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Electrical or Ignition Issue Ford 800 Pt 1 

Tractorman44
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This is a 3 year old video that was never edited. Its still a pertinent video about the life and death of tractors and sometimes of the guys working on them. Fortunately neither met their demise during the recording of this video.
This tractor was given to me by a friend around 1980. His father in law had recently bought some very remote property and had been keeping this tractor and a bush hog under a tree, using them to trim the area preparing to start food plots on weekend visits. After a few months seeing visible proof there had been hunters in the area, he immediately posted no trespassing signs all throughout the several hundred acres. All this time the tractor sat under the tree unmolested....after the signs were installed the first visit back found the tractor vandalized and missing parts. The back tires were slashed with an axe, the steering wheel was beat down around the dash, the gauges were smashed, the sheet metal was bent and twisted off with force to give access to the radiator that too was missing. The oil fill cap was missing the water had gotten in the lower end of the engine. The grill was gone, and part of the three point system was missing and the seat was axed. The front tires were flat but ok and remarkably still on the tractor today, 40+ years later.
So after the insurance company took care of the situation, the old 800 was nothing but a hunk of junk just sitting there deteriorating more. I was working on my buddy's walk-in beer cooler at the liquor store he owned and offered the tractor to me for the hauling, as his father in law had no use for it any longer. Wasting no time, my Much Older Brother and myself picked up my friend, went to the location, winched it on the trailer and brought it home.
My Much Older Brother offered to go through it and get it going for me as I was in the middle of finishing the new home build, settling in to a new job and kinda keeping busy with the new addition to the family...our firstborn. Long story short he worked very close to a Ford tractor new and used parts shop and picked up little by little everything needed...new pistons, rings, gaskets etc. for the engine, a used radiator, some used parts for the three point and all new dash components along with an alternator and wiring. All totaled it cost roughly $500 to get it back together and running smooth. The metal was so bent and twisted during the destruction of the tractor it took me many years to get the time to beat them into the semblance of Ford parts. I'm still missing the grill and the hood emblem. But no matter...one day I'll find another donor 800 and replace ALL the sheet metal at one time.
So, obviously this is only part one and as stated above recorded three years + - years ago, so part two will be following soon. #ford, #tractor, #delco

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@jankotze1959
@jankotze1959 Год назад
Very nice Wendell, thanks for taking us back into the future, looking out for part 2👌👍
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Hahahahaha....back to the future...LOL good one Jan. Yeah, I've got at least a half dozen SC cards filled with videos I haven't had the chance to edit yet. Some never will now.
@RCAFpolarexpress
@RCAFpolarexpress Год назад
Good Evening Sir, I read the entire text and I'm sooo not happy that poor tractor molesting story,,, can't wait to see the part 2 Sir Cheers
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
The old tractor had a rough life before I got it for sure. It was a mess !! The damage was terrible. I hope the guys that stole the parts off of it and destroyed it are really happy with their bounty.
@jimdandy9671
@jimdandy9671 Год назад
I would check the ignition switch to make sure that the ignition circuit opens when shut off. If not it can burn it can burn those points while the tractor not running, depending on their position.
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Good point !! That's easy enough to verify. I've had that happen before.
@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE
@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE Год назад
Even though the video is an oldie, it's a goodie Wendell 😁👍 Take care 🔧🔩
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Thanks Zane...part 2 might turn out better....I'm still not done with editing yet. Have a great day enjoying the mild weather. Actually, its a steady rain over here at the moment.
@gatorsworld
@gatorsworld Год назад
I liked that tank...It was just about to get interesting and then it`s over for now.....Just like on TV.... you're keeping us in suspense....well done....CHEERS
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Yeah....I recorded this one so long ago I don't remember WHY I stopped it so abruptly...LOL Thanks for stopping in Gator.
@ThoenWorks
@ThoenWorks Год назад
When it warms up a bit, i have to do a similar diagnosis on my old Massey 33.
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Heck yeah !! I've got an old 33 with a Freeman loader and a bad manifold.
@deanbarr5740
@deanbarr5740 Год назад
Tm44 I like em ole Ford tractors, but then I like all brands. Ain't that about the time Ford started the two stage clutch and Live Power on the PTO? I used to have an old 9 N 1939 model. Loved the old girl but they only had hydraulics when the PTO was engaged. Ran good but I never trusted the hydraulics.
