Elizabeth Bowes Lyon: A Queen Mum of Bad Blood 

I thought India gained independence in 1947.

Jon, Nice that a presenter is prepared to eat humble pie as you have here. There aren't many that have done this. Unfortunately, your presentation is so typical of so many videos which like those who control the British press, love to put someone on a pedestal and then like a pack of dogs, drag them down and rip them apart. There isn't much by way of smut around this victim so we use the occasional "off-the-cuff" comment to engage in character assassination. I have no time for the royal family, an institution that since the time of the arrival of William Le Bâtard in October 1066 have persecuted and trodden on the native people of this country. I wish people who are of an egalitarian persuasion would nail their colours to the mast instead of picking and sniggering. Although attempts were made to remove the offending verse (the rich man in his castle etc) from common usage from 1906 onwards, we certainly sang that verse in my primary school in the 1950s and saw it as the way of things. Most of us at my primary school lived on council estates and we were taught to know our place by female teachers. (Women are far more likely to vote Conservative than men. Allowing ALL adult women to vote from 1928 condemned the Country to Tory government throughout the 1930s and the War Years.) At school and in "Ladybird" books, we were regaled with fairy tales of princes and princesses. I remember the one about testing the would-be princess with a pea in her bed. When she hadn't slept well because of the pea, everyone agreed that she must be a princess; common oiks, of course, used to sleeping on less comfortable beds, would have slept well despite the pea. Our female teacher showed delight at the end of that one. The wronged princess gained her birthright after all (And the moral of the story is ...... ?) There is, of course, Good King Wensaslaus, actually Václav I Duke of Bohemia (about 907 - 28th Sept 935) made a saint after he was murdered on behalf of his vicious and evil brother, seeing the poor man gathering winter fuel. You see, it is how it should be. Wasn't our good king wonderful because of his condescension ? Many of the English aristocracy would have had the poor man hung for theft. It is hardly surprising that the old girl (Elizabeth) held those same prejudices, especially coming from the Scottish aristocracy and her privileged position. She undoubtedly believed the words put into the mouth of Jesus, "The poor are always with us". Snuggling up to Hitler was not unique to her, in her case more the fear of war than the overt Nazism of that appalling Simpson tart. Far from condemning her, we should applaud the old girl's steadfast attitude to the Simpson woman. It would have been better if David's body had been quietly disposed of in France rather than the silly piece of nonsense and trouble-makers in the BBC and Sky trying to stir the pot. In any event, I don't believe that she had any influence at all on the government policy of appeasement. As for the two relatives who were a few pence short of a shilling, you say that the old girl almost certainly didn't know so there is no hypocrisy .... a non-story. It is more a lesson for us all to help us understand the squalor of the British press (Milly Dowler etc. A 13 year old girl was murdered .... so let us illegally raid her mobile phone to see if she gave away any confidences to her friends that Milly played with herself. .... then we could gain illegal access to her friend's phones and expose them for playing with themselves. We would all be so much richer for knowledge of such smut, wouldn't we ? .... such is the British press.) As for the old girl's view on Africans, bearing in mind the history of Africa over the last 65 years, she was spot on. African politics is about who is going to occupy the dining table and rape their countries for personal gain and fight off anyone sat on the floor who wants their turn at occupying the table. Julius Nyerere, dictator of Tanzania excused his one-party state to an American journalist. "The United States is a one-party state ! .... except that, with your usual profligacy, you have two of them". Following the genocide in Rwanda, we have strong man, Paul Kagame, (Vlad Putin) dictator of Rwanda, the darling of the Tory Party, a man guilty of genocide in Congo and so on; the first president of Nigeria found half-naked and mutilated, stabbed to death in a gutter less than a year after independence ..... then the Biafran War and so on and so on ...... the chopping off of arms and legs of children and adults alike in Liberia and Sierra Leone ..... the Angolan War ....... the Katanga Rebellion ...... mass murder in Sudan .... and ..... and ..... Without doubt, our ordinary African children in the old British Empire in Africa would have been far better off if British colonial rule had continued. Mozambique and Angola have both joined the British Commonwealth of Nations. Obviously, the governments of those territories have some admiration for the British way of doing things.

@@jonny7491it became “independent” in 1947, like how canada is independent. it became a republic in 1948

@@terryhoath1983 I bet you had to lie down in a darkened room with a cold wet flannel on your forehead after getting that off your chest 😂😂😂

It is not the accidental error, but the ignoring of them that is a shame of contemporary times.

Hitler is said to have called her "The most dangerous woman in Europe"

She was shockingly cruel to her daughter's governess, Anne Crawford. Miss Crawford worked tirelessly with the two princesses for 16 years.

People like yourself who served your country should be given the highest respect and admiration. Thank you.

@mediterraneanworld No. October 1988. It had been closed for some time, having had renovations to the RAF Chapel window. She had unveiled a statue of Dowding at the RAF Church and then reopened the Chapel at Westminster.

And nobody's allowed a bad day?

Can I ask you something completely unrelated? I've seen many user names like yours on RU-vid lately, and I wonder how these names come about.

@@carmenl163 No idea

Now we understand where Princess Margaret got "it" from!

Yes she was not the darling some make her out to be. I mean no one is all good or all bad. I'm sure she had a nice side, but she definitely had a dark side not many talk about, she was very jealous of Marina and then when Wallace came in the scene there was no way she was going to have to courtesy to her! She had a huge hand in influencing the abdication. Her family was very influential, Queen Mary was very influential, and Winston Churchill. Between his Nazi leanings, his sexual fetishes and then Wallace, and then Elizabeth's jealousy of Wallace, the three of them pulled strings. But it's also true that the strategy of those behind the throne was that they'd have one king ready if hitler won and one king ready if not😉 so England would survive either way. But once hitler lost there's no way they could have two kings in the same country. He had to be kept in France.

@@carmenl163 it’s assigned. So many usernames are taken, people stop bothering to pick ones.

@@mediterraneanworld - Apparently you do not fully understand the meaning of the word spoiled. Poor people can “spoil” their children too, making them believe they are very special and better than everyone else. Also, I read, I read a lot. Try it sometime.

Too bad she was not still alive for MM. Perhaps then we would definitely have avoided all this Markle garbage we have been put through and/or Harry would definitely have been exiled to Africa.

@@DianeCagni-st5zc - If the Queen Mum was around when Harry brought MM around……….the marriage would NEVER have taken place. The Queen Mum would never have tolerated MM’s low class antics, it would have been nipped in the bud…………..and stealing stuff? She would have ended up in the Bloody Tower.

