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Elenda, the Dusk Rose Deck Tech | Commander Tune-Ups #58 

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Elenda the Dusk Rose is real good... here's our take on it!
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@gravetitan1321
@gravetitan1321 3 года назад
13:16 Fighting a bauble is beneath me... I'll let my zombie minions take care of that.
@22zombie22
@22zombie22 3 года назад
Brains...
@22zombie22
@22zombie22 3 года назад
Uuurr...
@daddio89
@daddio89 3 года назад
that'd be a grave mistake
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
The NN Comments Universe is starting to rival the MCU
@dif4797
@dif4797 3 года назад
@@NitpickingNerds Starting to rival? We already won
@emrakulofficialaccount5960
@emrakulofficialaccount5960 3 года назад
Woah thanks for the shout out guys!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
No problem, emrakul
@WayfarersBauble
@WayfarersBauble 3 года назад
13:16 ^_^
@22zombie22
@22zombie22 3 года назад
Uuurr...
@22zombie22
@22zombie22 3 года назад
Ruuhhh....
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
Fight! Fight! Fight!
@SMISURKA
@SMISURKA 3 года назад
My favorite card right now is The Ozolith. That card would make this deck so insane!
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
It does
@danblades16
@danblades16 2 года назад
Dude. Yes. Totally nutzo.
@TravisLastNameUnknown
@TravisLastNameUnknown 3 года назад
I Think "Gift Of Immortality" is great here, decent protection for your commander. If you have a sac outlet you're at a minimum getting a 1/1 each players end step.
@PigeonSmythe
@PigeonSmythe 3 года назад
Definitely the surprise omission in my opinion. Good tune up though.
@eternalanri9251
@eternalanri9251 3 года назад
I usually never struggle to make my deck higher power, but I always enjoy watching people make decks better through means that aren't making the land base more consistent or adding stuff like mana vault and crypt
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
Yeah just add mana crypt to 99.9% of all decks and they'll be better, not the most useful advice 😂
@IncrediPaulAZ
@IncrediPaulAZ 3 года назад
I was planning on this being my next commander already, so this video came out with perfect timing! Thanks guys!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
Wow that is a nice coincidence!
@obadijahparks
@obadijahparks 3 года назад
I just made a deck with her. When I bought her, the guy at the store was like... are you sure she is worth it?... I'm like.. JUST SELL HER TO ME! she will be great once they make the right set. Well guess what? They did.
@IncrediPaulAZ
@IncrediPaulAZ 3 года назад
@@NitpickingNerds I just played a draft of this deck yesterday and it was great! Waiting on a few upgrades I ordered, but I found a couple awesome replacements in the meantime. Massacre girl is a sweet one-sided boardwipe that keeps elenda on the board if she has 1 counter to begin with. Divine visitation was also awesome and nightmare shepherd and reassembling skeleton did some work. Totally loving the deck!
@modernphilosophicaldiscour3558
@modernphilosophicaldiscour3558 3 года назад
This is my favorite series you guys do. It helps me analyze my own personal decks and upgrade them. I struggle pushing the power level of my decks.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
We like to get into the trenches and actually upgrade real life decks, this series might not be our most popular but I think it's super useful
@elipetrou9308
@elipetrou9308 3 года назад
@@NitpickingNerds yeah this is one of my favourite series you guys do
@vaporeonlvl1009
@vaporeonlvl1009 3 года назад
I absolutely love this series, please dont stop it
@pixelatedsilva
@pixelatedsilva 3 года назад
I may have missed it, but Animation Module with Elenda and Ashnod's Altar makes infinite sac triggers, colorless mana, and +1/+1 counters for Elenda, which can turn into infinite tokens if you want.
@z4t3k21
@z4t3k21 3 года назад
Yea I use this same combo in my Grismold Deck.. no one ever sees it coming first time.
