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@whatcar
@whatcar Год назад
What range do you need from your electric car in winter? 🥶👇
@Undisputed_King
@Undisputed_King Год назад
500 miles at 70mph
@piglet5287
@piglet5287 Год назад
200 miles, mainly on motorways
@sargfowler9603
@sargfowler9603 Год назад
Ideally 300 miles so I can get somewhere and back without the hassle of charging. But I guess that's not going to happen any time soon.
@jonburnell532
@jonburnell532 Год назад
I could get away with 100 miles a week in winter. But I have nowhere within a 2 mile radius to charge one.
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager Год назад
'Range' isn't really that important - most people don't drive that far every day. What you need on a long run is fast charging so they don't take forever to charge back up. Make the vehicles super efficient and that is possible and the battery can be usefully smaller and lighter too.
@trevorheley1045
@trevorheley1045 Год назад
Should have included the Kia Niro EV. My experience is that it is very efficient even in the winter
@unclemiketheinformant6554
@unclemiketheinformant6554 Год назад
I'm still waiting for a cold weather test. 47 degrees F is hardly winter temperatures....
@matsprey
@matsprey Год назад
The question is why no Kia? I have a Kia Soul Ev. Official range of 280 miles. I easily get 200 miles in below 0 degrees temperatures and averaging 3.7 miles/kWh overall. Pretty good for a boxy shape and air conditioning set to 22 degrees C!
@alexandergoldman
@alexandergoldman Год назад
Agree, Kia has been doing an amazing job. I think they're some of the most styling vehicles on the road now..
@ZandaKristy
@ZandaKristy Год назад
The absence of cheaper cars like the LEAF and Zoe from this test, (that can be bought for nearly half the price of the Model Y) is a shame. Including the Corsa/208 would have been useful too. £35k+ for a car is not an option for many people.
@rashman35
@rashman35 Год назад
Apart from the fact they had a mini which starts at 29K, the MG is 32.5K and the Ora 32K which are all a similar size/price range as both the Zoe and the Leaf. I'd say they had a reasonable spectrum of sizes and costs of cars present
@aidanapword
@aidanapword Год назад
MG4 is not 35k+
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic Год назад
@@rashman35 again those prices are too high. Are we really saying that if you can’t afford 30k then you get nothing, walk?
@peterjones6640
@peterjones6640 Год назад
My Zoe which is really just driven around town and occasionally dual carriageway gets around 150 miles in winter ( according to the car instrumentation) and around 200 miles in the summer. Although I have never run it down to zero it does seem to be somewhat pessimistic on range during a journey so probably do a little bit more ( say 160 winter and 210 summer)
@jonathantaylor1998
@jonathantaylor1998 Год назад
Whilst they happened to use the MG4 Trophy model, the same battery is also used in the £28k SE Long Range version which, since it has slightly better aerodynamics by not having the rear spoilers, actually could've given a better final range. When a 1.0i petrol, manual gearbox, base-level Ford Focus / Vauxhall Astra cost £25k-ish, the MG4 starts to look pretty impressively priced
@Uwe-vl5he
@Uwe-vl5he Год назад
please check again your values for test miles/kWh of the Renault Megane 18in. They seem to be wrong according to your test range and battery size.
@Smiler7
@Smiler7 Год назад
The Kona EV & the Kia e-niro should have been here. Range topping cars!
@Luredreier
@Luredreier Год назад
6:02 That makes sense with your driving pattern. Smaller Wheels is probably better for stop and start traffic while bigger ones is better for high speed driving...
@jamesguy7396
@jamesguy7396 Год назад
I think you should have included mention of heat pumps in this test. Heat pumps improve efficiency when cabin heating is on so it would have been good to know which cars have one. Otherwise, an excellent comparison. As an aside, I have an MG4 Standard Range with an LFP battery and my actual predicted range in these temperatures is at least 180-190 miles with a 50kWhr battery, temperature set to 19C.
@justinsheldon5015
@justinsheldon5015 Год назад
2 months of Born V3 77kw driving which has just , as a whole, winter cold driving and my long term is 3.6 miles per kw. That's in comfort mode , with heater on although I have avoided electric seats and steering wheel as the seats stay quite toasty , quite quickly. But includes more than not pre- heating to defrost and also 'giggle miles' showing friends how nippy it is. I am sure I will get close to 4miles per kw when it warms up. First EV and other than the infotainment is great.
