I love my electric kit because I only require 1 input on the mixing board as apposed to an acoustic kit where I have to mic everything and use up alot of channels on the board.
I don’t know whether to get acoustic or electronic. I really want acoustic but I’m worried about the noise my family can handle it but I’m not sure about neighbors.
If you want acoustic try to get like an Alesis Strike pro SE electric drums those are like acoustic it's just electric but it does cost $2500. Just do what I do just get a job and around 2 months you should get like around $3000 or more depends on where you work but I mean I work at a low job and I still get that much just for 2 months and I'm only 16
You can use 1 mic. It's all about placement. Find an audio engineer who has done some live shows and recordings. Picking their brains can be a treasure trove of information.
look up zildjian low volume cymbals. They come with heads that significantly mute the toms and snare and the cymbals make very little noise. look at sweetwaters video, they made one about it.
I have a acoustic drum, but my room does way to much echo, and I feel that I’m playing horrible, maybe I am, but I really doubt it cause I’ve been in classes and I sound good there.
One of the Cons obviously... Yeah man that happens all the time, I don't get why people idolize Acoustic kits.. I mean compare a Dw with high end Zildjian Cimbals to a Roland T-50. It's like Samsung and Apple. They're both great one better than the other on some areas. Both worthy of being called musical instruments.. and it takes dedication and talent to master the drums, period. Doesn't matter if it's acoustic or electric when both kits are high end.. If we compare low end kits side to side (acoustic and electric) we arguably won't be able to progress regardless if it's acoustic or electric (Not literally, I'm just saying it's detrimental).. Anyways that's my opinion, have a great day bro
electric kit easyer to set up/ opens the door to plug in software synths to more drum kits..next you can use guitar effects reverbs delays synths also with roland you 3 zones td skins you put them on almost any shell /mesh dosent need to be replaced or tuned they dont change from stage to stage..your kid your mom and dad will love them
I like acoustic drums. I like playing live shows with smaller crowds. Acoustic drums sound way more powerful live when you're on a budget. If I primarily just played at home, I would likely go for electric.
Great video. Thanks! There have been quite a few thoughts which are not discussed in the usual "acoustic vs electronic" discussion. Thanks for taking the time and pointing them out. I'm "just" a music lover and do not play drums (but guitar). My son (11) started to learn drumming a year ago. He'd love an acoustic set. I would favour that too, but this is not an option under the current conditions. After his first year we now want to upgrade from a TD1-KV to the TD17-KV(X). What I personally find is limiting a bit with an electronic kit is: 1) I think it inspires less than an acoustic kit. 2) The expresiveness seems limited to me, due the kit less responding to finer details and less options to alter the sound through the playing itself. This second point I think is _the_ disadvantage of electronic kits -- but as you mention of course there are also many advantages! What are the options to counteract the 2nd shortfall? A) Given that an acoustic full set is not an option (mostly due the noise) I wonder what is the best way to practice the more subtle details of playing. I could imagine to try to use a practice pad to some extent and / or to try to build up an acoustic low-noise low-budget "practice kit" comprised of "real stuff" which is more silent, but reacts to different touches. This "real stuff" can be anything: the typical pillows, books but also metallic parts (acting as a cymbal for example) and so on. B) I see that indeed electronic kits are limited in the response they give for different dynamics in playing. See for example the test here: www.bonedo.de/artikel/einzelansicht/roland-td-17kvx-e-drum-set-test/2.html Scroll down to this picture: www.bonedo.de/fileadmin/_processed_/e/a/csm_22_Roland_TD17_Snare_Dynamik_Grafik_1b69b109f2.jpg This shows in the top row a sound recorded with a microphone (hitting the PDX-12 snare), while the bottom row shows the output generated at the according strokes. Up to about 60 % of the actually dynamic played range the output keeps up, but then hits a ceiling and does not scale with increased dynamics. IMO this is one of the major shortfalls why an acoustic set is in that sense preferabele. In a similiar test of the TD50-KV the same problem is visible, when hitting the PD-140DS: www.bonedo.de/artikel/einzelansicht/roland-td-50kv-v-drum-set-test/2.html (screenshot see: www.bonedo.de/fileadmin/_processed_/5/3/csm_Roland_TD50_Dynamik_Snarepad_5a858738d1.jpg) but to a much lesser extent -- only at the very end of the dynamics range. Price-wise the TD50 is not an option. So my question is if the limited dynamics of the TD17 snare are a property of the pads or the drum-module or both? If it's only the drum module then using a VST-drum could be a solution, right? If it's the pad could a change to a drum-tec snare be a solution for that?