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
Wow 😎
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
Thanks I hadn't seen that. Its cool because it goes infinite with phyrexian alter too, but less so. Mostly cool because its just a super synergistic card without them. I got to get one thanks.
@Dubi264
@Dubi264 3 года назад
My favorite finds for this deck were Lifeline and Tombstone Stairwell. Getting Elenda back every player's turn and forcing dozens of deaths per turn cycle can get out of hand almost immediately.
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
Life line is one of my personal favorites in the deck, gift of Immortality can have similar results. Both should synergies well with other parts of the deck too. You go a round the table sacrificing solumn simulacrum every turn your going to be in a good position.
@keiharris332
@keiharris332 Год назад
Tombstone stairwell is so dang cool. Just fill up the graveyard and have fun combing on every players turn. Throw in corpse knight for the finishing touch!
@nicholasstevens763
@nicholasstevens763 3 года назад
I’ve been waiting for this commander to get a good deck tech after the rules change!!!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
Hopefully this fulfilled that!
@nobodyfromnowwhere7510
@nobodyfromnowwhere7510 3 года назад
Righteousness is a fun card to play with Elenda.
@ben_clifford
@ben_clifford 3 года назад
23:55 That is me! Thanks Beezy!
@eierpunsch5158
@eierpunsch5158 3 года назад
Already own a Elenda deck and now i have some inspiration for some improvments and upgrades. Thanks for that !!
@santiagodominguez3009
@santiagodominguez3009 4 месяца назад
Another great removal spell is Astarion's Thirst in this deck anything to beef up that commander! Also, I love killing elenda but do not like commander tax campfire and netherborn alter helps. My favorite combo is elenda and blade of selves it has a myriad effect but you have to sac due to the legendary rule but it triggers so much on your side!
@colinh5299
@colinh5299 3 года назад
I've been tinkering with an Elenda deck for a few months and had fun seeing you guys come to the same conclusions I did, ha! I chose to lean into Vampire synergies, but would also suggest: Blade of the Bloodchief, Mirror Entity/Coat of Arms, Teysa Karlov, and Together Forever. They all get pretty wild!
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
Did you throw bloodwitch of malkyre in?
@avilcan
@avilcan 3 года назад
Love these tuneups
@jacktupp4358
@jacktupp4358 3 года назад
Love Elenda, the deck is so much fun!
@timtauber5557
@timtauber5557 3 года назад
Grave titan auto include makes zombie tokens all day, omg so good :)
@Let-Me-Cook69
@Let-Me-Cook69 3 года назад
I started playing at Ixalan she was my first Mythic pull and costed about like 5 bucks at the time. I been tuning her up ever since. I know it's not smart but I run exile removal. People get mad at me saying I'm not building right and i say "you mad your creature didn't hit the grave" lol
@geekmp3
@geekmp3 3 года назад
omg I want to take this deck and put Nethroi as the commander now... Such a great tune-up!
@thecitizen6860
@thecitizen6860 2 года назад
I just pulled her from the list. So im intrigued
@timtauber5557
@timtauber5557 3 года назад
Nice decklist, I was joking about the grave titan. I sometimes play casual edh and this would be a deck I would enjoy playing in that sort of pod. Great review, you did not mention teferi’s protection perhaps it was too costly. I would add it.
@theoakgrovesquirrel3002
@theoakgrovesquirrel3002 3 года назад
I have a dumb mono white combo that when someone swings for lethal I flash in selfless squire. On my turn I swing with it and entrapment maneuver on my giant selfless squire
@Interrobang212
@Interrobang212 3 года назад
I'm in the middle of building a Teysa deck, and wracking my brain trying to maximize it. This is extremely useful to me.
@elipetrou9308
@elipetrou9308 3 года назад
Awesome, I was planning on building her or teysa, both very cool decks that work well with each other.
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
When teysa came out I deconstructed elenda an put teysa at the helm. Its a fun deck but after about 2 months I switched back. I find elenda more fun. I won last week by distributing 2700ish damage. Timmy likey. And did it by assembling blade of the blood chief, teysa, dark privilege, gift of Immortality, Johnny likey too.
