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@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
*How can you form an image if electrons don't follow straight lines?* I accidentally left out some important details in an effort to keep it simple, my apologies! The secondary electron detector is a "single pixel" detector. So it only knows when it receives an electron, and doesn't have any kind of spatial knowledge. The machine will focus the beam onto a specific region, count how many electrons the detector receives, then move to the next pixel and repeat. So it doesn't matter what trajectory the electrons take to get to the detector, as long as they arrive before the beam moves to the next pixel. Hope this helps clear up some confusion!
@MR-ub6sq
@MR-ub6sq Год назад
Since the English language is not my strong point, I am wondering about something that, according to my knowledge, is not correct: The title of the video contains the indefinite article "an" followed by a consonant. I understand that "an" is used when its object starts with a vowel and "a" is used when the next letter is a consonant. So why is it like this: "...an SEM..." ?
@kennybowman5139
@kennybowman5139 Год назад
Great explanation! The only thing I would add is the way it moves from pixel to pixel within the substrate is an array of octapoles. the octapoles use positively charged capacitance to pull the beam from pixel to pixel similar to the rastering you would see in a slow motion capture of a cathode ray tube tv.
@YodaWhat
@YodaWhat Год назад
@@MR-ub6sq That issue seems to have been removed, but here's the answer anyway... F, L, M, N, R, S, X, and sometimes H are typically spoken as beginning with a soft vowel-like sound. Mostly the sound is like E, sometimes like A. As vowel mimics, the may be preceded by 'a'. Is that strictly proper English? I don't know, but it is commonly accepted. 'W' is something of an exception. And of course, other consonants are typically spoken with a harder, more percussive sound. English is weird.
@MR-ub6sq
@MR-ub6sq Год назад
@@YodaWhat Alright. You are right. You obviously meant acronyms, because I understand that SEM is like that and abbreviations are of course pronounced single letters in a row like "es ii em". So the "word" S is pronounced like "es" and as such begins with a vowel. I hadn't realized this possibility, but thanks for the tip. We're wiser now :) It's true that it LOOKS weird when written though.
@YodaWhat
@YodaWhat Год назад
@@MR-ub6sq It is not only the vowel-like case with acronyms. For many words, when the first letter comes from the list F, L, M, N, R, S, X, and sometimes H, that first letter is spoken somewhat softly, as is it were a vowel. The vowel-like H is heard in the way the British pronounce "Houston" like "yoo-ston". Americans begin "Houston" with a rather breathy exhalation, similar to the beginning of "huge". Here is a silly mnemonic for the list: Falcons Like Mice Not Rats So eXcuse Hawk Weakness.
@otv9005
@otv9005 Год назад
Dude, i think i speak for many by saying i completely don't mind seeing longer videos. I could watch this for hours. Thanks for all your work.
@kevinbissinger
@kevinbissinger Год назад
yeah, but not the algorithm :(
@miles11we
@miles11we Год назад
​@Kevin Bissinger yeah it's definitely a tough nut to crack with sciency videos on YT, like yeah a bunch of us would love 3hr videos but what if we don't watch the video all at once? Does the algorithm see that as viewer fall off/lack of retention? How much of a really dense video is the average viewer gonna watch? It's hard to get new viewers if the average person feels totally lost without watching a bunch of previous videos. So splitting your video up into parts might not be a good work around either. But then if you go too simplified is your core audience going to become disinterested? And all of that is ignoring the upload scheduling shit where (I think) making fewer more complex videos is less advantageous over more frequent shorter content.
@Wtfinc
@Wtfinc Год назад
cant watch it with headphones because of the high pitch whine
@progi3751
@progi3751 Год назад
felt like 5 mins
@jamesbaxter8914
@jamesbaxter8914 Год назад
As someone who works with SEM professionally, the descriptions in this video are very well articulated.
@evanbarnes9984
@evanbarnes9984 Год назад
I just love that you have an SEM in your shop and can really show us how it works. Seriously cool tool to have at your disposal. I also really like your use of the Concepts app for illustrating this! I just started using it similarly as my whiteboard for my math classes. It's really nice to be able to draw a triangle, duplicate it, and scale it, and then be like "that's what similar means."
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
First time using Concepts, but I really like it so far! I've seen a few other channels use it to great effect (most notably Stuff Made Here) and this seemed like a good project to try it out on!
@AcesseAcessoVip
@AcesseAcessoVip Год назад
Your channel is seriously undervalued. I love your content, thank you for putting up such a great work
@McImTheBear
@McImTheBear Год назад
I need you to know what you're doing on RU-vid is phenomenal. A lot of RU-vidrs get caught up with making every video better than the last and then they stop. I hope you don't fall into that. Everything you share on your channel is so interesting to me and I love learning it all. Thank you.
