People don’t realize the importance of creating a healthy relationship with their animal before using corrections and punishment. Proper play is so important. Tools are not the answer…building trust is.
Went to a Larry seminar, very disappointed which is too bad especially booking a working spot didnt feel the effort . Also walking down an empty street isnt a great example if he is actually wanting to give owners information to help the dog.
Please, I am looking for advice from anyone. I have an almost 1.5-year-old male unaltered German Shepherd / Aussie mix that I have raised from 6 weeks old and trained daily. Great dog and very obedient, I have put in a lot of effort with his training and we have a great life together and a daily routine that works. On our daily walks we walk by a house with another German Shepherd mix who is left tied up outside 24/7. This dog is probably six months younger than my dog. Also a male. I'm not sure if he is unaltered. The neighbors who tie up the dog outside do not speak good English. The dog belongs to the live-in boyfriend of the woman who lives there. They do nothing with this dog and have no business owning him or keeping him. It's so sad and my heart breaks for him. I volunteered with the owners to pick the dog up and walk him with my dog when I go on my walks. The dog is very sweet. They agreed and are happy for me to do so. However he has never been trained, doesn't know any commands, has never walked on a leash, he is just a mess. I can't even really walk him with my dog because all he wants to do is jump all over my dog wanting to play. My dog tries to be a good sport about it, but it is just too much. My dog will give good corrections to the younger dog, but the younger dog doesn't seem to even know what they mean. I am trying to convince the owners to let me have the dog. But unless they agree, I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I cannot bear to leave this dog tied up and alone with no companionship when I have the ability and permission of the owners to pick him up and work with him. But at the same time, I work a full-time job and cannot take time away from my own dog and his walks and training to do one-on-one time with this other dog. This other dog will not pay any attention to me when my dog is around, it has to be one-on-one. I know there is not really a good answer here. Even if they would let me have this dog, which I have offered, I don't know if it's a good idea to have two male German Shepherd mixes who are around the same age. My dog is definitely a dominant dog of medium energy, and this younger dog seems to be submissive with high energy. I am willing to put in the effort, but at the same time I have no way of training this other person's dog with any consistency when I don't own him. I have walked with him 3 days in a row now and it is just awful. I can only manage the other dog on a leash, while I let my dog walk off leash with a remote collar. I cannot walk them side by side because the younger dog tries to jump all over my dog. I let them both off leash in my backyard and it would have gone okay if the younger dog would have just not been so all over the place. I realize the younger dog is just happy to have attention and that is part of where his excitement is coming from. Any advice here? I am really sad and stressed about the situation. But I don't want to walk away from it either. The new dog wants to be with us and is happy with us, it's just that he has zero training. I think my dog would like the other dog if I could get some training into him. I am open to having a second dog, and giving this other dog a home with me should the owners ever agree, but at the same time my dog and I have a really good thing going right now, all the training is really starting to pay off that I would hate to throw off that balance. But again, the pain of seeing this dog tied up is just too much. The other dog reminds me so much of my dog, he has potential and a good temperament.
There's a lot to unpack here, but I just wanted to say you have a good heart and you're giving this neglected and bored dog at least some level of fulfillment. And this is the main issue - he's unfulfilled in his life. The "training" part honestly is easy when everything else in place. What you describe is exactly what I'd expect to see from a tie-out dog. It'll ruin him if the owners don't step up. But at the same time, don't let a situation you can't control ruin what you have with your dog - your dog has to come first (including his one-on-one time with you, where he's not getting stressed from another over-aroused dog). Accept that most of his situation is out of your hands, and do the best you can / when you can.
@@csc-photo thank you so much for your reply. I don't have anyone else I know to talk through this with, no one I know is a true dog handler with knowledge about how to best approach this situation. I myself am only a beginner dog handler but I'm learning a lot from Larry.
This situation sucks. I totally understand how you feel, having to literally watch a dog be neglected. The dog needs to be worn out (exercised) before anyone can even start any kind of rehab. You don't have the time. It's a really sucky situation, but one that you are clearly emotionally involved in. Perhaps if they can be talked into rehoming the dog, maybe you could find someone who is an experienced dog handler who would be willing to take him in. Just a thought...
@@fallbrkgrl Update: I found the dog loose and tangled up in the junkyard debris behind this house. I was unable to tie him back up after the walk. He is now in my backyard. I contacted the owners and let him know I had him 😥
Reactivity where? Show us the dog we need help with. The dog that would be trying to lunge and drag to the dogs. This dog you show is well mannered and your viewers would kill for that kinda walk lol. Show us how you take a lunging barking dog and fix that.
