What To Expect From The Elder Scrolls 6 - Luke Reacts 

Maybe ES6 was just the 16x the detail we had along the way

0:48 yeah Todd, i hate to be the barer of bad news, but the video games such as thief and splinter cell accomplished this nearly 2 decades ago, this isn't new technology lol, why does everything bethesda do remain so held back in time? what next Todd, are we going to boast about the cassette tape technology soon? lol.

@loadedsports836 I just exploded yoohoo milk all over my phone 😂😂😂

The mods we downloaded along the way 😂

Stfu with this 2020 a*s comment

It's ironic that you have graphics up there. The obsession with graphical fidelity is what is causing games to be poorly designed, imo. They're hyperfocused on realistic graphics but the game is boring.

I don't think that it's " obsessive" to expect at least a decent level of graphical Fidelity that is not just embarrassing in the modern day. Luke was right, Bethesda truly is a Lolcow

@manassrivastava9816 the main reason they strive for graphics is for marketing. Npcs see pretty graphics and buy it. They dont care about us who would criticize them and hold them to higher standards.

​@panzer00 you either have good graphics or a stylised art style Bethesda has neither.

@@panzer00 It'll still suck even if they stick with 2001 graphics.​

elder scrolls 6 is secretly starfield 2

The Fall-field Red-scrolls 76.

@@JamescMichel starfield was the most played single player game of 2023 across all platforms and the only single player game on the list... Spiderman 2 didn't crack the top 50... turns out all you crying sony fangirls had no effect whatsoever

​@@tacituskillgore7437Rent free

My guy… I am poking fun. Starfield is like an underbaked lava cake: Still good but not what I was expecting and needed more time in the oven. I played hundreds of hours in Starfield (the ship building is the best part and wish it was more meaningful) but I still wished it was that awesome lava cake that was advertised.

Me too man. I’m 40 😂😂

Scrolling these feeds until I'm an Elder. They should just call it "Elder Scrolls Forever".

@@BigG2G Gamer gramps

Putting the elder in Elder Scrolls.

​@@prestonyannotti7661😅😢😮😅😮😅😮😮😮

Boom 💥 you’re spot on bro. Cyberpunk, BG3, and Witcher 3 are the pinnacle of rpgs in my opinion. And is what Bethesda should be striving for. They don’t innovate, they repurpose. I still don’t think they’ve ever told an actually great main story in any of their games. Nor do I think their combat is great either. And the characters are like robots. 🤖 The worlds feel lifeless, like the set of a movie. In regard to Cyberpunk and Witcher, I do think the set protagonist helps a lot with telling a great story. That being said, BG3 let you make who ever. Bethesda needs to innovate, but I just don’t think they will.

I agree with you except I'd personally trade BG3 for New Vegas. While Todd, Emil, and their ilk call shots at Bethesda, they'll never reach such heights

Oof that truth bomb hurt lol

​@@Thorn_416Todd and Emil are like the most toxic power couple imaginable

It sucks because when skyrims dynamic cutscenes play out in real time and actually WORK, it’s some of the most immersive moments in gaming ever. But yeah I doubt they’ll put that effort into the games again.

you are right. he never directed fallout 4, skyrim, fallout 3, oblivion, or Morrowind. just a car salesman. all mid games.

​@@ikninja1hdHalf of those you mentioned are mid so mission failed successfully lmao

Hah, so true

@@King-O-Hell LMAO the brain rot is real

@@ikninja1hd Those games were actually kind of mid. They just didn't have any competition. They seemed better because no one makes competing games in their genres. Think what you want though. I'm not gonna judge your opinions.

The year is 2030 you mean

@MrRenanHappy I can't imagine they will get this out by 2030. Starfield took almost 8 years to finish from the time they started full production. I don't even think ES6 is in full production today. Still pre-production, no? I really hope I am wrong, but I sincerely don't think they can pull it off in the next 2 years.

@@johnicushatch Elder Scrolls 6 has been in full production since Starfield released. It'll be 2028, most likely.

