Eliezer Yudkowsky on AI doom & how to stop illegal boats - The Week in 60 Minutes | SpectatorTV 

Thank you for reminding me not to vote Lib Dem next time 😂

Eliezer Yudkowsky's message is somewhat terrifying, Well done for having him onto your programme. I think that most people have no idea about the inherent danger of super intelligence and the message needs to get out there quickly because nothing else really matters if we are all dead.

Tim Farron fails to recognise that the channel boats are primarily carrying economic migrants not refugees and that the numbers are effectively unlimited and he does not even consider the impact on the UK society and economy. He implies that we can either improve processing or address the channel issue whereas obviously we need to do both at once. He refuses to put a cap on his sign up anywhere open borders policy.

Unfortunately Tim Farron was a more effective speaker than the conservative who was too apologetic. I'm not bothered by Britains standing in the world order. I am bothered that Britain is unable to police its own borders. Same goes with the EU which was why I voted Brexit having been an EU supporter up to that point. It matters to populations who can come to their country which is why you are now getting a backlash is countries throughout EU.

Not one of these boat people is a refugee. They come from France where they are not persecuted

Louise Perry is a good example of the opposite of plastic surgery.

Tim Farron ' we could be seen as a bad team player' Tim I could not care less

Funnily enough on the Eritrean ‘refugees’, when I worked in Border Force there was numerous times when the people claiming to be from Eritrea struggled to pas the language test and were clearly from Sudan or Ethiopia but were granted either bail to have their asylum claim heard later ( and almost all absconded never to be seen again) or were granted Asylum because the system is so appalling.

Surely, the cap has to be what local services and infrastructure can support?

Louise Perry is very much more beautiful than any Kardashian. I have a horror of cyborg faces…

if Tim Farron thinks "a very small minority" ( 40,000 - size of a small town every year) is no problem.. it'll be fun if/when we get a Lib/Lab coalition after the next election

Would have been good to press Farron on whether he would ever say no, or whether for him there are absolutely no limits to how many refugees he wants to welcome.

Bit naughty this week. There are 101 more effective people who could have been put up against Tim Farron, and the Spectator knows it. A disappointingly muddle-headed discussion. La Perry excellent, as ever.

The NHS should not have to fix it. They should advertise that they do not do correction to corrective surgery. You paid for the damage, you pay for the repair. Another reason why the NHS never cost so much and never failed at its core service so much, at one and the same time.

Comparing a very small island like Britain to France in terms of taking immigration is crazy. I also find the fact that Faron does not consider the impact on the people and places they are having to deal with the immigrants is what we have come to expect from politicians. Everyone outside of Britain is more important than those who live here already. Culturally I have a problem with a vast number holding an ideology/religion that cannot integrate through marriage with our population who are not of their persuasion. Look at the trouble that has caused across Europe..especially Sweden not to mention France. It doesn’t work.

What is the point of the Lib Dems?

Farron is so slippery on this subject, he can’t admit that he believes in unlimited integration and you can tell he barely thinks through the implications of all this extra immigration

Hopefully Tim Farron can nominate some places to house several thousand more migrants in his constituency then? Its very easy to pontificate on this whilst your constituency is protected by National Park status from having these economic migrants arriving on your doorstep and swamping local services... Yes the public services for us urban dwelling folk are just as stretched as yours and in no better place to accomodate all these extra people.

How many refugees does Mr Farron house?

Two reasons so many people have cosmetic surgery are 1. They're boring people and it passes some time, and 2. The single most effective improvement, losing weight through exercise and diet, takes a modicum of effort.

Why the navy simply doesn't stop the boats? I think the navy should form a unit similar to anti-riot police. They should stop the boats at the border in the middle of the sea and inform the French authorities.

It's utter nonsense to think 80% of the boat people are legitimate.

I love the intro music! Also amazing to have Eliezer on the show. He has an important message that more need to hear.

Let's go Eliezer!

Yes!! So great to have Alice weighing in!! Love your History Hit documentaries!!

All the dystopian movies from my youth are coming true. Now.

Dr Yudkowsky, I wish you were in charge.

If the government wanted to stop the boats, they would stop the boats. There is "Turn about or be prepared to be fired upon"! There is immediately putting them in safe transport when they get to the UK and returning them directly to France. There is arresting RNLI crews and charging them with people trafficking. There is putting them in Refugee Camps in the outlying islands around our mainland. All could be done tomorrow and for a fraction of the cost of pretending we will send 100 people to Rwanda.

Yudkowsky- the legend!

As an add-on to the discussion about plastic surgery... while men may not pursue surgery as often as women, huge numbers of men are abusing steroids, also driven by social media images, but in this case normalising unnaturally muscular physiques instead of bums.

Thanks for having Louise Perry on the show. Being an educator, I'm truly worried about the beauty standards that are promoted on social media. Teens believe that "fixing" their appearance can be the solution to their social problems.

