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ELITE CATAPHRACT vs EVERY UNIQUE UNIT | AoE II: Definitive Edition 

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The Cataphract is the unique unit of the Byzantines in Age of Empires II. It is a heavy cavalry unit that excels at combat against infantry.
Cataphracts can be upgraded to Elite Cataphracts in the Imperial Age.
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@aurelian3268
@aurelian3268 4 года назад
infantry: challenges Cataphract Cataphract : so you have chosen......death...
@adamdd09
@adamdd09 4 года назад
Cataphracts have bonus attack against infantry. Goths get slaughtered.
@yoyodude-aoe2726
@yoyodude-aoe2726 Год назад
@@adamdd09 goth lack last melee armour. So their halb dies in 2 hits from Cataphract compared to 3 of generic halb, making them very bad
@Chokoboh
@Chokoboh 3 года назад
I've never seen Teutonic Knights get deleted that fast xD
@tankofnova9022
@tankofnova9022 2 года назад
How were the cataphracts even doing damage at all? 14 attack vs 13 armor!
@redryder3721
@redryder3721 2 года назад
@@tankofnova9022 They have a bonus v infantry
@Hardcore_Remixer
@Hardcore_Remixer 2 года назад
@@tankofnova9022 There are 3 melee unique units which deal extra damage to them. Cataphracts, Jaguar Warriors and Samurai (Bonus damage againdt unique units).
@ArmaDino22
@ArmaDino22 25 дней назад
@@redryder3721 plus trample damage
@markesssssss
@markesssssss 4 года назад
For those kinds of tests it is also useful to use equal ammounts of resources instead of just equal ammounts of units. 20 karambits won't do anything against 20 Cataphracts but you could afford almost 70 karambits for the price of 20 cataphracts (talking purely about the ammounts of resources used).
@ejga
@ejga 4 года назад
Yes, Cataphracts are just not viable in most scenarios because of the insane cost of the elite upgrade and splash damage tech. Also the unit itself is expensive. But the Karambit example is not so good because I think those 70 units would still get slaughtered by the splash damage lol
@MikeEmpires
@MikeEmpires 4 года назад
I’ll make a separate series for this version. Great idea.
@VJnarcoticvizion
@VJnarcoticvizion 4 года назад
70 karambits still wont do anyhting to cataphracts.... But to die
@Mattstafford2009
@Mattstafford2009 4 года назад
Yes! If he did one with war elephant its a little pointless doing 20 war elephants vs 20 of anything
@Zhongda95
@Zhongda95 4 года назад
This counts for every one of the tests that he's done. I suppose they are for mostly entertainment reasons and shouldn't be taken seriously as counters by anyone because these tests have nothing to do with real game situations. Missile units are not supposed to stand idle against melee and some results would be different if they were micromanaged, as they are supposed to be played. Needless to say, any comparison with elephants in equal numbers makes the elephants look ridiculously op of course, while most of them are actually some of the worst units in the game. If they were compared in terms of equal costs, of course the results would have been completely different. Even if the elephants come out alive from most engagements, it is still a matter of cost effectiveness.
@Hamanuna
@Hamanuna 4 года назад
In summary, the Cataphract is good against infantry and some anti cavalry units, but they struggle against ranged and bulky units
@Kaletris
@Kaletris 4 года назад
They negate the bonus dmg cavalry would get from counters
@yowut8075
@yowut8075 4 года назад
anti anti cavalry cavalry
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 года назад
@@yowut8075 *_Ah, I see you're a man of Spirit as well._* ;)
@yowut8075
@yowut8075 4 года назад
@@MrDibara SOTL plagiarized me tbqh :'(
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 года назад
@@yowut8075 *_No one can plagiarize a meme, mister. That's why it's a "meme"._*
@jonkoxl2069
@jonkoxl2069 4 года назад
awesome, byzantines used to be my favorite civ when i was young
@MikeEmpires
@MikeEmpires 4 года назад
Mine, too. Beautiful walls, right? Defensive civilization.
@jonkoxl2069
@jonkoxl2069 4 года назад
@@MikeEmpires yes indeed, strongest houses as well lolol
@budwyzer77
@budwyzer77 4 года назад
"The Byzantines can train every unit in Age of Kings! They've GOT to be good!"
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 3 года назад
@SOUDATH No house! Yeah!