@@DianeCagni-st5zc And what crime has Meghan Markle committed other than not being liked by Murdoch?

@@jazminelee5166 - Not assimilating into the RF, trying to assert herself and violate protocol, being outspoken on politics and matters on which the RF never give their opinion. Stealing valuable jewels from the RF. Fabricating stories to harm the RF. The RF gave her a wedding suitable for a Disney Princess, they welcomed her into their family, and she thanks them by disrespecting them and not adhering to the responsibilities and duties and behaviour that the titles require. All the wealth, fame and privilege wasn’t enough, she wanted to be the center of attention. MM thought she’d waltz in and change the line of succession in favour or her and Harry. She actually tried to enter a formal event BEFORE Her Majesty and deeply resented William and Catherine and their children for their place in the line of succession. She was out of her league. The Queen Mum would have shredded her.

not surprised they just lack common human decency your grandmother was worth ten of her sort.

Sounds like a right snotty brat. I wonder if she is the family narcissist that passed it on down.

@@slaneyside Little girl was right and had been taught her position relative to the maid. That was a very different world and that little girl was responsible for many changes in more modern direction. What a prat your are slaneyside.

@@patrickkelly6691 No matter what one's position is, one should always show common human decency. That little girl was rude and undeserving of any assistance.

@@patrickkelly6691 🥱

I've heard a lot of bad things about her.

As was Margaret I learnt also!

My late husband was from England and I went over there once and went into this little restaurant and the waitress came up and I said "could we get an order of fries and a coupla of cokes please". She looked at me like I'd sprouted another head. My husband quickly translated " an order of chips and two cokes please" I realized wht had happened and kept my mouth shut from then on. I know tht has nothing to do with this it just reminded me of this. Thank you I had forgotten abt tht.

​@@Crashed2023I remember a carton once tht showed the queen mum and Margaret fighting over a bottle in Clarence house.

My deceased husband also served QM E and was astonished at the amount of spirits she could consume whilst surrounded by her ‘young’ men.

@@hellooutthere8956 You remind me of the scene in the Sopranos where Christopher takes the Hollywood people to a pizzeria and brusquely orders “coconut slice”. The others quickly copy him. (Coke and a slice). Funny. Nobody orders the drink first.

The QM allowed Charles to use her country house for his affair with CowMilla.

And Diana was not sane

Diana was sane. But she was used by the royal machine. After she had her children, she was shunned.

@@scottmcintosh2511 Diana was sane. The hateful old queen mother was an evil old harridan.

She wasn’t pretty.

@@mjef3695 I agree with you. And I'm not trying to be mean about it. I have just always found it so strange that she was called a beauty. Honestly, I found her to be quite homely (not her fault). But then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

She was a beautiful young woman.

Lmao 😂

@@moragmochrie9316 No, she really wasn't.

​@@mediterraneanworld a friend of my mother worked in service and the woman of the house always checked for dust and would be critical of the smallest mistakes. She was extremely strict with my mother's friend, so I can well believe that story.

QM sounds cruel and entitled

Yes I believe that would be true

So what, even if true, it is their job and tbh that was the every day routine we had to go through in military too. Maybe a bit spoilt yourself...

@@mediterraneanworld I was Head Piss Sniffer at the Palace throughout most of the 20th Century. I was employed to hunt out rogue undies for the Royal Family. If the QM discovered the stained cloth before I did, she would piss on them again and slap them in my face. Then she would proceed downstairs, to check for specks of dust, whilst sporting a pair of white gloves. One of my colleagues commented at the time, that she was going to tell her close friend what had happened, one day in the future. Apparently they were all terrified of her.

You know, a lot of men get turned on by bossy ladies. Chacun à son goût. Both boys, Edward VIII and George VI married bossy ladies. The key is to look at those men's emotional environment as children.... and you'll understand if you look at these two men's parents. It's obvious. Just imagine if your Mum's as distant, haughty and unfeeling as Queen Mary, and your Daddy's only good at ordering people around, but quite unable to express warmth or love.... did you know King George V loved his wife, Queen Mary, but only ever told her that in his frequent letters to her, rather that directly saying? 😱

Witchy, I thought the same thing she was miserable and not much to look at if I may say, King on the other hand 😜

@@nancymanuel8536 Maybe you are lucky to be beautiful, and you may indeed say that you thought she was "not much to look at". But it's totally irrelevant. What a person looks like, ugly or beautiful, is not under their control, and a matter of taste anyway. Forget it. It was the ugliness in her heart that mattered, and that she COULD do something about.

I thought George V handsome too. I believe he loved actress Evelyn "Boo" Laye.

She was beautiful when she was young. The Royals love beautiful women!

I DON'T like wasting any food ,give it to the staff if they want it END OF.😥😥😥😥

The fat short serpent was a witch

You have to think how more was being learnt about food hygiene, display and storage conditions in post war Britain. You wouldn't safely consume food, even with today's preservatives, that had been sat open in a warm room, exposed to all sorts of bacteria for hours, then return it to cold storage.

@@brianwhittington5086 Post war Britain? I'm not sure you understood this. He abdicated in 1936. So the story about him is about 1935. Ten years BEFORE Post War Britain....tsk! tsk! 👉🇺🇲👈 But somewhat typical of 👉🇺🇲 people. Ps Don't preach woke please, we're 🇬🇧 cheesed off with it!

@steffanhoffmann8937 I know exactly what I'm talking about. Post war Britain, and the improvements in the NHS and understanding of food hygiene, storage and display regulations. And as to your assumption of being American, well I'm sure you're aware what it means when you Assume ? I'm 100% British, going back as far as records exist. So much so that I'm actually related to EBL, the subject of the video. I'll expect your apology for your own ignorance ASAP !

I could never take a liking to the QM, I DONT KNOW WHAT IT WAS BUT I JUST COULDNT,

Of course it was! These people did not gain wealth and power being nice to peasants.

@@misstuesday404 nor me. IMO she was a nasty woman. I read Lady Cs book about her. It confirmed my opinion of her.

@@ruthanneseven 😆

@@ruthanneseven - Civility doesn’t cost a penny.

If you were a King or Queen so would you

I gather she originally had her sights set on Edward Prince of Wales, but he wasn't interested, which added to her later resentment of Wallis Simpson

@mediterraneanworld 100 per cent. All the judgement. I wonder how many of them American. They are judging how things were 80 years ago, it was a different time, different values a different way of life. For the Americans are any of them responsible for segregation in schools up until tge 60s? Or the KKK. elizabeth was a different woman, and things changed and evolved over her reign. Charles is a humanitarian and very much a tree hugger, deeply committed to the environment. This would of not been something the Monarchy would of entertained 80 years ago. So many judgy people.

