Eliminating some bounce. Going with a firmer shock on the F450

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@BigTruckBigRV 5 лет назад

I can not say whether or not the Rancho RS9000XL shocks had entirely failed or not. I just know that they were not performing at the level they originally did. Having the heavier bumper with winch may have contributed to it. Perhaps the roads in Corpus Christi and during my time traveling through Louisiana to Panama City might have degraded their performance. I do believe that the 9000xl is still a great product and will continue using them on the back of my truck.

@kevindelk 5 лет назад

Have you thought about adding the bilstein steering dampener shock?

@Bwanar1 5 лет назад

Thought you were ordering Bilstein's for the rear, when you got back from your test drive?

@coreygilmore7073 4 года назад

Do you have a part # I can't seem to find these for a 2017 f450

@derekcomingo2197 3 года назад

perhaps

@ChrisPasteur 5 лет назад

I don't understand why Ford still chooses to use a Rancho spec on these trucks. I've never seen any positive reviews on a Rancho, and it's unfortunate that we have to spend additional money on a $70k+ truck to get a decent ride.

@cledussnow3935 5 лет назад

My ‘18 F350 FX4 doesn’t have them

@CR500R 5 лет назад

This is the first time I've seen BigTruckBigRV save money by re-using something! Very cool.

@alanpattee4383 5 лет назад

JD lose the background music PLEASE.. drowns out the conversation..I'm really want to here what this guy is saying. Great video

@philsalsbery9994 5 лет назад

Once again, another great video. After I bought my new 2017 RAM 3500 SRW, I replaced all 4 shocks with these same Bilstein 5100 units in 3 months in an effort to smooth out the ride some. Along with dropping the tire pressure to 65 psi in front and 50 psi in rear (while not towing) I have experienced a much better and controllable feel in the ride. I do a lot of highway driving and the Bilsteins have mostly removed the washboard type vibration I felt with the factory shocks. I have not felt the need for the Sulastics, although I did do some further research on them after seeing your earlier video. Thanks!

@usafvet6766 5 лет назад

Hey you are so Lucky to have such a great Truck Shop right Near you. ! Awesome. 🇺🇸

@Triton186 5 лет назад

Exactly what I have experienced with multiple Ranch shocks on different trucks. I run bilstein only and they always perform well and hold up.

@roseandmiron 5 лет назад

Hey boss thank you for that video, I really really appreciate all of the info that you give us on your videos and has helped me tremendously on making decisions for things that I want after I watch your demonstrations.. I knew that will sign was going to be the shock that I really wanted but this just confirms after I seen the Fail on those ranchos .. I have done tons of research and came up with the bill Stein speaking on top for exactly what you said that was, everyday driving but a supreme superior shock over above the Rest, And I had already talked to a guy about the Fox and found out exactly what he explained to you. But when he did that test of compressing both of those shocks right there on the video that confirmed how much I really appreciate that bill Stein shock it was told to me through bill Stein company that they were a solid good company for this kind of quality...So thank you very much for everything you do and show us in your Videos, it means a lot to me brother..

@jnuechte 5 лет назад

As he said you are comparing apples to oranges. Fox and Rancho are more linear to progressive. Bilstein are digressive shocks. Progressive allows oil to pass easily at slow speeds, and more difficult at high speeds. Digressive are the opposite in that slow speeds the oil passes slowly and easily at high speeeds. Digressive is the "european" feel. Not to say your Ranchos were not breaking down, but the comparison you showed was showing the difference in digressive vs. progressive shocks, not really much else. Link to an article that explains this a bit: accutuneoffroad.com/articles/digressive-vs-linear-vs-progressive-pistons-shock-valving/

@thebulltoo2875 5 лет назад

Just learned a lot. Thanks.

@sixshooter4570 5 лет назад

Never knew the difference, but I love my Bilsteins shocks on my F150 4 x 4 Supercrew.