@jean-gisele295
@jean-gisele295 2 года назад
Me too ! A lots of units and tech, paladin, catacrapht, champion and camel cavalry, everything i loved as a child ! Also very good castler and GunTower (i don't know exactly the word in english)
@user-lf1zl5rg4f
@user-lf1zl5rg4f 4 года назад
against cavalry 4/10 against archer 7/10 against infantry 20/10
@Neon-Lines
@Neon-Lines 2 года назад
not good vs Archers, lacking Bloodlines AND 2 pierce armour compared to Paladin, also have less HP
@dogg-paws
@dogg-paws 2 года назад
@@Neon-Lines Trample damage and good overall stats would put Cataphracts over archers under most circumstances
@Neon-Lines
@Neon-Lines 2 года назад
@@dogg-paws not in high skilled games I dont think
@LegendKingY2j
@LegendKingY2j Год назад
@@dogg-paws do you realize these cavalry archers are standing still and not moving around? also that no one in reality would challenge 20 cataphracts with 20 foot archers?, this is why these comparison videos are highly inaccurate, considering that many of these units use micro and even use other units as cover or support
@murtazaahmed8336
@murtazaahmed8336 3 года назад
Cataphract exists: Infantry: My time has come
@viktorianas
@viktorianas 4 года назад
Teutonic Knights: surprised Pikachu face.
@pythemistoklesstravunin1645
@pythemistoklesstravunin1645 4 года назад
Moral of the story: never send your infantry against cataphracts...
@pythemistoklesstravunin1645
@pythemistoklesstravunin1645 4 года назад
My favourite unit ever! The second one is maybe the Konnik, which I think the cataphracts could have beaten with some micromanagement against AI. Go Romans!
@TMoDDD
@TMoDDD 4 года назад
More like never send your castle units agaisnt cataphracts.
@dan-lee
@dan-lee 4 года назад
@@TMoDDD no.. cataphracts only have bonus attack vs infantry. When the Civilization unique unit is a cavalry they are equal. But Samurai have bonus to other unique unit..
@adamdd09
@adamdd09 4 года назад
@@dan-lee and do well against foot archers too I have discovered
@halneufmille
@halneufmille 4 года назад
Other moral of the story: never send your cataphracts against elephants...
@SlyNine
@SlyNine 4 года назад
That trample damage really adds up in some battles.
@TMoDDD
@TMoDDD 4 года назад
They re the terror of castle units.
@alaapsarkar
@alaapsarkar 4 года назад
War wagons and elephant archers were surprisingly good.
@Alecabreraoficial
@Alecabreraoficial 4 года назад
And letis
@manupainkiller
@manupainkiller 4 года назад
War Wagons are awfully broken in this game. Way too tanky !
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
@@manupainkiller pretty easy to flatten with heavy siege tho, got a nice big hitbox and their pathing is clunky. Still agree that in most matchups, when you get critical mass it can be difficult to deal with.
@manupainkiller
@manupainkiller 4 года назад
@@Real_MisterSir I have nightmares with them...reminds me of aoe1 chariot archers.
@Leonykf
@Leonykf 3 года назад
Coz the range armour is not high and trample damage is less effective against bigger units
@NomanJohan
@NomanJohan 4 года назад
*Elite Cataphract with blast furnace and bloodlines is the best unit in the game.* - Fastest attack rate - Virtually no weakness
@weswolverine
@weswolverine Год назад
War elephant joins chat
@suyash5608
@suyash5608 4 года назад
10:35 lmao 111
@lone5463
@lone5463 4 года назад
What does 111 mean? I've always wondered.
@catrielmarignaclionti4518
@catrielmarignaclionti4518 4 года назад
@@lone5463 11 is the laughing taunt IG so, when yo spam "1" is for the laugh
@lucianokozak7562
@lucianokozak7562 4 года назад
Love their Cavalry Powerfull defences Its very expensive to upgrade everything tho... Constantinopla`s mission was complicated... reminds me of the Trojans somehow
@Rainbow_Taxi_1A
@Rainbow_Taxi_1A 4 года назад
Very interesting video. Props to you man ! Victories - Against Infantry : Melted them (Bonus damage + surrounding with Logistica...no contest there) - Against Ranged units (on foot and cavalry) : Won due to Logistica (trample damage) because the AI just stood there firing without any micro (not realistic though)... Conquistadors, Kipchaks, Mangudai pleasantly called my attention. - Also surprising : Winning against camels (Mameluks, Imperial Camels, though Mameluks was close). Defeats (only 7 if I counted correctly) - Bulky units : War Elephants, Archer Elephants, Ballista Elephants, War Wagons - Stronger Cavalry (on stats) : Boyars, Leitis, Konniks.
