Coop how you gonna tell us to guess the price when you told us in the title? Bruh. /s As someone using the crappy bar that comes with the CAP 300 lb weight set from Walmart, I'd never buy a bar this expensive but I'll still watch these reviews because it's fun to learn about different equipment either way
Apparently, Eleiko don’t recommend this for home use, since it is “unchromed” in compliance with the IPF rules and therefore oxidates faster. Their cheaper performance bar is coated and therefore more resilient to rust. So there is a reason for them not coating the bar.
@@carlosacarter my lonely Eleiko is my oly bar is chromed ( certified iwf ) and its lifetime warranty too...... my 29mmis is a french Pallini black coated ipf certified sell 30% cheaper than Eleiko
Il have for bench an over 30 yo old UDDEHOLM ,,,,....alll chrome is off since long time, , a pure bare steel....and its not rusted . You can buy it for home. Its a freat steel.
Its paradoxal but At home its more smart place for CERTIFIED gear....for insurance in case of snap bar and injuries..... a certified bar lifetime warranty is a protection
@@scottf3456 not really. I could buy the eleiko bar + 750lbs (435kg) package in about 3 months of paycheques (£6000) but i already got weight set 540lbs (235kg) you people just dont go to work or know how to save money. You're the problem, not the price. You get what you pay for in life.
@Ivan The difference is that the overpriced Eleiko won't even marginally improve your lifting like a custom racket would improve a pro's tennis. A $1000 bottle of bourbon won't taste much better than a $500 one, if at all. Other than specialty bars that no one else has replicated yet, the barbell has been refined to excellence at a much lower price point than this. Even the core material of the bar can't be considered premium, the fact that at this price it rusts so fast and has that corny sticker is inexcusable.
@Pork Lord 300 dollor barbell a 200 dollor rack and 500 lbs worth of plate weight for 400 bucks (before quarantine) and the other 400bwent towards benches and plate storage and other miscellaneous things
@@GarageGymReviews Yeah, to pay that much money for a barbell with a sticker just ain’t right. My Ironwolfes have “Ironwolfe USA” engraved on them, very slick!
@4:24 The stiffness of a bar is measured by the diameter (which is the same 29mm) and the modulus of elasticity, not the tensile strength or the rockwell hardness.
Yup so many reviewers get this wrong! The modulus of elasticity is also nearly identical for all steel. The only bar specs that matter for stiffness is diameter of the shaft and the distance between the weights.
I absolutely love the 20KG stainless steel variant of the ohio power bar. has the super thin collars like the Eleiko and a really well balanced knurling. also great that it costs like 1/3 of the Eleiko
I have the bar in the video and the ohio power bar and I marginally prefer the Eleiko feel in my hands, but the ohio is near to just as good in every aspect.
I think people are looking at this bar more as gear enthusiasts/home gym owners, when the reality is that it's marketed for environments where IPF competitions will be taking place. So basically, not your garage. This is like the Rolls-Royce of powerlifting bars, and carries a certain swag, if you own one. Is it overly expensive?...probably. Do you need it?...no. However there will be certain individuals who want to train on the equipment they'll be using in competition as closely as possible and for them, it's probably worth the investment.
Thumbs up for the very straight forward and honest review. Seems like an excellent product but no point in beating around the bush about it being overpriced.
Used the Eleiko in many comps and they are fantastic. I own and train with an Ohio and that too is fantastic. 100% agree with your review. Oddly enough the Ohio ships from Scandinavia if in Europe (I am in the UK).
A straight to the point review and Coop you are 100% on point - man. I look at my Elieko comp bar and it rusts before my eyes. My daily driver is the rogue OPB and I am fortunate enough to own all 3 you reviewed today. The Eleiko and Kabuki are great but the OPB especially in Stainless steel is just too much value for the others to live with for the majority of people.
Man... I LOVE your channel but I think you missed the mark on this review. Please allow me to explain: 1. Eleiko bars are assembled by hand. 2. Eleiko bars have to be -10g/+20g within stated weight to pass inspection. 3. They use proprietary graphite bushing inserts. 4. Their website lists the bar as having a lifetime warranty. 5. They are dust proof and require no user maintenance on the sleeve interiors ever. 6. The sleeve collars being slim are intentional and help with heavy weight distribution over the bars you compared it too. 7. Buying one allows USAPL athletes to train on the same bar that they compete with which I love as a competitor. 8. Etc, etc. Eleiko is WILDLY expensive and overkill for 99.99% of people but come on man... It is IPF approved and used at world championship competitions for a reason. It’s the gold standard (only drawback being bare metal shaft - but some competitors actually prefer that feel over SS). All due respect intended here truthfully, but maybe you are making assessments beyond your skillset on this one... This is a high caliber bar for high caliber strength athletes. It’s used at World’s for a reason. Just my two cents.