@WhenItComesToThisShit
@WhenItComesToThisShit Год назад
Wow man, seriously impressive you have the grit to even attempt such a notion in your personal machine shop. Your cohesive understanding of a variety of practices is very enthralling. I am just discovering how deep of an appreciation I have for those who actively seek knowledge, and I appreciate your candor. I'm glad the internet exists so I can live vicariously through those with the resources.
@ThatGuy-fi9bm
@ThatGuy-fi9bm Год назад
That’s cool! Never seen that before, I work with STEM a lot and really like the technique and what it can do, I guess it would be fun to see a resolution comparison between the “STEM” and regular SEM.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
I'll include one next time, that's a good idea! Have some improvements to make to the device then would be fun to see how it compares to SEM
@はいこれはロボ子の婚約者
"Its kind of a niche and esoteric rabbithole" well yes, that's exactly why it's interesting. Even though I have absolutely no application for an SEM at the moment, who knows when all this knowledge might come in handy. Thanks for your great content!
@WhiteDoppler
@WhiteDoppler Год назад
If I had half as much ambition as you do, my dad wouldn't have needed to go get cigarettes
@janctrnacty1215
@janctrnacty1215 Год назад
Great video! As somone working with these diffraction grating replicas, my heart shipped a beat when I saw grid on your finger, then I read note on bottom😆 These samples are so fragile than even high temperature during shipping can destroy them.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Haha yeah, I was reviewing the footage and was like "Hmmm, I should put a disclaimer on this so folks don't have a heart attack 😂". Although unfortunately I did ruin the grating after imaging it, was handling it with a bad set of tweezers and it fell onto a not-super-clean surface, contaminating it pretty heavily 😢The grating is still fine, but the spheres are mixed with random junk now. Lesson learned and bought some dedicated TEM tweezers
@janctrnacty1215
@janctrnacty1215 Год назад
@@BreakingTaps We are using vacuum tweezer to manipulate with all types of grids, but this type is really fragile, so even with vacuum tweezer the film on grid get demaged sometimes, but still better than normal tweezers, which usually deform the grid.
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Год назад
@@janctrnacty1215 Aha, I was wondering what kept the samples in the spaces between the grid. Now there is mention of a FILM, what is it made of and how thin is it and HOW is that film prepared. Why is it called a diffraction grating when it looks like a basic TEM grid????? So much specialised knowledge hiding in just one tiny grid.
@bazoo513
@bazoo513 Год назад
So, let me see if I got this right: - Your setup still scans a focused electron beam through the sample, as opposed to "real" TEM which works more like a, umm, slide projector? - It would be possible, _in principle,_ to collect separate images from backscattered electrons, "primary secondary" (I could not resist) electrons that normally get absorbed by that cup (that would require some quite bulky and unwieldy detector), and "true" secondary electrons from that plate you manufactured, _plus_ chemical composition of the sample via X-ray detector detecting X-ray fluorescence? (Of course, I understand that, in practice, tradeoffs in geometry, ideal beam energy and intensity etc make this impractical if not impossible, but still...) Man, I envy you! 😀
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Correct on both counts! - A traditional TEM uses a large, collimated beam of electrons just like a slide projector, and captures the "shadow image" on the other side. There are scanning TEMs that work similar to how this converted device works, by focusing on the sample and scanning. To be honest I'm not familiar enough with TEM/STEM to really know why you'd choose one vs the other. I think TEM is better for samples like tissue slices, while STEM might be better for nanoparticles/crystals/etc because you can derive additional information based on the angle the electrons are diverted. - Yep! In practice it could be quite tricky getting the photons out of the sample cup, and keeping the two types of secondary electrons from mixing. But in theory totally doable I think! There are also dedicated sensors you can place inside the chamber that go underneath the sample, which means you can collect the electrons directly instead of using the conversion plate. I've also seen schemes that use small electromagnet coils to curve the electrons after they come out the bottom of the sample, so you can "select" different electron energies to analyze. Lots of neat little tricks :)
@bazoo513
@bazoo513 Год назад
@@BreakingTaps Thanks!
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Год назад
As an aside, your electron on the left with the cowlick is adorable.
@jeolman1
@jeolman1 Год назад
I have been a field service engineer working on SEM/FIB and TEM/STEM systems for the past 29 years. Your presentation was a great explanation for those that have no knowledge or a very limited understanding of what these systems do. I have been teaching and training other Field Service engineers, since the late 1990s. I often struggle with explaining it in laymen terms to non professionals, as I tend to get a bit too technical and followers get lost.