Both mostly module. Pad uses piezo (like microphone) sensor and the module converts this analogue signal into digital midi note with a velocity 0-128. So you have 128 range of sounds you can produce (sometimes its just a volume change with a velocity) but if you hit pad at certain velocity if its going to be converted to correct midi velocity its up to mesh head material into piezo noise into module algorithm analog to digital conversion
Drumshack London The fun thing about Electric Drum sets (or any Electric Instrument) is that it's more Ergonomic & less Bulky. Of course the Acoustic Drum set would lend itself to an Unplugged setting.
I want the acoustic drum because you can take it anywhere. Without electricity. But I live in a condominium. So I need electronic drums. But I can stay in my room so my neighbours wont be anoid, idk heh
Thank you for your helpful video. You are an inspiring and cool person. I’m still on the fence (noise being the main issue) but simply love everything about acoustic drums.
May actually opt for the Tama Club Jam. Seems like a nice space saving kit that is affordable whilst not compromising too much on sound and build quality.
Thank you for this informative video! I have an electronic kit and will perform in a concert in less than a month from now, but I haven't practiced on an acoustic kit... any tips/warnings?
@@fggijsk3199 ... there was a delay in shipping. Won't be here till Monday now. I'm very disappointed about that. Check back Monday night and I'll let you know.
@@mitchmcturtle6890 absolutely hated it. Sent directly back. It was completely incapable of keeping up with me. Very unresponsive triggers. I will say on the good side, the sounds, samples, options and crisp, clear POWERFUL sound quality was fantastic and fun.
Never seen the channel but instantly knew I'd like it. Great video brother. Props from the states. EDIT: What was your Mic set up on the acoustic kit? Sounds great, 2 or 3 mic method?
I prefer electric drums on any day. It's cheaper, quicker, and easier to get a good sound for the band. If you are trying to do a "live stream" of your performance- this makes it much easier, and cheaper too. I'm a guitarist, just so you know... so I'm thinking about the overall sound quality of the band. One thing that makes for good sound is a "quiet" stage... that replicates the "studio" environment as closely as possible. Electric drums are quiet! You will not get the drums coming out of vocal mics. 2) you can control the volume of an electric drum set making for a better sound mix to suit any size of room where you may be performing. It's also easier and faster to balance the rest of the band. In contrast, in a small venue the sound from an acoustic set will spill over to the front of house and mess up the sound mix. 3) Many electric drum sets only need 3 or 4 channels on a mixer, unlike an acoustic set that needs a mic for every piece on the set - potentially 8 or more channels. 4) Even cheap electric drum kits sound good and can have all kinds of plugins to approximate any kind of drum kit or sound. 5) Generally, with an electric set we can set up quickly and mix the sound without needing a professional sound engineer. In contrast acoustic sets are noisy on stage and their ambient sound often goes through vocal microphones messing up the sound. Acoustic sets are notoriously difficult with volume control; even with the most accomplished of drummers. Good sounding acoustic sets are very expensive. Further more, they must have very good microphones (which often can cost as much as the acoustic drum set). Because acoustic sets need so many microphones, you must buy a bigger sound mixer with more channels which just makes this option even more expensive. If that's not enough, you must have a professional sound engineer with the band to get a good mix when using acoustic drums. The condenser mics that are used for acoustic drums can make the sound mix susceptible to "feed back".
Depends on the sound quality you are looking for.... I feel like quality of electric kits drops off FAST. if it was my money and that was my budget, I would go acoustic.
@@Morphoidism to be fair I don't have a ton of experience with cheaper kits... I have heard that the cheaper units don't sound as good and the cheaper triggers are not as responsive, and quality drops quickly as you lower the budget. Where as with acoustic kits it's easier to find a good sounding kit for less money.
@@dakotamorgan6594 Ah, that's what you meant. Yeah you're right, kits lower than the $300 range are pretty bad, but over $300 you can get a pretty good starter kit.
Only thing really keeping me from getting an Ekit, is hearing some stuff goes out and breaks, or sounds lower than the other. These things don’t seem to hold up
Really depends on brand and model. We have a Roland kit at my church and it has lasted for years with no issues... lower end Alesis kits on the other hand...