@@kayschwartz3150 Ironic, given how judgy the old dragon was.

@finosuilleabhain7781 but that was my very point. 80 years ago everything was so different. That is how she was raised. You can see the changes in attitude and approach from Elizabeth to Charles to William.

Exactly!!!

Great comment! 😊

Very wise perspective! 💖

My Grandfather was racist. Grew up that way. My mom and Dad adopted a black child, my brother, and when he came up to my grandpa and gestured to be picked up, my mom was really worried that my Grandpa would get angry. In reality, he picked up the toddler and bounced him in his lap. My Grandfather was born in 1914 and I never met him. But he was a real racist. It stemmed less from hate and more from culture. Back then people didn't associate with people of different social classes or races. He didn't know anything about them except what he was told. Which was mostly fear-mongering. Fear of the unknown and tales of how black people thieve and kill. That stuff. I'm sure many people were like my Grandfather. I also know many people were hateful too and caused a lot of hurt. Both ways. But especially in America, against anyone who wasn't British, French, or otherwise wealthy European. Thank you 👍 Sending love and good vibes

Well said, you are so right

@@kittye8340 💝🙏🏿

My mother-in-law was born to Scots parents, passed away 12 years ago at the age of 96, so she was close in age with that witch, but so very different. I adored her, she was more of a mother to me than my own mother.

Just had this chat with my 72 year old father the other day, I have to agree with him, it’s an insult to every older person who overcame their upbringing to give an excuse to the ones who did not. My dad may not be perfect, but he recognizes that a lot of the ideas he grew up with were cruel and terrible and that being a good person means continuing to learn as society changes. Sending you a salute for doing the hard work!

@@siriuslyconfused1 I agree with you. My paternal grandmother was the same. She grew up in a totally white community. She was 21 when she first saw a black person in the flesh. She didn't like what some others said about him, being racist when that word was not in use. She had a love for all decent people, regardless of their colour or nationality. I adored her. She was a loving grandmother and teacher.

racism was more common and taught back then even if ur family wasn’t raised with it many were my family is still racist to this day but QM even grewing up thru that time decide to educate herself on the world the least she did was acknowledge her mistakes and learn to change her mindset

@@sundance9153 nah its the mordern age if u cant read typos then have grammarly by ur side or sum but anywho using diana as an excuse to say she learnt nothing is pretty pathetic tbh even if she was kind to charles but yall do know that he is her grandson right? how could a grandmother not love her grandson? her views on marriage was different from others she saw it as something permanent for life

Picking bits of imaginary fluff off soldiers’ uniforms is used as an excuse to touch them. Why would they get in trouble?

The soldier was disciplined for not taking proper care of his uniform

My Dad was also in the Army & strangely enough he told me almost the exact same thing would happen whenever the QM would visit them or watch their parades & drill practise- she would look for thinks to complain about & basically make up a whole load of nasty lies & get soldiers in his regiment in serious trouble. She was a vile woman

My late partner also hated the late Queen and Princess Margaret for getting members of the armed forces into trouble by finding imperfections in their turn out while doing "inspections". I don't think it was limited to the QM.

My sister in law worked in Marks and Spencer in the Oxford street she loved when the Queen mother visited as she was in the ,manager's book of people she had demanded to be sacked.so the manager used to offer to give the morning off to those on the list. This was just in case she noticed that she had demanded they be sacked .the poor manager was afraid to tell her that in 1972 this was not on. A vile woman.

@sherrillsturm. Just for balance : Philip had nothing to give up when he married Young Elizabeth. There was no kingdom and no throne to inherit. Greece had become a republic. Philip was the son of an exiled King but had never lived with him or known the royal life. Before his marriage he only had his pay as an officer in the Royal Navy. He lodged here with his English uncle, Lord Louis Mountbatten - the man who ( carefully )engineered his first introduction to Elizabeth who was 13 at the time.

@@belindamay8063 he continued in the navy until Elizabeth became Queen, not when he married her. They married in 1947 (?), and she became Queen in '52, so had a few more years career.

Philip had a hell of a job in getting her out of Buckingham Palace allegedly. She didn't want to let go of her influence over the Queen. Luckily he won!

An adorable lady.

Not really.

I disliked Q Mother through and through. Why? Because I could see her coldness through her fake smile or the media propaganda.

That's why they gave her the name Queen Mother, so she wouldn't complain about being side lined. No wonder the Queen adored he father, it's obvious that she inherited her beautiful persona from him!.

@@savinaking8637 ... Her Majesty to her Father and to God ... . I count this, the Glory of my Crown, that I Reigned with your Love. And Her Majesty referred to Balmoral, as her Father also loved Balmoral as her dear Paradise in the Highlands.

One of the documentaries about the Elizabeth 11 said, she had said that her mother was going to be a problem as she became Queen. She had to be given a title that would be acceptable

@@robertpodbery242 Elizabeth II, not the eleventh. And it's Charles III not Charles the one hundred and eleventh.

Well put

My mother said she didn't feed or treat her servants very well. When Bowes Lyons visited Shugborough Hall, where my mother was in service in the 1930's, the entourage of servants told of very cold conditions and lack of food.

@@carolinecollett4349 Tallies with what I have heard too. Her face never looked 'warm' even when smiling; it always looked forced to me.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

@@gazgandalf4854 I'm so glad I'm not alone. I always thought she was acting. Her smile didn't seem reach her eyes. I don't see the Queen like her mother, but I definitely saw Margaret like her. Indeed the Queen self effacing like her father.

They would have been right at home.

The press at the time of the war made a big deal about how eastenders loved the QM.because she also suffered from tblitz .A bomb done a little damage to the the gardens of Buckingham Palace where she didn't even live even if the Palace was destroyed she had many other homes Windsor, Sandringham, Balmoral, Kensington Palace, Clarence hose to name a few she carried on living in luxury while the lower classes could barely eat

@@michaelharrison3602 and apparently they had plans arranged for them to move to Canada should the Germans invade.

@@michaelharrison3602 While I do not argue with your opinion, I do take exception to taking liberties with the facts. Both Queen Elizabeth (Bowes-Lyon) and King George were in residence when the two bombs fell in the yard just outside the kitchens of the palace. They both heard the bombs before they landed and the Queen mum described the explosions in detail in a letter to her mother in law. The palace was bombed seven times during the war with varying effect. They maintained residence in the palace for the duration of the war because the King thought it his duty. While they did fare better than most of the citizenry, they were also rationed, their expenses had to be approved by the cabinet. You need to study history a little more.