@maleeshapriyanjana7604
@maleeshapriyanjana7604 Год назад
as science students we have never got a chance to see an electron microscope in front of eyes at least. thank for your effort to show and explain how they are working
@jonathanlebon9705
@jonathanlebon9705 Год назад
Long video, and I enjoyed every minute of it. You're a good narrator. Clear, concise, and a scientist at heart by the way you speak. Always enjoy hearing what you have to say. For me I really want to see more of all that, it's a whole other world. You should really pull up obscure things under that SEM too. So lucky to get to play around with a tool like that. Can't wait for v2
@ikocheratcr
@ikocheratcr Год назад
Your video are never too long ;) More info and details: yes!
@MrHichammohsen1
@MrHichammohsen1 Год назад
We even need longer videos man! We appreciate it so much.
@smellycat249
@smellycat249 Год назад
I love these videos. They are so different than most things out there and the videos are super entertaining. And since you never swear in the first 15 seconds of your videos, I think you should never have to worry about monitization. Lol.
@bazoo513
@bazoo513 Год назад
Swearing allowed only when a tap breaks 😀
@AdlersAesthetics
@AdlersAesthetics Год назад
You have the best content, keep it up!
@Matt1979321
@Matt1979321 Год назад
"I hesitate to go too much into detail" Dude, that's why we're here! Long live the painful details!
@JohnSmith-kf1fc
@JohnSmith-kf1fc Год назад
You're one of my favorite content creator. Videos are packed with educational value, smoothly narrated and fueling curiosity. Tipping my hat to you sir
@Nobe_Oddy
@Nobe_Oddy Год назад
HELLS YES THIS IS INTERESTING!!!! That EXACTLY why I'm subbed!!! You do some of the COOLEST SHIZZ and it just blows my mind!!! I WISH I had stuck with academics. It's like now that I'm older I just can't learn enough!!! lol THANK YOU for all the amazing stuff you bring to RU-vid and allow anyone and everyone to learn about.... :)
@dirtdart81
@dirtdart81 Год назад
I would watch an hour long video of the rabbit holes you find, please don't worry about their length. Great stuff!
@exvils
@exvils Год назад
19:00 yes its interesting, we had scanning electron microscope in Uni, and also normal microscopes, so i have some practice looking at crystalline layer of metals
@defneozturk
@defneozturk 25 дней назад
I watch this every now and then just to refresh I use a Zeiss Sigma500 FESEM with HDBSD, SE2, and sTEM detector so all of this is great for review. Thank you for your work.
@miles11we
@miles11we Год назад
Always know I'm gonna learn a bit about a subject or process iv never even heard or when there is a new breaking taps video.
@cdburner5911
@cdburner5911 Год назад
I have always been so fascinated by electron microscopes. This is so neat! Once, years ago, I had the chance to acquire an old (70s era) electron microscope from a salvage yard. At the time, I was mostly concerned with, how would I ever get this going, as it was all CRT and really old transistors, but now I am kicking myself for not getting it. Even if it would have been a huge pain to get working, getting one for basically scrap value would have been awesome.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 Год назад
I would have grabbed it if nothing else for the HV and vacuum goodies inside.
@cdburner5911
@cdburner5911 Год назад
@@christopherleubner6633 Indeed. That also would have been a good idea, and more of a reason to kick myself. Lol. After applied science got his olde one working, I was so disappointed in old me. I console myself with that I got some other awesome goodies there, like some lasers I ended up selling on to someone at nasa, which is awesome.
@DD-ze7qm
@DD-ze7qm Год назад
Ouch 🙄
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect Год назад
Where I used to work they were doing CryoEM single particle analysis, which I didn't really/completely understand (I'm ONLY a web developer) so it's always cool to see you doing stuff with TEM, I might understand the images I was displaying in my software someday. ;)
@gracesonaufderheide4743
@gracesonaufderheide4743 Год назад
Super cool! I work with AFM-IR mostly so it is cool to see other non-optical microscopy techniques. Very few channels do similar work! Also, do you take sponsorship opportunities? I think you’d really like playing with what AFM-IR type techniques can do
@krishnajayaswal6051
@krishnajayaswal6051 10 месяцев назад
Electron microscopy is still optical just not visible light but electron waves/particle
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS Год назад
Super cool! Only think I wish I could see if a comparison between the TEM images and what the same thing looked like with the backscatter detector. Although, I have no idea if it's as easy as toggling between detectors. Probably not.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Ahh, that would have been a good idea! Easy to switch, just takes a few seconds. I just didn't think about it because in basically all the samples it is completely black! 🙂 The particles are so small they don't generate much backscatter at all, so end up being an entirely black field. The only exception was the tungsten disulfide... because tungsten is so heavy (and some of the particles were kinda large) they can generate enough signal to be seen on BSE.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS Год назад
@@BreakingTaps That makes sense. :D You did explain the benefits of TEM, but it would be kind of neat to see the advantage over what the SEM can do for the same sample. 🤔 Not a big deal, still a very cool video!