@JonathanMorris777
@JonathanMorris777 Год назад
Great video and I hope more people begin to look at miles per kWh as a measure, more so than just the number of miles. If you need a huge battery to get those extra miles, you're paying more than someone with a smaller battery and needing to charge more frequently. Plus if you're charging at home with an off-peak rate of just 4 or 5 hours per night, a smaller battery in a more efficient car is better than a huge battery you can't fully charge in one or two nights. There's still a lot of education to be done with EVs to the wider public, especially with so much disinformation from people funded by the oil industry lobbyists.
@Vxvx22
@Vxvx22 Год назад
These tests are absolutely amazing. We need more like 15 to 20 EV for each test, given how many EV are there nowadays
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf Год назад
Great to see this test, my kia E Niro 4+ can easily do over 210 miles at worst case, boot fully loaded, 3 adults and left standing for 2 weeks. Journies were completed with temps around 2 to 3c. Still had range left when arrived home and turtle mode had just appeared another 15 miles range. Obviously used heating as it was cold. In summer, 270 miles is possible and I have done this a couple of times!
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager Год назад
It would be interesting to see the cost (at the domestic 'capped' rate of 34p/kWh?) of running each of the cars too - the difference between the most efficient Mini and Model Y and the Jaguar is close to DOUBLE the cost per mile! 😯 I would love to see a standard Model 3 on that test - I think it should have been in the mid 4's mi/kWh and gone further (and the original, 6 year old design, Ioniq 28 would have been the way most efficient EV.)
@rasherbasher8203
@rasherbasher8203 Год назад
Been freezing today. Heating full blast. I've been ragging the s### out of my v6. Driven like I stole the f##$$'x.. still managed over 300 miles... 😂😂😂
@andrewlarner6190
@andrewlarner6190 Год назад
Really interesting article. My Q4 has dropped performance in the winter but the nothing that causes a problem. The lack of battery preconditioning and the impact on the charging curve is much more important. Be good to see a winter charging challenge.
@ricco123tube
@ricco123tube Год назад
Which ones have heat pumps?
@TheWinstn60
@TheWinstn60 Год назад
Anything over 3.5 miles / kWh is optimum adding a bigger battery to compensate for poor efficiency is never going to work well as that adds weight which lowers efficiency and costs more time and money to charge up. The Mini is very impressive in that regard.
@joeynessily
@joeynessily Год назад
Where are Kia/Hyundai? I have a Niro EV.. it gets about 3.6 miles per kWh in similar winter conditions.. got that driving on a mixed motorway 90 mile trip yesterday.
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Год назад
Genesis GV6 is a nicer Hyundai
@joeynessily
@joeynessily Год назад
@@Ben.Royals same corporation.. but the Hyundai and Kias have the models with the highest range for the price. They have been the best value ranged vehicles on the market for a number of years. The Soul EV, Niro, Kona.. all 60+ KWh and top efficiency. The Niro was 3rd best selling EV in the UK for 2022 after Tesla. It’s odd it’s not included in this test.
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh Год назад
What Car chose the cars to fit the results.
@Mrted20886
@Mrted20886 Год назад
How great will these cars be with age and mileage regarding battery efficiency and future cost of replacement batteries?.
@jan2000nl
@jan2000nl 10 месяцев назад
Tesla; best BMS, best battery tech, best motor tech. Stats today’s show it has best battery endurance vs miles used.
@veryannoyingname
@veryannoyingname Год назад
What wasn't mentioned in this review is that Tesla automatically preconditions the battery in cold conditions when plugged in. Were the other cars having that setting for preconditioning on for optimal battery conditions before setting off on the trial. Unfair to compare without mentioning this setting of used in all the cars
@ProJC
@ProJC 9 месяцев назад
Yes and no. The Tesla will condition the battery for optimal charging performance at the chargers rated output. But not for optimal driving performance. You have to go through the app to precondition the car.
@Brotherbear75
@Brotherbear75 Год назад
Metric conversions 😢
@willielarsson9651
@willielarsson9651 Год назад
My bmw ix3 was at 46% charge today, which equated to 86 miles range.. the manufacturers claims of 280 miles is sheer folly
@brummiesalteno-81
@brummiesalteno-81 Год назад
The MG4 seems like a cracking car for the price. Close to the i-pace on range and a 1/3 of the price. Looks quite good too. Will be keeping an eye out for this on the second hand market in a couple of year's time.
