Elite driving school solved the problem with Tesla Model 3 Highland

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@kasperjuul5124 20 часов назад

I drive a BMW... what is this talk about blinkers?

@avivstoica 18 часов назад

🤣🤣😎👍🤣🤣

@RoteLars 18 часов назад

BMW and Audi and Mercedes drivers don't care about blinkers

@biggabigga 15 часов назад

It's just a way to sell more blinker fluid

@EggertOlafs 14 часов назад

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👍

@jsjs6751 7 часов назад

You wouldn't understand... 😅

@pavelblaha5243 20 часов назад

According to the video, I still find this solution clumsy compared to the classic levers.

@tobiasforsberg2497 11 часов назад

In the video the touch this subject. That people that are used to stalks prefer those to the buttons. But the younger kids that goes to drivingschool rather use buttons that stalks.

@colla555 10 часов назад

@@tobiasforsberg2497 How would you prefer to "not know at any time where the button/switch/lever for blinking is"? Instead of knowing that it is on a stalk left to the wheel, where you know the position.

@cos_marc 21 час назад

it should be mandatory to get 1-2 hours of driving from the school every few years... just so someone remembers us how bad of a drivers we are.

@zahnatom 18 часов назад

every "few years" as in 10 sure anything lower is unreasonable tbh

@katchaontheflipside 22 часа назад

But having the buttons on the wheel still doesnt help with f.i. roundabouts..

@youtubebob123 20 часов назад

I guess it's slightly more intuitive, but not really "nice"

@srenhansen1983 18 часов назад

If you notice how the instructor holds his hands, the right hand is on the correct button for exiting the roundabout. I guess that’s the trick.

@colla555 17 часов назад

Just stick the buttons on the actually dashboard. Like a quiz show button. Or Alternatively on the fixed part of the steering column

@achaz_ 17 часов назад

I find it better than normal stalks for roundabouts but it's probably just me that's able to accomodate to something new... Right...

@karelski 17 часов назад

For left turns the button on the steering wheel works fine, for right turns I have a sexy button in the 'V' at the bottom of the steering wheel. This works perfectly on roundabouts. And I should know, I live in the Netherlands with a lot of roundabouts 😀

@DouglasJMark 16 часов назад

Fascinating that student drivers prefer buttons. It makes sense given how fast they can type with they’re thumbs 👍 👍

@woodypwx 21 час назад

These are rotating with the steering wheel too. I need Sexy Stalks! Ideally customizable, so I can bind TACC speed resume and other useful controls 😢🙏

@Blasterxp 21 час назад

Hmm strange.... I think the buttons should no move. Then issue is gone.

@Mercefreaken 10 часов назад

I put a small, 1-2 mm thick sticker on the button for the right indicator, which is the one you always use when exiting a roundabout (Norway). Really don’t have any issues with the missing stalks now, it’s dirt cheap (actually came with a roof lamp I installed in the bedroom, so it was actually kind of free) and I don’t risky any issues with Tesla regarding the warranty as I keep well away from the OBD-port 😊 Super easy to spot just by glaring slightly downwards in case I don’t feel it with my hand.

@firebladeflow 7 часов назад

That's exactly what Tesla is lacking: Haptic feedback!!! Impossible to be looking at the steering wheel. it has to be INTUITIVE

@Martinko_Pcik 16 часов назад

I don't understand how this non standard and custom solution helps students to learn habits transerable to other cars

@Hitman006xp 5 часов назад

it won't xD

@michelvanderbeek391 16 часов назад

I thought it would be a problem, but after a week of having a highland, for me ‘stalkgate’ is not an issue anymore, I’m used to it (yes, also roundabouts / EU). That being said stalks is just more simple and makes more sense. But I don’t see the need for aftermarket stalks.

@glollwest3834 15 часов назад

Not only are removal of the indicator stalk annoying, but the usage of the new buttons are also annoying. When pressing, if I miss slightly, nothing happens. Arrgghhh

@dominolehmann8227 22 часа назад

I've had the Model S for over 7 years with stalks, in addition a Model 3 2021 with stalks and the model 3 highland without stalks. The first two hours I needed a little bit of more focus in turnabouts but afterwards no problem at all. Having a blinker on every side isn't replacing the stalks, especially if you have always remember which side you need to use. So they change the position as well. Same problem with ferrari back in the day. Of course not that relevant if you are on a track day and using the 9-15 position. In my case no reason for ugly, expensive buttons. Heating batt. isn't helping either and now that the high beam auto function is better there isn't a single reason to buy the sexy buttons in my case.