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
I'm not sure exactly when the two stage clutch/live power came into the picture Dean, but I do know the 000 series after this series ran its course has it as an option. I had two 4000's that had 'em. That brings up a point...after all the work I did on the 2000 I've never checked it for a two stage clutch. I don't really use bush hogs or other pto driven implements so its not too much of a concern for me anyway. I helped my Much Older Brother reinstall his flywheel on the JD 301 and it has a 2 stage, but its also an early '70's model. Tractors advanced a lot between '60' and '70.
@akquilter3519
@akquilter3519 Год назад
Baking brownies just waiting for the follow-up video. Good looking new fuel tank!1
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Oooohhh !! I LIKE brownies. LOL Part 2 coming about the time another batch of brownies are done.... Ok, well maybe not quite THAT fast.
@Pennies_on_the_dollar
@Pennies_on_the_dollar Год назад
Man yeah, I am digging these older videos Mr Wendell!! I am looking fwd to part 2, brings back memories of the 641 workmaster 😁😁 That tank is amazing!!! Love the exhaust pipe😉😉 Thank you sir for bringing us along, looking fwd to seeing what's next!! 😁😁😁👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
My buddy that's a Cub Cadet and Mahindra tractor dealer had a couple extra gas tanks and made the donation to me. One thing about it, it won't rust anytime soon !! I've got quite a few SD cards filled with unedited videos from early on. I just couldn't keep up with the editing. I'll never get to most of them though...but one will slip in ever so often. Thanks for the visit.
@Pennies_on_the_dollar
@Pennies_on_the_dollar Год назад
@@tractorman4461 Really enjoy them Mr Wendell!! 😁😁👍👍
@tomfillmore9710
@tomfillmore9710 Год назад
Good job Wendell hopefully that makes the old girl run better thanks for sharing take care see you on the next video
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Good Morning Tom. I hope all is well up North. Really mild down here, almost like an early Spring. This should've been a single video...I don't know why I just stopped right there. Oh well, part 2 coming soon.
@powrguy1696
@powrguy1696 Год назад
I've seen so many of the old tractors with jury-rigged wires, splices without insulation, wires left un-secured that contact the exhaust manifolds/pipes or engine block, etc. that short out over time. You always do it the correct way, and route and secure parts as they should be, in the clear without risk of heat damaging the insulation. Likewise, ground wires ALWAYS have to be secured and properly connected to eliminate loss of contact, which causes all sorts of strange electrical issues. The other thing I notice on old tractors, is where people don't use metal fuel lines from the tank to the carb, and they wind up melting against the hot parts which is a real fire hazard, and a failure point, for sure.
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
A lot of 'new' old tractor owners don't realize is how much trouble a bad ground provides for sure. The worst thing a guy can do that gets grandpas old tractor that hasn't run in 15 years is to strip out all the points, condensor, coil and buy a carb kit and do it ALL before getting it to run first. They introduce a dozen new potential points of failure. I always try to get them running with what's there before stripping it all down to nothing. I use flexible gas line hose on occasion, but usually its kept at a minimum. I change a lot of them to copper and sometimes I'll use brake line. But that gets to be an issue too...but that's a different story. I really do try to zip tie wires out of the way as much as possible and use a lot of the flexible split wire protecting sheath as well.
@DIYMyWay
@DIYMyWay Год назад
Hey Wendell! Now THAT’S a fancy temporary fuel tank! I’ve got one of those zip tie tools for the big ductwork zip ties and some of the zip ties. Very handy to have for situations just like this. You’re going to leave me in suspense as to whether it starts or not? Oh well, you can be sure I’ll be back for part 2. Thanks for sharing!
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
That zip tie tool is probably 30 years old, actually older than that. Probably from '81 or '82 at least. I don't know why I stopped the video so abruptly except there's over an hour to each one. LOL. I did a lot of cutting and intend to do the same on part 2. Thanks for the visit Martin.
@baroja5303
@baroja5303 Год назад
buen tractorcillo
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Sí, es mi amigo. Tiene 172 pulgadas cúbicas y transmisión de 5 velocidades. Neutral es arriba y abajo en lugar de izquierda y derecha.
@siskiyouwoodsman4279
@siskiyouwoodsman4279 Год назад
Hey Wendell this is off topic but somewhere along the line I missed why you always refer to your brother as “my much older brother” I’m thinkin’ that there’s a humorous story behind that🤔 Looking forward to part two of this one.