Mr Farron, we just haven't got the houses.

As a man involved in amateur sports while I was at uni 5 years ago and senior sports now I'd say deoending on the club steroids are more common than I once thought

I find the migration debate from the two politicians insightful only in the sense it reveals we are led by lambs. The real substance of the debate is ignored or perhaps not even grasped. It is simply that 9 out of 10 people in the world have a lower standard of living and fewer rights than us. With that context it the solutions are bigger than letting people in. As we cannot let everyone in and doing so lowers the standard of living of those here. I think the best thing is to assist them improve their own countries.

I’m in Oz - can‘t watch the interview on AI before breakfast! It looks interesting tho’. Thanks for another interesting program.

One in five or whatever world stat Mr Farron MP quotes takes no account of practicalities. Any application process must firstly consider available resources and space. Safe and legal must be realistically capped.

Stephen Bush has improved in the last couple of years.

I remember an awful joke, from my schooldays in the nineteen seventies, concerning refugees. How do you get one hundred vietnemese into an empty baked bean tin? Tell them it floats! There was also an unrelated one, from the nineteen eighties, about The Plastic Ono Band. How do you fit all five members of the group into a four seater car? Put John Lennon in the ash tray! I love The Boy Wonders Tie, in this video, and I think Alice Foxton is an absolute babe. Please have her on more often. ❤❤❤

James Philips had a good short interview with Eliezer. However, I have yet to hear a step by step example of a mechanism how exactly will AI end us?

19:05 Eliezer

Why is the argument always Britain does not take as many as this country or that country. That is for sovereign nations to decide. We need a complete ban on all immigration. Anyone fleeing needs to stay in the nearest safe country.

People being manipulated by advertising to feel inadequate about their physical appearance and then go and have surgery in a foreign country where there is no come back if it goes wrong. You just have to go the NHS to hopefully minimise the damage. We have become feeble desperate beings.

Does Tim Farron realise the area differential between England and Germany?

Simple trade-off: the money saved by closing down all the Channel migrant closings (big criminal operation, Navy disabling the boats where necessary) can be added to the foreign aid budget to help countries like Eritrea.

omfg it's history Alice!

Disappointed with the first segment with the two politicians. I watch Spectator TV for the unique point of view of non-politicians and commentators. I can watch stuff like that on Politics Live any day. Can do better Spectator TV.

Not a very useful discussion on illegal immigration to UK.

I love Louise Perry so much

Tim as usual framing the issue in only his paradigm. His % stats of global migrants may accurate but it's irrelevant, we have to guage the impact and issues it has specifically on the uk and its citizens. The issue isn't even illegal immigration at this point, it's got so bad we dont have enough homes, schools, doctors etc. Just repeating the mantra of build more homes doesn't cut it I'm afraid. Reduce the demand on housing by reducing immigration and everything gets pressure released.

We humanity should have more evidence an examples of two AI systems talking to themselves.

I think we need a referendum on levels of immigration. Most people are ok with some but we have had mass immigration for about 20 yrs and I suspect most people do not want or support it. In other words we live in a democracy where the likes of Mr Fallon and his many political colleagues, including many conservatives, are overuling the wishes of the people they are meant to represent and also using these same tax payers money to pursue an agenda that the tax payers do not want whilst also taking their tax money to pay for their own high salary, pension and benefits. MPs are paid to represent us, not foreign nationals. If you look a the many terrorist attacks and people killed, raped and injured by a small number of immigrants, this outcome appears acceptable collateral damage to Mr Fallon but it is not acceptable to me. If Mr Fallon is genuine about trying to help he should go to these countries and volunteer to help them using his own resources, not use someone elses hard earnt tax money to pretend to be helping to make himself feel better and presumably give him the sense he is standing on some kind of moral highground when nothing could be further from the truth. He is betraying the people he is meant to represent and putting them at serious risk of harm whilst also impoverishing them and failing to support our own people who are in genuine need. He and his kind should be utterly ashamed of their tretcherous behaviour. I am a Christian who has done volunteer work abroad to help genuine refugees and I did that for God not to make myself look good by ill-considered political moral posturing or accepting pay to do a job and then betraying those who appointed and paid me.

Gossip is the weapon ofthe mischievous liar and can do much harm. I see no reason to celebrate it.

While I'm not an AI expert, I'm excited about the possibilities of how AI can transform healthcare, especially in dentistry.

I’m demanding (very politely, not, like Nadine demands) that Katie Balls have a regular spot every single week …and that she play croquet with Freddy and have lashings of ginger beer…

“She is looking good, for beauty we will pay.” - The Model, Kraftwerk.

Very coy about mentioning Huw Edwards by name and his strange extra curricular activities. Is the State Mouthpiece pontificating on Royals, Religion, journalism with integrity and selling us The Vax a mate?

How can you view a woman looking like a ceramic Siamese cat as beautiful?

