Elijah: *mumbling as he dies of old age in a dark prison* Courier: *hauling several tons of gold back to my gang of insane people to spend on illicit firearms, before going on an adventure to argue with my own brain*
Don't be silly, you can't buy illicit guns in New Vegas. That would require the area to have a governing body that declared some kinds of gun illegal in the first place.
@@vladdracula2643 I technically go to Lonesome road for like 20 minutes just to get stuff to sell then head to Big Mountain as soon as I hit Lvl 15 for the story perks.
@@vladdracula2643 Dead money alludes to pretty much all of the DLC and Elijah went there before coming to the Sierra Madre. Several of the products in Dead Money were produced or developed by the Big MT so its supposed to be a jumping off point to see where all of this came from. However, i usually do OWB first because you can use the Transportalponder to instantly transfer yourself to your base instead of having to hoof it or Long Haul all 37 gold bars back to base.
@@vladdracula2643 You can play them in whatever order you like. I prefer doing the DLC in chronological order of when they were released. So Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues, and Lonesome Road last. However, I've heard of some people who like to leave Dead Money for last since they like hearing about Elijah first in the Big Empty and then confronting him in the Sierra Madre. TLDR: There is no right order and you can play them in whatever order you like.
With a mind as high function as Elijah’s, he’s slightly panicking and realizing how fucked he is in 2 times speed. At first, he tries to bargain because in his mind he has all the bargain chips in the world. Advanced technologies, the secrets of the Big Empty, gold, things to rule the wastes, his collars. But then when that fails, he thinks he’ll be fine and tries to think of solutions but, thinks about it more and more then quickly concludes that he’s doomed because there’s no way out and no one on the outside is gonna come looking for him. The fact that he settles for at least having pip-boy light being a good thing speaks volumes. He’s nervous and holding onto whatever ounce of hope he can, which in this case is the mere light from his pip-boy. Then at last, he is filled with anger and hatred for Courier 6 because it is their fault he is trapped and can do nothing about it. I do think there are slightly longer pauses between each phase of the dialogue in reality but, I believe the message is meant to all be in one message and take place in a small time frame. The vault is losing power quickly and quite literally falling apart around him.
Elijah is a perfect encapsulation of the BOS in his last moments, clinging to tecnology power and brutality while dying alone in a bunker, anyone who could save him from his own ways turned away by his actions
Honestly, I never really got the BOS hate, they 100% saved more people than they killed, and while their efforts are a bit misguided, they always do thier best to save Humanity.
@@johnkonig865 west coast and east coast brotherhood is very different, east are goody two shoes even when slightly xenophobic like in 4, but the west, the west coast are like the epitome of hoarders, they barely came out of their holes ever and even then the most they did was go to war with the NCR who aren't even the worst people in the wastes
@@johnkonig865 The brotherhood aren't bad, they just don't do shit unless its in the east, like most is NCR conflict, Most, other than that theres like no way to join them other than already being born there, come to think of it the brotherhood and the enclave aren't to different the enclave just went out and did more shit
I've always loved how his terrified babbling almost makes you feel bad for this scared old man. But his last words, dripping with venom and hatred, remind you that he is a completely irredeemable monster
When I first heard this, I immediately whispered back, "...until then, I'll die mad, so get ready." because my first time playing dead money was a trip to hell.
@@xtubuch4593 I always found it funny that the entire message of all of Fallout is learning to let go, but it especially being so in Dead Money. But some crazy players figured out how to take everything lol.
@@xtubuch4593 to be fair, we let go. We let Elijah go into the vault, after taking everything not nailed down. And we let go of all the free space in our inventory
Definitely, it shows. Like we can almost picture the visual expressions with this voice acting. When you compare it to the dubbed ones, those other ones are lacking the depth that it's shown in the english dub.
@@Observer-d8z a couple of months ago he said he'd stop doing videos but kep the channel so people could still watch,later tho he deleted it and some stuff came out about him I don't know if it's true or not tho.