The King and Queen were in a Palace room during the attack! Windows were blown in with shards of glass. The K and Q had to dive behind furniture to avoid being cut! Hardly the little bit garden damage described earlier. Online photos show the corner of the building and not the garden suffered in this attack!

@'2charliep she never tried to equate the damage in Buckingham Palace with the east end and how would your friend know of a demand for clothing coupons when their wasn't those at the palace followed the rationing

and she gave QE2 a hard time. until Philip said to give her her own place to live. she hated not being Queen anymore!

Inbreeding

She was a home wrecker, facilitating the abdication of Edward and banishing he and wallis from the UK! Mean nasty malignant covert narcissist, hoping karma gets her in the afterlife 😡

Now THAT - hits the nail squarely on the head. Public image as opposed to reality - same with Diana, same with Andrew until that debacle of an interview starkly exposed him to everybody. Take a look at the current generation - there is ONE person, who fortunately happens to be our next monarch, that fits the bill. William really does seem to be the real thing. Sad about his failure of a brother.

Gin and tonic had its downside. Yet there was an air of magnificence about her.

@@davidnewton2633 There was, but it was based on snobbery only. Respect should be earned by worthy behaviour, attitude and actions. Anyway - what's wrong with G&T? Nice in hot weather until you fall over from a few too many. I've noticed a distinct localised increase in gravity on such occasions.

What do you expect from a reptile?

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They are paid

Money all ways talks

my grandma was the same age as elizabeth, and what she called her is not fit for print!

Based upon my experience, I agree with your great grandmother 100%. "Horrible and Nasty" are the two adjectives I use when describing my dealings with her, as well.

Nice story bro.

Spot on!!!

how old was your great grandmother if she was working in early 1900's ? didn't the QM pass away in 2002 ?

I believe Margaret was a bit of a madam too.

EVIL, EVIL, EVIL

And which Royal Yacht would that have been if Elizabeth and Margaret were children.

Not HMY Britannia which was built by John Brown and Co Ltd on Clydebank, and launched by HM The Queen on 16 April 1953. I think Peter Woods should check with the man he knew and get his facts right..

@@johnlawes5794 The Royals have always had access to a ‘charted private use’ of a navy vessel, forever!

Yes I think the same...

Oh did you know her then ?

Yes

forgiving who?david?

Maybe Because forgiveness kills in her position?

But daughter, the late Elizabeth II, was the polar opposite--kind, considerate, and well respected and loved by staff and family.

@@inamoore4536 Elizabeth (daughter) was completely cold. No emotion. Hardly surprising with a mother like EBL.

@sitithesecond I knew the late queen had a reserve, stoic demeanor, but I read and heard too many reports that Elizabeth II was nothing like her mom. I never heard anything about her being rude to her staff, and she well respected by her immediate family and friends. Maybe you know something I don't know.

It’s wonderful how life works. Some people try so hard to somewhat successful in life and all they get out of life is craps. Then some people don’t do anything in life and things just keep coming to them. It just makes you sick to get up every day.

Such is the will of God?

@@clarivsmedia8697 there are no gods, grow up.

@@therearenogods3716 time will reveal your mistake. Look into it while you can.

@@gillianwardle8813 free yourself of the cancer of religion!

Edward was friends with Hitler and passed on state secrets. There's a lot of evidence including photos and documentation. So we had a lucky escape when he abdicated.

So was her drunk daughter and nasty Great Grandson all passed down through their genes

@@christineduffy3113 Such behavior is not genetic. They were _raised_ into this behavior.

@@srccde Oh not true genetics play a big part in a person's DNA marrying cousins as was rife in Queen Victoria's day played a big part in funnily enough in this day and age cousins are not encouraged to marry but hey you obviously know best

@@christineduffy3113 "Genetics play a big role in a person's DNA". I'm not sure _why_ but judging from that sentence, you really don't have any idea what you're talking about. I assume that's genetic, too ;)

Yes, but I think her view was because of the stresses he smoked more after he became king.

@@brontewcat what was princess Margaret’s excuse? Common denominator is this one.

@@lizziebkennedy7505 I am sorry - that is irrelevant. The reason why George VI smoked has nothing to do with why his daughter smoked

@@brontewcat You’re not sorry. And your claim is absurd!

@@brontewcat k

It was Queen Mary that used to get given things that she stated she liked. She was married to King George V.

@@No1grandma74 Thank you for correcting that error. I knew it was Queen Mary.

The person who was well known for taking a liking to her hosts possessions, pictures, furniture, objets d’ art, was in fact, Queen Mary , not the Queen Queen Mother.

So she stopped for a bread she liked... horror... :D

That was Queen Mary, not Queen Elizabeth.

Shes a "Bowes-Lynn" this name is also in Meghan Markle family line... the Bowes and Lynn joied together because of castles, land and money, lots of it. If you check it out you'd be surprised at what you find! Have fun.

@@JessieB_ She was Bowes Lyon. Her family were not royal but they were landed gentry, or one might say Aristocrats. But she was not of Royal blood and therefore became Queen Consort as opposed to Queen Regent. Just as Queen Camilla is and The Princess of Wales will be in years to come. Xx

@@christahopkinson9721 Queen Regent is a title bestowed upon a woman who inherits the British crown by right of birth. Anyone who marries a King is a Queen Consort.

I'm shocked right now 😂😂😅 I really thought she was an angel 😂

@@morganwilson8717 Didn't you hear the poem story? She was there for the UK when the palace got bombed I won't take that away from here. But the poem story is shocking.

She had a reputation when visiting country estates in Yorkshire of 'entertaining' the young stable lads.

@@shirleyminassian1547 Her daughters, Margaret was pretty and very free with her body…

@@andyrjs What do you mean? Queen mother had relations with those lads??😉😉😜😜

Sounds like a certain American actress

@anon Dont start that. This is about the queen mother.

a lot of monsters can be so charming. i’ve been fooled a couple times. now, when someone seems too charming it’s a red flag for me

To good to be true comes to mind.

What did she do bad behind closed doors? Most people have good and bad sides. Can’t we just focus on the good sides of people?

@@KingJackson11355we all have sides. But we should be predominantly the same with all people in front and behind doors! It seem the lower classes were treat very differently and that is the consensus of thousands of people who were associated with her. You reap what reputation you sow and that is just a fact. If my daughters were to treat people different because of cultural differences I would have been devastated. Thankfully they are as good as their portrayal with all walks of life. It’s naive to to except someone from bad traits just because they have a title!