@johnicushatch It left pre-production about eight months ago. Still a while to go, but we are getting there, lol

Literally

Captain of the chess club (⌐■_■)

kinda like stifler

Well tbh I feel like their gonna succeed with Eds 6 but your right they needa up their game

@@user-zh1mn8rn9k I do too I’m not one who thinks ES6 is doomed. But they do need to do better than they did with Starfield hopefully they are listening but who knows

I'd rather have an outdated game with oblivions graphics that is actually interesting than the slop Sony has put out this generation... I don't know how to tell you this but great graphics don't make a good game as Spiderman 2 has shown us

​@@tacituskillgore7437You think we give a fuck about Sony? You are literally spewing the same nonsense all over these comments crying and defending Bethesda and their trash game Starfield as if it was the pinnacle of gaming when it is mid as fuck at best. You just want someone to attack so you label everyone here who doesn't agree with you as a Sony fan, when I bet most people here don't even play on Console 😂 keep crying Bethesda shill

Gonna be starfield all over again smh

@@tacituskillgore7437no one even mentioned Sony lol they living rent free bud?

It’s be a huge fucking let down and we all know it

A ten year wait time for the really good modifications to finally be developed, and lets not forget there will be political drama.

Spot on.

and half the towns replaced by settlement building

​​@@wobba4436The only optimistic thing I have is that they (somehow) take that godawful procedural generation tech from SF and put it towards as an actually populated game world.

@@thegreat7878 press x to doubt

I’m in the exact same boat as you. I’m just hoping ES6 will bring that same sense of awe as Oblivion did all those years ago, but honestly after Starfield I’m not holding my breath.

I feel that, starfield ruined my excitement and it was reallly weird. I’ve loved this series for most of my life and have been excited for the next game for over a decade and now my hype is dead and gone

It's going to be a flop not because it will necessarily be a bad game but because Bethesda has been left in the dust years ago

Bethesda is dead. Y'all should seen after fallout3, fallout4, fallout 76. Oblivion was crap compared to morrowind. When I was a kid, I only remember graphics impressing me. But everything else was a let down. Check out Skywind. It's a fans project to revive Morrowind in better graphics. If it's being done properly, it should beat oblivion.

If they don’t update the combat I’d be dissatisfied. After playing dragons dogma the action in other rpgs just doesn’t compare.

DLCs include the Burgers of hammerfell and the elvish furniture store

Damn, that would be a tragedy

Expect starfield, hope for oblivion

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@@casuallyretarded5161 I expect it to be worse than Starfield.

It depends is es6 is just one province then itll be good. But if its all of tamriel then then itll have the same issues as starfield. A contained smaller province will bring back great exploration.

yeah good luck with that, would be awesome if that happened but you know it's going too.

There are still a lot of Bethesda meat riders so... no, people still gonna preorder this thing

He only made one of the most successful games of all time. So much reason for zero faith.

@@Luv_Sammy -can you win the marathon? -ofc i ran really fast 20 years ago. Your logic. Smh

@@Luv_SammyAnd then later made the most boring game I’ve ever played. What side of him we will get next ?

He needs to retire

​@@Luv_Sammy"Tell me more lies daddy todd~"

Yeah it's a real shame. But nothing will change if we all go out and reward their laziness/incompetence. Funnily enough, skyrim was my "last straw".

Todd loves the idea of picking up everything so I doubt

Yeah kinda sad really the only thing that makes me excited for the Elder Scrolls are the mods like Beyond Skyrim and Skywind/Skyblivion.

​@@fgcgaming2530 mods don't fix these games

I wouldn't worry about loading screens as long as es6 sticks to one region but I get why we assume that's the new norm

@@selfaware7617yeah i agree es6 will be good if it sticks to a singular province not all of tamriel.