@pilotnelson4507 5 лет назад

"speed" is relative to movement of the shock as it travels in and out of the shaft's range of motion. Many people think it is relative to vehicle speed... nope. Pushing down on a shock by hand means absolutely nothing. Only a shock testing machine, Like at Race Tech and other professional suspension component design facilities can really test fluid dynamics. The book, "The Motorcycle Suspension Bible," does a great job looking at several different types of shocks and they way they flow fluids.

@d.pollard5962 5 лет назад

Definitely gonna go a different route on my 06 F350. Thanks great info

@jmjbedpa 5 лет назад

Thanks for the video. Awesome. More than likely I may go with the Fox shocks. Will be towing a 44 foot DRV fifth wheel trailer.

@andyradlgruber5315 5 лет назад

Great video, thanks. I have a 2011F350 and drive about 3,000 Km each month on Canadian highways for work. Every 14 days I make a longer trip to get to work and then back home and there is a section of road that is about 125Km long and is just brutal. My steering wheel was wobbling about 1/2"-1" over the smallest cracks in the road and the suspension would bottom out on the big ones. I'll add I had 5100's in the rear and 9000's in the front. I had enough and decided to replace them, but with the same products. Turns out one 5100 was leaking badly, though still worked alright, and one 9000 was shot. The others were not terribly well off either but now that they're all replaced the truck rides like a dream again. Now I'm just waiting for the 9000's to fail again but by them I'm moving into a new 450.

@bobshroyer6792 5 лет назад

Great video - thanks!

@rudyreyes9763 3 года назад

The Bilstein is a monotube gas shock and Rancho is a twin tube gas shock. The Bilstein has a floating piston that divides the gas from the oil and runs a higher psi gas charge. The Rancho has the twin tube design. Low psi gas on the outside tube with oil on the inside tube. In order for a gas twin tube shock to work properly, it must be mounted in the proper orientation. That guy compressing the shocks had the Rancho upside down.

@DS-TRUCKS 5 лет назад

Bilstein has always made a great shock.

@chucknSC 5 лет назад

I guess that's why GM uses them OE.

@Shane75140 2 года назад

Yes they do and will make all the difference in the world on a Ram 3500 DRW!! Experienced it!!!!

@flat6targa 5 лет назад

Blisteins are great, my dads last set lasted 35 years.

@mitchf1508 5 лет назад

I've only got a 13 F150 Eco with MaxTow and put the Bilstein 5100's on the rear and they made such a difference I had to have the fronts done too. The F150 is more of a 'strut' style setup, so you have to compress the spring, but I still was able to do it in my garage.. Great overall shock imo.

@amulekmusser7346 5 лет назад

Appreciate your videos sir!

@thechroniclesofmaintenance4192 5 лет назад

For what it's worth... A few years back I had a set of Ranchos installed on the Ram 2500. Two months later the dealer/installer warrantied them with another set of Ranchos. Two months after that I had the dealer/installer put on a set of Bilsteins as the Ranchos failed again. I never had another problem after that. No off roading, just trailer towing, go figure...

@marcmmclellan 5 лет назад

I have a 2006 F250 with the same adjustable Rancho shocks. The truck, although the shocks have been on there for a while, drives very loosey goosey now. I think it’s time for new shocks! Great video!

@johnharrison1429 5 лет назад

I could see the hood rolling/bouncing when you pulled into the shop and could sort of tell where you were going with this video. Learned a lot from this video as usual. Thank you!

@willb3018 5 лет назад

Watched a couple of this guy's videos. I have no use for an F450 (or any big truck) but they are interesting to watch so I keep watching. While I don't have a use for such a truck, if I could afford a toy like that I would get one in heartbeat and figure out what to do with it later. LOL

@Youngmechanical 5 лет назад

I personally liked the fox 2.0 on my F-350 4 door long bed with a 4.5 inch lift. I usually had around 1000lbs of payload in the bed. I had a friend with the exact truck with Bilstein 5100. They leaked oil from the seal within one year. Just my 2 cents. Great channel by the way. I enjoy your videos. I am an avid RV'r as well

@sixshooter4570 5 лет назад

Love my Bilsteins on 2014 F150 4 x4 Supercrew.