@Devoratrix
@Devoratrix 4 года назад
Cataphracts have a secret resistance to bonus cavarly damage such as from pikes and camels and what not
@Tpoleful
@Tpoleful 4 года назад
@@Devoratrix They are one of the few units that don't have any hard counters. Only soft counters. This makes them solid unit for new players.
@Fawlker
@Fawlker 4 года назад
TBF, they only lost to Konniks because you have to kill them twice, lmao xD!
@sniperloic2904
@sniperloic2904 4 года назад
@@Fawlker And 1st they are mounted so no help from their design.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
@@Devoratrix Did you know that Logistica not only gives them +5 trample damage, but also an extra +6 base damage vs infantry? It's often quite overlooked, but in groups it can make them oneshot Militia, which is quite something to think about :D
@Datacross
@Datacross 4 года назад
Elephant archers commander: ready to shoot! Unknown soldier: sir can we just hit them?
@KareemEltouny
@KareemEltouny 3 года назад
at 1:53 : "Reform the line! Reform the line! Take them head on, CHARGE!"
@Minstrel2009
@Minstrel2009 3 года назад
The trample damage is soo insane
@matthiasvandekerkhove3594
@matthiasvandekerkhove3594 4 года назад
A lot of horses died that day...
@qualitycontentchannel4443
@qualitycontentchannel4443 3 года назад
just realized mixing few cataphracts into a few paladins would be a much better counter to Bulgarian unit rather than halbs, since they dismount.
@midosch7639
@midosch7639 3 года назад
If you have the resources go ahead. But two fucking expensive elite upgrades isnt a good idea in most cases.
@joansena3056
@joansena3056 Год назад
Teutonic knight: I fear no man . But that thing ..... It scared me .
@Snakie747
@Snakie747 4 года назад
Ah these videos. Tricking us into thinking elephant archers are a good unit since 2020.
@Der_Befraier
@Der_Befraier 4 года назад
More than the unique units . Age of empires gives us enjoyment along with knowledge.
@gianfries
@gianfries 3 года назад
Wiped out by Boyars & Elephant units 😯
@luonghuy4562
@luonghuy4562 4 года назад
One of the strongest unit in history of AoK.
@lightingman117
@lightingman117 4 года назад
I like these videos! Suggestion, put the unit name on the video while fighting; new players (and myself) don't necessarily know what it is they are fighting. Also, turn bloom off, everyone hates bloom. Also, for funsies a counter of wins vs losses (Elite Cataphract 1:0, 2:0, 3:1, etc vs Other Units)
@victor5949
@victor5949 3 года назад
Same here
@BasileusHorus
@BasileusHorus 9 месяцев назад
8:02 so you dare to rebel against me, son?! You better know your place! 😊
@alexandervladimirov9874
@alexandervladimirov9874 2 года назад
The irony is that halberdiers have bonus attack against Cavalry, but the cataphracts also have a bonus against infantry, such as halberdiers. So it is a who kills who contest.
@m3gusta17
@m3gusta17 2 года назад
Cataphracts also have massive innate resistance to anti-cavalry attacks; regular Cataphracts have a hidden +12 armor vs. anti-cavalry bonus damage, and Elite Cataphracts have +16, negating half of a Halberdier's bonus.
@bluenicholasbf2142
@bluenicholasbf2142 2 года назад
I was totally not expecting cataphract to win against mameluke, then I remembered the 'reduced bonus damage' thingy
@burtreynolds4577
@burtreynolds4577 4 года назад
Thanks for this great video, grettings and please Gbetos vs Janissaries :)
@Vargskinn
@Vargskinn 4 года назад
Didn't expect them to lose to War Wagons, on the other hand the beat the Kamayuks in no time. Didn't expect that to be as one-sided as it turned out to be.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
The Kamayuks' entire bonus dmg is being negated, but on the other hand when fighting in a group, the Cataphracts each deal 40 total damage per hit (with Logistica), whereas the Kamayuks only deal 8 (or 16 if two are hitting same target at once). It's no competition.
@alimirza851
@alimirza851 3 года назад
Cataphract are formidable unit, with assist from ranged unit (cavalry archer)
@eudf
@eudf 3 года назад
No Persian elephants were hurt during the making of this video.