@pablosquared4868 20 часов назад

And now, every time we see you drive "incorrectly" on the livestream, we'll call you out for it! 😂

@pasha1877 16 часов назад

I dont have a highland but that wheel movement together with the sexy buttons seems smooth. I would get used to that in 5-10 minutes

@broderwow 20 часов назад

You can always buy aftermarket stalks as Bjorn presented 2-3 weeks ago.

@danielr3207 21 час назад

Ide happily swap the new rear screen for stalks. I'm not upgrading my 2022 until factory stalks are available.

@londonwestman1 14 часов назад

That's the bottom line: no stalks, no buy.!

@pete8516 12 часов назад

I agree...my good friend is a mechanic for Tesla and he tells me the feedback on stalkless highlands is a common complaint....Elon listen please

@philw4625 21 час назад

Im not one of those 'i need buttons' types. Ive had several Teslas now so i feel i can comment. But this was a completely daft aesthetic choice for european roads where roundabouts are everywhere. European driving can be quite intense due to small complex roads and heavy traffic. Im sure id get used to it, but i know my wife (who is already totally not a fan of my pre highland Tesla) would just refuse to drive it. Which predetermines my next choice of car - who will drive me home from the pub if the car has no indicator stalks?! 😂 Also, given the lamentable performance of the wipers, a button is essential, and having it moving around with the steering is just an awful decision for this specific car. Same for 3 point turns without a straightforward gear selector - just fiddly when turning in a narrow european street (allied to the massive turning circle and soft fragile kerb seeking alloys common to most teslas). Finally, seeing Elon do his cringe thing at a Trump rally, in front of a bunch of coal rollers (who says they don't get irony?!) is slowly pushing me into the arms of the Chinese EV market. Teslas PR department (if it hasn't been sacked to save money) must be livid - way to go alienating a sizeable export market when the uptake of EV is at a crossroads of doubt and misinformation. Im surprised this design achieved homologation in our market, to be honest.

@georgepelton5645 17 часов назад

AFAIK, Tesla's PR department was sacked years ago, and never replaced.

@philw4625 17 часов назад

@@georgepelton5645 it would have been a thankless job, i imagine

@kaikboy1388 21 час назад

Wouldn’t you have the same issue of a deploying steering wheel airbag if you’re caught in an accident within the roundabout with his driving style? (arm stretched across the steering wheel). Like others that commented, the buttons just continue the same ‘mindset inconvenience’, the ideal solution is steer by wire … come on Tesla, make it happen.

@pallibj 19 часов назад

Exactly what I was thinking 🤔 😊

@MR-vj8dn 17 часов назад

Entertaining video. I’m not going to change how I steer through roundabouts, I don’t like arms crossing the steering wheel. Also, I like traditional stalks, and I’m going to continue purchase cars that provide stalks. Younger generations can do what they want. 😊

@karelski 17 часов назад

@Bud_Terence 13 часов назад

Ofcorse stundent drivers prefer buttons, because they are yoused to them, from they gaming controlers. ;)

@londonwestman1 13 часов назад

I'm yet to be convinced. In fact I'm absolutely not going to be convinced. I have 45 years experience with stalks. If Tesla want to sell me a car they have to stop being so arrogant and bring back the indicator stalk. My 1967 Beetle had an indicator stalk and EVERY SINGLE CAR I've driven since. (Perhaps that's 70 different models.) No stalk.. No buy.! (I've also sold my Tesla shares.)

@schofieldmoss4357 9 часов назад

I was taught to drive in the UK and to keep my hands on the steering wheel at all times, and slide the steering wheel through my hands when turning, so my hand is always in the correct position to cancel or change the indicator. I also thought you should keep your thumbs out of the steering wheel just in case you have an accident and the wheel turns quickly. The buttons on the steering wheel and also the 3exy buttons look awkward to use.

@selldivision 7 часов назад

I've always thought the blinker button on the steering wheel should blink when in operation. Still not as good as stalks, but at least a quick glance at the steering wheel would show you which direction you are indicating.

@curseknight5 21 час назад

correct me my Canadian/American friends, we don't indicate entering a roundabout, we only indicate our exit right?

@zilla85 20 часов назад

At least for europe, yes, only on exit.

@Mues_Lee 20 часов назад

@@zilla85 I think in france and netherlands they also indicate on entering. For example they want to leave on the third exit (left side when entering) they set the indicator to left so others see where they want to exit. Sorry for bad english, don't know how to explain it better.