First of all. You need to have a good relationship with the dog and build trust. I spent about 3 weeks relationship building and working on obedience with a reactive GSD. When I met the owners and the dog for the first time we went on a walk so that I could assess where the dog was at. The entire time the dog was pulling on the leash, reacting to every dog it saw and had complete disregard of his owners. Now, during those 3 weeks I played, trained and walked him at times or areas where I wouldn't run into dogs since I was working on building his foundation. When it was time to begin working on his reactivity his walk was already impeccable during normal distractions. I visited a fenced dog park and stayed very far away from dogs so that I could work on his basic obedience around dog distractions always keeping in mind where his threshold was at and sometimes I was as far as a football field away. Over the course of the first week I was able to sit and have him hold a down near the entrance of the dog park. There were a few dogs that would overwhelm him but my goal was to teach him that he needed to hold a down and to stop making a big deal out of every dog he saw. If for any reason he broke his obedience then I would have to give him a slight correction and fix him back into a down. Now if I had not done all this obedience work and established rules from the beginning that correction would have establish nothing and it would have caused the dog to just amp up even more. I literally just sat with the dog for an hour or so just watching dogs and relaxing while I listened to a podcast. I was rewarding the dog for remaining calm whenever a dog passed by and would also remain calm and wait for him to make a mistake if he did so to correct him. Now a lot of reactive dogs tend to get little to no exposure because of those behaviors. I visited many different areas and exposed the dog to many different environments. I did all of this to help the dog generalize that I expect him to behave all the time no matter where we were at. Toward the end of his training, I had already introduced the E-collar to him and when working on walking very close by to other dogs. 1 I Had already done a lot of desensitization with other dogs so the event of seeing another dog would not faze him. 2 Sometimes you run into dogs that are wild and lunge and bark, and the e-collar did and excelente job and getting the gsd to disengage and allow me to reinforce the behaviors I am expecting him to maintain. All of this took time and it wasn't now 10 minute session to fix. Also I don't even know exactly when everything clicked for him it just did. I can also tell you that my relationship with the dog had more in play with everything rather than the obedience work. Another thing I'd like to add is that the way your Carry yourself as a handler has an enormous impact on how your dog responds to many things. Obedience has a small part to do with everything. Your timing with the leash, when you use pressure, when to correct and when not to correct all those things are something you have to feel and it's something you gain over time While working with the dog and understanding what works best for it. All that time i invested in him created a lot of trust, respect and confidence in him. I can go on and on but it's not as simple as do this and that's it.
Its really a combo between positive reinforcement, E collar, and Prong Collar. my Aussie would literally drag me the entire time we were out on walks fighting against me and choking the fuck out of himself. until I got a prong collar and and brought treats with me for walks. now 95% of the time he will walk by my side, or walk slightly ahead of me with little pull. Watch American Standard Dog training to learn how to properly use a prong on your dog. Like any tool you need trust and positive reinforcement, there's a fine line between proper use and fucking abuse so train yourself before you start training the dog. All the best for you and your pup
@Ravi....... I love garret and everything he does but, yes when dealing with basic leash pulling and basic obidience that way is a quick way to make results. But when you are dealing with pretty bad behavioral issues like fear based reactivity, real dog aggresion and lack of exposure it requires relationship building and proper conditioning along with well timed corrections with great tools like the e-collar and Prong collar. You make it sound a little too simple and it is not and honeslty sometimes it does work to do it simple but in my experience when you have a dog that lacks a lot of confidence you have to be very careful.
@@Ravi....... my aussie doesn't give a shit about the prong collar. She'll yank till she yelps. Same with the e collar. Even at mid levels she can't be disuaded
@jackglockstar is your puppy basic trained? Like does it know your commands of come, sit, stay, down, all that jazz so it knows when you ask of something and it does it you reward with treats? I'm not a pro or anything dude so you'll have to try and adjust to best suit your dog, I'm just sharing what I did with my aussie and he was horrible like that would pull and react to every dog.. then some prong corrections backed with treats when he does listen really helped me. My dog has fears with loud sounds so when he starts to pull like a mad man cause a motorcycle reved past, I add some pressure in the opposite direction and add a verbal cue of like (dogs name) and come (a command he already understands) then I give him treats and pets to help calm him down. Like i want him to know nothings going to hurt him i guess... it's not perfect but it's night and day for me so I'll always advocate for proper prong training + treats