@hankmoody7521
@hankmoody7521 Год назад
I like your approach to detail, but one additional step would be to messure recharged kWh after testing since the WLTP rating is including charging losses and "official" and usable battery sizes might differ. Nevertheless Tesla is certainly one step ahead when it comes to heat management (octovalve) and is quite aggresivly using excess heat from all components incl motors and the battery pack. VW recently announced inhouse developement of thermo components. BMW and Mercedes will also catch up with their MMA and Neue Klasse over the next years, so we probably see 20%-30%+ more range over the next years in winter tests.
@fatphoca5009
@fatphoca5009 Год назад
The car first in the convoy will not benefit from the lower drag resulting from the car in front. You should space your cars further apart during the test.
@aidanapword
@aidanapword Год назад
They rotate the cars during the test.
@Dolph681
@Dolph681 Год назад
Great video, thank you for your effort. I'm no expert and can't say what is the best technology for the future, but the EV's short comings are way to many for me to replace my ICE car. Price, charging, range, insurance etc. EV's are very expensive - can't afford one; I can't charge at home or work(own a flat), so only public charging - expensive and time consuming; range in winter is a joke - just commute to work is 45 miles roundtrip for me, add shopping, dropping of kid at school, travel in days off with the family here and there. I'll have to charge the car every 2-3 days for an hour. Insurance in often more expensive. There is no affordable estate EV's on the market, zero. The range anxiety alone will drive me crazy. Currently I drive an estate diesel car, giving me 800+ motorway miles per fuel tank and refuelling takes 4 may be 5 min.
@Lollakuk
@Lollakuk Год назад
Nice test. An error though is that GV60 has around 74 kWh net capacity. 77.4 kWh is whole battery.
@mikeburke9635
@mikeburke9635 Год назад
Very useful. Not something you think of when buying an ICE
@hardykornfeld1733
@hardykornfeld1733 Год назад
My BMW i4 e40 msport just passed 6,000 miles. Driving about 70% highway in Eco mode and averaging 5-7 mph over the limit, it routinely gets 4.0 mi/kWh in mild weather (temps mid-40s to 60s F). The worst efficiency so far was 3.0 mi/kWh with temp 4 F. In less severe winter weather (high 20s to high 30s) it averages about 3.5 mi/kW). I usually set the cabin to 64 F, the seat heater to low, and use the steering wheel heater. So far I’m impressed with the car and happy that it can do my once weekly 150 mile round trip commute in the worst conditions while keeping the state of charge between 20-80%. We have only had the car since October, so no data for very hot days.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Год назад
Great to be rich.
@kliment75
@kliment75 Год назад
Get a Kona, cheaper, better quality and winter over 4mi/kw, summer up to 5mi/kw motorway driving from 64kw battery!
@aston-martin-internationalist
@aston-martin-internationalist 6 месяцев назад
I've just ordered a BMW i4 E Drive 40 M Sport Pro. We seldom get weather that cold in winter in the UK, so to see that you get this efficiently in -20 degrees C is fairly impressive. Mine is due at the dealership in a month, looking forward to it.
@aston-martin-internationalist
@aston-martin-internationalist 6 месяцев назад
​​@@kliment75better quality? Unlikely. It's a decent EV, but it is definitely not better quality. The materials and finish of the car are on a much higher level in the BMW and whilst looks are subjective, the i4 looks much more sleak and upmarket. Efficiency and sell price are not the only selling point. Driving dynamics and overall appeal are paramount for me as a daily hack.
@jonathangurney8628
@jonathangurney8628 Год назад
Bit of an error for jaguar to give you a press car on 22”!
@zerocool801
@zerocool801 Год назад
The Mini just proves that having a small car is the way to go for efficiency whether for electric or ICE.
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Год назад
be interesting to see when the new 40 kwh and 50 kwh models are released what winter range they get.
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Год назад
@Michael they will but it's also being built as an EV from the start as appose to a electrified ICE car and I'm pretty sure mini said these new models are slightly shorter and the 40 kwh being lighter
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager Год назад
Imagine that the 130 miles in the Mini could well cost half as much as the same 130 miles in the Jaguar!
@whocares264
@whocares264 Год назад
, wow the I'd bus was great, look at the size of it.
@roberttaylor5690
@roberttaylor5690 Год назад
I would love them to test my Hyundai Ioniq Electric 38kwh. I regularly get 4.5 m/kWh and even driving very 'normal' on the motorway over 150 miles in the winter. Really struggling to change it for the larger battery newer cars.