Yeah. Heresay. and what do those that know you say about you? Heresay.

You should write a book about that

no princess margaret?

So nurse what did these children have that deserved being shut away could their parents not afford nannies?

Just interested in knowing after watching the incredible film the greatest show …..or was it all just show for some folk .

@@susanhopins4184 my late elderly neighbour (who was ages with Queen Mum).. was born and grew up alongside Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (Queen Mum), on Glamis Estate. She did not like the Queen Mum, although the description she gave of Queen Mum, could have been of herself. 😂 Even whilst playing with the children of the Estate, Elizabeth expected total deference. My neighbour told me of the local knowledge of mental disabity running through the Bowes-Lyon lineage. Queen Mum had publically said it didn't come from "my side", but it did. Back in History, the Bowes-Lyons had an Heir who was mentally disabled and kept locked in, and looked after in a turret of Glamis Castle, hidden away. (There are more windows from outside than can be accounted for inside). So.. the Bowes-Lyon were always defensive on the topic of mental disability. And, of course, it is only in fairly recent decades that we expect those with disabilities to live in the Community, not Institutions. (I have a disabled adult child, whom we've always Cared for), as did my husbands Aunt with his cousin. But, that was unusual for a woman of her generation (born 1920s.and with a child born in 1950s), never mind before that time. It was expected that if you had a disabled child they were "put away" in an Institution. Indeed, that was still happening with some children born at same time as our child in 1970s (and later). Queen Mum was always aware of the issues of Mental Disability in her family, but....how could the mother of the Monarch make that public? In recent decades Countess of Strathmore was a tireless worker, (even into great age), locally for Charities for people with Learning Disabilities. And a very NICE lady. She, was keen to be seen to raise the profile of Mental Disability, not ignore it, or deny it.

Aunt

@@glynjones9988 Still a royal.

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@@glynjones9988 sister-in-law

Yes, she lived in a cottage v near Kensington Palace.

Probably,her darling Charles could do no wrong .

If she did, it was with good reason.

Her hypocrisy over Mrs Wallace and Camilla is typical of Royal inbreeding, Diana provided the Hier, it's not proven it was by AI. An out and out racist just like the rest of the lizard tribe. No loss to society.

@@normasouthwood3182 There could be no good reason for that. It was cruelty and jealousy.

She let Charles use her country house to have the affair with CowMilla while he was still married to Diana.

Get a job boy man

I believe you

I am not surprised!!!

Rumours ??? I don’ t believe any of this!

@@wardenblack9734 Lord Eden would not say those things for nothing!!!

Bowes-Lyon not Bose-Lyons and they were probably not much different to many other aristocratic owners of coal mines at the time

I'm sure they also did human sacrifices, too. These won't stop at nothing.

Was that the original name instead of Bowes?

@@ottonieoswald9184 no

No wonder for no reason, I never liked the QM and to think that she despised the ( L) Prince Phillip who had blue vein like her Royal husband but unlike her. I am not from England either but since the time I first watched her videos , I never like that QM , there was something about her which simply could not like her.

@@edy1361 and you are?

Why is that?

@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim lol

Wow...and I suppose he was perfect. LOL

@@johndean3930 right. because you MUST be perfectly perfect in order to suss out cruelty in someone else 🙄 i can’t call Putin out for war crimes just because i’m imperfect…. is that what you’re saying?

I saw the parallels with Wallis right away too. They hated each other because deep down they were the same. And yes, I definitely got a mummy-didn't-love-me vibe from the boys. I had a very cold and mean mother too, and I use to be the same with my "love interests". Being French, I was never a fan of the royals, but my goodness, do I feel sorry for those kids.

@celissewillis9399 I was with you until you mentioned William and Catherine. I'm sorry but I don't see it for those two. Quite a few journalists have come out and said, fo rthe longest time William's shenanigans have been concealed in order to protect the crown. Norman Baker even admitted, when he was a guest editor for one of the papers, the editor told him, he could write anything on Harry and Meghan but not William and Kate. Fact is, Kate was not William's first choice, he was very keen on Isabella (Cressida's sister), but she turned him down for Sam Branson (Richard Branson's son), and she wasn't the only one to turn him down. William is a Windsor in temperament, he is just as shy, arkward and as temperamental as his father, great grandfather (George VI) and his great grandfather George V. Edward VII also had a filthy temper. I'm beginning to have doubt about Katherine's upbringng more so in light of the recent bankruptcy revelations, her uncle's shenanigans (selling drugs, supplying calling girls and physically attacking his wife), and her brother's depression, Catherine herself seems as if she is in the throes of an eating disorder or image issues. And then there's the fact that shortly after they got married, Prince William dipped into his inheritance from Diana and gave the Middletons £2 MILLION to put towards their new property...why would he do that if they were bona fide millionaires? The recent body languate between William and Kate doesn't augur well for the couple, something changed round about the time Louis was conceived. They now live at different addresses; William is at Kensington Palace,whilst Kate is at Adelaide Cottage in Windsor. Something is not quite right.

Kate seems less of an adult than she once was. her middle school „shivering“ when Meghan is mentioned has 8th grade mean girl vibes. the entire family with the possible exception of Harry, is small minded, several have serious OCD. William believes Harry was brainwashed by therapy even as he is a jerk on a routine basis. the Queen would not allow the young Princes to attend grief therapy. I mean, who does that. Watching the royal family has increasingly been turned into watching Monty Python because there is such an air of the vaguely ridiculous. Kate is no longer the intelligent, beautiful woman William married. she is very thin, anxious and almost sad. Harry and Meghan seem the only smart or vaguely healthy people in this nutty bunch. It seems Harry and Meghan are designated scapegoats in the family and so..they left.

@@lekis5975 That something would be you sunshine. Spread your nasty lies somewhere else.

Which daughters aren't nervous about upsetting their mother (if they're still alive).

Evidence for that is week whilst that to contrary at least a month. She clearly detested the POW.

That is total rubbish

I too have read several sources that say the same thing: QM wanted the Prince of Wales who was rather handsome and dashing. He supposedly wasn't interested in her as a) he didn't like her and b) preferred thin, elegant woman such as Wallace. He also knew intuitively that she was mean and sneaky.

That was a manufactured story. It's completely untrue.

