Electric Motorcycles - Zero SRS vs Electric Royal Enfield 

So 1.5 days charging. 😆 Yeah, they don't work yet.

@@GingerPiston Yes, they are not for everyone or for every use case. But I had a good few weeks off work between jobs and was in no particular hurry. I decided to do it as a challenge, just for the hell of it. I normally use the bike for commuting 8 miles a day and I charge it once a fortnight in my garage. Or take it out for a sunday blast, ride for a couple of hours, plug in to charge whilst having a bacon roll and a coffee somewhere, then back home. Before I bought it I looked at the type of riding I did and realised that I very rarely go more than 150 miles even on a sunday ride with mates. So a quick 20 min stop somewhere is enough to top it up. I'd love a bike that can go 200 miles, charge up in 20 minutes and cost less than £15k, but I figured that I'd be waiting for years before that is achievable. So I bought this and am absolutely loving it.

You should write a book , I spent more on bacon 🥓 sarnies than fuel

@@rayphot That's an expensive motorbike to use for short trips, but glad you're enjoying it. Just watched another youtuber (teapotone) do the 4 corners of the UK challenge on the Energica. 4 days Vs 2 on a ICE bike. Also Zero have just released the adventure version of yours which is just an absurd notion.

Good effort Ray. I think you and the plug pirate would have a lot to talk about 👍😀

Thanks Gene👍😀

Thanks Chuck. The Photon was badged at ECM - electric Classic motorcycles 👍😀

You now get the extra included

Good work 👍😀

Well done 👍😀

So you have a bike that you can’t use to go anywhere more than 25 miles away?

@@GingerPiston Yes. I wish I'd known that when I bought it - Zero was claiming a CHAdeMO adapter would be available soon, but later dropped the idea when they discovered that most DC charging stations couldn't deliver 100V - and often killed the bike's controller in the process. I'm now trying to make a custom J1772 charger for it.

50 mile real world range is rubbish. 20k for limited range like that is a joke.

@@FlyingFun. Yep. The newer ones are a little better, and with the ability to charge at public charging stations, they allow you to make more use of the available range. The only electric motorbikes I'm aware of that have actually useful real-world range are from Energica - with the 21kWh battery option. That's about 150 miles of freeway range for around $20k.

Well done 👍😀

You need to try it👍😀

I absolutely loved the comment too, is it really true?

I met a guy at Magistraits (trying to avoid a ban for speeding) he got done in Wales at 90 Mph. then thought OK thats the one speed camera today and opened it up.. he got done a 2nd time 5 miles down the road at 145! 6 months ban in those days.. would be a jail sentance now no doubt. The copper would have heard him coming for at least 3 of the 5 miles between them. Likly radioed ahead hearing him scream off into the distance.

That's something we did think about. A removable set of leather paniers on the Photon to extend the range for long journeys, but we never got around to it. A classic case of too many projects, not enough time. 😁👍

Thanks 👍😀

Try energica first they have better range and charging that zeros.

@@clevernduruza8624 I've heard they are better

The Zero weighs 230kg and the Photon 200kg (which is the same as when it was petrol). 👍

Thanks for getting back. Lighter than I had expected.

Love them. Tried one a few months back. 👍

Do it. You'd be the first electric custom motorcycle specialist. #pioneer 😁👍

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Who knows what happened there as it was recorded in 1080p as all our other vids are. Maybe a RU-vid thing for some reason.

All our episodes are recorded in 1080p HD. For some reason this one has only loaded at 720, no idea why but hopefully all future episodes will be back to the normal HD. 👍

Good question, we will ask him and get back to you. 👍😀

Never had a problem, yet, and there's loads of hills in this part of the country. 😁

The hill parking needs a mod to the brake lever , possible and an easy thing to do but if not use a rubber band instead lol.

@@FlyingFun. Thanks for the info, it is something I need to consider. Parking at my workplace is on a hill.

It needs a bullet brake modification. Or a strap on the lever. That's common for Ice bike too. Look at Energica too when you scout out an EV bike.

Thanks. Wonder how many are left? 👍😀

@@spudproductions7606 Probably more in museums than on roads.

I still own a 1954 Ambassador Supream powered by a 225cc Villiers Mark 1H engine. posibly one of the most beutiful looking engines ever made.. with the BSA A65 a close 2nd. not on the road unfortunatly. needs me to find time for a rebuild.

Thanks 👍

Cool👍😀

ECM for motorcycles 👍😀

Good idea. 👍

@@ElectricClassicCars Spud will look good being chauffeured around ..

