Electric Épée For HEMA?

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Talking about an electric signalling device used in Olympic fencing by Favero.
Everything used for the swords shown here was bought from our local Olympic fencing supplier.
If there is anything that you are interested in concerning these devices that the video did not touch, feel free to leave us a comment and we will try to get back to you on that.
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00:00 Intro
00:16 Video
11:58 Freeplay
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8 авг 2024

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@Blutroth Год назад

The historical correct lenght for smallsword blades/foils in middle europe is on average 80cm, so it's not really a mini-foil in that context :D But nice testing, i think smallsword practice could really profit from electrical functionality, people just have to remember, that they theoretical fence to survive a duell while doing it. But i see no reason why the sound signal would be bad overall for hema if you keep your form and everything that you did before before that as well. Also one note about your fencing: the smaller guy has his hand way too much low, this is not good, you hardly get a touch in - i've seen this habit before from sabre fencers. He does it right in the guard, but when it comes to parrying and thrusting he has the hand on hip-height. try to keep the hand as high as your chin and if you have to parry a low blow, use the octave - but do not change the height of your hand.

@die.freifechter Год назад

I can understand why some HEMA people do not like the idea of using electric signalling. There is a reason MOF looks the way it does, but as I said in the video, that is not only down to the electrification of fencing in the end and looking at some tournaments... As always it really depends on how you use it. I personally found it to be quite useful and interesting and also just plain fun.

@mharm734 Год назад

The issue is that the fencing weapons were lightened so you didn't have to fight inertia like with real swords. However, if there was a market for it I'm sure there could be manufacturers that made heavier weapons for HEMA that could be wired up.

@die.freifechter Год назад

Eh, I am not sure that that is a blanket statement to make. The original weapons that modern Olympic fencing swords are based on were all pretty light, especially the thrusting swords. Inertia does not really come to play as much with smallswords or dueling swords, not even with the later very light gymnasium sabres. At least when you compare them to things like the Messer. -Peter

@mharm734 Год назад

@@die.freifechter Initially in sabre they had heavier weapons where you rolled with cuts with the moulinet move instead of fighting inertia rotating to another cut after doing the move. When they lightened the weapons it allowed quick finger tap cuts before the moulinet was able to be done as with a real sabre. In fencing it meant the italian's lock on winning sabre was gone and the Hungarians took over and the modern fencing version of sabre came about. I'm quite certain as a 20 year fencer who also does Hema that this is so, having fencing sabre and also world war 2 sabres in my armory.

@matthewpham9525 Год назад

@@mharm734 Not all systems used moulinets, a bunch of systems using heavy sabers used direct forward cuts or cuts with a simple coupe, Waite and Barbasetti come to mind. Radaelli was using 450g practice sabers in the 1870s, with blades only an ounce or two heavier than modern sport blades. Heavy sabers about the same weight as military weapons were still in use obviously, but it's not quite correct to say that they started heavy and ended light.

@Blutroth Год назад

@@mharm734 Smallsword fencing doesn't use moulinet and the historical weapons are on average 400-500g. For comparison. A sportsfoil is 500g, an sports epee is 700g. Smallsword fencing is not a battlefield martial art, it is used in a duel with etiquette. People prepared for it in salle fencing, this is all very different to sabre fencing, sports fencing or anything. They teached blade contact as default and bladeplay very heavy, putting the technical side of fencing above all (nobody cared too much about athleticism back in the day) because fencing was also seen as art (unlike in todays sport and thats why the sport looks like how he does) Overall it was the perfect mix of art and killing for the duel context, if done right. In the best case it looks like this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZMAgDiEPkD4.html

@bigmoz9900 Год назад

@@Blutroth thats utter nonsense and has nothing to do with why modern fencing is far less blade oriented. Its far simpler than that. Fencing with the feet, using footwork to be your primary weapon, came about because its simply better to use your bodily movement to create time and space for you so you can use the initiative created by that to make sure the situation is in your favour. This is constantly repeated by people who have no idea how much bladework decent modern fencers do. As an epeeist a half hour lesson with my coach includes hundreds of parries, reports, transports and other binds, tens of beats etc. But I don't do them for the sake of them in bouts, I set up situations with my feet, and then back my hand to choose the right action to hit in 1 tempo.