Drivel, she was the Royal Visitor to my school and she was always charming to everyone she met, from Lord Lieutenant of the County to youngest schoolboy. Later I served in the Royal Navy Queen Elizabeth visited many of HM Ships and Establishments, she was always kind and often used to stop when Inspecting a Guard of Honour to speak to an individual. On one occasion when she was visiting HMS Ark Royal - a ship that she had launched and felt was her 'pet' ship she stopped to speak to the oldest serving AB on the ship, he was nervous and when he tried to reply he could not speak, HM immediately reached into her handbag and brought out a tin of Cough Sweets saying ''You poor man, when I get like that I suck one of these - here have a Zube''. At the Castle of Mey, her country seat in Caithness, she owned a very successful breeding herd of cattle, she always attended the local cattle fairs and was known as a good cattle breeder and a friend of the farming community

He lied to you.

@@scottmcintosh2511 My parents would agree with you they thought King George & Queen Elizabeth were true & honourable to there people both admired greatly in our district in the North East of Scotland. My Father was in the 1st Battalion of the Gordon Highlanders served in the front line in WW1 at the Battle of the Soam & also Ypres both extremely fierce battles he got gassed & shelled crashed a motor bike, broke his nose but he survived. After the war he took up farming started as a crofter had many children. He disliked king Edward marked him down as a waster and was so grateful he Abidacated HRH Queen Eluzabeth ( the Queen Mother) was a wonderful support to her husband and was well thought of.

A trait she passed on to her promiscuous daughter Margaret

serves them right for being sycophants.

It was only one year to move her on. The Duke of Edinburgh didn't want to move into Buckinham Palace either. Churchill demanded it, but it was 12 months, not 3 years. Cheers.

In a book I read recently, it said that she initially refused to leave the palace. QEII then offered her Clarence House, but it was too small for her. She wanted Marlborough House, which was Queen Mary's London home. It was nearly 3 times bigger than Clarence House and sat on several acres of land. She actually wanted Queen Mary thrown into the streets so she could have it. When the QEII refused, she finally agreed to take Clarence House but only after millions were spent to refurbish it.

Yes, when the king died and Her daughter became Queen she wanted to stay and still hold power over Queen Elizabeth. Micromanage the Monarch.

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Yeah. I think they finally turned off the heat.

But Charles is not thick

@@Taylor23890but he is known for being a bit loony

@@trishr2081 but not thick . Harry takes after Diana in the academic area

Nevertheless it is Spot On, the proof is in the Silly Little Prince who takes after her, and his Mongrel Wife.

@@bendewet1057 You aren't worth shining Harry and Meghan's shoes. And what great family do you belong to? Dracula?

I never heard that but it's quite amusing, if true.....

😂

I agree with your grandmother. Not only did they have multiple dwellings to run to, they had an escape route planned to take all the royals to Canada if Hitler invaded.

Prokkle. Obviously the Royals had lots of places they could go to during the war. Including abroad to Canada for instance. But they decided to stay even after the Palace was hit. I’m no royalist, they don’t interest me, but give them their due. They stuck it out. And saying that being bombed themselves made it easier for them when facing ordinary people who had been bombed is reasonable.

My mother and older sister lived in London throughout the war whilst my Father was serving. My Mother's experience differs considerably from your grandmother's. The "London Poor", of which my Mother was one, were rehoused as quickly as possible in my Mother's personal experience. Do not forget that Peter Mandelson's grandfather, Herbert Morrison, was supposed to be in charge of the programme.(Morrison avoided callup in WW1 and got himself a safe job during WW2).

@@oldman1734 I have to agree with you, if the king and Queen had run off to Canada, how could they ever face their people again, by saying that being bombed they could experience what the ordinary people are going through, I admired them greatly, and the then Princess Elizabeth even joined the ambulance service and did her bit for the war office

Stop it. You know what she meant. If it hadn't happened she would never have been given the chance to o meet those people

That was her job.

@@rubynelson1164 Indeed, the "monarchy" is all an act and an increasing number of citizens are seeing through it.

@@rubynelson1164 I agree with your comments 🥳🥳

This women has been laid to rest for years but yet U are still getting pleasure from raking up the past it's no wonder Horrid Harry is doing the same using his dead Mother to keep him on the front page But if this is what makes your world go round just think after your gone what others are going to rake up about you.

@@jessiemacgregor1357 Can't say I'm bothered about peoples' opinion of me after I'm gone. In contrast, the royalty are all about creating impressions to ensure its continuation..... and that of the "establishment". They have plenty of sycophants to help out. Royalty should have been disbanded in the early 1800s, it became meaningless after that time.

And the father was the Hunchback of Notre Dame. Got it.

@@republica13 - Not the original hunchback from Paris but another one from York.

The cook, hence the nickname Cookie. There is no way her 'mother' had her at the age of 43.

@@terrya8989 Some women do have children at the age of 43. That cookie story was fabricated by Wallis Simpson, who was a horrible person.

My mom had me when she was 43 years old.

My great grandmother/ great great grandfather worked for the royals and got pregnant by one of them... But my grandmother was not sure if she was the royal product, or of it was her mother ... She eavesdropped on a conversation so couldn't quite remember if it pertained to her mother, or her grandmother. It's rather awful to know that I apparently have "royal" genes.

@@LumiSisuSusi Plenty of people have royal blood who were born on the wrong side of the blanket. As Mel Brooks said as Louis XVI in "History of the World Part I", "It's good to be the King!"

@@LumiSisuSusi Being Royal, Even if a Bit, is Nothing to be Proud Of. England's Royals are Inbreds Going Back Hundreds of Years. They are a Corrupt Bunch and Into "Santanic Rituals". Do The Research and Prepare to be Shocked!! Everything That Glitters in Not Gold!!

Good riddance to the racist old bag.

YES AS I SAID EARLIER AN EVIL WOMAN, HOPE SHE IS SUFFERING IN THE AFTERLIFE

@Helena McGinty. It's funny, isn't it, that the Middle Class is mocked for prissy values, but the moment anyone untitled behaves the way the aristocracy does (gambling, affairs, financial irresponsibility), it's touted as a moral failing by the aristocracy.

i'm irish not british but the royals can't be that bad can they ? most britons seem happy to keep on voting in pompous snobs to govern them time and time again

Helena McGinty: I’ve never enough time with rabbits to inquire about their morals. They do appear to have an easier time at procreation than the QM but I don’t know on what else she is judging them on.

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I knew people from there who were also vile racists. not at all sahing your people were.. but... doesn;t make them right about things does it? I am also aware many Eastenders were no such thing. A friends Mother who lived across the river in Bermondsey, so not the East End, told me many stories of her era when foreigners were dealt with quite badly and she had no love for the Royal Family. My mothers family, coal miners from the South Wales coal fields and her parents wer ethe same age as the queen Mother, more or less. Grannie the same age, grandfather older, they had a lot of time for the good the Royal family did.. namely the later rather disgraced King who abdicated.. so its horses for courses. many different view points.