@fattie2550 5 лет назад

I have the fox 2.0 on my Jeep Wrangler. I also have the adjustable 5100 on my Ram 1500. My opinion is that the fox are stiffer and handle better. I only went with the 5100 due to price because I leveled out my truck 2.1 inches in the front with the 5100s

@tufelhunden5795 5 лет назад

I add the Rancho with adjustable dampening and it made a huge difference. I no longer porpoise while towing the trailer. Plus rides very nice when not towing. Hope mine don't break in a year that will be disappointing.

@jabojr5171 5 лет назад

Great info, Merry Christmas you and your family.

@yougear100 5 лет назад

Finally. I couldn't believe it when you put on the Rancho 9000's. I put'em on my 91 f350 back in 91 and 21 Ford trucks later never look at them again. Old technology. Bilstien's are the way to go for what you do with it. I run'em on most of my towing trucks and light off road duty trucks. King shocks and Carli springs for the ultimate in off road performance.

@manuelfloressr.9039 5 лет назад

You can't test the performance of a shock absorber with a simple hand compression test without knowing the construction of the shock absorber. Also truck shock absorbers have a harder compression and extension resistance. Before deeming a good or bad shock absorber you need more data from test equipment not the force of a non mechanic, book reading person. I know that I am sounding like a troll but I am getting a little tired of bogus information in the internet. To all the readers and watchers beware.

@BigTruckBigRV 5 лет назад

I can test the performance of a shock based on its change in dampening over a period of a year though. I understand the purpose and function of a damper and know that compression and rebound mean very little. However, the resistance it provides means everything. These shocks were clearly losing their ability to resist/dampen the front suspension movement the way they were designed. Viewers beware of folks like this. :)

@justinstewart9840 4 года назад

Hey I just put the fox 2.0 with adjustable reservoir on my 2019 with 6300 miles. 1 test drive of 2 miles and can tell a difference! Easy install.

@spyderryder 5 лет назад

Not a big fan of Rancho Shocks bilstein's are so much better! Thank you for sharing!

@RktsledTv 5 лет назад

Glad for this video was about to buy some Rancho shocks

@Jason-oq1uz 5 лет назад

Thank you, great video. Can you do a review on your new tires and centramtic balancers. Thanks.

@Cjett07 5 лет назад

New subscriber!! And what a beauty of a truck that is!!

@TheRannMann 3 года назад

Had the same issues. The RS9000xls did great for the first 6 months... But went down hill fast. Just ordered the Bilstein 5100s

@fredslawson8128 5 лет назад

Please make sure to give these a 1 year review as well please.

@paulrodrigues9603 5 лет назад

Oh wow By the thumbnail I thought something "Ford" failed.

@DS-TRUCKS 5 лет назад

I was thinking the same thing!

@supertanker9681 5 лет назад

Well it has fmc on the shocks so technically it was

@paulrodrigues9603 5 лет назад

@@supertanker9681 Ford probably farms them out to a vendor. Companies like Tenneco make OEM shocks. Every outsourced part says Ford on them.

@supersami7748 5 лет назад

Simply put you’ll notice GM and Dodge both have gone to Fox. The 5100 is a good shock but it’s still one of their entry level shocks. Unless it’s a big buck sponsor you will find very very few people running Rancho in the off road community. Side note, I don’t claim to be an expert but have been involved in the business end of the off road sport since the early 70’s and just observing the last few years that Fox and King are the shock of choice be it off road or the 3/4 one ton pickups. Upper end Bilstein and Sway Away have a pretty good following also. Great vid.

@jacoblavender5766 5 лет назад

I agree, Fox are great. However, when you're talking offroad and one road HD work, that is very very different workloads. I keep seeing this where there is discussion about putting in really high end shocks that do terrific offroad onto HD trucks pulling 12/20/30,000 lbs+ down the road - that's just very different.

@onegoodturngetsmostofthebl7499 5 лет назад

You've had the current F450 for close to a year now. Probably a good idea to start looking at the 019s or anticipated new model in 2020. I anticipate seeing these bilsteins being transferred to your 2020 F450 in about six months.

@robertspivey46 5 лет назад

I gotta give those a try. My 2015 F450 with steel bed rides like a tank. I feel every crack in the road.