Just like Fallout London will be better than anything Bethesda cobbles together for F5

As much as Starfield gets hate, it did some decent things. Like what you listed: companion backstory and quest, climbing ladders because new animation system, grabbing ledges/mantling. Jetpacks. Ship building and ship flying/combat. They're also adding actual drivable land rovers in an upcoming update. This leaves the door open for levitation to return, drivable wagon/boats, mount improvements, other new animations and gameplay interactions. They also added traits and character backgrounds as well as dialogue choices(inclusing background or skill dialogue options). It could go either way to be honest. Most people blindly ignore improvements with Skyrim, Fallout 4(or even F76), or Starfield and pretend things ONLY got worse. I understand criticism, but ignorant blind hate is petty. I rarely see people giving credit where its due, only cherrypicking negative things and saying "game absolutely 0/10 bad". That being said, I also want them to double down on what make their games good while also improving their weaknesses. Seems they pick here or there and ignore other aspects. They need to step it up across the board and make an epic game with lots of content and gameplay variety and options(quests, gear, playstyle builds). ES6 is their next entry in their primary legacy iconic franchise. They excel at Elder Scrolls more than other IPs. Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim were each great and unique to their own strengths. I expect them to do the same for ES6. They know ES6 has high expectations and follows Skyrim, unlike the risky new ip Starfield or experimental F76 multiplayer. We'll see in a few years...

You know what I think? Where all that Skyrim money went? To Zenimax share holders. I think more than others, Zenimax skims as much profit out of Bethesda and then gives them a tooth pick and a used hairdryer to make the next game

I think that is a lot of the problem with Bethesda games, they sacrifice story to ensure that they keep that sandbox 'go anywhere, do anything' feel. You can't have quests with complex moral choice and end results that ripple through the world (or at least you can't without a significant amount of effort, which Luke established they're not willing to do) while maintaining the ability to tackle a quest in any order you want, or to just avoid the main quest line all together and head to the top of that mountain. They just don't mesh. It's the same reason that anytime Bethesda introduces a sense of urgency, such as with finding your son in Fallout 4, it has no impact, because no matter how long I go around collecting every light bulb and wrench in the world and building my settlement bigger, there isn't any negative result, my son won't die or take longer to find. From a story perspective, it makes no sense that a Father or Mother would do anything else but find their son. They either need to make their quests designed around the fact that there will be no real sense of urgency, or build in excuses to have the player go around doing random things, like Morrowind does when Caius Cosades tells you to go out and get some experience under your belt. The main quest builds in a pause so that you have a in world reason why you're going out and doing all kinds of other things. Bethesda needs to remember what kind of game they're trying to make, and design the story around that, not just try and fit the story they like in with the whatever type of game design philosophy they've chosen.

You have both with Morrowind.

@@masster71 there is this game called Elder Scrolls 2 Daggerfall that has introduced a revolutionary system: sometimes picking a faction locks you out of other factions. For example if you start serving a deity you can't serve another deity, effectively being locked out of 14 factions. You can join guilds, but the sandbox nature of the game allows you to only have enough time, so you can't follow al quests equally. Pursuing the Dark Brotherhood can usually result in failing the main questline. However, simple game design from 1996 is understandably outside Bethesda's grasp.

@Lampoluke Yes, but Daggerfall is a very different type of game with one of the largest procedurally generated game worlds ever made, which is just very different from the more recent hand-crafted worlds of the last 3 games. Additionally, while I agree that there should be restrictions to which quest lines can be completed on one play through, I don't think that addresses or is the answer to a weak storyline that isn't designed around the type of game they're making.

Idk if I’d go that far lmao Peter molyneux was the goat of over promising

@@Brian_Sleesman fair...lol

And both made better games than 90% of the industry... I wish Peter was still making games he over promised constantly and still managed to make masterpieces

todd dosent even promise things that crazy, its just that bethesda isnt capable of making even basic features functional

@@tacituskillgore7437 No.

"Morrowind made you appreciate Daggerfall" I dont hear this much, played morrowid but never daggerfall, what good things did they take out?