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Год назад
@@BreakingTaps Can (S)TEM view through an already back thinned camera sensor or is the structure still too massive. Just thinking what sort of things can one view that are thin enough, a flies wing perhaps?
@morkovija
@morkovija Год назад
Thats how I very much like to spend my fridays, thank you
@CircsC
@CircsC Год назад
Regarding video length - I'm here for as much as you want to make. It's very interesting and you're good at explaining it.
@23chaos23
@23chaos23 Год назад
do a part 2 with cut content deep dive stuff, first half of this one was an awesome sem/tem/stem explanation. I pretty sure the i'm not the only one that thinks this kind of content should be longer format or at least multi part videos. You are doing amazing stuff, keep it up
@Hexlattice
@Hexlattice Год назад
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" -Arthur C. Clarke
@EricDalgetty
@EricDalgetty Год назад
This was an awesome explanation! We just got a SEM at work, ill have to try this
@CafeBikeGirl
@CafeBikeGirl Год назад
lol, I'm game.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Congrats! What kind did y'all get?
@bowang5390
@bowang5390 Год назад
A really smart way to get aim information from materials, cool
@bcddd214
@bcddd214 Год назад
Thank you the very intriguing 19 + min!
@tysonion01
@tysonion01 Год назад
A scintillator? That's Brilliant. I could really use something like that in my life.
@suspectsn0thing
@suspectsn0thing Год назад
This is (as usual; can't overstate how much I love this channel) a good explanation that answered most of my questions, but I'm confused regarding one thing: early on when you're talking about backscattered electrons you say they don't lose any energy when they swing around the nuclei, but I'd always assumed changing direction usually comes with a change in energy? The two examples that jump two mind are the orbital slingshot/gravity assists you mentioned, which are done explicitly to add large amounts of energy to the craft without having to spend much fuel. The more particle physics-y situation that jumps to mind is synchrotron radiation, which is caused by charged particles shedding energy when their trajectory is changed. Why don't the electrons lose or gain any energy in the telescope's process? Or do they just not lose enough for it to really matter?
@Ferrarimangp
@Ferrarimangp Год назад
12:27 yeet !
@C-M-E
@C-M-E Год назад
Getting true graphene isn't quite at everyday accessibility, but nanoplatelets are, which is more or less what you're seeing on your samples. There's a few more steps involved to get a bit closer, though it's made somewhat more approachable if you start with a non-graphitic source and do the graphitization phase yourself. I've got a week-long process that I'm streamlining with every breakthrough, but have to send my samples to a specialist as I do not (currently) have a TEM-capable microscope. Still trying to decide if it's worth picking up a Raman spectroscope versus waiting on independant results for purity certification.
@trevise684
@trevise684 Год назад
1:25 i cant BELIEVE you didnt even mention something about the scanlines being similar to a crt television
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
🤦‍♀️ Whoops! Trying to think of an analogy and the most obvious one was staring me in the face!
@Novashadow115
@Novashadow115 9 месяцев назад
12:27 I caught that, poor little grate went flying xD
@chrzoc
@chrzoc Год назад
As the sr. Mech/App eng for an aerospace company, I find your youtube name hilarious (: Addon: P.S Glad to see you using CAT40xSFC’s with your 5x for the 3+2 and 4+1/axis substitution micromilling. Good man 👍🏻
@avemt1
@avemt1 Год назад
15:41 Graphite Girl says, "Hi"
@byronwatkins2565
@byronwatkins2565 Год назад
At 8:30, where the electron exits is irrelevant; the video monitor plots the gathered electron current vs. the position of the beam's entrance location. That teardrop receives the charged beam, however, and builds up an equilibrium charge to repel the beam. The charged volume in TEMs is much smaller and deflects the beam much less.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Cheers for the clarification! I definitely muddled that explanation up a bit (as well as not really explaining how TEM and STEM are different).
@UncleBoobs
@UncleBoobs Год назад
whoa, so the electron beam is controlled the same way a Cathode Ray Tube Television controls it. what a trip dude.
@Baleur
@Baleur Год назад
Good video, but the full screen white paper is killing my eyes at 3am.
@liamjoyce22
@liamjoyce22 Год назад
Very cool video, I actually work at Nanoscience instruments where all the service and intakes are done for the XL2s
@tiagotiagot
@tiagotiagot Год назад
Since you're seeing thru samples, would there be a way to rotate the samples in a controlled manner to get multiple images you could use to calculate a volumetric scan of the sample? If it's too hard to control exactly how much you rotate the sample, could you have a grid mask or some other more complicated pattern around the sample that could be used to calculate the rotation each individual scan was taken at?