How come more smart people aren’t drawing the parallel with Oppenheimer? It’s not like he’s not in the news at the moment?😮

27:07 Can we just not hit the off button? Problem solved!

It's and interesting to compare the Spectator women with surgically altered women mentioned in the Louise Perry piece. The natural looking, smart & witty Spectator Ladies strike me as being infinitely preferable to the Hollywood mannequins with their bizarre world views and plastic faces.

Comparisons with Germany's refugee figures are moot since housing costs are far lower in Germany ie affordable rents. We have a severe housing shortage in the UK as it is and we are only building 2/3 of the government's own target of new homes. We cannot accept any more refugees or immigrants until we address the shortage of housing.

If only women looked more like Louise Perry and less like Kim Kardashian……

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We do not have a responsibility to rescuer the worlds poor. His entire argument is "we should save everyone". No. They have no defacto right to be here. We are not obliged to take them.

Ref Ai. Can't you just pull the plug out?🤔

Tim Farron the Snake. I thought he was a bible reader (to the dismay of his party).

Just for the tape : you correspondent is incalculably more beautiful than that dumpster fire of petroleum-based gels….Kim Karkrashian

Just listening to Kate Andrews talking on How do we Fix Britain's Stagnant Economy. She bemoans that there are a large number of unfilled jobs now we have skills requirements for immigrants. By definition she is talking about low skill labour not being filled although immigration has never been higher. Then she within a minute talks about how many people are not working in the UK. People who don't require skills to do the jobs she is talking about. If Kate Andrews doesn't listen to herself, I am wondering why anyone else does. Please get rid of this economists who doesn't seem to be able to work out why house prices have skyrocketed and continues to think that there is no amount of immigration that is too high for a very small island.

It is a shame that we have abandoned something for everyone. I very much don't care for fat bums and large breasts. With varying implants, the aesthetic that I find attractive is becoming increasingly rare.

Tim Farron is thick as a plank. Honestly could you find no one else?

I love how Eliezer very logically explaining why humanity with 99% certainty will go extinct in the near future is followed by a pretty chirpy dude going "next bla bla bla.." Humanity at its best.

How many refugees live in tim farrons house ??

24:40 The digital dystopia I worried about here, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DIlX_bmi9NE.html, well it almost seems like a utopia compared to what might be in store for us with AI!

it's actually quite amazing how in the era of "don't objectify women!" that women are actually massively obsessed with figuratively objectifying themselves (onlyfans, Instagram) and literally objectifying themselves (cosmetic surgery)

These people are so culturally different from us there is no way they can ever integrate! If you had ever lived in Africa or the Middle East you would know. Why does the rest of the whole of Africa not step up and take them? You are so naive! Let’s look after our own homeless.

Eliezer talked about super ai "wanting" to do this or that - why would ai want anything at all? Surely it will always remain passive until prompted? The only reason sentient beings want anything is because they are locked into an evolutionary paradigm where the fact that resources are limited will affect their chances of reproduction. Of course, none of this is consciously considered (except by evolutionary biologists), we all just move around wanting, and getting stuff. That's what makes all biological lifeforms dangerous and/or hidden. Ai will never play that game - it doesn't care if it exists or not. I cannot see why ai would ever make the leap towards caring about its existence. Not one of these doomsd-ai people have adequately tackled this leap in their prognostications. Anyone care to disabuse me on this?

I have to say, regarding the immigration debate, and no matter your views on the subject, that this was a fairly measured representation of what can be considered ‘both sides’.

The Tory MP: logical and reasoned approach. Tim Farron: emotional and irrational and devoid of any critical thinking, relying on non sequiturs and straw man logical fallacy arguments.

Tom Farron plainly doesnt know (or is oretending that he dosnt) that the overall net migration is the better part of 1M/y already from multiple sources of which the boats are but one. Another case of mental or moral ability being afflicted by generous amounts of govern ment money. Tom Hunt seems less affected .... Anybody else notice the 'bureauspeak' words come out, 'challenging' , 'difficult', etc...

Weak episode. Everyone on holiday I guess.

Tim Farron was infuriating. He said so many words without actually saying anything tangible! The idea that the EU Schengen zone would collapse in to anarchy, with border checks between members to root out illegals because the UK starts shipping people back to France is an insult to all of Europe. People like him always say things like "lets have a grown up debate" and "mature didcussion" while making no attempt to enter in to meaningful debate where THEY put forward solutions and can defend them at even the first question.

7:30 That’s a li3, they are granted it because it’s easier, and he knows it’s a li3. Disappointed the Spectator is so useless at interviews

Is so depressing listening to Tim Farron! He is such a lefty and wants half the world living in the uk and we the tax payer have to foot the bill just so he can feel good about himself!!

Tom Hunt totally destroyed by Farron there

Tim Farron, and most Lib Dem voters I've come across, looks like the type of guy that would watch with delight while someone of more substance entertains his wife in her boudoir.

The AI segment was the most awkward, autistic conversation I've ever heard 😂