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager Год назад
I was thinking that my Ioniq 28 would probably have beaten the all of them on efficiency (my 'winter' average at the moment is 4.8 mi/kWh) and would have bettered the Mini's range before going flat and possibly even beaten the Ora Funky Cat.
@roberttaylor5690
@roberttaylor5690 Год назад
@@FFVoyager I swapped the 28 kWh for the 38. Both are incredible cars to say it was Hyundai's first electric car attempt. I do miss the charging speeds of the 28 too.
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager Год назад
@@roberttaylor5690 I could have bought either - I chose a used 28 because of the charging speed! 😉
@malph9216
@malph9216 Год назад
Last month, Car Magazine did a similar but longer test with a wider range of cars on public roads. The results showed much worse results. For example, the iD Buzz achieved a paltry 164 miles on a charge. The figures in the test are hardly representative because of the short duration and 'sterile' conditions. At least it highlights the limitations of these 'cars' but lets them off very lightly imho.
@piglet5287
@piglet5287 Год назад
Well the duration was determined by when the batteries ran out!What more could you want?
@paulmccann8051
@paulmccann8051 Год назад
But in winter people will use the heated seats Etc so not realistic
@paulmccann8051
@paulmccann8051 Год назад
What
@dangr3957
@dangr3957 Год назад
it’s great compilation. About the Megan and the MG4 claims 270miles it’s kind of nonsense. Could be only possible if you Sunday drive them at slow speed in summer. I have Model S 70 rwd which has a 75kwt battery limited to 69kw. The rated range was 276 mile while the typical range was 221 miles when was new. Usually the truth is in between these two numbers 310kw/h worst case scenario vs. 245kw/h best case scenario. I have 13% degradation over 6.5 years now 60KW available. I have around 190 miles (typical) winter range which is 314wh/miles and 240 summer range which is 250wh/miles. So when you drive a car which has only 60KW and aerodynamically worst, on motorway speed you may have 220miles of range at the best. I think the mini is a fantastic car for shorter journeys! Very very efficient, I want to buy one for my wife one day!
@conradmilson6654
@conradmilson6654 8 месяцев назад
Great review and confirms my resistance to spend 30 or 40 k on a car that will only do on average 200 miles in winter and not much more in summer. There is clearly a lot of people with a lot of spare money if they buy these things. I have a self charging hybrid Lexus that is far superior to your test cars.
@jaz4280
@jaz4280 Год назад
I would have liked to see the Nissan ariya smaller battery 63kWh battery ... It is claimed to be more efficient.
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 11 месяцев назад
So glad you took the time to normalize the temperature settings. Thats something thats been bothering me for ages on tests. I've driven many cars including a lot of ev's and some are obviously set to make you feel like they are better than they are by pulling tricks like that.
@adz675
@adz675 Год назад
Could you add info about whether the cars tested had heat pumps when its an optional extra. e.g. Cupra Born and ID Buzz as it can make quite a difference
@_ZYELYNE_
@_ZYELYNE_ Год назад
My BMW I4 e drive is getting 3.4 most weeks during the winter in city driving conditions. I drive it in eco mode and turn off all climate controls if not needed to get more range. Definitely feel good about the range as I have getting 3.7 since charging so not too much loss in cold weather.
@raakkyanabayan7487
@raakkyanabayan7487 Год назад
Great work guys. Really helpful to me 🙂
@mbatson13
@mbatson13 8 месяцев назад
so did you conduct the test with all the cars in line like the video shows? what about the drafting advantage for each car behind the lead car? Maybe that's just B roll footage.
@GolfAlh
@GolfAlh Год назад
Nice one, but where is the Tesla model 3?
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Год назад
The mini EV is only efficient per mile because the battery is 1/3 the size of the Ariya battery. Any of these cars could make their EV much more efficient by leaving out most of the battery. But the car wouldn't be very useable then.
@MrEstrauss
@MrEstrauss Год назад
This a very good comparison, brilliant. It would be great to see the charging speeds achieved after the test. I am struggling to get my car to achieve even 50% of the claimed fast charging speed the manufacturer promised in their brochure, which was a key reason why I bought my car. I agree the inaccurate stated consumption figures are disappointing in my car too, i am in discussions with the manufacturer.
@rthomp804
@rthomp804 Год назад
I notice that you m/kwh figure is carefully worded as miles per kwh stored in the battery. What this neglects to mention is there can be big differences in the charging efficiency of an EV based on rate of charge and ambient temperature. I've found in the winter 20% or more can be lost at low charge rates. eg a car with a 58kwh battery might take as much as 70kwh to charge it up from the grid or from solar panels during winter. In the summer much less lost. Which magazine does factor this into their measure of economy for EVs. This doesn't affect the range of the car though and your test is excellent for this.