@hamjudo
@hamjudo Год назад
Alternatively, add a second beam source so you can take stereo images.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
I bet you could! Sorta like a very shallow CT scan :) There'd be a limit to how much you could rotate the sample, since at some point it'll either be too thick, the beam start hitting the grid or other parts of the sample. But in principle it seems like it should work?
@frantisekvaske2144
@frantisekvaske2144 Год назад
The most convoluted way to save 1000 dollars. Luckily you had that CNC :D
@whathappenedattiananmen7484
@whathappenedattiananmen7484 3 месяца назад
maybe the line from the line from the graphite comes from the thing under the sample during the nanoparticle dropping, i know absolutely zero about the thinks u talk about but i really like your channel
@mattlong4102
@mattlong4102 Год назад
nice job diy tem. never would have guessed it was possible
@legoworks-cg5hk
@legoworks-cg5hk Год назад
In simple optical microscope terms: SEM = darkfield or top lit TEM = brightfield
@qihaoliu3631
@qihaoliu3631 Год назад
Now I understand what I'm doing in my labs
@triggerfingerstudios
@triggerfingerstudios Год назад
I'm always surprised how well the reflection method works in the SEM. I helped to invent a new type of reflection holder that used a scintillator and visible light instead. The results were great signal, less noise, higher resolution. It rivaled full sized STEM detectors. It's called the UVD STEM holder, and is only available from Hitachi.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Just looked that up, super cool device! UVD in general looks really neat, need to do some more reading on that, and the STEM variant looks very cool. It makes sense though, you won't get electron cross-contamination from SE off the sample itself, the scintilator I assume provides some amplification and with direct line of sight to the sintilator the photodetector can be optimized to capture all the photons. Neat! I wonder if there's space in my chamber for a photodiode... Cheers for the note, I love seeing ingenious devices like this!
@namibjDerEchte
@namibjDerEchte Год назад
@@BreakingTaps If you can optionally resolve the pattern on the scintillator, you could do holographic scans of the sample. Not sure what beam voltages end up favorable, but a classic analog CCD should be rather resilient to the beta radiation of the beam. Well, I say "holographic"; the actual realtively-easy-seeming (from a mechanical standpoint, at least) would be CBED, where you capture a 2D diffraction pattern for each STEM pixel. Just beware of power density in the sample (CCDs rarely exceed 100 frames per second; this would be the speed at which you could step the STEM beam).
@gsuberland
@gsuberland Год назад
I spent like 10 minutes chuckling at the little electron faces. Check out cool guy on the left with his quiff.
@practicalmicrofabrication1858
Super neat add on for the SEM! Did not know this was a thing.
@randomname4726
@randomname4726 Год назад
Great video, but don't worry that it's too long. I would love longer vids, and I'm sure lots of others would too.
@kareno8634
@kareno8634 Год назад
*HAIL to the 'Adventurer'! 8|}* Great exclamations, for the ability i have to understand. Love Microscopes, tho know nothing-ish, till now. I used my Pentax Digital pocket camera, years ago, at work to take pictures of Mold & Foreign material through Microscope. That 'Foreign material' turned out to be Insects. lol I got in plenty of trouble for it, but Continued. Government does NOT want to be revealed for what they Really are. haha - of course they refused to listen. What a JOY, so worth it! Saw some Awesome critters, to my standards; All tell a Story, *Cheers!*
@timvw01
@timvw01 Год назад
Very cool, love the details, also how you see the imperfections of the wall of the gird.
@stuartmicklethwaite5427
@stuartmicklethwaite5427 Год назад
You could try putting a hole on the plate under the sample and it will give you dark field image. Gold coating it will give better signal as well
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
In the works for version 2! Part of the rambling that got cut at the end was talking about that, the aperture is definitely too large and you can actually see it shift from brightfield to darkfield depending on where you're looking on the sample. Plan to add a little slot accept different size and shape masks/apertures under the sample so that it's easier to test. Noted on gold! Been avoiding buying a sputter target because 💸 but it would be really useful to have in general
@stuartmicklethwaite5427
@stuartmicklethwaite5427 Год назад
You can get away without the aperture if you use a smaller plate underneath and coat everything else in carbon paint. It's easier to change between bf/df/haadf just by changing the plate. If you remove the sleeve on the top and have a small WD you will get better resolution and electons shouldn't get to the detector because the pole piece will get i the way. Thats how we run ours at Leeds uni
@kaltonian
@kaltonian Год назад
fantastic mi well done
@fvoisard
@fvoisard Год назад
you might be able to boost your contrast if you try a dark-field detector, all you would need is a hole in the center of your detector. A simple washer could work, if you could polish and gold-plate it, even better
@mvadu
@mvadu Год назад
Can you please make a followup on the kind of detector you have? How does the point in space where the electron hit the sample is mapped out? 🤔 I. E. How does it map x/y coordinates? Is it a scanning system like CRTs and scanner moves to next spot after either getting the secondary emissions or after a specific timeout?