I get you being upset, but if i have to put my money on the bar from a consumer view run of the mill weighligter, at 1100 USD it could be nicer cooming from the OG of weigtlifting, definetly not the bar for people looking to upgrade
Not overpriced if you compete with it. Super specific and not everyone needs to practice with it if you compete with it, but it does help with being familiar with one. Also it is just a high high high quality bar.
I grew up in the 1970s, seeing that Eleiko name right next to Vasily Alexeev's head when he'd snatch those big weights. Then and now, way out of my price range but kind of magical. Fun to see this.
The best part of the video..."The sticker, come on, this is the best thing you can do? I know that IPF wants a label on their bars. However, a sticker, on a $1000 bar. Get rid of the freakin sticker!" HAHAHA
One of the best barbell on a planet. I'm just a guy who love lifting weight, nothing more. Tried both because "there's nothing better". Sold both and buy the bar i love the most again, Texas Power Bar. Everyone has different feeling, nothing wrong with that! Aside from that this bar is something you can consider yourself lucky to have money to buy. Just my opinion.
3:32 Coop if you look up the Hookesches law you can see that every steel bar with the same diameter and lenght bends the same (Elastic bend, not plastic which is always the case unless you permanently bend the bar), because of the general E-Modul of Steel beeing 210000 N/mm² So it doesnt matter which typ of steel is used or its tensile strengt. Just lenght and diameter matter.
@@stevehoran6132 There can be differences in the E-Module of steel due to alloy components and manufacturing processes. But they are typically very minor and also they do not correlate to the tensile strength. Generally you just assume steel to have an E-Module of 210000 N/mm² because most manufacturers wont give you date for the E-Module
With the exception of a rower and a spin bike, I pretty much own everything I want for my home gym. I just watch these videos for the entertainment. Keep it up Coop!
In europe Rogue vs Eleiko isn't the same price as is in USA, rogue being more expensive than in USA and eleiko being cheaper than in USA.... So its not that expensive in comparison...
Here in Norway i get 40% discount on eleiko from the import company, because they give it to all powerlifters that ask. Even with that difference, Rogue is about half the price.
@@PronatorsaurusTricepsus in my country about double the price for eleiko weightlifting bar compared to rogue ohio bar. But that is not accurate comparison due to the quality of the bars.
@@ivandelac764 powerbar vs powerbar i find the rogue to be just as good as eleiko. In olympic weightlifting I have only tried eleiko bars and not rogue.
Don't underestimate rockwell hardness for bare steel bars. Harder steel will be more resilient to wire brush scrubbing, meaning the knurling will stay intact throughout rust busting and general cleaning over the years.
Rogue Fitness Ohio Power bar BARE STEEL is the best bar for most people. In terms of quality and price, the Ohio Power bar is in a clss of its own. Most people can OWN the OHP, Most people cant afford an Eleiko bar. Most people will #love the #roguefitness #ohiopowerbar
I have this Eleiko power bar. I did buy it used last spring. I don't use chalk and like that the grip does not give. You just have to want an Eleiko. They are rated to hold like 3300 lbs before losing straight.
So...basically, the bar is too expensive (as you’ve explicitly stated), even though, Eleiko as a rather long history of quality bars, which is (and as being) tested throughout many competitions (i.e. Olympics, IPF meets, IWF world weightlifting championships and so on) throughout the world, unlike, many of the company’s direct market competitors (including Rogue, Kabuki etc). From what I can gather, the bar’s target market isn’t for mere ‘gym enthusiasts’, but rather niche competitive strength athletes, whom prefers an high degree of ‘specificity’ (which you’ve slightly touched upon). Also, as you are aware, bare steel is primarily utilised because it (or should) provide superior grip to any such alternatives - during competition. I am also certain Eleiko does indeed provide lifetime warranty for the IPF bar. It’s seemingly quite purposeful to find unwarranted faults that can be easily explained to the general public - quite disingenuous, to say the least. 8:03 of a video to repetitively bleat about the cost. My gosh! Anyway, hopefully, the bar can be impartially compared alongside (or versus) Ivanko, Leoko, Pallini, Uesaka and Zaoba Bull powerlifting competition bars (largely focusing on performance of the equipment/s), in the near future.
@@Brennaneggers No, you are absolutely correct. Considering I won't be lifting over 500lbs, I don't need a great bar. If I can do cleans, bench, squat, I'm good. The bars are easily replaceable since they cost 1/4 the price.