"You've heard of the Sierra Madre Casino. We all have, the legend, the curses. Some foolishness about it lying in the middle of a City of Dead. A city of ghosts. Beneath a blood-red cloud... ...a bright, shining monument, reaching out, luring treasure hunters to their doom. An illusion. A promise that you can change your fortunes. Begin again. Finding it, though, that's not the hard part. It's letting go."
"There is an expression in the Wasteland: "Old World Blues." It refers to those so obsessed with the past they can't see the present, much less the future, for what it is. They stare into the what-was, eyes like pilot lights, guttering and spent, as the realities of their world continue on around them. Science is a long, steady progression into the future. What may seem a sudden event often isn't felt for years, even centuries, to come. In the times following the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, however, Old World Blues took on a new meaning. Where once it was viewed as a form of sadness, nostalgia, it became an expression describing the potential for the future. It can be easy to see Science as evil, technology unchecked as the source of all ills, all misfortunes. With the Courier at the helm, Science became a beacon for the future. There was Old World Blues, and New World Hope. And hope ruled the day at Big MT."
"The threat of the White Legs ended, Joshua Graham helped the Sorrows and Dead Horses tend to their fallen comrades and secure Zion. The Courier's words had stayed Joshua's wrath in his darkest hour, and in sparing Salt-Upon-Wounds, he was changed. While he continued to advocate militant opposition to the enemies of New Canaan, he sometimes showed quarter to those who crossed his family. Eventually this new spirit would diminish the myth of the Burned Man in distant lands - a small price for the peace it brought to Joshua Graham."
Courier: "Lmao cry about it." Also it's funny how almost everything Eljiah promised, the Courier can obtain them all by themself, except for one thing: the collars.
"Maybe Veronica... no, no! She thinks I'm dead!" Breaks your heart for the power fist lady. It's almost as if some part of Elijah's twisted psyche still treated Veronica as his child.
This dlc is the best solely because you can’t just brute force through it it’s so poetic the phrase of it “the hard part it letting go” which fits because most won’t admit this dlc broke them and their cheese builds
Devs: "B-but this DLC is all about greed and the horror consequences of it!" Me, slowly crawling across the Mojave, with a full stack of gold and pre-war money in my pocket, listening beggings of a dying old man, that I buried alive in one of the most terrible places accros the wastelands: "Bozar... Need to buy Bozar from that dumb robot..."
Ah, it is truly amazing what revelations failure can bring to a person. Even more impressive is what clarity the knowledge of one's inevitable Death gives. And yet some are just too spiteful or stubborn to take note. We truly are an odd species.
Failure is almost always more instructive than success; Success knows only that it works, whereas Failure understands how it works. Sometimes, it even knows why.
I mean who knows how long the couriers life was extended thank to that big mt. Tech, especially the heart and spine stuff. The guys got the most advanced doctors on the planet too look after him, hell with the House ending he might just tube himself and live for centuries more.
If you’re one who takes what happened in fallout: dust as the canon ending of new vegas, than Elijah wasn’t wrong about you dying just like him - the difference is that you go out much worse. In a cage of your own design, in a radiated immortal body thats only way out is to be put down like a rabid dog. But where elijah was too low profile in the waste to even be forgotten, the courier’s involvement will always be remembered for better or for worse.
I do believe that Dust courier judging by some of his records weren't actually a bad person. He really believed in his idea of independent Vegas and wanted to make things as right as he thought they should be. But made a slip. He clearly hates himself for what happened, this is why he attacks the survivor, he wants this to end, he seems to fully understand what he is doing, it's not just madness kicking in unless dust MC wouldn't stand a damn second, courier 6 might become a ghoul and might be old, but he is still courier 6
To be fair I feel like him being creative he could figure out a way to climb through the elevator shaft, and I know it’s supposed to be sealed tight but again I’m sure with the tools down their he’s smart enough to figure out how to make a high powered plasma/fusion torch to slice the doors open to the elevator shaft and through the bottom of the elevator, I just feel like a stubborn old man like that could do that in a week before dying of hunger or dehydration.