@default2591
@default2591 2 года назад
Strong unit indeed, the only bonus damage they take is from Halberdiers (+16) and Samurai (+10).
@claudehopper6192
@claudehopper6192 Год назад
Hardest units to beat in the game IMO. You need to counter with bulky, hard hitting, cavalry or bulk hard hitting cavalry archers. Not every civ has these options available.
@danielkadrmas9484
@danielkadrmas9484 4 года назад
Elephants too strong i just love elephant units and i feel so bad when they die
@adwans1491
@adwans1491 4 года назад
Elephants arent too strong
@dan-lee
@dan-lee 4 года назад
Elephants weakness is cheap infantry, a Halberdier..
@michaelstekelenburg3689
@michaelstekelenburg3689 4 года назад
Can’t afford massive amount of elephants entire game. That’s the weakness 🤷🏻‍♂️
@michaelstekelenburg3689
@michaelstekelenburg3689 4 года назад
Cataphracts are one of my fav unit, excellent against any infantry. But expansive, missing attack, not heavily armored as they look. Paladins even heavy cavalries are better option in general conditions.
@IammAdriian
@IammAdriian 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing man, we appreciate all the videos you do
@bradenscott2
@bradenscott2 3 года назад
War elephant: I fear no man...or horse.
@Pandadude-eg9li
@Pandadude-eg9li 4 года назад
ERE wins most battles!
@AotO_DJ
@AotO_DJ 11 месяцев назад
The Byzantines theme song you hear is actually the lament of your entire army upon seeing their Cataphracts marching against you. Seriously though, these guys are no joke.
@jasmeenahamed9531
@jasmeenahamed9531 3 года назад
only war elephant can stop this powerful unit
@maheudedepardieu4420
@maheudedepardieu4420 3 года назад
Are those both units fully upgraded? Very rich and beautiful content btw
@primmus1
@primmus1 4 года назад
interesting that teutonic knights lost . . . . thought they were beasts in an engagement like that . . . . plus is this test equal numbers or equal resources?
@MikeEmpires
@MikeEmpires 4 года назад
Equal numbers. 15 vs 15 in all.
@tomsawyerisme
@tomsawyerisme 4 года назад
Splash damage ignores armor
@perrytran9504
@perrytran9504 4 года назад
Bonus damage is a separate damage class from the regular melee and pierce damage. So the huge bonus elite cataphracts get against infantry (+12!) completely ignores the TK's melee armor.
@Asterix958
@Asterix958 4 года назад
@@perrytran9504 with its tech bonus damage increase 6. Total bonus damage of Cataphract is 18 against infantries.
@michaelstekelenburg3689
@michaelstekelenburg3689 4 года назад
Bonus attack vs infantry
@carlosgarciareche6764
@carlosgarciareche6764 3 года назад
I don't agree with people who says that this battles have no sense. In the end, we have a (standard) limit of population where 110-120 (or more or less) is army so, in maps where resources wouldn't be a problem like Arena, BW (I use the Spanish version so I don't know other map names) you have to face the enemy's army against yours at max population. At least in 2 or 3 great battles, you will use your elite or the units you think better they're going to fight in these concrete circumstances against the enemies' ones. However, I agree with the fact of facing 20 cataphracts vs 20 karambits have no sense. In population numeric terms, it would be fair using 40 karambits obviously. So I still think that these videos are useful to obtain a comprehensive view of what units are stronger or better suitable to combat others outside the economic context. It would be more realistic to make a statistic about more number of fights, but, when one side beats with a difference of 4, 5 or more men alive, normally it always win. I've tested it in simulations bofore discovering this channel. PS, excuse my English. Good wars everyone!
@Fawlker
@Fawlker 4 года назад
Long ago i had a friend who used to play as Franks, and he would yell everytime: I have the best cavalry in the game! Me, a Bizantine player: Bitch, please!
@matiasrisso5917
@matiasrisso5917 4 года назад
Go mass Cataphracts vs mass French Paladins and see how it goes ;)
@michaelstekelenburg3689
@michaelstekelenburg3689 4 года назад
You don’t know a lot about this game do you?
@dharkardewashish3274
@dharkardewashish3274 Год назад
Those cataphracts pack quite the punch
@masterpc-9845x
@masterpc-9845x 3 года назад
The Karambits became dust within a second xD
@elsidsadiku2091
@elsidsadiku2091 3 года назад
Very nice video. That's the reason I love the cataphracts, in combination with pikeman no unit has a chance. Can you do a video of same nature but with Age of Stainless Steel mod?