@meyeneetuks4680
@meyeneetuks4680 2 года назад
@@gregorymurphey2115 who the hell is timmy and who the hell is johnny?
@thesenate918
@thesenate918 3 года назад
Heraldic banner finally getting some love!
@notcreative8325
@notcreative8325 Год назад
19:05 Anointed Procession and Pitiless Plunderer
@meatrace
@meatrace 3 года назад
So for splitting your basics and making some snow, I've found that having just one snow of each type is optimal IF you have the critical mass of fetches. Your fetch just becomes whichever you need. If you can't afford all the fetches then yeah 50/50 is better.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
But you have to factor in natural draws so 50/50 is the best way to go
@Jonzin4BeatzNYC
@Jonzin4BeatzNYC 3 года назад
I have an Edgar Markov deck that has evolved into an aristocratic deck centered around the dusk 🌹. Red gives me access to impact tremors, Purphoros, and goblin bombardment.
@kylesavage4525
@kylesavage4525 3 года назад
One of my most beloved commanders ever. I originally built the deck however back when her ability wouldn't trigger if u chose to put her in the command zone instead of gy because i thought it was cool to have this sort of restriction that i had to build around by including several reanimation spells. I was actually kinda disappointed that wotc changed the rules cause i felt that it made the deck strategy too easy but i i guess to each their own.
@markgaudy
@markgaudy 3 года назад
Stinging Study might be a good fit too for card draw :)
@stratochelo
@stratochelo 3 года назад
You missed The Ozolith...that card is just value over and over again in this deck
@Morrodin182
@Morrodin182 3 года назад
Yeah The Ozolith is pretty bonkers in any +1/+1 counter heavy deck. Its insane it only costs 1 colorless
@BornFromEmbers
@BornFromEmbers 3 года назад
Elenda is expensive now. My friends gave me a foil one for my Edgar deck and at the time it was like $13 foil. Then they changed the commander death rule and it now it’s like $40.
@coltonthacker7120
@coltonthacker7120 3 года назад
Love the content
@biluanarquia
@biluanarquia 3 года назад
One of the best decks I ever had. You know what? try Species Specialist for card draw, each vampire dying giving you cards at your hand, I also use Smothering Abomination
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
Smothering abominations is one of my favorite discoveries for the deck.
@mid9tstrangler
@mid9tstrangler 2 года назад
Hey guys, after giving this deck a tune-up, what would you say it's power level is now? based on a 1-10 scale. Thanks guys, love your content.
@mjvane46
@mjvane46 3 года назад
Great deck tech guys. I looked at building her at launch but never got around to it. With the rules change it looks less fun to play as im concerned games will turn into solitaire? Fantastic card recommendations tho. Keep it up
@yellowsquashbanana
@yellowsquashbanana 3 года назад
I hope Elenda gets a reasonable reprint sometime soon. That's one I would not mind having.
@arthurvandenbergh1881
@arthurvandenbergh1881 3 года назад
Don’t mind me, just taking all these suggestions for my Teysa Karlov deck 😁
@racheperry2502
@racheperry2502 3 года назад
Just a random question. Do you guys like the card an-zerrin ruins? I run it in zada and it does serious work
@rockstrongomaxpower
@rockstrongomaxpower 3 года назад
I like playing Orzhov a lot and a ramp card that I feel it's underappeciated, but constantly overperforms on my decks, especially if I have a lot of cheap dummies early on, is Explorer's Scope. It's cheap to play and equip, it is budget friendly, the floor is: gives you information on the upcoming card, while the ceiling is massive. When decks are roughly 1/3 lands, the chances of ramping are quite decent.