@bluecollarstudio8513 4 года назад

I was going to swap out my 5100s for Rancho 9000s based on your other video. This video just changed all that. I’ll stick w my bilsteins until I go Fox.

@1hasbeen531 5 лет назад

Never had any luck with Rancho shocks. Early failures, broken eyes, etc.

@derekcomingo2197 3 года назад

ive had good luck with KYB shocks in the past

@randybryant9936 5 лет назад

Seems like you should get more than a year out of those shocks

@pilotnelson4507 5 лет назад

"speed" is relative to movement of the shock as it travels in and out of the shaft's range of motion. Many people think it is relative to vehicle speed... nope. Pushing down on a shock by hand means absolutely nothing... unless your your shock or strut is totally shot.... Only a shock testing machine, Like at Race Tech and other professional suspension component design facilities can really test fluid dynamics. Driver feel plush, stiffer, spring rate, etc. mean a lot when doing this work. The book, "The Motorcycle Suspension Bible," does a great job looking at several different types of shocks and they way they flow fluids.

@timesup6386 5 лет назад

Bilistein are mono tube gas chamber @ 250psi KYB offers same for slightly less in Mono Max line. Rancho on factory are POS OEM.

@StoneysWorkshop 5 лет назад

I had a tire shop put coil over kit and rear shocks on my f150, they used napa parts. Biggest mistake ever. when I hit a bump it bounces for days

@KMT15 5 лет назад

I was about to order the 9000XL’s for my 450 Limited. Glad I didnt

@brianhoward438 5 лет назад

I have a 2017f350 King Ranch and put the Ranchos on after seeing your video,They were warranted 2 times in a year and are bad again.guess I will go back to the billstein shocks.way to much aggravation for shocks.

@JOVANI7919 5 лет назад

Can you please make a video on how to properly set up tow mirrors. I can never seem to get the convex mirror to show anything useful. Thanks!

@Blakep7704 4 года назад

I use kyb mono max for on road use for all my heavy duty trucks. By far the best shock for the application. I have all tried the Bilstiens 5100 and found that they are excellent in comfort and off road performance, just not good enough for me when hauling heavy like the KYB Mono Max. PS. if you think that Bilstien is difficult to compress, try the Mono max!!

@Weak_juan 5 лет назад

Good review. Dont forget bilstein shocks are lifetime warranty too.

@ludah99 5 лет назад

I got a 2014 Sierra with the ranchos with 75,000 on them and the ride is still good, maybe different versions then what the ford uses but no problems with mine.

@michaelburgess224 5 лет назад

Great video. I just purchased a 2018 F350. Could you do a video on the door recall for the Ford trucks . Doors will not shut below 30 degrees ...I've taking my truck 3 times to dealership and whatever they are doing doesn't work . 6000 miles on it and can't drive it when it's cold out and I live in Ohio . Thanks, Happy Holidays

@joebrown3393 5 лет назад

Running fox 2.0 with adjustable reservoir all the way around on my F450. I like them.

@connorhenley3782 3 года назад

Did it firm up your ride?

@ninersforlife7682 5 лет назад

Good video. I hope you like your bilstein's. I put Fox shocks on my F450 and I love them but I like a firmer ride myself.

@mexikanox1118 2 года назад

How are they on towing do you have the ones with the Reservoir

@ninersforlife7682 2 года назад

@@mexikanox1118I don't have that truck any more but they did worked great on towing and yes I did

@mexikanox1118 2 года назад

Where they the 2.0 I’m gonna go rod then

@RobertKohut 5 лет назад

Nice!!

@MyTubeUser321 5 лет назад

This pretty much mirrors my experience with Rancho shocks and the reason why I'll never buy Rancho again. I've had a good experience with Bilstein and Fox.

@michaelthompson3679 2 года назад

I wish I had seen this before I just had the rancho’s installed

@ricwestdoesitwork 5 лет назад

At least you had a pair of front shocks to replace the factory ones.

@markduncan2226 5 лет назад

Have you pulled your trailer over a 8% grade ? Mine pull it up it 65 dropped 1 green went down hill 65 it held it 65 . The best f250 I've had.