@zeommed
@zeommed Год назад
It's just not worth it to me, the anxiety to tip toe over having the heater on, or the music too loud, or an interior light taking too long to auto off when closing the door, otherwise I might be left stranded in the worse case or in the best case spend 30 minutes charging the thing. Hard pass.
@birdingbilly
@birdingbilly Год назад
Utter nonsense
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ Год назад
wait for better EVs closer to 2030, it's simply not worth it at this time specially if you can't charge at home. when it's -10C my i3S 2022 takes almost 40 minutes charging from 15-85%, unless my battery AND the charger is freezing cold at -20C then i'm closer to 50 minutes... i'm going back to petrol power in 2 weeks time then I dump my EV. since they increased the prices here for electricity it's now even more expensive to drive than any hatchback sipping about 5L/100km. In short, more expensive to drive, hassle with public charging since I can't charge at home nor work since I moved to another city makes it a no brainer just to sell the damn thing and sit it out for better EVs and better infrastructure 👍🏻 edit: with here i'm referring to Sweden
@birdingbilly
@birdingbilly Год назад
@@_TrueDesire_ odd how people in Norway appear to manage ok.
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ Год назад
@@birdingbilly they are like 5-7 years ahead of us 😅
@birdingbilly
@birdingbilly Год назад
@@_TrueDesire_ I think they get the same EVs as in Sweden
@80y3r9
@80y3r9 Год назад
Allowing the cars to continue on limp and not doing 70mph means it's failed and should be stopped there, what's the point of that comparison for the nissan??
@obewann8220
@obewann8220 Год назад
would have been nice if in the summary charts, you showed how much kw were used to to keep the vehicles at 19 degrees
@Peoplestariff
@Peoplestariff Год назад
2.5 miles/kw for ID buzz is awful I’m going to cancel mine I get 4.9 miles/kw in my yorkshire ( eUP! ) but that’s never putting on heating only screen heater and seat heating & keeping below 60 mph in B mode & eco plus
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Год назад
Not shocked at all, I have the Mini Electric and its brilliant fun to drive as well as being super efficient
@technics6215
@technics6215 8 месяцев назад
What about countries like Sweden, Norway or Finland? Typical winter day there is not "between 3 and 6'C".
@renaultopelbmw
@renaultopelbmw Год назад
I have a Zoe 2012 with 104k km and in winter it still gives me 3.1kW/h avg. Sure the range at 100% = 105km but great for the city
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Год назад
I think this only makes sense when your home has two cars.
@cnocspeireag
@cnocspeireag Год назад
Thank you for such an informative comparison. I would be interested in knowing how much energy was used in heating the car to what seems an extravagant 21C. Was I to need to extend my range, I would be happy to put on warmer clothes and limit the temperature to sixteen or less. Would that make much difference? I rarely set the temperature in my ICE car at 21C in the winter. How about a comparison using the same car with different heating modes, if it would make a significant difference?
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Год назад
Its strange they chose to turn off heated seats as that uses way less energy than the cars heater system. Heat the driver not the cabin mentality.
@Draigthedragon
@Draigthedragon Год назад
Remember, the actual temperature want 21°, but 19.5. I agree, in those cars with heated seats, using them would have provided a more realistic, informative test. However, probably harder to compare accurately across cars.
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic Год назад
Also this test isn’t actually fair or realistic. Given the fact that you have removed all real world factors . These tests often don’t account for “fair” being subjective.
@lharris828
@lharris828 Год назад
Pity you didn't test the Hyudai Kona 64
@stephenwensley9328
@stephenwensley9328 Год назад
It would have been interesting to see what the cars achieved with heated steering wheel and seats only, and no climate control being switched on
@bbar182
@bbar182 Год назад
You should do another test with the polestar 2, tesla model 3, vw id4, audi q4, volvo xc 40, skoda enyaq and mercedes eqa.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Год назад
And Niro EV and Ioniq 5 and Leaf.
@johnhal1
@johnhal1 7 дней назад
What about including cars with heat pumps
@ari197
@ari197 Год назад
will you re-do the test but this time where possible with battery pre-conditioning (ie, with the MG4 you can turn on the battery heating prior to your journey) .. in theory it should make your battery more efficient ..