@anticringeclub 20 часов назад

neither. in the UK (where our directions are reversed) you indicate right on entry if your exit is past half way on the roundabout, then indicate on exit. otherwise, if your exit is before half way, you can indicate on exit only

@zilla85 20 часов назад

@@Mues_Lee that's interesting! I'm from germany and we only indicate exiting.

@Mues_Lee 19 часов назад

@@zilla85 Ich hab mir das auch angewöhnt aber kann mich nicht erinnern wie das in der Fahrschule gelehrt wurde. Meinen Führerschein habe ich 1994 gemacht, da gab es in meiner Gegend noch keine Kreisverkehre :D Da ich grenznah zum Elsass wohne ist mir das aufgefallen bei den Franzosen. So dumm ist das auch gar nicht, dann sehen die wartenden das du weiter fährst und reduziert die Unfallgefahr. Weiter unten gib es noch einen Kommentar dazu.

@DouglasJMark 16 часов назад

I like keeping the right hand on the wheel through the whole roundabout tip 🤓

@pmacgowan 21 час назад

I had the same idea that the indicator buttons should be placed where they put the sexy buttons. Dont understand why T did what they did, may be because EM has gone to the "Dark Side" ? Maybe we should call him Darth Musk

@yaCiyaCi 20 часов назад

Good solution for model 3 maybe, but why use a car without stalks in a driving school?

@CapitanHarlockisback 19 часов назад

Price

@kenion2166 16 часов назад

Future, why use a computer in school when you still can use a typewriter? :D

@celeron55 16 часов назад

Did you listen? The driving instructor said, right in this video, that young drivers actually prefer the touch buttons on the steering wheel to stalks on cars that have both.

@yaCiyaCi 15 часов назад

@@celeron55 The same instructor also installed S3XY Buttons to improve non stalk solution that Tesla came up with. Driving schools should use cars with stalks and if the driver later choose to drive car without, that is his own preferance.

@tobiasforsberg2497 11 часов назад

@@yaCiyaCi Does the same apply to one-pedal driving? (or the lack of shifting).

@hakangustafsson7420 13 часов назад

I can't see the advantage? The buttons are on the wrong position anyway?

@paulgaida2601 18 часов назад

Great idea!

@stuartmchugh1754 19 часов назад

“Instructor” is so dangerous. You are meant to feed the wheel around while keeping the hands in same place. Never cover the airbag with your hand or arm, death wish for watch flying into your face, or very least broken arm instantly if airbag deploys. Automatic fail on driver test.

@SgtFvMC 3 часа назад

I totally forgot that you blink inside the roundabout in Norway. I messed that up the whole first week i was there🙈

@ericvet8b 21 час назад

That way of holding the wheel does not work well with stalks if you are turning left on roundabout (here in UK and leaving exit), as your left hand would be on wheel on the left with “free” right hand but your stalk is on the left, so you have to move hands from that position. This only works if you hold wheel like that, so many people will have to retrain to do it as I’ve tried on commute after watching video and not that easy but I guess doable (but not sure that much more doable than learning to hit right buttons on front of wheel after a while… 🤷‍♂️. Interesting that young learners/kids prefer buttons… 😊

@LoneWolf-wp9dn 20 часов назад

right hand drive cars are incredibly wrong... the accelerator should be on the left... thats the natural position

@DouglasJMark 16 часов назад

FSD Supervised can do the correct signals in roundabouts. I think 12.4.1 did. But, the newer 12.5.4 version did not. I gotta try it again though.

@sargfowler9603 20 часов назад

Ever seen a car where so many gadgets have been made to make it user friendly? Clearly Tesla has a HMI department, but they should all be sacked.

@artokiiskinen1058 17 часов назад

They design the car to satisfy Mr Musk, not the real users

@ITubeTooInc 9 часов назад

Tesla doesn't do any of this to make it user-friendly, but only to make it cheaper to manufacture. They have a big screen anyway, so the more buttons they can integrate into the screen the less money and installation time they need on extra buttons and wiring. The blinker could not safely be integrated into the screen, but by putting two small buttons next to each other they made it much cheaper than a stalk.

@sargfowler9603 7 часов назад

@@ITubeTooInc Must have saved a couple of Euros on that....

@castroorstad8215 7 часов назад

Blink right, only right. Left blinkers do not turn it of before they leave the roundaboute.

@pigedehekkan 7 часов назад

I love buttons 🥰

@SNORKYMEDIA 17 часов назад

these buttons dont solve ANYTHING - the problem is the same....maybe if you put the buttons either side of the cowl behind the wheel -but still clunky

@broderwow 19 часов назад

The question is if SEXY buttons could do their wireless stalks?