@AndrewZonenberg
@AndrewZonenberg Год назад
The beam is being scanned across the sample one pixel at a time. Signal from the detector is captured in sync with the beam, so if the beam is at the top left pixel of the scan area then the signal from the detector goes to the top left pixel of the image, etc. The detector itself in a SEM has no spatial selectivity, it picks up any secondary/backscattered electrons heading its way. So you have to know where the beam was. In the old school analog CRT scopes, they'd literally drive the imaging beam and CRT scan coils with the same waveform (scaled appropriately in magnitude) and then the detector signal would go straight into the brightness input of the electron gun.
@mvadu
@mvadu Год назад
@@AndrewZonenberg this makes so much sense Andrew. Thank you..
@Internet-Antics
@Internet-Antics Год назад
Your vids are the best! Pretty soon @AppliedScience will have to send a cease and desist letter or something cause he'll be out of things you haven't done already. I love the way you take high level/highly specialized area of research and equipment and show how accessible that it COULD be. Very cool, keep it up.
@pibus12
@pibus12 Год назад
what a clear explanation, thx for video, but i didnt catch on what surface was graphite laying, if we were cathcing all the electrons passing through the grid, where there is no surface, graphite should have fallen on platinum plate further
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Thanks! And that's my fault, totally glossed over that. The grids I'm using have an ultra-thin layer of Formvar (polyvinyl formal) polymer, think it's 20-50nm thick. It's thin enough to be mostly transparent to electrons, but robust enough to hold things like nanoparticles and flakes. There are a bunch of variations you can order depending on your sample (silicon monoxide layers, silicon nitride, pure carbon, thin metals, etc)
@pibus12
@pibus12 Год назад
@@BreakingTaps that is absolutely amazing, i am curios how a such thin layer of polyvinyl is made
@anullhandle
@anullhandle Год назад
@@pibus12 dissolve it in a solvent and let that coat the grid? The polymer is sold for diy tem lab use.
@lidamullendore6166
@lidamullendore6166 Год назад
Can't wait for part 2!!!
@irkedoff
@irkedoff Год назад
Great video. I like the variety.
@gizelle-s
@gizelle-s Год назад
This was awesome! Thank you
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 Год назад
Parts 2-17 please.
@adfaklsdjf
@adfaklsdjf Год назад
yeah dude i always watch to the end xD
@LandoCalrissiano
@LandoCalrissiano Год назад
I'm okay with longer videos.
@malachilandis9542
@malachilandis9542 Год назад
I feel like I missed an important video somewhere where you all of a sudden have a machine shop... I swear you were working with a CNC router not too long ago, now you are on the sick 5-axis! Congrats
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Hah yeah, it's been slowly accumulating over the years. I basically run a prototype jobshop in the background now, just doesn't show up on the channel much. Hoping to incorporate some more manufacturing stuff in the future though!
@Mwwwwwwwwe
@Mwwwwwwwwe Год назад
Mr Taps 😃the god of science!
@AndrewZonenberg
@AndrewZonenberg Год назад
Is there any way to get diffraction images out of a STEM? When I took electron microscopy of materials back in grad school, a big part of the TEM portion was using diffraction apertures to get spot patterns for looking at crystal structure, or imaging only a certain diffraction pattern so you can e.g. see oriented grains as light and everything else dark.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
I'm not sure to be honest! My gut says that STEM can't generate those nice crystallographic diffraction patterns... but I'm really not sure. Hopefully @AlphaPhoenix or someone equally knowledgeable shows up with some answers :)
@stuartmicklethwaite5427
@stuartmicklethwaite5427 Год назад
Probably not. TEMs have lenses after the sample that asre used to form the image/diffraction pattern.
@namibjDerEchte
@namibjDerEchte Год назад
Well, going by the Xray crystallography experiment we were shown back in high school (AP physics, senior year iirc), it's enough to hit a monocrystalline region with the beam, and record the angular diffraction pattern that comes out. And the transmission that the video uses with the secondary leectron detector should have that angular diffraction pattern from the crystal structure visible, but the single-pixel detector (and lack of focusing optics between the plate and the pixel) can't resolve it.