@RichardFanders
@RichardFanders Год назад
Amazing video!
@bojankis5999
@bojankis5999 Год назад
I am shock by this resolts!!!
@shanewaller2864
@shanewaller2864 Год назад
The range is important but knowing what it's actually like to travel those distances in the u.k I would be more interested in actually knowing the length of time that the vehicle could actually travel in that time ,say you have 4 people with luggage on board, its a extremely cold day ,your travelling at night and your using the radio the sat nav the kids have phones and I pads on charge ,how far short of the claimed range and what shortness of time will I be forced to stop and recharge my vehicle. Only last week I drove from hainalt in Essex to john o'groats in Scotland. I went up in my brand new volkswagan t6.1 204 dsg camper van .this journey was over 640 miles in total and 13.5 hours door to door ,only stopped for fuel and toilet breaks and no switching of drivers as I was on my own. I would be keen to see how long that journey would have taken in a new ID BUZZ .maybe this is something you could consider in one of your next long range videos 👍
@jonathantaylor1998
@jonathantaylor1998 Год назад
I guess that all depends on how many times you stopped or fuel & toilet breaks...? The difference with an EV is that, when you stop for a comfort break, instead of your car being sat idle in the services car park, it's plugged in to a rapid charger being 're-fueled' for the next leg of your journey. Based on the iD.Buzz's 192 miles recorded on this test, at an average UK journey speed of about 59mph (last recorded back in 2016) you'd be able to drive around 3 hours before needing to stop for 30 minutes or so to recharge the car. If that's how long you drove each time before the kids need to pee, then you'd have still done the trip in 13.5 hours...
@richardfoster2021
@richardfoster2021 Год назад
A good test on EV !!! What about EV van how well do they do in summer & winter
@hiarindamdas
@hiarindamdas Год назад
I’ve BMW i4 e40 M Sport and I’m getting consistently around 260 miles range during winter while driving in comfort mode. If temperature is moderate it climbs very close to 300. Good test 👏It matches my experience of ownership of the vehicle over last 6 months.
@cabottaxi
@cabottaxi Год назад
Not good advert for electric cars. Manufacturers claimed range vastly different from real world testing.
@owenmcdonald5922
@owenmcdonald5922 Год назад
Smallest battery equals most efficient. Clearly weight of battery is an issue. This is where developing EV's needs to concentrate.
@kliment75
@kliment75 Год назад
Where are the most efficient cars and Korean manufacturers??? How about Hyunday Kona, ionic 5, ionic 6 or Kia nero, and EV 6!? This video sounds like advertisements for german evs, which are not that good at all.
@b8you
@b8you Год назад
Amazing video with excellent information!
@joshuatrexler9431
@joshuatrexler9431 10 месяцев назад
The Jaguar I Pace could easily go 40-50 more miles on 20 inch alloys (this test had them on the inefficient 22's) and if the battery was preconditioned (heated) over night and not cold soaked like this test showed. Basically this is worst case scenario
@Jack-ub5hz
@Jack-ub5hz Год назад
Wouldn't buy on e until they become totally self charging
@januariusa7847
@januariusa7847 Год назад
The Ariya is very impressive
@nxsynjs
@nxsynjs Год назад
Was the car in front changed so each car had turn in front. Otherwise you'll get one car breaking the air, and the rest slipstreaming..
@whatcar
@whatcar Год назад
The order of the cars rotated after each 14.6 mile lap, keeping the test fair.
@benellis7427
@benellis7427 11 месяцев назад
I have an ioniq 38kwh and judging by the mi/kwh of othwr cars i dont think its worth me upgrading yet. I am yet to see under 4.3 mi/kwh and routinely get 5.5-7 which means my tiny 38/kWh battery punches well above its weight for range. Is this test just harsh and i would expect more in the real world?
@joepitt1192
@joepitt1192 Год назад
Ummm I may have missed something but it looks as if you drove them with some benefitting from slipstreaming?
@kevincranexxx
@kevincranexxx Год назад
If I recall in previous tests they said they swap around the order of the cars after each lap.
@whatcar
@whatcar Год назад
@@kevincranexxx This is correct!
@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers
Put a coat on, and put a couple of hot water bottles on the dash and another up your jumper, Increases range. Duh.