The Plug Pirate would be proud. 😁👍

Nice one. That's what it's all about. Enjoying a ride on two wheels for virtually nothing.

Thanks 👍😀

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All owners of MY22 Premium SR/S and SR/F will receive the following upgrades at no charge: +10% Charging: 6kWh > 6.6kW +10% Extended Range: 15.6kWh > 17.3kWh Park Mode

Limited range? There is a video on RU-vid of a guy travelling 76 miles to work, at speeds up to 85 mph, and that's the majority of the journey not just a few miles. He used 40% of his battery. If I did that on my old CBR600, it would have used close to half a tank. The Livewire has DC fast charging, so by the time you've had a coffee it's full again. Electric bikes are new technology, ICE has been around over 100 years, EVs are only going to get better.

@@andrewmorgan6775 link? I dont kind the range too much tbh, I had an early xv535 which barely did 90 miles to a tank and got by just fine. I'm looking out for a livewire but not wanting to pay £29k .

@@FlyingFun. Here's the "Daily commute" video, enjoy 🙂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H_lUAqX9I7s.html

Yes. Very proud. And glad he wasn't brought up on bikes. 😁

Had the same experience with a land speed record bike when we couldn’t understand why it went backwards at the start line. 😂😂

A lot of 2T snowmobiles actually do this at the push of a button to reverse. The ignition cuts out for a split second and them fires again timed just right to kick the engine over in reverse. Push the button again and it starts it running forward again. Basically no additional weight or gearbox to fail.

Got a few Livewires out east too 😉

Thanks 👍😀

Do they have free charging at supermarkets yet?

@@spudproductions7606 everything I have seen at supermarkets is paid. Where are you from and is it free supermarket charging?

@@noah786 mid Wales. Some chargers are free and some you pay for. Tesco supermarket is free. 👍😀

Enertrac motor, but I'm not sure if they're still available as it was as a few years ago now that we built this bike.

@@ElectricClassicCars thank you for anwer

Thanks 👍😀

To answer your comment on whether the national grid can cope with electric cars you're best to watch this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zSRXVWQLxPY.html With regards to whether a classic car is still a classic car with a modern drive unit replacing the old fossil fuel burner, well for me having driven electric classics for the past 7 years I would say YES it's still a classic car. It's like replacing your old classic homes heating from coal fireplaces to a modern central heating system. It's still an old house, but now it's easier and more enjoyable to live with on day to day basis, and cheaper to run too. Don't knock it till you've tried it. 👍

@@ElectricClassicCars I’m not knocking the electric motor at all. I belonged to an electric car club in 1981 and we converted VW’s, Ford Pintos, MG’s, you name it, as long as they were small! Our motors were mostly military surplus electric motors off of anything they had that was surplus containing a motor! We made our own motor to transmission adapters and put golf cart batteries in them with a home made power controllers or relays to connect the battery power to the motors. Wow, was it fun! Back then electric cars were really frowned on because you didn’t pay any fuel taxes, ha, without buying fuel so the club members were told not to advertise your homemade EV with any placard’s or license plates bragging about being all electric! The only real problem was the EV conversion’s range was only about 50 miles with the deep cycle batteries and it took at least 8 - 10 hours to charged them. Your classic car & motorcycle conversions look really cool, but my comments about calling them classics was mostly aimed at motorcycles because when Harley came out with their first prototype EV Harley, Harley dudes laughed because the big V-Twin was not between their legs! I grew up riding BSA’s, Triumphs, Harleys and Nortons and a motorcycle was 99% the engine so it would be hard for me to look at a converted Triumph Bonneville or BSA to EV and talk about it as a Classic still! Ha! That is just me! The grid comment was just based on how soon the politicians want a 100% EV conversion when the power grids in America are so pathetic now! Love your video!

Yep, unfortunately we couldn't find anywhere for the Type2 socket to fit.

@@ElectricClassicCars yeah it is a bit of a chunky boi. i dfo like how the base model Zeros do it where there is a standard Kettle lead/PC plug and a type-2 cable on that to use on public chargers, pricey though about £200 a cable

Depending on where you're at. I've owned electric bikes for 2 years here in the states, and I pay road use taxes for mine

Thanks. We used an Enertrac motor. 👍

@@ElectricClassicCars Thanks for the information.

The Plug Pirate would be proud. 😉👍

Probably very easy in sport mode 👍😀

Would be to take the traction control off

He’s a cool dude. 👍😀

I was Peter Pan when I was younger. (P.P to P.P)