@Veptis
@Veptis 10 месяцев назад
So we now have multiple different imaging modes. And essentially different signals. Can you map them to RGB or other color challenge to display some of the difference between them as a color coded image? Sure there isn't any chromatic order, but there is plenty of ways to map 3 channel (or more) data to color (RGB, YUV, HSV, ...) I have seen people color TEM images with additional information like from an XRF probe
@TT-lf5hi
@TT-lf5hi Год назад
Time is not really an issue as long as the material is not too heavy, don't leave details that are you think are interesting for the sake of video time. I don't think that engineering/science videos correlate a lot with normal entertainment videos on RU-vid, for example shorts. The audience is completely different.
@dengyun846
@dengyun846 Месяц назад
Ugh, time to buy a 20-year-old SEM and lie to my wife saying it's another antique supercomputer.
@lalitasharma6687
@lalitasharma6687 Год назад
I have a question sir My knowledge of stem is next to zero so it's a kinda stupid question. I read in quantum chemistry course that STEM works on tunning current where the beam is going up and down just like tip of a pen an then it create image of sample using that like change in tunneling current Please help me out with this question thanks 😊
@BooooClips
@BooooClips Год назад
The yeet 😂
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Was hoping someone would see it 😁
@andymouse
@andymouse Год назад
Awesome ! would like to see more, if I still had access to a microscope I would be talking to the peep's in the machine shop right now !...cheers and Have a Great New year !
@luclachapelle3499
@luclachapelle3499 Год назад
Super, keep-on
@RobertElderSoftware
@RobertElderSoftware Год назад
If you don't mind mentioning numbers, what's the approximate $ investment required to get to a point where you can make images likes the ones that you see in this video? I would imagine there is also a huge amount of setup and calibration to get everything working just right. Is it feasible to buy a hodgepodge of parts (scintillators, optics, etc.) off of eBay and connect them together, or do you have to buy into a specific proprietary ecosystem to have a hope of getting it working?
@electricalychalanged4911
@electricalychalanged4911 Год назад
About 200k
@electricalychalanged4911
@electricalychalanged4911 Год назад
That is for a new SEM if you want to have an used system you might be able to get it for half or less especially if you know what you are doing and already have the required pumps.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Yeah so my system is 60k-150k new, depending on the model and company. It's a "desktop SEM", so designed for less rigorous analysis than a big academic floor-standing model. They also don't show up on the used market very often because they are relatively niche. New floor standing models are probably what @electricalychalanged4911 said, 100-200k or higher. But you can find old analog SEMs for pretty darn cheap these days! 2-10k, depending on location and condition. They still take great images, just often are purely analog and are being sold by universities as they upgrade. Might need to tinker with them or debug analog electronics though, and parts are probably more difficult to find (but also, easier to replace since old analog stuff, often come with complete schematics, etc) Building one from scratch is probably quite a feat, although Ben at Applied Science did it :) The old analog ones are pretty amenable to tinkering though. Usually standard fittings (ISO flanges) so you can plug/play a lot of different things
@RobertElderSoftware
@RobertElderSoftware Год назад
@@BreakingTaps Awesome, thanks for the detailed reply :) A used one for 2-10k sounds tempting. I guess it would be a bit of a gamble though. If you get unlucky, I suppose you might end up spending enough time/money 'fixing' it that it would be 'cheaper' to have just bought the desktop one. Great stuff, keep it up.
@hamjudo
@hamjudo Год назад
While he was a high school student, Sam Zeloof bought a broken electron microscope off of eBay, and fixed it. So we have an existence proof that it was possible for at least one person to get their own working electron microscope with very little financial resources. Just a thousand hours of work. He has posted videos on RU-vid about his microscope.
@russtuff
@russtuff Год назад
Very cool.
@Chris-bg8mk
@Chris-bg8mk Год назад
No taps were harmed in the making of this feature.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
(yet)
@Anar10n
@Anar10n Год назад
Wow man makes clever piping for electrons. Awesome. I know it's probably dumb but could you make and observe positron-electron collision in your magical mystery box? No idea how hard is it to find some positron emitting stuff though
@DavidKennyNZL
@DavidKennyNZL Год назад
Thanks
@joaquins90
@joaquins90 Год назад
That's great!! What other cool gadgets you could add to the SEM to add to your toolbox??
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
There's a neat little mechanism that adds a magnet under the sample, been wanting to try that. It creates an "immersion lens" which boosts the resolution due to better channeling of electrons. Also lots of neat sensors/detectors, but those might be beyond my skills :)
@alexanderzintler
@alexanderzintler Год назад
You are probably recording new data already and I presume you are changing this parameter as well, but what is the minimum working distance of this microscope? With a shorter sleeve you might be working at the optimum WD for highest resolution. Also the grid you were using probably had a thin polymer foil on it already to support the particles. Holey or lacey carbon grids might be worth a shot. (And yes, I work in EM). As others said, I really like the longer format and the animations you showed!