@BrokenNinja 12 часов назад

I actually kinda like the buttons on the wheel, without the stalk, just because it means driving one handed is easier xD But the shift leaver being removed fucking sucks ass, I love my 2021 model 3 just because of how it easy it is to drive and maneuver. Also I always drive in chill mode now if doing regular driving, only switch out for merging onto highways and overtaking, easy to switch with multi function menu with left scroll wheel

@qb4hkm 7 часов назад

My god, finally... left blinker is fine on roundabout. There are many unclear situations if you don't use it.

@ondrascz1 15 часов назад

Are you really blinking left on the runabouts in Norway? WOW!

15 часов назад

Here in Sweden the left blink is only considered "nice" and not a rule. Blinking out of the round-about though is the law. (For some reason I was tought in my driving school that I do NOT need to blink if my lane is splitting into two... which you can sort of think of the exit from a round-about as. But whatever)

@ondrascz1 14 часов назад

Right blinking is a rule, no doubt, but the left blinking is reserved here only for changing the lanes on multilane roundabout

@Martinko_Pcik 16 часов назад

S3xy buttons might develop stalks, but perhaps they don't think they would profit from it.

@ikocheratcr 9 часов назад

I think that a sort of dress for the column, that has a stalk is feasible, and using the s3xy button behind it. Sort of a 3D printed thing one can attach, and a few soldered wires to the s3xy buttons.

@Tescam14 20 часов назад

I agree with instructor about speed being displayed on screen is better than on a dashboard - closer and higher and quicker to read

@PG-nf9wx 9 часов назад

are you allowed to drive manual cars after getting the license with a tesla?

@Talaxianer 2 часа назад

@flox8342 20 часов назад

Still think that whole discussion is well overcooked. The only thing i complain about is the bad feedback from the steering wheel buttons in the 3. Why didn't they just put in regular clicky buttons...

@pete8516 12 часов назад

Hey give a shout out to Marcusbil....bring back the stalks...I have a '23 Model Y will be getting a '25 Juniper but only with stalks

@nakfan 10 часов назад

And Bjørn Consults Driving school 😃

@alexanderroch1030 22 часа назад

When taking a driving test with an electric car are you then allowed to also drive cars with manual transmission? Here in Austria the license would be limited to Automatic cars.

@Zer-jx8tn 22 часа назад

would limited to automatic, beacuse you get the B78 license and not the B, for now only the hyunday ioniq 5 N have a simulated manual gear

@volkero3132 20 часов назад

Since 2021 it is possible. It is called B197. You have to take 10 hours driving manual with the instructor. But the rest and the test is done with the automatic.

@timoliver8940 20 часов назад

Same here in the UK if you learn on an automatic / EV then your licence will only permit you to only drive an automatic. The opportunity to buy a new car with a manual shift though is getting less and less as manufacturers claim that automatics can meet emissions regulations better and these days there isn’t the fuel consumption penalty older automatics had. I took my UK driving test back in 1981 in manual cars but today both the cars in the house are 2023/2024 models with no option to buy a manual gearbox version - one of them has in effect 2 gearboxes though, high and low range with 8 forward gears in each box! It’s a Land Rover Defender and I use the low range box most 3-4 times a month. In the UK we have a group called the Institute of Advanced Motorists who will take you out in your own car with an instructor and correct any bad habits you have developed but this is not compulsory .

@jsjs6751 6 часов назад

When will they remove the pedals? 😅

@tonymcflattie2450 15 часов назад

I like ev that coast. Hate the harsh lift off regen

@MrHpombo 10 часов назад

I would put a yoke steering wheel also 😂😂😂

@anthonyn3774 13 часов назад

Ironically, the Tesla buttons on the left side of the steering wheel are better for right hand drive cars as you can use this technique at roundabouts without the sexy buttons.

@jsjs6751 7 часов назад

This is Tesla's version of Apple's USB-C-problem. They come up with something proprietary and will stick to it as long as they are allowed to. That being said, they did get rid of a lot of mechanics and electronics by removing them. But they should not have been implemented before steer-by-wire.

@GoatieDK 16 часов назад

Configure both buttons to "1 click" = blink right... 2 clicks = blink left.... then you just need to hit one of the buttons to get out of round abouts.... and UK could to it in reverse...

@bjornnyland 12 часов назад

If you do that you introduce another 300 ms of delay. Bad idea.