@@mediterraneanworld QM probably did not like that Phillip had equal say in how the children were raised. He came first with his wife and the mom had to take second place.

Philip's mother was a Romanoff. That's pretty high in stature for royals.

She was wonderful!

She was a alcoholic like her daughter princess Margaret

Why did she say that?

@@KingJackson11355 no I did

But remember, girls were taught to say no the first couple times in those days. No one dated back then. There wasn't sex before marriage. So many times a young boy would propose if he was feeling .... Overwhelmed by passion😉..... So the girls were taught to say no a couple times first bc you wanted to make sure he really wanted you.

@@lizamartin4705 There definitely was sex before marriage in those days. You just didn’t talk about it.

@@tiahnarodriguez3809 yes but not like today. I meant it wasn't the norm for teenage girls. And it wasn't socially acceptable.

There was plenty of dating back then, just not always among royalty, the aristocracy and the very wealthy. Their marriages were often arranged.

@@gaiaiulia not like today. How old are you? I get so concerned for this generation who really doesn't understand the past, how and why things changed so drastically since the world wars but especially after the 60's and birth control. It's only been the very recent past that families were torn apart and people being together outside of marriage or having babies unwed was normal. Yes it happened but very hardly ever. It would completely shame the family. Even today in parts of the world they will kill their daughters for it!! There were bad things about it for women yes, but we the out all the good with the bad. Young girls are not able to pick a good mate alone. Families used to be involved. Boys would have to ask to date a daughter. They were more protected. Look at the amount of rape and broken families, a whole generation that doesn't know what it's like to have as mom and a dad. We used to be able to live comfortably on one income. Things that were good from the dawn of time are now destroyed.

Are you implying you were her equal?

It must have been in the few hours before she would drink a few more bottles or two of gin!

She certainly wasn't like that when I met her! She was rancid! She must've had a cheeky few before meeting you.

Now I know where Andrew got his lack of manners & lofty attitude from!!

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😂😂😂😂

@@jeanmyers1787 so when did you meet Andrew?

Boy oh boy , do you all still think Harry and Meghan are making it all up

Perhaps she was pissed 😂

Yet she never thought to amend it, entitled unto death should be their motto.

Yes, you are so right in your assumptions, it certainly seems to be that way,

It's a pity that the Royals are not the people that I thought they were, however, I enjoyed serving the Queen in the Australian Army, & I still have respect for her, & I considered her my monarch, BUT Charles on the other hand, isn't, & NEVER will be my King, & Camilla, NEVER my Queen 👸 EVER.

Well, I didn't know that she was such a nasty person, I always thought that she was alright, but it just goes to show how well her P. R. was for her!

Sounds like an upper class version. Of Catherine Tate's nan

odd then she left an estate worth millions.

@@rossmansell5877 Well, if you count millions in debts as an estate I suppose you're right.

Renee Bloggs. We’re you staff,or a member of Backstairs Billy clique?

One serious breach from the Queen Mother, was getting her snout in politics. Royalty was not permitted to show any favoritism for any candidate. And then she was shown waving at a crowd with Neville Chamberlain just before the UK elections.

@@lenwilkinson672 Neither, have just formed my opinions from reading many books by well regarded authors and historians.

YYYaaa. Markle would not enter the castle if QM was alive.hehe

She wanted David before he took up with Wallis, that is why she hated Wallis!

There is no way stress didn’t contribute to the king’s death.

Did she? Wow, you must have been very close to her. Amazing !

Yes I remember thinking that it was probably the smoking that got to him

@@Steampunksaly you should try reading once on a while.

I never liked her. She was a snob.

the QM was a Lady of the Scottish Aristocracy ,unlike you and me, mere Commoners...Diana was also a Commoner ,but of the English Aristocracy ,Hence her name Lady Diana Spencer,until she married The Prince of Wales and became Princess Diana through Marriage to HRH the Prince of Wales.

@Lyn Bee Yes, in fact both the Queen Mother and Lady Diana Spencer’s fathers held exactly the same rank in the nobility, of Earl.

I believe the same thing. I think once she married George VI she became ambitious to be queen. She played the long game. She found out what palace politics were all about and got greatly involved. She was instrumental in bringing Edward down even though it didn’t appear that way on the surface. Once George became king, she ruled thru him. Then she tried to rule thru Elizabeth II but that didn’t work bc of Philip.

@Linni loov In the eyes of royalty, all the subjects in one’s kingdom are commoners regardless if they’re titled. That’s why until her, foreign princesses were all that was acceptable for an HRH to wed. The children of a monarch had always been used to shore up alliances thru marriages to foreign royals. WWI changed that.

Maybe you would be kind and share with us 😃

For Sure! God doesn't want them! Not that they would end up in Heaven anyway!

@@wildblueyonder7323 Read Lady Colin Campbell's book on the Queen Mother.

@@wildblueyonder7323 Well to use the vernacular 1. Trollope 2. Troublemaker 3. Any female who went to work there, would be sacked post haste if she was even remotely attractive (didn’t like competition) 5,

Glamis is haunted. Many will attest to that.

Media makes saints and myths of people. Like Mother Teresa, the Queen mum was one of those persons, way far from the true reality. Unfortunately, it's what the media serves the naive people who deslretly want to believe in someone....

Her low view of African management seems to be correct. African governments have certainly proved her to be spot on. Especially the buffoons in South Africa.

LOL

😆🤣👍 excellent remark,very apt

@@saoirsehaslonglegs2313 - 🙂

Every year, she overspent and ER II quietly paid her debts. She died a couple million in the red and ER II paid.

Yeah

@@onemercilessming1342 yup

@@tiffprendergast Read King of Fools. It's a biography about Edward VIII, the abdication, and the rabid hatred the Queen Mother had for anyone whom she perceived as a threat to her over-weening ambition.

I agree. She always looked down her nose at Wallis Simpson and blamed her for her husband becoming King. As if such a position was so oppressive and as you stated "enjoyed all trappings of wealth". If she and her husband didn't want the job, he could have abdicated like his brother and let the job fall to someone else. But of course they were not going to let that gravy train pass.

and much better hats ! courtesy of angela kelly, whom the queen promoted from dresser to designer/costume manager/personal assistant/trusted companion.

For sure. Her mother was on the phone to her EVERY day telling her what to do.