@MonkeyDGreed1854
@MonkeyDGreed1854 2 месяца назад
Might I suggest "promise of Loyalty"
@Joeled_Lotus
@Joeled_Lotus 3 года назад
Another good carddraw card for this deck is Species Specialist. Either name Vampire and watch all your token draw you a new hand or you could name another tribal that an opponent are playing. A really good boardwipe is also Tragic Arrogance. You choose what your opponents can keep and everything else is sacced. Also really good finisher for this deck is: - Hatred. Attack an opponent who has no blocks or that you suspect will not block, then play hatred and pay as much life you want. Finish of the opponent and then you get your life back, and also may sac your Elenda to swarm out with tokens ;) - Ashnod's altar + Nim Deathmantle. With Elenda on the board you can get infinity token and colorless mana (since it will be equiped on Elenda when she dies and give her +2/+2). - Divine Visitation. Really great finisher like Cathars' crusade, just sac Big Elenda in end phase and smash with the angels on your turn.
@djbisson9819
@djbisson9819 3 года назад
Ha the wayfarers bauble account made its way here. See them a lot over on the commanders quarters page for obvious reasons.
@permafrost2064
@permafrost2064 3 года назад
I am converting my Orah deck over to Elenda. I run a lot of these cards in Orah already, but clerics are just.... clerics. Its a fun deck if you can get an engine going but I find it to be pretty inconsistent.
@BlakeBird-sf1kk
@BlakeBird-sf1kk Год назад
Another good board wipe would be Divine Reckoning.
@TheObstalace
@TheObstalace 3 года назад
Pitiless Plunderer is legit just a non sac outlet phyrexian altar, but your mana even stays. If you're in black sac decks and need phyrexian altar but don't have a small fortune, try it instead
@FKnop
@FKnop 3 года назад
What do you think about Martial Coup in this deck? Also why isn't there a Ghostly Prison?
@Let-Me-Cook69
@Let-Me-Cook69 3 года назад
They don't think prison is that good. It's only good if your group usually wins by combat
@mariesidman7905
@mariesidman7905 2 года назад
I just found an infinite combo for colored mana building my own elenda deck. Spawning pit+anointed procession+pitiless plunderer. Sac 10 creatures to pit, get 20 treasure tokens, use 5 to get 10 tokens off spawning pit, rinse and repeat. If you have artist, celebrant, zulaport or elenda its a win on the spot. It nets 15 treasures each time and I can't find it on any mtg reddit boards or commanders spellbook so if anybody is reading this I give full permission for you to run this combo and tell your buddies you came up with it.
@jlateralus21
@jlateralus21 2 года назад
Noob question about mdfc's. In the decklist, it says 32 lands, 36 with mdfc. Does that mean i can flip the card to the side I want when I'm playing it? Like it's in my hand in a sleeve, socery side to the front. And if I need a land can i just play it as a land instead? Sorry if it's obvious. I really don't know the answer.
@jonasdietrich8109
@jonasdietrich8109 Год назад
In your hand/library/grave it will always show the front face (single triangle). But when you have the card in hand, you can choose whether to play the one face (spell) or the other face (land).
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg 2 года назад
I almist want to go like vampire purest with this.
@treeswap
@treeswap 3 года назад
Can you share your thoughts on Blade of the Bloodchief? You were mentioning how Pitiless Plunderer and a few sac outlets were close to breaking the deck and I feel like it is something that this card really pushes in ridiculous directions.
@adrianlearns
@adrianlearns 3 года назад
I run it and it’s so disgusting whether it’s on sengir or elenda
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
Absolute auto include, it was great before teysa with taysa it is absolutely bonkers. 1 sac nets 6.
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
I've been running elenda as my main deck for years. Some suggestions Coat of arms over Cathod's crusade Dark privilege over carrion feeder Bastion of Remembrance over blood artist Gift of Immortality and lifeline are pretty epic Blade of the blood chief, and teysa And my personal favorite over performer Hatred
@jacktupp4358
@jacktupp4358 3 года назад
Hatred is absolutely insane with Elenda.