@piglet5287
@piglet5287 Год назад
Back to the Stone Age in other words
@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers
@@piglet5287 If you want to increase range when the techno you have isn’t good enough, use any outside the box thinking you can employ. Much cheaper than upgrading a car, if the inconvenience is only occasional. And, smaller cars and batteries are more environmentally friendly. And, aren’t the moderns still using the wheel? Wheels invented from 4,000 - 2,000 BCE. Hot water bottles were first patented in 1903. Therefore much more modern than the wheel. Wheels were invented at the end of the Stone Age and the beginning of the Bronze Age. The hot water bottles in the post industrial age. So, although your mention of the Stone Age was apposite, it was wrongly assigned. My suggested use of not the most modern techno to support modern techno is in essence 6,000 years more modern than the Stone Age wheel being used in electric cars. John Dunlop invented the pneumatic tyre in 1888, so that too is older than the hot water bottle. And, electric cars were first built in 1891, which means that hot water bottles are more modern than the concept of the electric car. People should be better informed, don’t you think?
@sinenomine4540
@sinenomine4540 Год назад
The range of all EVs significantly deteriorate under about -3C.
@TheAsjdj
@TheAsjdj Год назад
Well I wish there was a Tesla 3 long range as it is the cheapest tesla you can get
@far_tech5555
@far_tech5555 Год назад
It is not the winter time who kills the battery but it is heating the car using the AirCon. It just sucks the battery which on the ICE cars, it is basically free heating. But, I don't know why it is not mentioned that it is using AirCon in the winter and not the winter itself. Specially for short distances, using AirCon just kills the efficiency because the first few minutes of using AirCon is using a lot and then it uses less when the temp increases. But in short distances, you just warm up the car for nothing and kill the battery. So I use seat heating and steering heating, which by far use less battery for short distances. And if you have charger at home, it makes good sense to precondition the car before the leave while it is plugged in. Then the consumption will greatly improved in the winter. My car winter consumption in the city on average is 16 Kwh/ 100 km and if I use heatting with 21 C, it increases to 23 to 28, depends on the journy distance.
@buncho64
@buncho64 Год назад
Partly agree to the logic but not in my case. I get cheap overnight electricity between 12:30 and 4:30 @ 7.5p per kWh. If I preheated the car using home electricity at 8am it would cost me near 40p per kWh. So in my case and a lot of others I would have thought, it makes more sense to preheat the car using its own batteries rather than the grid. Yes, the car is less efficient but it will save money overall. In saying this, I don't use public chargers because I don't do very long distances. If I did, perhaps pre-charging at home might make sense, because 40p per kWh is cheaper than most public chargers.
@far_tech5555
@far_tech5555 Год назад
@@buncho64 For economic point of view, it really depends on the time and yes if it is much expensive during the depart time compared to charge time, it makes sense to use the battery for heating But, before I bought my EV, I thought that it is the cold weather, which has the negative impact on the battery because almost all reviewes that I checked before didn't clearly mention that it is the heating not the cold temp. And the difference using aircon or not is huge :)
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Год назад
Depends on the car. Typically my Model Y uses about 1% energy of a journey of any long trip. Then again, Tesla do less in thermal management. As for "free heat" in ICE, I know what you mean but it's far from free. Yes you get to utilise waste but for every mile, more than 65% of money is going to waste, every day. Winter and summer.
@barackblows1942
@barackblows1942 7 месяцев назад
When did they go into thermal runaway and burn to the ground? 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Draigthedragon
@Draigthedragon Год назад
Everybody will want their own car included, but I do think it's a shame you included two Méganes, but only the long range MG. With the short range model hosting a different battery chemistry, it's results would likely have been quite different.
@TsLeng
@TsLeng Год назад
I like the smaller battery MG4. It's also faster since it's lighter😂
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager Год назад
Ditto the standard Tesla Model 3. Which I think would have walked away with range (and possibly efficiency too!)
@davelocktalk
@davelocktalk 11 месяцев назад
We're was the hyundai kona?
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Год назад
Only advertising to the up market executive price range audience here
@chrishannibal5309
@chrishannibal5309 Год назад
Companies need to be more honest with their WLPT ranges....we all know they're utter rubbish
@bazatkinson8369
@bazatkinson8369 Год назад
So it is now very clear that EVs are creating a bigger problem than the one they are trying to solve. It's a mess.
@Jahavek
@Jahavek Год назад
Lots of words for Genesis. Next time add something like: it has wheels.
@anthonypert574
@anthonypert574 7 месяцев назад
Is that cheating plugging them in in.the morning to check it also warms the battery to make them go further i dont top my diesel up in the morning to make sure its not evaporated during the night
@leedorey1490
@leedorey1490 Год назад
EV6 single motor?