@@ShaneTumminello I've owned both and there's no comparison in feel between the two. OPB is sharp but not grippy, Eleiko is grippy but not sharp. Liked my OPB, love my Eleiko Performance Powerlifting Bar. YMMV.
IPF competition bars have to be bare steel. It's in the IPF rules. Eleiko doesn't recommend the competition bar for home use. They have a chrome version for home use. Edit reason: typo
That’s what he didn’t get and therefore missed to say. Got my used but like new Eleiko PL competition for 725€. Rogue OPB is not available and costs about 600€ (SS Version) at the moment. I think I can deal with some rust and use a brush.
I am swedish and have been lifting for 2 years. So for a swedish lifter this bar is very common in the gyms here in sweden and let me tell you this bar is pure perfection. we have many other bars at my gym but eleiko pure satisfaction.
Coop [Put's price in the video title] Also Coop: "Guess how much this bar costs" Love my Eleiko WL bar. Got it second hand though for $1,100 with a set of bumpers that included some IWF Certified Eleiko bumpers rounded out with VTK plates. That being said I do have a client that like to drop heavy lifts with low quality steel plates on it so I might move it back home till he learns some control or gets better plates (leave it at his garage gym).
You can NOT judge stiffness of steels by their tensile strength. Mechanical stiffness is determined by geometry (which we asume is the same here) and the modulus of steel. The modulus does not change with normal steel even though the tensile strength of a given steel variant might be twice as high. Best regards A german engineer that does not work in the field and might got that wrong ;)
Coop, i have to correct you there but Eleiko offers on all their Competition Bars, which includes the IPF Powerlifting Competition Bar in your review, a Lifetime Warranty.....the Training and Performance Bars have a 12 year Warranty, and some other bars have a 5 or even a 2 year warranty. The other bars have a chrome surface, which are more for performance and training, where the bars get a good beating.....The Raw Steel however is made for competitions where you make just a few lifts and you get it only on the power bar......i get your point, but that bar is like a supercar, you should take care of it.....which a lot of equipment doens't get much care in a garage gym......so, a performance bar would make more sense in a garage gym.
You should get your hands on the isellfitness Lift Evil Chaos power bar. It's an amazing power bar at 29mm shaft and 210000 psi tensile strength and $300. Can't beat that.
Don’t want to be a know it all, but, not a lot of people know that stiffness is not related to tensile strength, it’s related to Young’s Modulus, this is fairly consistent for steel regardless of strength. It is proportional to diameter as you rightly point out. Tensile strength tells you at what point the bar will bend(yield), permanently.
It's not really bare steel like those cheaper bare steel bars. It apparently has chrome mixed into the steel, but not enough to be stainless steel. It also rusts much slower than a real bare steel bar. The knurling is not the same as the weightlifting bar, as it's much bigger and aggressive.
I own this bar, i definitely dont need it but i got it on a fairly big discount. It is very very good. The knurling is incredible but you do have to keep on top of the rust, by keeping it a climate controlled environment and using 3 in 1 oil. But it is amazing to use, especially for deadlifts
Im not sure if you can use tensile strenght as measurement for stifness. Tensile strenght tells you how much pressure something can take bufore it breaks, not how stiff its gonna be before that break. What youre looking for is youngs modulus which tells you how much force is needed to deform something in elastic region.
In reality if you have some connects within the swedish PL community, you can get these bars for like half the price. Some gyms in Sweden, for example Gymmet, actually have a couple of these bars in every facility, and even the smallest PL clubs usually have one or two for competition as well as calibrated weights and combo racks. It's rare to see something other than eleiko
the bar can hold up to like 1500kg and well its much better quality I think that rogue barbells feel like they are going to break at any moment and they just feel more like a toy haha well the texas deadlift bar (the real one not rogue) costs like 1000 euro so its also expensive but that barebell feels pretty solid but not as solid as eleiko barebells in my opinion. I think that rogue feels and is budget equipment tbh.
I feel like you totally forgot to take into account the purpose of this product. This bar is basically for competition only, and really should be owned by IPF meet directors. If you want to train at the highest level of powerlifting, the Performance Powerlifting Bar is made to last. But even then, unless you are at the top 1% of powerlifters in the IPF, it's probably superfluous to your performance.
"Eleiko IPF Powerlifting Competition Bar". Designed for Competition. If you want one with a coating and more suitable for training use, the correct bar to get is the slightly less expensive Eleiko Performance Powerlifting Bar. Eleiko is expensive, that's true, but some of your criticisms are unwarranted. It's not Eleiko's fault you bought an apple expecting an orange.