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
Also increasing devotion and conquerors pledge end up better then the small afterlife creatures, turn 4 is when you want your board to have some sacrifice creatures and both of these hit that curve just right. Sucks to draw a doomed traveler late game
@meyeneetuks4680
@meyeneetuks4680 2 года назад
@@jacktupp4358 hatred is also a $40 card. I want the deck to be strong but i kinda want to eat too
@skotmatthews8940
@skotmatthews8940 3 года назад
I disagree that deadly tempest was the worst. Sure, without the life gain, but the original person had life gain so the goal was originally to use it as a win con. Therefore it WAS an acceptable card pre-tuneup.
@neillaw
@neillaw 2 года назад
Came here to try and cut 2 cards to fit ones in Now I've watched this I have 5 more cards to add and nothing to cut...
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 3 года назад
Do you guys think feed the swarm is a bad card? I was under the impression that you did but I can't see why.
@Oakenbull
@Oakenbull 3 года назад
If you have access to white, Feed The Swarm is generally not needed
@Oakenbull
@Oakenbull 3 года назад
Great video, I have grown to love you snarky bastards
@luckyduck4084
@luckyduck4084 3 года назад
Plunderer, pit, procession. Badabing, infinite etb and death triggers
@elefalanda
@elefalanda 3 года назад
Why don't make room for Open the Armory? Is dirty cheap and tutor skullclamp, sword of the animist, by the way also why don't play animate dead (dance of the dead/necromancy) and Leonin Relic-Warder, great cards by itself and easily combo with a zulaport effect
@trevorsheehan9940
@trevorsheehan9940 3 года назад
Elenda, Pitiless Plunderer, anointed procession and spawning pit on the field. Sac Elenda to spawning pit get 2 vampires and 2 treasures Sac the vampires to spawning pit to get 4 treasures and spawning pit has 3 charge counters on it Use one treasure to make 2 spawn tokens which you then sac back to spawning pit to get 4 more treasures leaving you with 7 treasures and 3 counters on spawning pit Repeat for infinite treasures which you can use to infinitely cast and sac elenda for infinite vampires etc
@PinkPenguinMovie
@PinkPenguinMovie Год назад
What about grafted war gear?!?!
@PawzBrownMTG
@PawzBrownMTG 3 года назад
This is my favorite Ledgendary creature
@PawzBrownMTG
@PawzBrownMTG 3 года назад
Did you guys put Karn's Bastion into the deck?
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
Mine too. It is the first mythic I opened when I came back to magic. First edh deck I made, and still my favorite.
@gregorymurphey2115
@gregorymurphey2115 3 года назад
@@PawzBrownMTG I tried it for a bit but never used the ability, it was just a little to expensive.
@hatred7728
@hatred7728 3 года назад
What, no love? The hate is real.
@bryanpmcgowan
@bryanpmcgowan 3 года назад
What is an "up version"?
@Winterhe4rt
@Winterhe4rt 3 года назад
Myr Sire but no doomed traveler?? No Ozolith, no Blade of the Bloodchiedf? NGL this cant be right.
@Zerschnitzler77
@Zerschnitzler77 3 года назад
oh yeah, one of two ixalan carss worth money! this set wasnt beloved by fans but its aging well
@vaporeonlvl1009
@vaporeonlvl1009 3 года назад
i cant help but think that blade of the bloodchief is miles better than blackblade reforged also, nim deathmantle
@Goodthrust69
@Goodthrust69 3 года назад
I have a massively tuned Elenda deck and Elspeth is bonkers good. Her second ability is a wrath that hits most of the board but doesnt touch elenda. Or she makes tokens to sac to various things. Or God willing her ultimate gives your team a permanent plus 2 plus 2 and flying. Saying a card sucks because it's not as good as lili dreadhoard general is a logical blunder. I've been rocking those amazing boardwipes and there are so many good ones now. Single combat basically gives you two turns to beat face. It stops people from casting etb creatures which cant be underestimated. The free spell force of despair is just sick with Elenda out. Promise of loyalty has worked out the two times I've played it. Leaving opponents with creatures that cant swing at you is hilarious. Mace of the valiant and blade of the blood chief will win games. I have the ozolith in the deck but somehow have never drawn it. Not once. The thing about Elenda is she basically triumphs over aristocrats decks. She gains life accidentally, profits hugely off of opponents sacrificing critters and can give birth to giant litters of vampire babehs. In my playgroup there is usually 1 aristocrats deck at every game.