@leedorey1490
@leedorey1490 Год назад
@whatcar. I have no idea what that means.
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh Год назад
My EV also exhibits the same shortfall in winter. Having driven one for the past 3 years, I am now totally convinced that full EVs is not the answer to our quest for zero emissions. We do need to reset our thinking about EVs and delay the ban on ICE cars by at least 10 years for new and better technology to be developed. In addition, the UK simply do not have the proper electricity infrastructure and the national grid is seriously deficient too.
@kevincranexxx
@kevincranexxx Год назад
Having driven 4 EV'S over the last 4 years I am convinced they are one of the answers to the net zero target. The 2030 ban is imperative to focus minds on solving the issues that do exist, for example DNOs being far too slow to provide supply to new chargers. The Grid will actually be strengthened by the huge battery capacity that will be available from parked EV'S.
@kevincranexxx
@kevincranexxx Год назад
Fair point Michael. My take is that there are 7 years to go and change is accelerating, I hope you won’t feel the same way by 2025, when you see more cars, cheaper cars, better infrastructure; all with 5 years still to go.
@joeynessily
@joeynessily Год назад
Driven EVs for 6 years, two leafs and a Kia Niro. They work fine in the winter. I can drive the Kia for well over 200 miles in the winter no problem. That’s 4+ hours of driving between stops. Plenty. The lower capacity leafs are a thing of the past and I never had an issue doing a few more stops with those.
@joeynessily
@joeynessily Год назад
Regarding the ban.. it’s a conservative date picked by the government and means nothing. They moved the date forward from 2035 because it makes them look better. The reason it doesn’t matter is because it’s YEARS past the date any major car manufacturer already stated they won’t be making any ICE vehicles. So if those companies already aren’t making ICE cars, there’s nothing that needs to be banned in 2030 anyway. Any existing ICE car will still be able to be sold for at least another decade, long past the lifespan of many of them. Also.. the UK doesn’t own any car companies, and the EU is a bigger market, so if the EU has banned them, then they are effectively banned from the UK.
@davefitzpatrick4841
@davefitzpatrick4841 Год назад
The national grid have stated they can cope, from the 1970s how did we cope with TVs in every room, computers, mobile phones ,dish washers etc all with a increase in population ?? In reality you're talking about another 10+ years before we see the majority of cars being electric . 10 years ago there was only really Tesla making a car that could go more than a 100 miles, now there were plenty in this test that even in winter can do 250+ miles ( more than enough for the majority) so in ten years its easy to see 400-500 mile cars with faster charging times will be available. My main issue is the charging infrastructure needs to improve, Tesla have proved it can be done .
@nabeelmajeed4815
@nabeelmajeed4815 Год назад
Electric car winter ranges are electric cars, it means that like in Canada 🇨🇦 it's too long the batteries can charge so even during the cold.
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh Год назад
You should not fast charge the batteries when it is -10C or lower as it can permanently damage the batteries! Slow charge when inside a garage is the best policy.
@nabeelmajeed4815
@nabeelmajeed4815 Год назад
@@TL-xw6fh that means there will be electric cars in Canada.
@BallantineElectric
@BallantineElectric Год назад
Great video! ⚡️⚡️⚡️
@Steve-Cross
@Steve-Cross Год назад
Yet again, What Car, car of the year. ID Buzz failed miserably. Does it have any good points, apart from carrying space. Just saying. 😊
@TsLeng
@TsLeng Год назад
Current version is rubbish with 5 seats that are fixed. It's crazy for a vehicle with intentions of practicality
@alexandergoldman
@alexandergoldman Год назад
Where's the World Car of the Year, Hyundai Ioniq? Kia EV6? Kia Niro or Kia Soul EV? Missing more affordable and desirable vehicles is such a glaring oversight... Decent, but still disappointing..
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 Год назад
This will be good
@tonykelpie
@tonykelpie Год назад
19.5 degrees is a rather high temperature for winter clothed people
@boo676767
@boo676767 Год назад
Why does no one do this for ICE cars?
@jhonnypusong6906
@jhonnypusong6906 Год назад
Toyota Lexus hybrid is much better range winter or summer. My new Toyota hybrid has a 470 miles ranges Now worries for a long travel. EV is good only for short travel(cities) Home to supermarket only.😅
@richardc2496
@richardc2496 5 месяцев назад
Why no Kia?????
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