I’m just getting into Oblivion for the first time and playing on series x and I’m enjoying it a lot. Basically no loading too. I want TES 6 to be a highly updated version of this lol more locations and handcrafted areas than Skyrim and great combat and stories. That’s all I need. A great looking game with great stories and exploration. And little to no loading!

@@driver3899 So Daggerfall is a bit of a different situation because both Arena and Daggerfall are FAR different types of games than Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim are and how TES 6 will be. Both Arena and Daggerfall were largely procedurally generated games with some handcrafted aspects of the world design thrown in(which was kinda nice for allowing for massive game worlds - Daggerfall's game world being the equivalent of the real world size of the UK - but it also made the game break itself in some cases) and this allowed for the team to focus a lot more on interesting game play mechanics. One of the really neat ideas Daggerfall had(which might have been a carryover from Arena) was the ability to give your character various advantages and disadvantages(such as being weak to a certain type of weapon/magic/element/etc. or giving you the ability to heal when crouched/in darkness) which would change how much XP you needed to level up(the more disadvantages you took, the easier it was to level and the more advantages you took, the harder it was). An important thing to remember about old TES games is, like the Baldur's Gate series of games, they were trying to take the tabletop experience and bring it into a video game, so the experience was geared more towards allowing for total player freedom than anything else. Morrowind was Todd Howard's first mainline TES game with the company as a director/project leader and he RADICALLY changed how the series would be designed. TES went from massive worlds that were largely procedurally generated to smaller handcrafted worlds with minimal procedural generation. They completely removed the advantage/disadvantage system, took out skills like climbing(in Daggerfall you could climb up walls and towers and sneak into/out of places via windows if you were a thief character) and speech related skills(there were 9 languages you could learn to pacify various monster/creature races like Centaurs, Daedra, Dragons, etc. so that they wouldn't attack you - and in some cases you could get information from them that would help in questing) and just changed the general methodology of how leveling up in the game worked. From there, with each TES game, they stripped out fun ideas from the last title. Oblivion removed spells like Mark and Recall, as well as Levitate. It also put a cap on how many potions you could drink at a time and dramatically changed how various skills/attributes affected how you engaged with the game world(for example, in Morrowind, if you had a super high acrobatics skill, you could jump insane distances - in Oblivion, it didn't matter if your acrobatics skill was 100 or 1000, you would jump the same amount; no more jumping halfway around the world map for funsies). And we all know about Skyrim taking out the magic crafting system from Oblivion(and classes, for whatever fucking reason). So yeah, I just anticipate TES 6 barely being a RPG and being a glorified action adventure title with the slimmest of RPG elements, much like Starfield was.

@@TheFuriousMulatto Damn that was a good read, you perfectly encapsulated the bethesda situation too. I think you are dead right about TES 6. And even worse it seems like its a strong trend in AAA gaming to take anything good, "streamline" it down until there is nothing interesting about what originally made that kind of game a unique experience and put in the barest amount of effort to get return on investment. Its like they are selling the glossy beautiful exterior of a game but with nothing inside it I like the sound of the advantage/disadvantage system, its like something from a rougelike used to create high replayablity, and thats a good thing Also climbing seems like an amazing thing to have in any of these games, wish it had at least survived until morrowind. Thats probably my favourite bethesda game apart from new vegas but of course but we cant count that one So I never knew about the languages thing in daggerfall, was that regarded as a fun thing? Never knew it had hand crafted elements either, was that a good mix, occasionally coming across hand crafted stuff?

@@driver3899 I think the language skills in Daggerfall are super cool and fun because it allowed you to have more varied interactions with creatures that later games ONLY allowed to be enemies that you had to kill. I like the idea of instead of having to kill a Daedra, being able to have a conversation with them and maybe negotiate with them so you can gain passage into a dungeon or whatever. Like many things that got removed by the Howard-led TES games, it was probably one of those things that didn't have mainstream appeal.