Coop I bought Eleiko trainingbar and I love it. it is the best and better then rogue powerbar wich I also bought. Rogue came in with so much rust, stains it really looks teribble. I love the knurling of the eleiko . Don like Rogue so much meaby I am the olnly one in the world :)
@@worlds_okayest_crossfitter And for people who want to know what it is without doing Google images and having nightmare fuel: Just imagine if the skin on your hands are a pair of gloves. :(
@fotis BoOya or just don't wear your wedding ring when working out or working around potentially dangerous situations. For me, this seems like a pretty silly reason to not get married (I've seen far better) but that's also because my wife is bad af. I guess if you marry the wrong person little things like this could make you reconsider. I couldn't imagine my life w/o my wife but that's just me. I wish everyone could be so lucky.
I'm sitting here with my Rep Fitness PB EX Deep Knurl wondering why you'd overspend for an OPB, let alone an Eleiko (for the record, I have used Eleiko Weightlifting bars and if I practiced those movements, I'd probably spend a grand to get one. They're that good).
The raw steel is because powerlifters like it. If you want chromed, choose the Performance Powerlifting bar from Eleiko, which is also a bit cheeper, but has a 12 year warranty instead of lifetime.
@@FitnessNews24 Porsche 928 is pretty hot on the used market. I was talking about comparing rogue (with their crap black oxide wear off coating) to a much better bar.
@ Garage Gym Reviwes, Really need to do a comparison with an ivanko power bar.. or even a review of an ivanko power bar! Please consider this coop! Thanks for the info and ideas you share, always appreciated!
Coop. The reason why it’s a bare Steel Bar - is because it’s a demand by the ipf competition rools. You Can get the exact same bar cheaper with a Chrome shaft an sleeves all the way. The only difference is the coating and ipf approved use
In my opinion, better comparable bars might be an Uesaka Powerlifting bar or an Ivanko OBXS power bar due to the amount of QC (Ivanko's is insane. Mag, Ultra-sonic and X-ray testing? Yikes) and the establishment of their brand, as Eleiko, Uesaka and Ivanko are the Grand Dames of the international powerlifting community, so to speak. But still, a fantastic review as always!
I feel like the Eleiko is whippy af as soon as you cross the 600lbs/272.5kg mark and the ohio powerbar doesn't feel as much whippy as the Eleiko, if it helps!
My garage gym is literally a barbell and bumpers and some rubber mats on the floor, I believe if you can manipulate a barbell you can gain an infinite amount of strength with it alone. You want cardio/endurance go take a hike but people saying its to expensive when no one is holding a gun to your head telling you to buy this bar
Surprised you didn't compare to the IPF certified 20kg rogue Ohio Power Bar. It has a more aggressive knurl, thin shoulders on the collars and is the direct competitor.
Can't speak for the Elieko but I love my 20kg OPB. It's my daily driver. The exception is for overhead press and front squat. I use my Ohio Bar because I'm not real interested in rashing my neck with the center knurling.
Haha, using Eleiko's bars does make sense if you a professional weightlifter. Uesaka and Eleiko are extremely good in weightlifting bars, but these bars are very overpriced. Chinese ZKC or DHS are doing the same quality weightlifting bars but prices are much more affordable. The same is with Turkish IWF certified producer, WERKSAN: excellent weightlifting bars and plates for affordable prices.
Yeah, I'm not sure why you would look past a Rogue Ohio Power Bar, REP Fitness Stainless Power Bar, or something similar. What is the Eleiko bringing to the table that the other bars aren't?
It's WLL (working load limit) is 1500kg. KG, not lbs. Even a 1500lbs bar (680kg) is more than enough for all levels of lifting. So it must be super-hardened
Ive got the Eleiko, Kabuki, and the Ohio power bar. Absolutely no comparison inn fit and finish. Coop, the Eleiko HAS a lifetime warranty. Definitely a luxury to have but the knurling and specs are just spot on with the Eleiko.
This must have changed recently, because I'm almost positive it was 12 years when I made this video. However, for most garage gym owners, it would be negated because few are using 30MM flooring, which is a requirement for the warranty.
Could you make a tutorial on how to get rid off the rust on exactly this barbell? I have a 1985 eleiko wl bar with the same rust spots and can't handle them at all...
I live in Chile (third world country) and this bar cost $1,770 USD without shipping I think it's make no sense to buy a bar like this. Is a whim in my opinion, also is bare steel, so you need to be extremly careful to avoid oxide. The bar is for competition purpose to have a better grip, the training one is much better because its have chorme surface.