@jerryknorr679 5 лет назад

I have ranchos on my 2016 F350 75,000 miles on her and she is handling like crap , I will look in to the shocks. Thanks for that info

@MichaelSmith-kr9qw 5 лет назад

Rancho shocks used to be really good before they got bought out by Monroe !!! Their quality went way down when Monroe purchased Rancho. I run a set of Bilstein Hotchkis TVS shocks on my 99 Dakota these are specially tuned shocks for the Hotchkis suspension system they used to sell for the Dakota and mine are over 12 years old and still going strong to this day. No signs of leaking or even wear for that matter.

@cc3775 3 года назад

Maybe this is the issue I’m having. I just bought a 2014 f450. Coming home on the interstate I would hit some not so smooth portions. The truck would start bouncing like crazy!

@danharris5873 5 лет назад

Wow I wish I had your money to spend on my trucks! I got 60,000 on my truck in the original shocks still seem fine! Love your vids though keep it going.

@stacyreid5077 5 лет назад

Sorry to be so late commenting but you forgot that you did drive across Louisiana on I-10 with those Rancho's. Now with being said I live in Louisiana on a ranch where I do tend to bounce around in my 3500 4x4 dually with a Cummins and I run Rancho 5000 and they've been on here over a year and still seem in good shape plus I pull a 40' gooseneck loaded with 28 rolls of hay and across the pasture too. Which shocks would you use.

@moremilesmorememories2240 5 лет назад

This along with front end steering dampener should fix my 2019 F350 DRW 6.7 Turbo Diesel FX4 front end issues. What rear shock are you suggesting

@jasonpereira4544 5 лет назад

I love the bilsteins on my tacoma, but the finish on them in the rust belt is crap within a year. I need to clean them and clear coat them when i have a chance. I have a 6112/5160 setup on my 13 tacoma

@grumpy1311 5 лет назад

Great info in this video! Even better that I have a set of Bilstein shocks sitting here waiting to install on my '18 Chevy !

@perecarl12 3 года назад

I just installed the rancho 9000 in the rear of my dually. I wonder if I could run the bilstein 5100's in the front and keep the rancho's in the back.

@akbychoice 5 лет назад

I have to wonder how much the heat in TX plays a roll in the life of the shocks. I don’t have that issue on my 2016, still on factory shocks.

@pilotnelson4507 5 лет назад

Relative air temperature doesn't mean much... it is how hot the shock gets from friction of fluid dynamics and parts rubbing on each other. A wasted shock will overheat fast and cause any gases trapped in the shock to expand and effect the ability of the device to perform properly. Same problem with brake fluid....

@akbychoice 5 лет назад

pilot nelson, I agree with this partially only because in a hot environment items heat up quicker to begin with.

@jnmaher1967 4 года назад

How about the Sumo on the front and back and shocks?

@terminatordill6797 5 лет назад

My Bilsteins are 16 year's old and still going strong 02 Toyota Tundra

@kevinscott9983 5 лет назад

Just bough and installed the Rancho 9000 on my ram 2500 wish you would have done 6 month review hope mine last longer. Love the ride on low settings empty, very happy home warranty helped out in your situation?

@TimKaeb 5 лет назад

My ram came stock with billstien shocks 👍👍

@MCZCOKE 5 лет назад

Toyota Tundra TRD uses Bilstein 4600’s as the factory shock, never had a customer complaint. 👍

@kylevanwinkle2081 5 лет назад

The 4600 line is great for halfton trucks all makes. The 5100 line is made for more weight or more rough use such as offroad

@tundrabasser 3 года назад

I’m sure the bilstein stiffened the ride up. They were uncomfortable as h@ll on my 2017 f250 I ripped them off 3 months in and bought the Rancho 9000xls on and love them. I’ll never buy bilstein again. One of the bilstein 5100’s would get to hot to touch on the front just going down the highway also. First and last time to buy them.