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
You're correct, I switched to a shorter sleeve and it definitely helped! Not entirely sure the minimum working distance to be honest, my machine is a Phenom and they try hard to idiot-proof the machine (the stage won't let you insert a sample that is too tall, so it's not possible to hit the pole piece). I think the working distance is 1-3mm though, something in that range. Also correct on grids! Mine were formvar stabilized with carbon. I'll pick up some lacey carbon and give it a shot! To be honest I was a little overwhelmed choosing grids, so many different varieties. So I just grabbed what seemed like the "simple" or "default" choice based on ted pella descriptions :) Appreciate the tips!
@alexanderzintler
@alexanderzintler Год назад
@@BreakingTaps its interesting to learn about these simpler Seams and how they are made for a broader user base. Thanks for the explanation! And yeah, there are grids in every shape and "coating" available, the ones you had are actually also very good for the experiment you showed. Thank you for doing these videos, these are the ones I show to my less sciency friends to explain what I'm doing 😅
@alexanderzintler
@alexanderzintler Год назад
@@BreakingTaps I just pick this up here again: I recently learned that there is an open source and low cost option for transmitted electron detection in an SEM (BSE as well). doi: 10.1016/j.ohx.2023.e00413 The only thing your SEM would need is electrical feedthroughs 😬As there are not a lot of things open source or low cost in EM, I thought I'll leave this here.
@wolfy9005
@wolfy9005 Год назад
Comment for the algo, keep it up! Also join the discord people
@lumotroph
@lumotroph Год назад
Brilliant to watch! Would love to do something like this one day. Do you have a video about how you came to get into these hobbies / this career? How come you have a machine shop and SEM? (Jealous). Greetings from Johannesburg ZA
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Thanks! No backstory video, although I'll probably do a shop tour at some point. I do prototype machining, microfab and microscopy analysis, so the SEM and CNC equipment support that side of the business but I get to play around with them to make videos when idle :)
@lumotroph
@lumotroph Год назад
@@BreakingTaps that’s super cool. I’d love to get into prototype design / manufacturing! Dan Gelbart style
@rezganger
@rezganger Год назад
i wonder if the original designer was afraid that someone,one day,would be able to do both with only one scope!
@older-wiser-better
@older-wiser-better Год назад
Super cool video ❤
@tiagotiagot
@tiagotiagot Год назад
With the original arrangement, can you clock the time between the electron being emitted and being detected to separate the detection on the secondary detector and produce multiple "layers" based on how much the electrons bounced before coming out and hitting the detector? Or if you can't detect when the electrons get emitted, would it be possible to use the beam deflection as a sort of shutter, timing based on when you switch the aim from a dump direction to a direction that does hit the sample, getting an statistical sample over many shots to estimate the bounce time for each individual deflection angle?
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
I'm not sure, maybe! Grain of salt, I'm garbage at EE so not entirely sure what's possible or not. I have seen some devices that use an electromagnet to alter the flight path of electrons after they pass through the sample. By varying the strength of the field, you can curve the electrons more or less depending on their energy, basically "filtering" them (if an electron has multiple collisions passing through a sample it'll have a lower energy, etc). You might be able do it in reverse too and vary the accelerating voltage to see how much is required to get through the sample and estimate from that? Probably a way to do high speed capture of electrons though, not sure. The scintilator might be the limiting factor in terms of speed?
@pkillor
@pkillor 4 месяца назад
Try to make Laser Induced Graphene (LIG) and Flash Graphene like RICE University
@gameofpj3286
@gameofpj3286 Год назад
This is really cool
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 Год назад
Damn! Why don't I have toys like this?
@seeigecannon
@seeigecannon Год назад
Great video. You might want to double check the 3D printed part though as it would have a ton of surface area and voids to offgas. I would think the material itself may also be gas permiable which may screw up the vacuum in the area.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps Год назад
Thanks! I've run small printed parts in my machine a few times, tends to work out ok as long as you're careful with the design (no huge interior volumes, dense infill, etc). But mainly because my SEM operates at a pretty low vacuum in the main chamber, just 100mbar. Compared to larger floor-standing machines it's practically atmospheric. So it's very tolerant of outgassing and otherwise dirty samples :)
@seeigecannon
@seeigecannon Год назад
@@BreakingTaps oh wow, that is high pressure. I have a vacuum oven I have been playing around with at home (installed an ISO100 flange with a 3" pipe on it). That bottoms out at 0.0mTorr, but that is just because that is how low my convection vacuum gauge reads.
@nickploum9681
@nickploum9681 Год назад
@@BreakingTaps The sample chamber is definitely not 100mbar. It would be in the range of 0.1Pa-60Pa, as the UI also says. (0.001mbar-0.60mbar). Outgassing is definitely something you want to keep in mind!
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