@grieverreaver6951
@grieverreaver6951 2 года назад
Cataphract is my favorite unit but it's armor is weaker than one might expect.
@Protosteos
@Protosteos 4 года назад
I've been playing with cataphracts against halabardiers and I saw that they take more damage than they used to. I think that they were slightly nerfed.I remember that those things could destroy any army. What is happening?
@lucasdeliens
@lucasdeliens 4 года назад
Halebardiers get extra damage angainst cavalery. It always been like that
@TheRealSomeone92
@TheRealSomeone92 4 года назад
You properly fought against Pikemen, not Halberdiers before. The Pikeman's bonus damage against cavalierly (+22) is hardly enough to get through the Cataphract's bonus armor against it (+12 / +16 elite). The Halberdier does enough bonus damage (+32) to bypass that extra armor so they kill them fairly quickly.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
@@TheRealSomeone92 Yep. It's still a fine trade tho, as the Cataphracts (fully upgraded) will deal a total of 40 dmg per hit (without blacksmith upgrades), whereas the Pikemen each deal 22 dmg per hit. So as long as you have gold and enough castles to replenish forces, the trades are almost always worth it vs Halbs - as long as you aren't massively outnumbered.
@SorbeteDeFresaAOE2
@SorbeteDeFresaAOE2 4 года назад
Biz FTW
@pablolongobardi7240
@pablolongobardi7240 4 года назад
Nice video, if you would put the numbers , the name of enemy units and how many of which survives, you would become a yt hit!
@alezthermasnaky
@alezthermasnaky 4 года назад
Byzantines are the best civilization
@adwans1491
@adwans1491 4 года назад
For Noobs yes
@alezthermasnaky
@alezthermasnaky 4 года назад
Adwans I meant in history too lmao
@SirPraiseSun
@SirPraiseSun 3 года назад
hell yes Byzantine is awesome
@da8874
@da8874 2 года назад
I really like how Cataphracts use gambesons and chainmail. They're not very good against arrows and it's reflected in the unit's stats
@et34t34fdf
@et34t34fdf 4 года назад
Cataphracts are great pop-wise, fully upgraded they are expensive though. If you account for cost, im not so sure they even beat samurais.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 года назад
Not gonna lie, the Samurais' damage kinda surprised me. I thought the Cataphracts were gonna negate their bonus, but apperantly it wasn't enough. Imagine more Samurais being on the battlefield, the tables would turn real fast!
@et34t34fdf
@et34t34fdf 4 года назад
@@MrDibara Then again, there is no need for the japanese to use samurais against cataphracts, they have the best halberdier vs cavalry, they will grind the cataphracts down.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 года назад
@@et34t34fdf True. Granted, they'd dig A LOT of graves for all those poor Halbs, but they would eventually beat them. (and with no loss of gold, what a practical solution!) 😊😈
@et34t34fdf
@et34t34fdf 4 года назад
@@MrDibara Its true that Cataphracts will cut them down, but its still a good counter, just make sure to have enough barracks. Pikes and camels does not counter cataphracts though, you need halbs.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 года назад
@@et34t34fdf Well, it's like I said. No gold cost, means you can constantly spam them. Thus, you _will_ send a lot of them to their graves, BUUUUT you will also have overcome the Cataphracts by them. Yeah, Pikes and Camels don't have enough bonus anti-cav damage to overcome the Cataphract's ridiculous negation. *(Cataphracts: negating your attack bonuses since 1999)*
@omniminokyo2
@omniminokyo2 3 года назад
Teutonic Knight need some speed buff
@EN19MA_627
@EN19MA_627 Год назад
eeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEE Teutonic knights: Why am I hearing a boss music?
@atharvaphatak5681
@atharvaphatak5681 2 года назад
Wow they defeat keshiks!!!
@Byzantine_Monk
@Byzantine_Monk 3 года назад
The Persians are coming. Send the monks!
@gdan7258
@gdan7258 Год назад
The Spanish missionary would do great job
@yowut8075
@yowut8075 4 года назад
I once hooked up with a Byzantine girl on tinder. How was she? Raw man
@daydodog
@daydodog 4 года назад
i do not get it
@compagnobrigante7970
@compagnobrigante7970 4 года назад
@@daydodog Raw man --> Roman
@daydodog
@daydodog 4 года назад
@@compagnobrigante7970 oh right of course
@jonkoxl2069
@jonkoxl2069 4 года назад
She ended up getting ... by the turks?