@tater0909 5 лет назад

Is the oil pan on your truck plastic? Seen lots of those 6.7's that have them

@lawrencewilliamson3303 5 лет назад

It looks like in the one pic your front tires are starting to scrub off a bit on the inside lug? My toyo,s. Are doing this on my 2016 F450 . I’m waiting to hear back from toyo rep

@nate4036 5 лет назад

Lawrence Williamson my Toyo 608s only lasted 18k. I was running 245s on stock wheels though. That was their excuse for them not lasting. I believe I got a bad set. They were extremely soft and never stopped squirming around. But they did whatever you asked of them on the job site.

@commercialelectrician133 5 лет назад

will the ones you have for the back fit 2007 f250 rear wheel drive

@mattjohnson3140 5 лет назад

My 2016 f-450 could use a new rear pair of Bilstine shocks. Will yours be going up for sail?

@Superduty4me 5 лет назад

That Rancho probably wasn't designed for that added weight of your bumper. That's like driving around with a snow plow on.

@BigTruckBigRV 5 лет назад

could be true. plus the winch

@DS-TRUCKS 5 лет назад

Good point!

@MYTOYMAKERZ 5 лет назад

Just curious you mentioned about a year but how many miles do they have on them? I have been curious also because like someone else mentioned your front tires seem to be showing wear but cameras play tricks on us. Thank You

@ronaldspins 5 лет назад

@7:12 Joey now has lower back problems!!! Just kidding what a great sport to be in your video. Bet Rancho used some Chinese components , before Ranchos big production move bet they were all American made parts.

@Mr.J345 5 лет назад

Did you ever find the part numbers for the 17 rear 5100s?

@jasonlarsen3515 5 лет назад

It’s how they handle the heat is what’s important. Use a temp gun when testing

@ryanmartinage 5 лет назад

Use a bottle jack with the shocks. Makes it fairly easy.

@kylevanwinkle2081 5 лет назад

This guy is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I'm 135lbs and a small frame. I easily put my 5100s on my 3500hd. They compress just as easily but they are slower to compress where the ranchos compress faster. It's just how the valving works. On the bilstiens they are right for even the smallest bump where the ranchos are loose and only get tight if compressed almost fully like if you are offroading

@LeeSims-jt9dh 6 месяцев назад

Question BTBR, Bilstein doesn't show p/n's for 5100 series for 2017 f450. What did you use?

@mr.manson1195 5 лет назад

I usually go through shocks every few months. But my trucks doesn't really go on the highway.

@whiteandnerdytuba 5 лет назад

Is it just your truck or what, I don't ever see shocks at rest on mine with the boot compressed so far.

@robertenriquez6523 5 лет назад

I have a 2016 F350 king ranch DRW. I tow a gooseneck with backhoe. Towing just under 35,000 lbs would Bilstein 5100 Series work for me? Or what’s your opinion. I’m also putting air lift airbags ultimate 5000 soon.

@royallen9698 5 лет назад

You should check out Fox shocks.

@BigTruckBigRV 5 лет назад

used them on my other trucks. Way too firm for my liking.

@royallen9698 5 лет назад

Great to know and thanks. 🤠

@Mr.J345 5 лет назад

Does anyone know shock part numbers for 17 f450?

@sosc25 5 лет назад

Will these fit on 2019 F450? What would be the rear shock part number?

@danielsanders243 5 лет назад

Planning to look at trading my 16 Denali 3500 for a Ford 350 or 450. How is the fuel economy on the 450 with the 4.30 gears? I didn’t see optional gears on the 450. My 3500 is 3.73 I believe, and it gets good mileage

@alsolano1801 4 года назад

Bilstein doesn’t offer a rear shock for a F 450 2019 what did you do?

@AC-Cowboy41 3 года назад

Hey, I know this is a few years old, could you post an update? And which size did you install on the rears? Thanks. Late commer to your page. Fabulous job!

@BigTruckBigRV 3 года назад

I've been very happy with them

@AC-Cowboy41 3 года назад

@@BigTruckBigRV Thank you sir. Could you tell me what Bilsteins went into the rear?

@Shane75140 2 года назад

How’s the front tires wearing? Time doesn’t matter it’s the mileage on the shocks….