he's sealed in the vault, where the gold bars are, there was nothing else in it and it was meant to be a cage that can't be broken out of for someone and now he is trapped in there with nothing else
@@PesterJester3 I just for my thinking Elijah had far more access to that vault that anyone knows, from what I can guess Elijah once he entered the casino he was brought to a command room watching over everything, from what we see when he does show up at the end from his pipboy he easily could engage and possibly disengage the security measures, I doubt he was stupid enough to read the accounts trap to fully seal that room and die I just I know this is just stupid rambling but I feel like that man could find a way to escape with time, I might be giving him to much credit from the amount of damage we hear about in the think tank and escape. But as it stands I feel like he could escape.
@@TimeKillerGuy no that's reasonable but the trap was only active in the vault and can only be accessed/seen in the vault. No way of knowing its existence elsewhere because it was originally meant for someone else, can't remember who. Elijah is smart and scary but his ego was his downfall here
@@PesterJester3 it was meant for Dean Domino/ Vira. I think it's implied a few times that theres more in the vault but its always by Eliijah so thats questionable. Overall he's almost certainly fucked down there
@@PesterJester3 I feel like sadly we are cut out of to much, in truth from lore it self Sinclair actually had a possible way to stop the trap be it if in game was not sadly unfinished their was a idea to stop you and Elijah from being trapped and not seating off the stupid trap, but that’s not important, but I feel like their were blueprint in what we could assume being Sinclair office where I’m sure Elijah was stuck at.
I have a headcannon for this recording that it's being played out on a rigged up emergency broadcast by elijah in a last attempt, and it was rushed so it's mixing with a preexisting broadcast, where the music comes from. His gaspy out of breath last words of truly his last, as he's likely running low on oxygen, and with the power failing, will either suffocate, or the red mist will seep inside. Imagine.. Ghostperson elijah. He wasn't wearing a suit, but imagine, just how terrifying that would be to encounter.
@@starhalv2427I guess in the sort of perspective that wastelanders are monsters, which could maybe work from a certain perspective. I mean when you put it on paper, Elijah was a respected elder that degraded himself into his most greedy impulses forsaking everything his organization stood for and basically betrayed, tortured, enslaved and experimented his way until sierra madre where he met his end inside the vault he wished to claim. The courier could also be referenced to it depending on their decisions, for example if you kill all the other people instead of trying to help them *and* taking all the gold for yourself, making you no better than the insane old man.
@starhalv2427 not the specific hatred bit but in the world of fallout being pro extinction wouldn't be that odd, humanity barely deserves the second chance it got.
He was a bad man, but he was a very talanted and bright one. He is a one of a kind person who has traveled and known literally every dlc, created weapons by kitbashing anything together and was a nice person to Veronica. And just so you know, to reach his levels of talent and ability is something no regular can achieve. You have to be truly GIFTED to make things he can and do things he can. His greed was awful, but he was truly making use of anything he had and wanted.
I imagine The Courier just sitting outside the Vault door, wondering if they're doing the right thing, leaving a desperate old man to suffocate to death in the depths of a lost city in the middle of the desert. The Elder of their Order, the Father of their closest friend, a man who had suffered at the hand of his own ambition and drive for technology that it drove him mad. But in his last word, dripping with hate and venom, The Courier leaves, leaving them with the final message. "I'm sorry, Elijah."
Imagine fallout season 2 has Lucy and the Ghoul passing through the Sierra Madre, they some how get the vault door open and all that's inside is a skeleton dressed in brotherhood robes.
Elijah couldn't live at peace without knowing, understanding and having. And at the end, he couldn't even die at peace, remorseful of others. Another ghost of the Sierra Madre who couldn't let go.
Dead Money gets some flack, from people who don't understand grim tragety in story telling. These weren't just his last words for you, the courier, but for everyone he wronged along the way. Elijah, could never let go :)
Silence is the *best* option, but, there's so many ice cold shit you should be allowed to say. "Yeah. But I'll die where I chose to." "When you get to Hell, tell Dean he shoulda let go." "You're not even the scariest ghost I've got haunting me." "Lol. Furthermore, lmao."