Absolutely, even her clothing choices changed quite dramatically - for the better. Elizabeth at least once said "we mustn't ever do anything to upset Mummy".

Yes she was also the driving force behind the Charles snd Diana Union. My mum said she was an old bag and the Queen was under her thumb for years.

Gone a bit stiff again now though.

That definitely happened

Did she say that she hated Froggies?

@@Longtack55 lol

Wow what year was that in?

@@Longtack55 Or ask if the Frog wore a beret and carry a string of garlic? Ha ha!

Did you know her that well?

Exactly, I read somewhere that she lived well beyond her means and left large debts for her family ie Queen Elizabeth, to pay.

​@@reggiesmith3866Whilst that might be true, you read it income rag as pure speculation. Her financial affairs were never made public. Ergo any claim about debts is pure speculation.

Had Edward remained king, it's doubtful he would have opposed Hi--er, according to historians nowadays. As evidenced by his actions leading up to and throughout WWII. The RF kept this quiet, even when it made them look like jerks because no one knew why they were so chilly towards the Yorks. There are some interesting books and documentaries on this topic.

​@@VesnaVK Going by modern historical research, Edward and a disturbing number [tho definitely not a majority] of the Brit aristocracy in the 1930s were fans of Hitler & the Nazis, seeing them as representatives of the Old Order, strong and enduring. They would have been more than happy to see Hitler assume dominance in the UK and be themselves rewarded with lucrative leadership position in some Dept or industry or other. When it became clear what Nazi rule would actually mean, thankfully most of the aristos changed their tune, joined the Armed Forces and fought for King and Country. Edward and Wallis however seem to have remained rather ambivalent, but I don't know to what extent, as they were in exile in Barbados, Portugal and later lived in France. I recall reading that Edward had been promised he would return to the throne if he supported the Nazi invasion of England, after George VI would have been required to abdicate....I can't imagine that that information would have endeared him to his brother the King, nor to Elizabeth his sister in law!

I thought the queen mother hated Diana?

"She absolutely had a hand in Edwards abdication and making herself Queen." Good for her. Edward was vile, and a Nazi sympathizer.

@@richie9308 not at all, Diana was the niece of one of her lady-in-waiting and had actively sponsored her as the wife of Charles. She might have hated her after she rebelled to the RF

Princess Diana is still alive, the death was staged and the rf really wanted to murder her. they are nazis and pedos installed fakely after the war. All history books re-written to include those pigs.

Ev eryone seemed to love her while she was alive, she seemed to be a very gracious lady. And that is how I am going to remember her.

I agree with your point of view there. I never liked the queen's mother. (NO capitals here, is a personal choice, not bad grammar). In fact I don't like ANY of this wasteful, self-important brood of wasters. A couple of weeks ago Prince William stood on street corners selling Big Issue Magazines, with real homeless people. He just showed his smug, arrogant face for half hour, with his, "we understand your Situation" fackness, then tripped off back to his lavish mansion. They're all the same. Empty gestures, and corporate class all their own. The French had the right idea around 1789, quickly dispensing with their crass aristocrats. Wish we'd done the same!

@@stuartsharman3055 well said 👏

If course it should have never happened, politicking is what all wars are about, they all want to run the world, we can be self governing individuals given half the chance. The system was and is set up to keep us poor and these corporate figure heads rich.

They know NOTHING OF LIFE! But they preach at us ! Queen's speeches are utterly pointless, both in Parliament AND at CHRISTMAS !! Last years was the worst. When you are both in your ni series the inevitable will happen. We can shoot off to country estate to remember out loved ones!!! I loved PP, but watching him deteriorate was pitiful. He was released. Give thanks to God, and carry on. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@@stuartsharman3055 I agree with everything you’ve said. I was born and raised to be a “royalist” but now I just find the whole thing distasteful. They are a spoilt, entitled bunch entirely out of touch with reality and the day to day struggles the rest of us deal with. They are only in that position because the stole all their wealth and murdered anyone who got their way.

No one should have that much power. We should all be equal. I learned something new.

@@sandraray8523 She shouldn't have had that power but there is no such thing as equality in nature. How utterly naive to imagine that there is 🤔🤔

@@annamack5823 I will always fight for equal rights and I’m not naive. I’ve been outspoken and fighting for equal rights since I was 18. Yes, I’m well aware there are those who will always think they are better than others. Your patronizing attitude tells me a lot about you.

That's terrible nasty piece of work

@@sandraray8523 Your ridiculous tub-thumping sys a lot about you, too 😉

margaret was never better to be Queen than QE2!

@donnawood.....I think you mis-interpreted what was said.

I do believe her daughter Margaret was equally as rude and extremely full of herself.

Try not to be too hard on Princess Margaret. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was a b*tch, and a horrible example as a mother. ER II handled her because she, ER II, was Queen regnant. She gave in to her mother on family affairs, and even Phillip resented how extensive her influence was. ER II claimed to give Phillip sway as head of her family, but keep in mind that EB-L kept her power base around her after her husband, George VI, died. It was imperative that ER II marry and produce heirs. Margaret, not so much. Thwarted of a marriage to a man she loved because he was divorced (causing Wallis, Duchess of Windsor, to remark: "I wonder how she feels now that it's happened to her own daughter?") Absolutely no effort was put into finding a suitable husband for Margaret, hence her disastrous marriage to Snowden. Nor did EB-L think Phillip was suitable for Elizabeth. The Queen Mother hated Lord Louis Mountbatten and resented him, especially after he commented that the BRF was the house of Mountbatten, thanks to his pushing Phillip at then-Princess Elizabeth, aged 13. Hence the original hyphenated of the surname, not that the BRF actually has surnames. They take the names of their duchies and castles, subject to change.

@@onemercilessming1342 If she wasn't a bitch, what do you call someone that stubs her cigarette out on the palm of someone's hand?

You may recall the Channel 4 TV satire program of the 80's, 'Spitting Image', which used grotesque puppets to tear into those in public life, especially Politicians and the Royal Family, they portrayed her as a gin-soaked 'Beryl Reid' type. It was brilliant.

A person is best judged by how they treat their inferiors, not their equals.

I never liked her and she wanted her husband to be King so she forced Edward to Abdicate by pushing him to choose between Wallis (divorcee)and the Crown!! Yet she welcomed Camilla with open arms,sorry but that is very two faced to me.

she passed this attitude onto Princess Margaret

@@beecee2205 Apparently Margaret couldn't stand her mother, possibly why she took the path she did. A very unhappy woman!!