Bro the modders are literally the life support of Bethesda 💀

@@sebastiann.8088cold🤣

@@sebastiann.8088 they absolutely are, Skyrim would have died years ago if it weren't for them. But still, we can't expect minimal effort from Bethesda

I'll just wait what es6 is then mod some of the shit from that into Skyrim

Well you can't rely on Bethesda to do the work can you? Modders are simply more talented and actually care more than Bethesda has ever done in the first place.

Regardless keep expectations low. Thats how youll always be impressed haha

The problem is when it somehow gets even lower than ny already low standards. ​@merksmovies25

Skyrim didn’t need the amount of loading screens that Starfield did

​@@itsmatt517That was also when Bethesda didn't suck ass yet

​@@itsmatt517 And people actually expected loading screens back in those days since it was 2011 not 2024.

shut up, todd howard's burner account. a piece of corn staying where it is for 100 hours of gameplay doesn't make it a great game when there is terrible and extremely outdated overall design

According to the leaks it takes place in Hammerfell and High Rock so I think you may be on to something here

My thoughts exactly. I'm mostly worried about the generation tech that makes Starfield's planets. Seems to me they put too much effort into making it for it to be a one-and-done

In terms of vehicles, they work well overall so not a bad tthing really. Could also bring back underwater exploration, which is sorely lacking in Skyrim. In terms of planets and procedural generation, not really a good assumption. Starfield is a vast space game. Es6 will be a set province or two with it all connected and filled with handcrafted towns, npcs, caves, forts, ruins, cities, regions, etc. It's going to be more contained just like Skyrim or Fallout 4. Also, people can say what they want about f76, but one thing it did well was a large map with various regions and handcrafted locations. ES is different than Starfield or even Fallout. Todd even explained in an interview they look at certain things differently for ES games, which is seen in things like dialogue or leveling system.

It'll be even worse. Bethesda hasn't made a truly good game since Morrowind.

@@BasilAbdef Morrowind was there best game imo.

I’d love it if they made a game like they did in the early 2000s.

In Bethesda's defense here, they have been doing everything in their power to lower everyone's expectations of them for years!

​@@omgbutterbee7978That's a pretty good defense ngl

It easily could. And i mean if they did certain things. Bring back classes, even if they dont hard lock you like before. Have them influence starting early game at least. Carry background and traits from previous games too, Starfield had this, dont see why they wouldn't. Bring back levitation(Starfield has jetpacks already, that lets me be hopeful) and other unique magic. And make magic spells scalable to be viable late game(Skyrim magic fell off late game) Add vertically and water exploration to go with that. Bring back spellmaking, Todd actually spoke about this and wanting to bring it back, but more than just a number slider spreadsheet that both Oblivion and MW were. Improve guild interactions and questlines. Keep racial bonuses but also make them more unique and meaningful, not just early game. Wouldn't be difficult to do most of these. They just have to include them in their overall design vision. Will they, probably not. At least not all of them. But IF they did, easily better than Skyrim when paired with more detailed world, better animations like Starfield had, and possibly more unique world map to explore than Skyrims northern mountains focus. Guess we'll see what they have planned.

Or a randy savage dragon!

@@sebastiann.8088 or that cursed my little pony dragons 🤣

Oh, yeah they aren’t even gonna try dragons again and then they’ll blame it on lore.

The loading screens take like less than 1 second on Starfield. The best they can do is hide the load screens with animations but I rather get art work and tips.

I've been enjoying playing as a Mystic Spearhand.

Well said. They really need to buckle down and take advantage of all the properties and studios they own. Right now they’re sitting there like a spoiled kid blaring all the toys and not letting anyone else play with them. Whereas if they shared their toys with the other kids and they combine their imagination and creativity they could come up with fun interesting stuff. That’s a terrible metaphor but yea you said it well.

That's because, just like they said with that teaser, their current game was Starfield and ES6 would be after that. Now they're working on ES6 and they generally release games about 4 years apart. 2028 is a realistic release expectation. Even if it took an extra year, no big deal, close enough.