@obadijahparks
@obadijahparks 3 года назад
No more professional magic!..... nitpicking nerds: have you heard of our patrion?.... 😎
@Jimmythehead
@Jimmythehead 3 года назад
Wasn’t Elenda somewhat of a good guy in the lore? Like I think I remember she was disgusted at what the dusk rose had become since her death when she was resurrected
@lordtrollage2819
@lordtrollage2819 3 года назад
Yep, she was totally a good guy
@Jimmythehead
@Jimmythehead 3 года назад
@@lordtrollage2819 lol, not completely evil I mean
@alexmendoza9645
@alexmendoza9645 3 года назад
I like to imagine Elenda is a high school football coach; you're out of here! (Vampiric rites) get in front of this! (Blocks)
@AllegoryGar
@AllegoryGar 3 года назад
If sacrifice themes are called aristocrats, what deck archetype will we declare our underdog blue-collar proletariat?
@falandrion2870
@falandrion2870 3 года назад
Gruul Stompy?
@shamtactics4712
@shamtactics4712 3 года назад
I want a job so I can join the patreon. Until then ramen and free subscription and sharing the videos links with friends 😎
@obadijahparks
@obadijahparks 3 года назад
Sifter of skulls!... I have found my golden pig award winning card!....
@nicolasgravel7056
@nicolasgravel7056 3 года назад
Algorithm comment
@sc100ott
@sc100ott 3 года назад
I hate aristocrats and sac outlets. What are the best ways to STOP this strategy when I play against it?
@commanderconstruct2514
@commanderconstruct2514 2 года назад
Anything that says when a creature dies exile it instead.
@jesushankerstein9487
@jesushankerstein9487 3 года назад
What if the only downvote on this video was the person who requested the tune up? :P
@blackdoomduck
@blackdoomduck 3 года назад
Anointed procession to double your tokens in this deck is disgusting
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
Could be juicy
@Munchie3777
@Munchie3777 3 года назад
Phrexian arena is so bad!!! Even ik this xd why is it 20+ bucks
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
We have GOT to make the Phyrexian Arena short!
@Munchie3777
@Munchie3777 3 года назад
@@NitpickingNerds yeah u guys should idk why ppl love it so much
@modernphilosophicaldiscour3558
@modernphilosophicaldiscour3558 3 года назад
The Command Zone talk about phyrexian arena a lot. They raise a lot of card prices.
@Munchie3777
@Munchie3777 3 года назад
@@modernphilosophicaldiscour3558 yeah idk i just feel its really slow in comparison 2 alot of cards tbh if ppl want 2 play it thats fine but tbh even in my budget decks i would avoid that card like the plague (*.*)>
@Munchie3777
@Munchie3777 3 года назад
Unless im missing some kind of combo xd
@kal5em
@kal5em 3 года назад
I was promised a view of view nitpicking by your channels name. Instead, all you guys do is actual legitimate well thought out big brain stuff. Where's the nitpicking?
@coltonthacker7120
@coltonthacker7120 3 года назад
Also... Is Joe single? A guy needs so know and that guy is me
@yawgmoththranphysician139
@yawgmoththranphysician139 3 года назад
Skullclamp should not be in deck. Too slow
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 3 года назад
Love love this series!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 года назад
It's a lot of fun, and super long-running too!
@tonyantony6110
@tonyantony6110 3 года назад
We all do!
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