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ELITE TRAINER BOXES: A Horrible Investment? 📉 

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Should You Invest In Pokemon ETB's?
This big question comes around as people have mixed feelings surrounding the topic. Are ETBs good for future growth, or are there better alternatives?
Come see the video where we discuss Pokemon ETBs and see how well they perform over the long term.
VIDEO CHAPTERS ⏱️
00:00 Are ETBs a Good Investment?
0:41 How Viable Are They As An Investment?
2:16 ETB's Divide The Community
4:08 Why They Struggle
6:02 Price Data Analysis
12:30 Reframing How You View ETBs
13:40 Anomalies
14:18 The Best Time To Buy
VIDEO CREATED BY DREAM DROP STUDIO | MELBOURNE VIDEO PRODUCTION.
www.dreamdropstudio.com.au
#Elitetrainerbox #pokemoninvesting #pokemoncards #pokemontcg #boosterbox

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@voydkid
@voydkid Месяц назад
etbs are a lot of packaged air
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Yep that’s the one. Pinned comment.
@MrWizard65
@MrWizard65 Месяц назад
I want to throw out a challenge on this. Think about it from the perspective of the masses. Most current folks that are just enjoying or learning pokemon (non investors) are exposed to the hobby and enjoy the hobby through what they get at big box stores, and that's ETBs. If you are in this for the long haul (10+ years) the nostalgia factor will be MUCH higher for ETBs than with booster boxes.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Could be. However would the booster box do better?
@MrWizard65
@MrWizard65 Месяц назад
@@phillips.collectibles once the value of the content of the boxes diverges from collectability then nostalgia kicks in and ETBs will be revered by the next generation because they were exposed to those vs booster boxes.
@palkys.
@palkys. Месяц назад
Pokemon is going hardcore woke. You say 10 years, but I cant imagine pokemon maintaining the brand for much longer.
@Darko0699
@Darko0699 Месяц назад
I am an emotional investor sometimes so let me tell you: YOU are a bad investment 😢 I love ETBs
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
We all do!
@pkmnunite3283
@pkmnunite3283 Месяц назад
I did a quick survey many years ago, and I determined that the value of ETBs vs BBs relative to MSRP performs the same usually. Some have different values. A Burning Shadows ETB performed worse than its BB counterpart. An Unbroken Bonds ETB performed waaaaay better than its BB counterpart. It depends on the set. The reason why I value ETBs a tad more is liquidity. A $1000 BB is going to sit on ebay for awhile. There are far fewer people buying BBs at that price range. It is far easier to sell an ETB for $400 (which would also be 10x MSRP) than a BB at the much higher price.
@phai_ngo
@phai_ngo Месяц назад
You think the celebration etb cant raise After the 30 celebration comes out ?
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Anything is possible!
@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax
@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax Месяц назад
Probaly a bad investment , but I like collecting them for a display peice as well as occasionally opening them….
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
That’s the thing. They look sensational to display!
@ajithrajaful
@ajithrajaful Месяц назад
for special sets do you prefer etb, PC etb, loose booster bundles, booster bundle displays, or something else entirely? if you could only pick 1
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
That’s a good question I’ll have to think to about it…they all have perks
@MasterKenG1
@MasterKenG1 Месяц назад
Nice comparison. Where do you think Evolving Skies regular ETBs will be value wise in 3-5 years when you can no longer get them from any retail Pokémon product? I missed the booster box train however when Costco released an Evo ETB bundle with a tin included with 2 Evo packs inside for 37.99 I jumped all over them for close to 2k in ETB/tin bundles. I would prefer booster boxes but at that value per pack from Costco it was a no brainer. Just more storage space lol.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Good question! Evolving Skies is the odd one out and whatever has ES is always going to out perform other sets!
@keithwelch8563
@keithwelch8563 Месяц назад
If you buy for a collection it doesn’t matter at all but if you invest the BB is the better option. Certain/special editions ETB’s can do very well.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Yeah great way of putting it!
@magg93
@magg93 28 дней назад
ETBs make a supernice display piece, love to collect them
@yavuzsabuncuoglu
@yavuzsabuncuoglu Месяц назад
So true! ETB take up storage bro. 100% they should slim them down and be more eco friendly.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
For sure…they look great but are so bulky!
@tioh5915
@tioh5915 Месяц назад
I guess the real question is how much you wanna diversify your pokemon investment and what's to come in the future. Let`s say i have 500$ to spend on this "hobby". I could buy maybe 4 displays depending on the series or i could buy like 12-16 different ETBs. If one display crashes it's 25% of my portfolio, if one ETB crashes it's just around 6-8%. The same goes the other way. If one series gets an hype i just have a chance to hit the right display when buying it. If i buy every cheap ETB i have a 100% chance to catch the hype. Pros and Cons you know.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
It's great that you're thinking strategically about your Pokemon investment! Diversification is key in any portfolio.
@FrenchFryUK
@FrenchFryUK Месяц назад
I started Pokemon collecting almost 2 years ago and started with ETB’s and then quickly went to PC ETB’s and now Booster Boxes. I also started dabbling One Piece, Lorcana and DB Fusion World as still waiting for Pokemon Scarlett and Violet release a banger of a set 😉
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Yeah for sure I’m loving some of the competitors!
@k8wf
@k8wf Месяц назад
It'll be interesting to see the future performance of SV ETB's versus SWSH as they have the promo cards now. Especially the PC exclusive ETBs with the stamped card. Could the PC exclusive ETBs overtake the booster boxes of the same set? I think the OF one might with the Charmander card being amazing and the main set underwhelming.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
This is a good point. The promo cards do make a huge difference
@samhsu1271
@samhsu1271 Месяц назад
if you want a size that's better ratio of packs battle stadiums are the way to go. they also look better than etbs depending on who you ask.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
They are cool. I'll need to see how they go for long term.