The words of a desperate old man saying everything he could possibly think up in a last ditch effort to save his life. Along with the dramatic music. This is too good
One of the finest villains in gaming we have ever get to interact and witness their end. This standard is forgotten by most of today's triple A companies.
Theres just some lines in these games where the VA put their heart, and soul into their readings, and they alone make what ever DLC , quest line, or encounter worth it
"No Elijah, I will grave myself in an unmarked grave in the open air of Vegas, unrecognized, resting in peace knowing I left the horror of the Mojave wastes, while you die... unable to let go. Rest in regret and fear Elijah... never change."
Oh it’s enough to make you feel bad for him he was a horrible man but no one deserves a death like this no one no matter how terrible or how amazing they are no one deserves a death like this.
I find if 2 times funnier if you finish old world blues and the lonesome road DLC first cause you already knew what he was referring to and it aint really gonna convice you anyways now that you dealt whatever you did on both of the DLCs
shame it's not a two way communication would love to just go "been there done that lmao" while he's bargaining with weapons and the secrets of big mt, after having built my character to turn people to red mist and meat chunks by just clicking on them and having flipped big mt upside down looking for everything old world blues had to offer
Hilariously, the Brains put in safe guards so you can’t talk about anything in Big Mt because of what happened with Ulysses and Elijah. You couldn’t tell him even if you wanted to. Maybe if he saw your stuff he’d know.
It's a tragedy that Dead Money has a reputation as being the 'worst' DLC because it takes your items away I remember bursting into tears as I beat it, not because I was sad or anything, but because it was a rollercoaster of emotions that I got really invested into. I still sometimes look back on that feeling, of standing outside the Madre, looking back at it, hard emotion to describe. Most impactful Fallout story I've ever encountered
We never got a confirmation on what's a canon NV ending and canon Elijah fate, but if you are asking if that audio rambling of his is legit then yeah, you get it if you escape from Sierra Madre while trapping him in the vault although it got bugged for me in my legion playthrough and I only got his radio wave from earlier part of DM
In my playthrough it glitched for me and was playing the previous Elijah radio lines even after I trapped him in the vault so it sounded as if he was having a schizophrenic episode
Dust isnt Canon, the NCR won the war, and the courier died peacefully in his suite at the lucky 38. As a casino owner who ran the Lucky 38 he would die peacefully with people around him. An old and free Joshua ghram would recite his last words to the courier who had been both scoundrel and thief but ultimately a man who made the Mojave wasteland into a civilized and safe land where dreams come true.
@@lerlmibea4792 sorry this isn't enclave propaganda, but the courier did help make new Vegas a place where one could take a kiss and build a dream on. So in many ways Mr house and NCR won. But the legion isn't dead and the Khan's have gone from drug raiders to a Kingdom north of the NCR.
It wasn't difficult to pick up the signal. All you had to do was climb up to the rooftops, above the clouds. It was gut wrenching to hear, but it wasnt difficult, the Courier thought, staring up at the grandiose golden lights of the Madre. No, none of that was all too hard. The courier thought, turning their back to it all, and looking out to the clear horizon, the miles of empty plains that lead back to the wasteland. They dropped their hand to the power switch on their pip boy, hesitating for a moment before cutting the signal short. There was a desire to say some snide remark. Insult the old man. But her words rung out like hammers in this graveyard once again. "Let go." That, was the hard part
After watching this whole clip, I seriously asked myself who would've been the perfect voice for the courier, because in my mind I imagined the courier talking to Elijah via pip-boy by saying "I already died once Elijah, and I won't die for a second time!" before leaving the Sierra Madre while hearing Elijah screaming and yelling for help, going completely insane before dying out of old age or lack of oxygen! The only actors who could be the voice of the Courier that come to my mind are either Ralph Ineson or Bryan Cranston to be honest, someone with a deep voice!
wait i've palyed dead money like three times now and never heard of this, eben after trapping hi min the vault and stealing all the gold, when does he say this?