@SgtFvMC 3 часа назад

I would have totally put it in drift mode🤪

@MartinGillespie-rd8tk 11 часов назад

Hi..You can buy aftermarket stalk sets that are easy to install.Bob's your uncle

@fabiancompurama1 2 часа назад

It's good idea, indeed

@Tobias-b 21 час назад

Im so surprised that standard safety functions in cars is not regulated when so much else is. And I think this solution is even dumber then Tesla removal of the stalks that the pupil get teached a third way even less standard... I wonder how they will react when dont drive a tesla with extra button, probably be like old school BMW and not use the indicator. Regarding hands on the wheel in our country you are supposed to hold the hands on 4 and 8 (mostly regarding to airbag) not 3 and 9 as in this film.

@scepticalcarols 20 часов назад

Those long movement completely crossed up one hand driving looks very ungainly, I'll just buy a different car next purchase. Elon has convinced me of that anyway.

@alancobbin 21 час назад

But the Model 3 Doesn’t have a Problem for majority of people,if it did it wouldn’t be selling,muscle memory is key.

@Talaxianer 2 часа назад

Muscle memory isn't the answer when the button moves all over the place while turning

@tamasgiczi 21 час назад

I dont get this chill mode. In kia EV6, in all 3 modes, eco, normal, sport, the full power is available, but its like putting expo on throttle pedal. Tesla should do this to, chill pedal reaction, but still full power available. I hate the jerkyness of normal mode on tesla.

15 часов назад

"expo", do you fly RC by any chance? Or are you a mouse+KB gamer? hehe.

@tamasgiczi 15 часов назад

Both :D have a raw 700 heli, and purely gaming on pc.

@goforsteve3042 19 часов назад

Stalks are the best, Elon is stupid. Anyway I will not give money to Trump. VW or Kia are good EVs!

@markgeezey1809 10 часов назад

There is a reason why stalks were invented. Typical Musk engineers trying to reinvent the wheel (quite literally) when there was no need to. Always been taught never cross your hands on a steering wheel as you have less control. Slide the wheel between your hands on sharp turns.

@nandu2702 18 часов назад

I have the exact setup in my model 3, but it is not helpful in roundabouts. Now I got used to the buttons on the steering wheel.

@theohuisman7778 19 часов назад

It is a temporary problem, in future models with steer by wire, the buttons on the steering wheel are just fine. See Cybertruck

@tauzN 16 часов назад

I have three buttons under the armrest. Left and right blinks, the middle changes gear between D and R. Perfect location; even better than stalks.

@celeron55 16 часов назад

Now that's some ergonomics!

@topgunm 12 часов назад

I have a S Plaid. I drive in Oslo daily - to and from work (city center). Yoke / buttons are second nature (yes, this includes SEVERAL roundabouts, including the one north of the Royal palace (the really tight one)). I have S3XY buttons, and have a 3D printed mount for the cup holder for 3 S3XY buttons - turn signals and high beam lights. I only use this when others are driving my car (I can help them with signaling). Stalks are "easy" as its muscle memory (because 99% of cars have the same system). Its not a better system once you get used to the buttons. I hate using stalks when I use other cars.

@TheZitherish 20 часов назад

The left side is the right side……of the road.✊

@tokepanduro7302 21 час назад

yes 🙂

@joseabreu5802 19 часов назад

Nos precisamos de carros simples de usar....mas a cada vez maior quantidade de gadgets sem interesse torna a conducao uma dor de cabeça

@rajanpatel65 20 часов назад

Lol

@DragosT8 22 часа назад

There’s no problem with the the blinkers. You get use to them in few hours and that’s it.

@SailingFloh 22 часа назад

Still touch buttons aren't the best thing if they have made more physical buttons like in the cybertruck it would be much better ...

@katchaontheflipside 22 часа назад

You must live in the US. Try taking a roundabout and youll know...

@ZKITPO 21 час назад

@@katchaontheflipside exactly why I dont buy a tesla. The solution is bullshit in european streets.

@woodypwx 21 час назад

My problem with the buttons is not to choose the right one. That is easy. The problem is rotation of the steering wheel. If it’s not straight, I need to find and verify what I’m pressing by eyes and it’s even more annoying over night in dark. It’s totally stupid decision. Other controls are stupid too because of the missing stalks. There is no way to resume TACC speed. It’s much harder to activate and deactivate high beams (you always blind others), no controls for wipers etc.

@linusjonsson1851 20 часов назад

I had a highland for about 8 months and yes I got use to them but it's not as good as stalks, and the buttons aren't great. Really Stupid design

@tridrean 22 часа назад

❤❤❤

@talhabakhtiar6178 21 час назад

I don't know why stalks are the problem? You can literally get used to these buttons if people still can't focus in round about just buy yourself some stickers thats say "L" and "R" place these stickers on the buttons and you will learn it.