@PolafTCG
@PolafTCG Месяц назад
I’ve got a fair amount of diverse sealed but recently I’ve been grabbing up crown zenith booster bundles from Walmart. I absolutely love the set and think plenty others do too. Thoughts?
@PolafTCG
@PolafTCG Месяц назад
Price point has been 28.97 USD. Not the best price per pack, but I think they have good long term value since there is no CZ B-Box.
@flare31777
@flare31777 Месяц назад
I like PC ETBs but here in Czech Republic we do nota have an access to Pokemon centre and on the secondary market the price is immediately double the retail price…So I rather stick with the BBs. Thanks for a video!
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Yeah same in Australia. They are super expensive
@youcanthandlemyname7393
@youcanthandlemyname7393 Месяц назад
within 2 years pretty much all sun and moon etbs were selling for over 100$. rn we are about 2 years out of the sword and shield era and even evo skies etbs have not cracked 100 yet and pretty much every other set is still selling for msrp. i 100 percent agree with you that the game has changed in regards to etbs.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
It’s a different ball game now!
@newjones1754
@newjones1754 Месяц назад
I like etb's just to open some packs and get some extra stuff. Depends on the price though. 30-35 a etb for some packs is not bad. Pokemoncenter etb are a better investment but, i agree boosterboxes are king.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
100%. I love BB’s!
@dwhirsh82
@dwhirsh82 Месяц назад
It boils down to cost per pack. If packs are 20$ and I have an etb with 8 packs I’m selling it for 160$.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
100% well put. Are you a ETB collector or BB?
@dwhirsh82
@dwhirsh82 Месяц назад
@@phillips.collectibles I can’t afford to buy booster boxes. I’ve bought some sword and shield etbs for 40 or less as well as a few paldean fates Charizard tins I found at target the other day. Also one each of chilling reign etb which I think is under rated due to its proximity of ES.
@qwerty-wk4cn
@qwerty-wk4cn 16 дней назад
I think that the scarlet and violet etb would do better even if they are mainline bc of the promo card. Before there was no reason to buy bc ur just paying for junk but in the S&V era there are promo cards and the illustration is really nice which I think would make the it more sustainable
@dwhirsh82
@dwhirsh82 Месяц назад
I’d never buy loose packs from a card shop. They buy booster boxes try and find their 5-8 hits in as few packs as possible and then sell the remaining packs knowing they most likely have grabbed most if not all the hits from the booster boxes.
@adamdonnelly2932
@adamdonnelly2932 Месяц назад
I am positive this happened to me. We got 4 booster packs from our LGS (1 for me and 1 for each of my kids) from an open booster box and none of us got anything more than a hollow. It could have been just our luck but I was at least hoping the kids would be able to get a basic ex card.
@IneptCardCollector
@IneptCardCollector Месяц назад
5:17 yessir, and they're the right size for presents.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Ultimate gifts!
@wafflez9191
@wafflez9191 Месяц назад
It's all about time tho. It's not a quick flip. Etbs will grow in value over 5 10 20 years. And they are more affordable for the masses that want to open product. I only get one of each set personally and that's it. Booster boxes all the way
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing your insights on the value of ETBs and booster boxes, you've made a great point here. It's great to hear different perspectives!
@Alflloyd64
@Alflloyd64 Месяц назад
Nobody knows the real potential of the Pokemon Center etbs from scarlet and violet , they haven’t had time to age , in a few years I’m guessing collectors who missed out will pay a heavy price
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
This is true. The stamped promos make a huge difference!
@samersalama6275
@samersalama6275 Месяц назад
I’m wondering if people are confused when they see the black and white era and sun and moon ETBs moving in price. People need to remember these products were not printed like our current ETBs get printed.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
100% these have an exclusivity tax!
@rebornstudios2511
@rebornstudios2511 Месяц назад
Hey dude, Hope you are well! Do you think Japanese Clay Burst booster boxes will do well as a future investment?
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
It’s a great set! Do you own these?
@rebornstudios2511
@rebornstudios2511 Месяц назад
@@phillips.collectibles indeed i have 2 boxes.
@FictionalPersonality
@FictionalPersonality Месяц назад
I like the PC ETBs. The manual that list all the cards in the set, the sleeves, the promo card, everything inside is like a time capsule.
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
100%!
@adengillum6267
@adengillum6267 Месяц назад
thats weird, was literatly trying to find this out a few days ago
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Awesome to hear the video answered your question!
@PhilseXO
@PhilseXO Месяц назад
Phillips, thank you for these amazing videos. You answer so many unanswered questions for us just starting out with Poké-investing. Keep it up!
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
Any time! Appreciate the feedback.
@arifureta1216
@arifureta1216 Месяц назад
Really good video on this topic however booster box will always outshine in terms of value and rise of value in a long term as long you can keep it sealed and not open it because as you mentioned pokemon is a hobby as well and its a number 1 thing in pokemon that is a hobby and of course an investment but as you said as well you need to have passion for this as well otherwise trust me you will give up and lose the value and money you just spent on the products
@user-tt9un2xw7p
@user-tt9un2xw7p Месяц назад
depends on 7ime
@bcutt8629
@bcutt8629 Месяц назад
Sherlock holmes has nothing on this guy.
@grandmassloppy697
@grandmassloppy697 Месяц назад
We stirring the pot today, huh?
@phillips.collectibles
@phillips.collectibles Месяц назад
😂
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