I would love if they just made skyrim 2 ngl but in reality what we're gonna get will be just starfield 2

Yes, ai seems like the future of rpg’s. It would make an elder scrolls game last so much longer being able to have infinite conversations with npc’s

Yes I'm having fun with AI in Skyrim right now, but without the VR yet cause haven't finished modding it. It's fun but you really gotta pry the AI to get a conversation out of it. If future games can make the NPC's be more engaging with AI by starting casual conversations or comments it will be worlds of fun.

not really. He seems like an imaginative, assumptive and sensitive person to me but not egotistical.

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Yes, ive messed with skyrims creation kit and really had to figure out how these cells load. It seems like exterior and interior are treated slightly different but are often referenced the same way. I didn't realize this was for the physics (havok i believe). So my question is, is the creation engine, at this point, really only built for this system. Could it be modified to limit the physics and focus on more fluid Change of spaces / enviroments. But if the physics is kept, can it be applied to combat, rather than objects scattered around? The combat has no connectivity or real contact, so could that even be handled by this engine without a complete overhaul or reworking? Im pretty ignorant to all things programming and computer wise lol.

I believe he said they plan on fixing that for ES6

LOL They wouldn't reach RDR2's even 20 years from now when even GTA IV is better than Starfield at many things. Starfield is insanely outdated at this point. It has better gunplay and better graphics than Fallout 3 but otherwise it's still on that level as far as I see it. And Fallout 3 was already far from cutting edge back in 2008 because games like GTA IV, Crysis, Dead Space and COD World at War already existed by then.

​@@Truthforeals😂😂😂😂

Their main stories have pretty much always been largely linear. Their strength was always the world and overall exploration/gameplay.

I think Todd is terrified of adventure

Preach!

you're ancient

Nope. I replayed Oblivion recently and it's a way better game than Skyrim in terms of writing, pacing and in some aspects of world design. It just feels more alive. Morrowind also had an awful lot of kill/fetch quests which don't exist in Oblivion, for the most part. Even a Fighters guild quest to kill some rats (recalling Morrowind) has a twist involving mountain lions and a disgruntled neighbour in Oblivion. I think Skyrim was just fortunate to land as gaming went mainstream and it hit the zeitgeist. It always felt disappointing compared to its predecessor to me. The UI is horrendous.

Absolute delusion...skyrim was played more last weekend than all of those games entire playtime combined... bg3 didn't even beat starfield which was the most played single player game of 2023 across all platforms and the only single player game on the list...elden ring bg3 and Spiderman 2 didn't Crack the top 50

​@@tacituskillgore7437 Why do you compare games that are among the top 5 of their respective years with Starfield, they are on a totally different level

​@@laigstorestarfield was better and beat all of them... starfield was next to fortnite minecraft and cod for hours played where these "top 5" have never been anywhere close... you're right though none of those games were on starfields level

Depends. Elden Ring is practically only praised or known for its boss fights/souls combat. That's pretty much the game. It was severely hyped up by influencers and game media just like Cyberpunk. BG3 has more going for it in the fantasy world aspect but is still largely focused on narrative choices and turn based strategy. In terms of actually a world where you have a sandbox, ES is kinda the GTA of fantasy. A open world with freedom to explore all over with little limitations. You can practically ignore ES main story and still have an entire fantasy world to immerse into. Thats probably what people mean when talking about ultimate fantasy games, meaning sanbox fantasy worlds you can be whoever and do whatever. Idk, games have their unique strengths and weaknesses and people like different focuses on gameplay aspects

You would hope, but what if they release a bombshell of having half of the known world available to explore with additional lands as DLC later on, then it's just a bunch of generic shit and bugs we have to fix for the next 10yrs.

Well prepare for AI-generated content and to be disappointed.

You boys so quick to be disappointed haha I get it! But starfield ain't awful I think it's just boring. But it has some good shit in there.

@@louisbrown3793 I just have to go on what i'm seeing at the moment and that is not Good. I'm totally open to being proven wrong although i don't Think that Will happen. Preferences are different but Starfield is a game i didn't even want to install. Looks like California in Space.

Some truth into that.. many people refuse to believe that though.