I played an electronic kit with mesh heads for 3 years and switched now to acoustic: I find the technique much easier on the e-kit, especially double strokes
I’m Moving Into A House In A Few Months. So I Bought An Electric Kit To Practice In My Current Apartment. I Might Switch To Acoustic Once I Move. Any Advice on this? Am I Spending A Bit Much?
only started playing drums for a couple of weeks now (mainly bassist and produce music) bought an alesis surge kit used and been playing on it and while it's definitely practical, it's just not that inspiring. when i went to my drum lesson and sat down at a real kit for the first time i had butterflies in my stomach just from the excitement of getting to play on a real kit. I decided that i'm gonna try to find a relaly good cheap deal on a basic acoustic kit and see how it feels like to play at home with it. worse case i will convert it to a low noise kit with the various conversions out there. Only thing that is really practical about the ekit is being able to use it with midi for producing stuff. wayyyy simpler than mic-ing up a kit plus as you said you can really experiment with loads of genres and sounds. but i still want to have this acoustic kit at least to give it a proper comparison.
If you are recording and trying to live stream your performance, electric drums make for a better overall sound any day. The sound of drums going in through vocal microphones compromises the sound totally.
Question; if we were to have a weekly haul in haul out setup with very limited time and number of people setting up, what would u suggest? Acoustic or Edrum? Need ur thoughts. Or anyone? Thanks. Appreciate u
acoustic cuz if u train on electric one for a year u actually did nothing cuz when u sit on a acoustic one u probably wouldnt play good as electric,as he said electric kits makes u sounds good
The problem iv encountered is the position of the kick drum pedal on the electric kit vs on acoustic kit ,i cant get used to having the kick pedal so far forward on acoustic .
I had an acoustic j used to play a lot but now I can’t play it because my mom recently has twins so I’m getting electronic ones this week so I can turn it down but my mom said that in a few years when I move out I can okay acoustic again
so as a beginner should i get the acoustic or electric and why should u get it also how different are they and which one plays better and like if i play on an electric guitar then switch to acoustic will it sound the same and be the same as an electric on or no? And why
Great list, but the hihats and cymbals are neves going to be the same in an electronic set. If you play basic stuff or chops, electronic are good. If you wanna groove and do cool hihat stuff, it's nowhere near the same
@@erictorres4889 who told you that? I have an Alexis strike kit that runs 5 toms, a snare, 2 bass, ride, high hat, 3 splash, China bell, etc. I can still add about 5 more triggers if I wanted. Also, the really high end mimic pro kits can take an unlimited number of drums by chaining modules together. Also, not all e drums look like the toy this guy is playing on in the video. You'd be hard pressed to tell my kit apart from an acoustic kit, since it uses traditional acoustic shells.
Landon ok but I prefer acoustic drums and you can’t change my mind . They look better and sound better I play metal you can’t even do cymbal chokes on electric ones but with acoustic sets you can .
@@erictorres4889 not trying to change your mind, or your opinion on e drums... but many of your assumptions are just wrong about them... The sound is one area where you can certainly have a point, and I cannot argue with you on that. However, you seem to be a little misguided about what e drums actually look like and their features. My e drum set looks just like an acoustic set, because it uses the same exact shells, as well as metal triggered cymbals, and every single one of my cymbals is chockable... even the cheaper $300 toy kits have chokeable cymbles. Basically, not liking the sound, or the idea in general, are valid reasons to dislike edrums... but many of their points you have been making, like no choke on cymbals, no expansion options, etc are simply wrong - it makes me think the only e drums you have experience with are the cheap-o Rolands and such that look like toy rubber pads - but in the high-end and custom e drum field, none of your assumptions are correct aboit features. Pearl makes a beutiful e drum kit that uses the same shells as their regular acoustic drums, and that module can accept 16 inputs, and as many others as you want by chaining modules. So I'm not trying to change your mind on e drums... some people like them, some dont. I'm just clearing up some misconceptions about them for you and anyone else reading these comments so they have a clear picture.
Not sure how they are better. Both have their place. For quiet practice ekits are great because of metronome, and many other training programs offered by modern sound modules. As far as sound and playability goes, if you get top of the line ekits then the sounds are equal to professionally recorded drums because that's what the samples are. And they aren't easier to play unless you purposely change the settings to make your strokes sound more even. If you know what you are doing with an ekit then you cam really take advantage of its numerous features. While more limited an acoustic kit does look much nicer with more finish options. You can tweak the sounds with tunning, dampening and imo achieve a more unique sound. Also they generally sound better in small venues. For home studio however, I would choose an ekit.