@NowhereMan7
@NowhereMan7 4 года назад
I dont get it even after the explanation lol. Cos what do you mean by "raw"? If someone asks what someone was like has anyone in the world ever replied: "raw"? Or is this some new slang i don't know about.
@bap333
@bap333 4 года назад
Did Byzantine get some buff after DE version? Imperial camel lose against catapract?
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
Nope, it's just that they have their hidden cavalry armor of +16, and the Imp camels "only" do +18 vs cavalry. So in reality, the Imp camels end up doing +2 dmg vs the Cataphracts, and the Catas have higher base stats and also the trample damage which effectively adds +10 dmg per hit when fighting in groups. Any anti-cav unit is gonna get rolled vs Cataphracts, that's just the nature of how they work.
@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm
@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm 3 года назад
I'll say they beat everything but elephants and camels (they're anti cav, aren't they?).
@quym373
@quym373 2 года назад
If you want to win those calvaries, dont walk on foot.
@jonathanlangford4291
@jonathanlangford4291 4 года назад
Don't rush into a fight with 20 Elite War Elephants...got it
@OguzOlgunDev
@OguzOlgunDev 3 года назад
it is a sad story; Being aztecks against byzintines in imperial age.
@johnfcthree1707
@johnfcthree1707 3 года назад
is this with or without logistica?
@DT-im1dp
@DT-im1dp 3 года назад
Wow they actually won against imp camel
@Edelweiss1102
@Edelweiss1102 2 года назад
Cataphracs ignore the bonus damage of Camels, that's why
@serhaterdemkorkmaz
@serhaterdemkorkmaz 2 года назад
I think it would be better if you also put Paladin to the unit list
@anastasiosliagkris576
@anastasiosliagkris576 3 года назад
East Roman Badasses.. Together, we are unstoppable.. Take heed, or pay the price of being trampled upon..
@kobitachetry3715
@kobitachetry3715 3 года назад
WAR ELEPHANTS: Never ever mess with me
@adamdd09
@adamdd09 4 года назад
Surprised they did well against cavalry units. Usually fare badly. Also with the mameluks having bonus attack against cavalry units. That said I can do a swell of damage with a group over upgraded cataphracts
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
Never use anti cavalry units vs Cataphracts. They negate 16 of the anti cavalry damage, so Mamelukes and Camels end up just doing the same damage as a Castle age Knight with basic upgrades.
@turkmagidoo2732
@turkmagidoo2732 2 года назад
These dudes also defeat camels somehow must be ignoring bonus damage.
@Edelweiss1102
@Edelweiss1102 2 года назад
They do actually. Only Hellbardiers and Samurai do bonus damage against them.
@dsxz
@dsxz 3 года назад
anti infantry cavalry vs anti cavalry infantry should be a close match, why do they still mow them over.. They destroy anti cavalry cavalry...which makes no sense they even destroy ranged cavalry which they have no bonuses against...these things are op
@MB-pc1xp
@MB-pc1xp 4 года назад
Maybe it's just me. But wouldn't it make a ton more sense to match them up against enemy comps that have the same unitcost and not the same head-count. Obviously they shit on all the cheap units.
@GeorgePerakis
@GeorgePerakis 3 года назад
Maybe. It would also make sense to take micro into consideration, give those ranged units some survivability. It would also make more sense to use a more balanced, far more likely unit composition that just 100% of whatever unit, like pairing the units in question with units the players playing the civs are likely to pair with them. So, let's pair elite cataphracts with cheap halberdiers and skirms that the Byzantine use a lot. Let's see some massacres. Elephants lose. All infantry loses. All cavalry loses. Ranged units lose.... Now, that would certainly be entertaining to watch. Also, while resources are important, there is such a thing as a unit cap, so population efficiency is also important. Bottom line? Don't let your opponent mass elite Cataphracts. It's not a fight you wanna have. Cataphracts are very expensive and difficult to mass because their only real counters are also expensive and hard to mass. Also most of their counters are a lot easier and cheaper to counter in turn.
@BirikinPrimary
@BirikinPrimary 2 года назад
Is it just me or i heard the ancient Cataphract saying : Nerf us ! We are broken !