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Hahahaha...he's 12 years my senior and all the women tell him I look older, so I stress that he's my Much Older Brother. LOL He eats it up !! The ladies ALWAYS like him better than me..he's got that boyish smile. (-;
@siskiyouwoodsman4279
@siskiyouwoodsman4279 Год назад
@@tractorman4461 Thanks Wendell, I get it…ha ha
@mattthescrapwhisperer
@mattthescrapwhisperer Год назад
That zip tie tensioning tool is pretty slick! I need to pick one up.
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Yes Matt, and they work perfectly fine on the thinner zip ties too, just can't squeeze as tightly. It'll break them very easily. www.amazon.com/Knoweasy-Tensioning-Cutting-Plastic-Fasteners/dp/B08FR639VX/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1Z4R9VG3XL3N0&keywords=malco%2Bzip%2Btie%2Btensioner&qid=1676496381&sprefix=malco%2Bzip%2Btie%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-3&th=1 This is one variation.
@mattthescrapwhisperer
@mattthescrapwhisperer Год назад
@@tractorman4461 thanks!
@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983
@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983 Год назад
Well he'll be interesting to see what more you have to do to it in order to get it to start if anyting. Hanako who was a GM mechanic. But he could fix any import and it only took about 5 minutes. A John Deere guy might tell you the same thing. You always have to start with your import or non John Deere tractor working on it at top of the hill. First thing you do is take the radiator cap off. Put it in neutral and give a shout down the hill so it flies downhill goes off the cliff. You just fixture import car. Or your Ford tractor. The removal of the radiator cap it so you can put it on the wall. 🤣🤣🤣. Oh just have a little bit of fun. Besides I own a couple of imports and I own two Ford tractors. I am partial to my John Deere as impractical as that one is.
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Hahahahaha....that's kinda what my auto mechanic buddy always said about Fords: Jack up the windshield wipers and drive a new car under 'em. LOL This is a three year old video I didn't get around to editing yet. That's how close I am to being caught up !!
@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983
@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983 Год назад
@@tractorman4461 it just gets back to whatever you like I suppose. But I seem like a good sampling of all of them. You had mentioned in your video I was 3 years ago. But I was thinking they were little bit more current for the most part. Just make sure your vehicles now have a gas gauge. Our gal half container gases back of the pickup bed.
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
@@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983 Yeah...I'm not too concerned about brands...all of them have really good vehicles or tractors or motorcycles and all of them have some pooches. For sure. But there are guys that argue brand on all levels as the best there is.
@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983
@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983 Год назад
@@tractorman4461 yes I agree 👍
@tonyjones9715
@tonyjones9715 Год назад
👍👍👍 thanks
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
Thanks Tony for watching....part 2 and the final diagnosis coming soon !! (-;
@leepatton1180
@leepatton1180 Год назад
Hi tractor man this video reminds me I haven't solved the alternator problem on my 1976 international 140 the alt.is putting out 15.4 volts is this to high
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
It's generally suggested that the alternator shouldn't put out above 14.5 or 14.6 volts Lee. If its a Delco internally regulated alternator, there could be a problem internally. 15.4 could boil your battery dry. Have you double checked the reading with a second digital voltmeter? 'There's a slight possibility the output reading isn't accurate...slight.
@leepatton1180
@leepatton1180 Год назад
@@tractorman4461 that a possibility the battery is reading 12.6
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
@@leepatton1180 Battery static voltage at rest for a fully charged battery is 12.6. The reading at the battery will increase once the engine is started and alternator output begins. If it goes to 15.4 at the battery while running, that is a bit much indicating a possible internal issue with the internal regulator.
@leepatton1180
@leepatton1180 Год назад
@@tractorman4461 are the low cost rebuild alternators worth trying
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Год назад
@@leepatton1180 I'm pretty sure that's all I run when using delco. Usually about 50 to 60 bucks for a cheap 55 amp. But I use denso one wires on some of them too. I like the very small diameter. Only 4 1/2" and they don't interfere with the metal on the Farmalls. I think the last one of those I bought was 42 bucks. If I were you I'd ask a trusted counter man at the auto parts store if there's a simple way to check the alternator. Our local NAPA will bench test for you.
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