).

Why are people still dumb enough to hope any game Bethesda develops has a chance of being good. It is time to leave the cult.

They should just use the Skyrim formula! basically make another Skyrim but improve on it! Make it more alive and lived in, same size map but just slightly bigger more points of interest!

I think I’d rather play Skyblivion when it’s released at this point.

I just want bethesda to fix the solthiem quests they erased on Nintendo port with the anniversary update…

Disagree 100% The worst thing about Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim is the ridiculous small size of those games, with the biggest cities having like 50 NPCs. And caves of trolls 100 meters from the city walls It breaks immersion.

I'd like to think that todd has been prepping for the next game of the series for quite some time now. I just don't see how he wouldn't have allocated ANY of his or the story writers time to developing at least a framework of the map and storyline. I think Bethesda's recent titles should teach them a lesson on what to do and what not to do with the ES6, so hopefully they nail it.

Everybody's laughing until TES6 comes to be 2 Terabytes