@Elpadrino1407
@Elpadrino1407 Год назад
If you use logistics , cataphracts are even more powerful
@squatlebherz4434
@squatlebherz4434 3 года назад
Nice anti cavalry bonus you have there... would be a shame if someone were to... negate it
@ageofstrange657
@ageofstrange657 2 года назад
coolest cavalry unit hands down
@Martin-wj1sl
@Martin-wj1sl 2 года назад
only unexpected one was vs mamelukes they cataphracts literally cleared their bane
@renanmiranda68
@renanmiranda68 2 года назад
ROMA INVICTA!
@sicariomegrella516
@sicariomegrella516 2 года назад
Negating damages since 1999
@KLASIK123
@KLASIK123 6 месяцев назад
It is with Logistica?(trample damage)
@TransparentSkull
@TransparentSkull 3 года назад
Tell me who is stronger full cathapract or full paladin?
@midosch7639
@midosch7639 3 года назад
Paladin
@SirPraiseSun
@SirPraiseSun 3 года назад
cat more versatile defense so better in general but it all depends
@BeaneChunz
@BeaneChunz 4 года назад
You should have compared them in cost efficiency, not population efficiency
@earthlymatters888
@earthlymatters888 2 года назад
The problem is 60 enemy catas will still wipe your whole army cos of 200 pop limit
@BeaneChunz
@BeaneChunz 2 года назад
@@earthlymatters888 Doesn't mean that they can't be beaten tho, brute forces such as cavaliers are already fine enough against them Not to mention they are kinda squishy against ranged units compared to the knight line
@vasilileung2204
@vasilileung2204 4 года назад
Alright what about the Tiger II?
@ZetsubouFallen
@ZetsubouFallen Год назад
Mangudai would actually beat them easy with proper microgaming.
@jooldschool680
@jooldschool680 Год назад
They lost only against elephants (three times), chariots, boyar, komnik and leitis. Ez.
@soumyakanta4450
@soumyakanta4450 3 года назад
These leitis are so op that it angers me
@aquajasa
@aquajasa 4 года назад
Satisfying
@sniperloic2904
@sniperloic2904 4 года назад
some fights are pointless considering ressources used; like with War Elephants and Karambits. One is pop effective, the other is swarm effective. But it does show that Cataphracts are like anti-infantry and anti-anti-cavalery Cavalier. Btw, i think Byzantines shouldn't got Paladins or even perhaps Champions since they are a "counter-civ", but have Blast Furnace at least and Bloodline for the dream, thoses 2 techs missing hurts really its cavalery and infantry :(
@esteban8387
@esteban8387 4 года назад
I expected more from the Incas
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
All of their bonus cav damage is negated, and the Cataphracts have their own bonus dmg vs infantry (+18 with Logistica which also adds +5 dmg to all adjecent units). At this point, the Kamayuks are merely Longswords with added range.
@nicotube4178
@nicotube4178 4 года назад
mongols with decent micro should always win...
@kianxi5146
@kianxi5146 Год назад
I the video Samurai against every unique Unit the Samurai won against cataphrac. Now the cataphtrac wins. Wtf
@ibrahimemrezayim9292
@ibrahimemrezayim9292 4 года назад
How did they win agains Tarkans (hun). Tarkas have more HP and attack????
@anirudhviswanathan3986
@anirudhviswanathan3986 4 года назад
Also, Tarkans have lower melee armor, as well as having a slower attack rate.
@suyash5608
@suyash5608 4 года назад
Logistica
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 года назад
Two words: *trample damage.*
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
+10 dmg per hit and they hit faster. Hidden attack bonuses are not to be messed with :)
@tobiasfeil1993
@tobiasfeil1993 4 года назад
Leitis are OP, and that's without relics
@michaelstekelenburg3689
@michaelstekelenburg3689 4 года назад
Leitis is the most overpowered unit with Teutonic knight.
@whitehavencpu6813
@whitehavencpu6813 3 года назад
No. They are very similar to cataphracts: Good against infantry and cavalry, weak vs massed archers and elephants.
@zalimlericinyasasincehenne
@zalimlericinyasasincehenne 2 года назад
Kaynak miktarına göre asker eşitle... Bu maçlar adil değil ve gerçek verileri vermez
@sebastianballesteros8835
@sebastianballesteros8835 4 года назад
i think byzantines need some buffs in reality
@ian2372
@ian2372 Год назад
Free Constantinople!!!! Illegally occupied since 1453.
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